Models, what makes you look forward to a private? Members, Your experiences?

[Deleted member 57737]

hi,

The other day a model told me my requests for the private were too complicated. I needed 5 PMs to discuss them, took about 6 minutes. Other models before that didn't mind and said they had a lot of fun and would love to do it again. Well, not really a problem because she was honest and I rather have no private than a private with a model that has no fun. I request things like: Please no drooling, dildo and spanking, I just don't like it. Then I talk about some poses I really like, also about how "fast" she should act, meaning for example how long it should take her to get naked. But always I try to make it clear that I like unexpected things. Then I tell her why I want a private with her, obviously because she is awesome and how long I wish to be with her. Then I ask her if its possible that she doesn't look into the chat until I tip 50 tokens. I usually tip smaller amounts very minute or so in a private unless the price per minute is the maximum I can afford (90/min). And I ask her to turn down the music because I like having my own music playing but still want to hear the models voice for the moans. So muting the models room is not an option.

The last thing I request is that we could PM a bit after the private. Its like irl after sex. I just love to stay together and talk a bit. Well, sometimes I have to pee which is rather unromantic, but it would be much more unromantic if I wouldn't, haha.

Maybe my request not to look into the chat for some time is problematic, although I already had a thumps up in this forum after I mentioned that. But every model is different.

Maybe the perfect solution for the model would be to PM short just to find out if she is willing to do the things I like and can do without the things I don't like. Then take her private and discuss the other stuff while the timer is already running. But I would lie if I said I don't care how much time that would take. As a customer I obviously want my money to pay for the fun stuff. Still in a narrow fashion I could live with that.

soooo, I know nobody can give me an universally correct answer, but any insight would be great.

When does it get annoying, or too long discussing a private?
Is it better to just jump in without any requests?
Do too many requests turn you off because they could mean that the member doesn't trust you to do the right thing?

Is there anything that makes you look forward to a private?
Like a member that spent some time in your room tipping and chatting a bit before he requests a private. Does that make a difference?
Anything else that makes the model really positive and have fun?

Fun for the model means double the fun for me so this inquiry is not without egoism.

Members, any experiences in making the model like the private. I'm not looking for psycho tricks of course.

thanks

 

[LaceyRoyce]

Every model is different. But I can tell you:

When my room is busy, someone dming me with a long winded convo about what they want in pvt will definitely annoy me. I will most likely assume you're a time waster, so the best way to make me think otherwise is to send a tip to start off. That tells me you do intend to spend $$.

My suggestion would be to have a copy pasta ready to go. "Hey! I'd really like to take you private because *insert what you like about her* but I have a couple things I want to make sure of first and a couple of request. is it ok if I send it all at once for you to read?"

When she says yes send it all at once and do it like this. This way its easy to read and understand quickly.

1. No drooling, spanking or dildos
2. I like if you surprise me with other things!
3. I'd like it if you got naked within x time once the private starts
4. Please turn off your music before we start
5. Can we chat via pm for a little after the private


Also I'd suggest you clarify what kind of show you're looking for in that list. "stripping and cumming with your fingers" or something simple like that. We get all kinds of show requests.


I don't understand what you mean by "tip 50 tokens before she looks into chat" do you mean during the private or while you're dming her? If you're dming her while she's in public - yeah that's rude... to ask her to ignore her chat. Maybe you mean something else though?

Your last request about chatting via pm afterwards - in a busy room I'd say this is a no no unless you tip on top of it. Honestly, extra time/attention after/before a private requires tipping.

For me, dming this much during a show would be overwhelming. This might be too much to discuss via pm in my room and It'd be better to send a mail and sort it out before I'm online and in the middle of trying to juggle a room + figure out what you need from me. I'd probably set you up to have a scheduled private instead of in the middle of my show, and I'd take a small tip to pm afterwards while I was off cam/cleaning up.


To answer what makes me look forward to a private - for me personally with the way I take privates these days..

1. Someone I know already - repeat privates are lovely. I know what to expect and that feels safer.
2. Someone who tips to let me know they're serious before starting to discuss.
3. Someone who communicates clearly, quickly and without a lot of back and forth initially. I don't want to guess what you're looking for and I get a lot of different requests. "Dominate me Mistress!" isn't helpful. "I'm looking for a sensual domination show with lots of titty teasing, but never letting me see them. I'd like to be denied orgasm at the end. No humiliation please, just very controlling" = This is helpful.
4. Someone who is into sharing pleasure mutually. Exploring the things we both like rather than just seeing me as interactive porn.
5. Someone who books ahead, shows up on time and does what they say they were gonna do.

