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So...that happened. And she's still online.
Edit: Funny. I just asked her if she knew she wasn't supposed to do that on MFC, and she said "Yes, Dude. I do know that." Alrighty then.
Where can I find this rule? I've done this maybe all of 3 times in my nearly 2 years of being on MFC, but I never read anywhere that it's against the rules. Help me find it?nzhere said:
AmberCutie said:
Yeah I've done this once just to see if anyone said anything about me, I didn't pimp myself or chat in the Lounge at all. I've never heard of it being against the rules.
I DID read somewhere that giving shows to members via a premium account webcam was against model rules. But I can't find that documented anywhere right now either. But maybe that's what he was referring to, and possibly what the problem was for the girl who started this conversation.Keithy said:
Hmm yeah she did occasionally get on membercam but I don't remember if there was nudity or anything. She was a very active member in the lounge when not on cam so I guess she kind of stuck out if they were going to enforce that rule on anyone, but I also remember generally that she never pimped herself - sometimes someone in the lounge might but not often, and when she was on at the same time as her member account I don't really recall seeing her say anything much in lounge.
It's a weird rule and obviously rarely enforced since I know a number of models who'll even actively chat and respond to the lounge while on cam. Hell, I even greet one from the lounge sometimes and she'll say back "hi Jup" on her cam lol.
It's a weird rule and obviously rarely enforced since I know a number of models who'll even actively chat and respond to the lounge while on cam. Hell, I even greet one from the lounge sometimes and she'll say back "hi Jup" on her cam lol.
Then I would not consider it a rule. It's not written anywhere for models to know about it before doing it, and I betcha it's more of a case by case basis where they will warn/ban girls for abusing it.nzhere said:
I personally love being in the lounge while on cam and I was doing it the whole time I was on MFC from month three.
It's just nice knowing who to ban or having a cute girl on mute, it's comforting and sexy.
Hell, it's surprising that very few models will let it be known that they're doing it. Haha, most just change their premium name or something. I got so much shit for being "AlexLady2" but as much as people bitched I kept telling them to fuck off; and after doing it for over a year I had still not heard a word from the admins.
The lounge 1000 is much more awesome though.
It's just nice knowing who to ban or having a cute girl on mute, it's comforting and sexy.
Hell, it's surprising that very few models will let it be known that they're doing it. Haha, most just change their premium name or something. I got so much shit for being "AlexLady2" but as much as people bitched I kept telling them to fuck off; and after doing it for over a year I had still not heard a word from the admins.
The lounge 1000 is much more awesome though.
Over the past year or so I've witnessed quite a few models generally from over 2-4k+ camscore advertising skype shows as a matter of fact normal practice outside of MFC, agreeing to have a personal one-on-one or group session at a later time or even set up a later date, always for an upfront tip before the fact of course, or as a requestable option after being given certain tip amounts.SweetMystery said:
From what I've seen of the non-creepy requests the reasoning for members tends to be that the quality of the feed is far superior - If the member's connection is slow and the model's resolution high, it isn't near as jerky, if both connections are high quality it can show far greater quality of image and speed in updating movement than a show with MFC as the middleman.
The quality can even be varied with the member's own settings to their liking, setting it to max out their connection, slow it down or anything in-between, as an added bonus they never have to deal with anyone unwanted randomly joining in on the group options in the middle of play with sudden mood destroying comments like "spread ur ass wide n fist bb".
Of all the various messenger clients Skype has for the moment shown to be the most stable, reliable program for this purpose; no crashing, less lag on a lesser hardware computer with multiple streams active, the audio quality is far superior as a primarily call-making program, etc.
Firstly for all stated below, the rich and famous types will always have an exception, especially to any complaints against them, this is just a part of business and life in general, they bring in too much revenue to be touched, it may not be fair, but it's nothing to be surprised by.