 

[Deleted member 57737]

Thanks a lot for the reply, this helps.

I don't understand what you mean by "tip 50 tokens before she looks into chat" do you mean during the private or while you're dming her? If you're dming her while she's in public - yeah that's rude... to ask her to ignore her chat. Maybe you mean something else though?

I mean while we are in private. I like it much more when the model isn't distracted by always looking into the chat during the private, so I ask her to only look into the chat when I tip 50 tokens.

the 6 minutes I talked about was including a lot of breaks in our conversation, because I exactly know that she has a lot of other things to do. What I listed as requests in my op takes nothing more than 2 minutes.

edit: And of course I tip for PMs, sometimes a lot

 

[yummybrownfox]

I do prefer to briefly discuss what the member is looking for in a private show, because I don't like to assume that a member wants this or that, and then start wasting time doing this or that...when he actually just wanted a foot fetish show. Lol. If it takes longer than a minute for us to discuss what's to happen in a private show, it's going to stress me out a little (and make me nervous about doing everything the way you want it) and probably think "Wow, he's really particular....."

Kind of the same thing when a member wants a custom video and has a pretty long description of what I need to do and say. Except with a custom video, if I forget to say or do something specific, at least I can go back and record it again (Even though that's annoying). With a private show, I have that one shot at getting everything right that you asked for while you're spending those 60 tokens/minute in the session.

If you plan to chitchat/flirt with the model for a bit via PM after the private show ends (and while she's back in the public chat), I think you should continue tipping her during this. It's one thing if you're PMing each other here and there to laugh about that weird dude in the chat who typed "Open bobs bb"...or if she wants to keep PMing you while she's working. I know a lot of members probably feel like Well I just spent X tokens on her in a private show, so I deserve to get some one-on-one attention from her afterwards, but just be mindful of the fact that lengthy PM conversations can take a model's attention away from the public chat. And she is still trying to earn money while she's live on cam.

I look forward to a private show when it's with a member who's cool and pleasant to talk to...not extremely picky or demanding, and not trying to get a quickie 2-minute show. I wish I'd get more foot fetish guys who want to SPEND.

 

[LaceyRoyce]

Thanks a lot for the reply, this helps.



I mean while we are in private. I like it much more when the model isn't distracted by always looking into the chat during the private, so I ask her to only look into the chat when I tip 50 tokens.

the 6 minutes I talked about was including a lot of breaks in our conversation, because I exactly know that she has a lot of other things to do. What I listed as requests in my op takes nothing more than 2 minutes.

edit: And of course I tip for PMs, sometimes a lot

It sounds like you're fine then. As long as its not a long winded back and forth that takes forever to get to the point, and that you're tipping for pms (i know you said "of course" but there are LOTS of people who don't). The not looking into chat make sense too.

Only other thing I can think of is that if models have limited english skills they may find reading requests harder and they just wanna do their thing. There's also plenty of models that have a policy/preference that in private they kinda do what they enjoy and they don't take requets much.

 

[Eden Elizabeth]

In my experience, a huge portion of guys that are super detailed while talking about what they want in private aren't actually planning on going private. They get off just by getting the model to talk about what he's into. That might be why some models shit down as soon as they get lengthy instructions. I definitely want to echo what other models have said so far especially in regards to tipping early on and keeping your requests concise and not too wordy. Also, the rate you paid for a private show is the rate the model has chosen to charge while in a private show. It does not include any special treatment or aftercare. If you want to talk more following a show, I'd recommend staying in the private show after you've finished just to chat or tipping her regular PM rates after the private show has ended.
As far as what I like in shows:
-Repeat clients are always great
-Clients that aren't super rushed (absolutely hate the ones that only have enough tokens for a minute and a half and expect me to make it work. I can't just shove a dildo in me without any sort of foreplay.)
-Clients that tip during the show (Makes me feel like they're genuinely enjoying it)
-Clients that give me something to work with (If I ask what you like and you say "whatever you like" you're getting a very generic show. I appreciate the creative freedom but I need to know where the starting line is at least.)
My absolute favorite shows to do though:
When a regular who usually just hangs out in the free chat and tips instead of getting shows decides to switch it up and go private. It's always an "OMG NO WAY!" moment. Plus the show feels super natural because we're already so used to talking to each other casually.

 

[Jay_Storm]

As a user, with a new model, I like to negotiate everything up front. But I frequent rooms that are slower or often empty so I assume the model has time to discuss. Going into a pvt blind is a recipe for disappointment. A five minute conversation does not seem ridiculous to me.

And I too like to chat after in pvt. But I also tip throughout the pvt and through the chat. I just hate to rush off if the model is cool. And I tip once we leave pvt and the Model Is Away sign is up. I usually get a nice PM in response.

With my regulars, everything is kind of known and we almost always chat after during pvt. Sometimes for longer than the sexual part. But once again, I keep tipping just out of appreciation.

 

[rockin_rod]

As a viewer, I've never initiated a private until I've been around the model long enough to feel comfortable with her and her boundaries, and I'm sure that can work the other way too to help the model.
For me, that establishes trust, which in turns creates a safe relaxed atmosphere in which to have fun, and sometimes experiment.
I've always enjoyed being 'unscripted' in private, and just enjoying where it goes, but I know that can be frustrating for some models. So I generally have a brief chat up front (once I'm in paid private) to talk about what would feel good today as a starting point, and that at least forms the basis of the show. Sometimes this is especially worthwhile, because if the model is not feeling 100%, or is tired, sore, etc then we can adjust accordingly.

 

[Deleted member 57737]

Thanks a lot for all the answers!!!

Didn't have the time to answer properly, will do that next days.

thanks again

 

[AudriTwo]

totally understand why the model said your requests were too complicated for her, because i felt the same reading them. i turn down shows with people who seem to be very particular in what they want/expect in a private. no offense, but no longer interested in trying to appease someone if im worried that i may unintentionally do stuff they don't enjoy. im charging high rates, and i really want to put on a quality show. i also risk getting a negative rating/comment if i don't perform to their liking. my site, those are very important when it comes to placement.

i would have said pass after you mentioned no drooling. i don't know what the fuck is wrong with me, but when i get horny, i drool all over myself.

i also refuse to turn off my music, because i prefer my music too. i have music playing to help drown out any unwanted outside noise. ex: neighbors or maintenance around me, husband playing video games, my dogs' ruckus. the only time i will turn it down is if im having a hard time hearing a member c2c.

i appreciate when members discuss their wants for privates in detail, but i HATE when member wastes my time reading all these requests, me agreeing, and they leave. i really do believe people get either get off while discussing what they want to do or they didn't bother checking my rates before. so i tend not to take these dudes with long requests in freechat seriously. if a member cant discuss their wants briefly and go more into detail if necessary in the paid time or maybe tip for the time i spend reading your messages then pass for me. i understand members may not want to pay to discuss these matters, but my time is valuable, and that's what you are paying for.

some members with long requests and details might tip me in freechat. those people i know are serious about doing a show. so i totally recommend tipping while discussing.

i personally dont mind chit-chat after privates, because its like pillow talk. i love it too. it's rare on camsites, but there are a handful of members that like to stick around and talk in public. i don't do any private messaging, but if a member wants personal one-on-one chit-chatting, keep that exclusive show going.

 

[Deleted member 57737]

Thanks again. sorry for long post:

I don't always find it easy to find the right tone when posting in this forum as a viewer. I could have been much more detailed in my OP to try to make it clear that, Yes I tip for PMs, in longer conversations I tip every 2-3 PM I get. I also often wait a bit with my replies to not stress the model. If I get a free PM from a model, I tip afterwards. Many models that know me like to PM me because they know that I tip for that and we might have a fun conversation. No matter if before, after or inside the private. But my OP was long enough and would have been much longer if I would have included all that and nobody would read that, especially because many models that post here often emphasize how busy they are, which I understand completely. Furthermore I'm not really interested in fishing for compliments and tell you how good a tipper I am (compared to some membrs I'm a small fish), unless my subconciousness somehow wants that, but that I can't control. I also understand the hostility and frustration towards members shining through in many models posts here. Considering how most members act, I'm surprised it isn't much more. Honestly I think its special that members are allowed here at all. I understand this forum is more than anything a save space for models, but I guess that's what the models only section is for. I'm just happy I don't know how you talk about members there.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that, just like models, members can be beginners too. They often find their way to chaturbate or LiveJasmin through dark places in the internet. Just like me when years ago I still was on the hunt for pirated software or movies and in all these portals dealing with illegal forms of data sharing you have your banners for CB and LJ. I don't know if that still is the case because I don't look for these things anymore. So if you look at these sites you ask yourself if you are still in that dark place. You might think it's all fake or much worse if it's some kind of slavery trafficing system exploiting girls. So I didn't touch it for years until a friend and colleague of mine told me about her modeling and invited me to her room. It was only then when I learned about all the intricacies of the model Job, which by the way has many similarities to my job. But this is not becoming clear to you from one day to the other, so you make mistakes while dealing with models. This forum helped me seeing those mistakes.