As to the rules themselves, they are nonexistant. They are listed for a few reasons, the first reason given so the moderating staff can point somewhere and say "We have no liability.", the rules will *never* be removed as being there provides an extra pseudo-safety net, however they aren't real rules in any sense of the word, they are merely guidelines.
Just used as an excuse so that when enough people feel the need to complain about a model they can be told off for bothering said people and have the moderator not be argued with nearly as much, having a written set makes arbitrarily deciding who cannot do things far easier, less complaints about decisions come in than having no rules whatsoever.
This in fact is the main purpose of having the rules there.
The bottom line is what the Leo thinks, goes, and is followed by all Admins, he has stated and shown by his actions he prefers MFC being a mostly free to do as you like place, and so that's how it is, there are of course random fines and bans - but these only come when someone in particular has enough complaints lodged against them to the staff to be bothered with.
This next part is purely conjecture, but many of those complaints likely come from other models, who refuse to accept these previous facts, or wish to use them to their own advantage, in getting rid of other models who's practices they dislike, or rabid fans of the selfsame, which seems more likely than the members who are there just to watch, enjoy and interact: as a reference, some of the models, and fans of models of this forum who screencap others and state their intentions to report.
The only true rules, not guidelines, that are mostly enforced are those of:
No male sexual partners on cam: this is sometimes(rarely) taken to extremes of none being allowed to be witnessed or heard at all in a private venue/home, and sometimes let go if there are not enough complaints of the activity, or only for a limited amount of time, such as a passerby in a public place.
Beastiality.
No children *on* the cams: this is for actual liability purposes so no media furor will be roused about child porn.
However those watching are irrelevant, the "enter your age" pages on other sites are purely for looks, they don't hold up in court, just like having to accept a EULA of not being a federal agent/law enforcement officer/anyone looking to cause harm towards a site to be able to click through and access it has absolutely zero weight in court, anything they access can be provided as evidence.
These supposed security/liability measures are in place so people/media don't complain as much, that is all, they have no actual value beyond that.
And finally a model selling their works for cash, not tokens: a big no-no that they usually crack down on for monetary reasons, not surprising.
As to the rules themselves, they are nonexistant. They are listed for a few reasons, the first reason given so the moderating staff can point somewhere and say "We have no liability.", the rules will *never* be removed as being there provides an extra pseudo-safety net, however they aren't real rules in any sense of the word, they are merely guidelines.
Just used as an excuse so that when enough people feel the need to complain about a model they can be told off for bothering said people and have the moderator not be argued with nearly as much, having a written set makes arbitrarily deciding who cannot do things far easier, less complaints about decisions come in than having no rules whatsoever.
This in fact is the main purpose of having the rules there.
The bottom line is what the Leo thinks, goes, and is followed by all Admins, he has stated and shown by his actions he prefers MFC being a mostly free to do as you like place, and so that's how it is, there are of course random fines and bans - but these only come when someone in particular has enough complaints lodged against them to the staff to be bothered with.
This next part is purely conjecture, but many of those complaints likely come from other models, who refuse to accept these previous facts, or wish to use them to their own advantage, in getting rid of other models who's practices they dislike, or rabid fans of the selfsame, which seems more likely than the members who are there just to watch, enjoy and interact: as a reference, some of the models, and fans of models of this forum who screencap others and state their intentions to report.
The only true rules, not guidelines, that are mostly enforced are those of:
No male sexual partners on cam: this is sometimes(rarely) taken to extremes of none being allowed to be witnessed or heard at all in a private venue/home, and sometimes let go if there are not enough complaints of the activity, or only for a limited amount of time, such as a passerby in a public place.
Beastiality.
No children *on* the cams: this is for actual liability purposes so no media furor will be roused about child porn.
However those watching are irrelevant, the "enter your age" pages on other sites are purely for looks, they don't hold up in court, just like having to accept a EULA of not being a federal agent/law enforcement officer/anyone looking to cause harm towards a site to be able to click through and access it has absolutely zero weight in court, anything they access can be provided as evidence.