On topic:
I guess I'm not the right member then for models who are super busy all the time in their chat. However I know some who make a lot of money BECAUSE they take their time for members like me. Sometimes nothing happens in their chat for 5 minutes and then they act happy to be contacted and talked to. This is an athmosphere I really like. The one case I was talking about in the op where it didn't work made me think about mistakes I could have made, so I posted it here, because you don't exactly learn that in school. The answers I got at least told me that I don't do everything wrong. And I also got some good thoughts about that topic I didn't have before. Thanks for that.

Damn, way too long post.

 

[Makko]

I only visit 2 models, and usually I 'order' a private. For example the next week. I do very few of them; Maybe once every 2 months or so. But when I decide on one, I'm really looking forward to it.
Just before the private I give her a few things she can do. She can pick and choose or do them all if she wants. My favorite being a very long striptease. Don't care if it takes her 10 minutes to get naked. I love the slowness of it. Other things I like is oily and the hitachi. I always say keep it slow and this usually makes my privates a lot longer then expected even to a point telling me she will skip a few things from the list. lol

 

[Dannyhomebody]

hi,

The other day a model told me my requests for the private were too complicated. I needed 5 PMs to discuss them, took about 6 minutes. Other models before that didn't mind and said they had a lot of fun and would love to do it again. Well, not really a problem because she was honest and I rather have no private than a private with a model that has no fun. I request things like: Please no drooling, dildo and spanking, I just don't like it. Then I talk about some poses I really like, also about how "fast" she should act, meaning for example how long it should take her to get naked. But always I try to make it clear that I like unexpected things. Then I tell her why I want a private with her, obviously because she is awesome and how long I wish to be with her. Then I ask her if its possible that she doesn't look into the chat until I tip 50 tokens. I usually tip smaller amounts very minute or so in a private unless the price per minute is the maximum I can afford (90/min). And I ask her to turn down the music because I like having my own music playing but still want to hear the models voice for the moans. So muting the models room is not an option.

The last thing I request is that we could PM a bit after the private. Its like irl after sex. I just love to stay together and talk a bit. Well, sometimes I have to pee which is rather unromantic, but it would be much more unromantic if I wouldn't, haha.

Maybe my request not to look into the chat for some time is problematic, although I already had a thumps up in this forum after I mentioned that. But every model is different.

Maybe the perfect solution for the model would be to PM short just to find out if she is willing to do the things I like and can do without the things I don't like. Then take her private and discuss the other stuff while the timer is already running. But I would lie if I said I don't care how much time that would take. As a customer I obviously want my money to pay for the fun stuff. Still in a narrow fashion I could live with that.

soooo, I know nobody can give me an universally correct answer, but any insight would be great.

When does it get annoying, or too long discussing a private?
Is it better to just jump in without any requests?
Do too many requests turn you off because they could mean that the member doesn't trust you to do the right thing?

Is there anything that makes you look forward to a private?
Like a member that spent some time in your room tipping and chatting a bit before he requests a private. Does that make a difference?
Anything else that makes the model really positive and have fun?

Fun for the model means double the fun for me so this inquiry is not without egoism.

Members, any experiences in making the model like the private. I'm not looking for psycho tricks of course.

thanks

Just be yourself. Be respectful. If the model agrees to and with what happens in the private show, great. If not, and the model says no I won't do this/that, respect the model and focus instead on what works for both you and the model. As the saying goes teamwork=dreamwork, right? Taking female, male, and transgender models private myself when I'm not on my webcam working, I will say this: Don't be fake. Remember, the model is not paid to just chat with you. No long-winded convos. For example, whenever I want to do a private show, I tell the model, very quickly, I'm looking to take somebody private, how are you, and I'm reading your bio/profile. Remember it's all about the connection, baby. If there's no connection, you just politely move on, so you can get a private show with a model you do connect with, and so the model has a chance to get a private show with somebody else. Hope this is helpful and not too long of a response.