These supposed security/liability measures are in place so people/media don't complain as much, that is all, they have no actual value beyond that.
And finally a model selling their works for cash, not tokens: a big no-no that they usually crack down on for monetary reasons, not surprising.
Rawr said:
I do skypes at times and they're great. Quality is better for me to a degree, although not that much different, but what is VASTLY better is the connection quality. Tons less lag, plus as you pointed out, there isn't the random bullshit that happens with other members distracting the model. I expect it in a group, but even if you are private spying members can send tips with distracting tip notes and there are always pm's which most models do not turn off, which can even be a problem in trueprivate. So that's the BIGGEST attraction for me to skype shows, complete undivided attention.
Unfortunately, there are people who try to scam that way. I just did a show with a model yesterday who apparently had someone trying to pose as a member of the adult industry wanting to "audition" her through skype for free. Then there are the members who want 45 minute to an hour skypes for 30-40 bucks, which is pretty bad too.
All in all I think there is nothing wrong with Skype shows, but the model does need to educate themselves on going rates for shows and decide what prices she is comfortable with for what time lengths. Also have to watch for those scammers who try for free shows with whatever con they come up with.
Wow, checking PMs during a private is common? :shock: I minimize my PM window during group/private, I assumed that was the general practice.
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You left out public toilet shows, and Models that look too young (quite an issue in the Asian side of the site)
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ComicOzzie said:
O.O
No matter how bored I am in private, I *don't* send a message to someone else. I ignore my phone if it rings, and have even had the wrath of my partner on me for a whole 30 seconds because I didn't response (he stopped when I said "I was in the middle of a show, what was I supposed to do, annoy the person who's paying for my time?")
Edit- one time I did. It was to tell someone to shut the fuck up, I'm in the middle of a show. That was before I found out how to mute messenger sounds without muting the computer.
Question here how can you tell between the fake and real administrators?Cause some people can be very sneaky and make it seem like they are an admin.I'd never fall for it again on the one site I fell for that act yet but i wanna kow the difference here just so I don't make a stupid desision again lol.
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No matter how bored I am in private, I *don't* send a message to someone else. I ignore my phone if it rings, and have even had the wrath of my partner on me for a whole 30 seconds because I didn't response (he stopped when I said "I was in the middle of a show, what was I supposed to do, annoy the person who's paying for my time?")
Edit- one time I did. It was to tell someone to shut the fuck up, I'm in the middle of a show. That was before I found out how to mute messenger sounds without muting the computer.[/quote]
I'm with you LadyLuna. I ignore my phone and everything. And I've definitely been into it with my partner bc he didnt know I was in private at the time. And my response was about that same as yours, "I was in private, sorry!" lol.
No matter how bored I am in private, I *don't* send a message to someone else. I ignore my phone if it rings, and have even had the wrath of my partner on me for a whole 30 seconds because I didn't response (he stopped when I said "I was in the middle of a show, what was I supposed to do, annoy the person who's paying for my time?")
Edit- one time I did. It was to tell someone to shut the fuck up, I'm in the middle of a show. That was before I found out how to mute messenger sounds without muting the computer.
[/quote]I'm with you LadyLuna. I ignore my phone and everything. And I've definitely been into it with my partner bc he didnt know I was in private at the time. And my response was about that same as yours, "I was in private, sorry!" lol.
binga said:
It could be a variety of factors... some models deactivate their own accounts for personal reasons, maybe she is taking a break from the cam scene.
Some do fall victim to the studio scams as nzhere points out, and become innocent victims when a whole studio is shut because of maybe only one or two recycled model accounts. Sure its against the rules, but it means that many girls become collateral damage, caught in the cross fire through no fault of their own. Sad I know, but shit happens bud.
If you know any other regs that used her room maybe drop them a PM they might know the full circumstances. Or maybe someone in the lounge will know.
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