MFC Chat commands /helper (the MFC "RoomHelper" thread)

[AmberCutie]

Re: MFC Chat commands /helper

My prediction: annoying shitbags will continue to be annoying shitbags, and so, mixed up with

skype bb
open bobs
my 11 inches are ready for you on cam, bb

will be

need a mod?
need a mod?
I'd be a great mod!
mod bb?
need a mod?
you really need a mod, bb
will mod for skype, bb

A huge difference between CB's mod system and MFC's room helpers is that CB flaunts a mod's status to the room. I believe their name is a different color(?) and it's almost like being crowned "king of the room" there. MFC's room helpers aren't even able to be deciphered unless the model or the helper tells the room they are the helper. The viewers aren't able to see if the helper bans someone. I hope this distinction doesn't change, or it could get as annoying as bakers suggests.

When I was helper it showed in the topic. Was that automatic or did the model put it there? I never thought to ask; just assumed it was part of the feature.

It doesn't show anyone but the helper. Of course you need to know (be visually notified/reminded) if you're the helper.

 

[nzhere]

Re: MFC Chat commands /helper

Re the @remain command in the model topic

There could be some other @ codes that models could use to automate / update refresh parts the topic?

@htip This could show the highest tip/tipper of the session
@htipd as above but highest tip of the day
@recordtip same as above but would show the models highest ever received tip.
@tipking shows the membername and the amount of tokens they tipped, who has tipped the most for that session
@rhelper would list who the current Helper is

 

[Zoomer]

Re: MFC Chat commands /helper

Was surprised to see this, and thanks to the person who mentioned @remain as I didn't realise there were more features!

As for drama and potential for abuse - I don't care very much. The rooms I visit don't have the drama llama white knight nutters. The ones who do will probably drive more members to other rooms instead. Its up the models whether they make anyone one of these, and also up to them to remove it if it's abused. If the model is happy with someone banning for whatever, then more members for other rooms!

I see no drawbacks

 

[nzhere]

Re: MFC Chat commands /helper

Re the @remain command in the model topic

There could be some other @ codes that models could use to automate / update refresh parts the topic?

@htip This could show the highest tip/tipper of the session
@htipd as above but highest tip of the day
@recordtip same as above but would show the models highest ever received tip.
@tipking shows the membername and the amount of tokens they tipped, who has tipped the most for that session
@rhelper would list who the current Helper is

some codes would be linked to using bot type scripts others would take static values

@timer(number) would countdown from x minutes in the topic, example
"Get all my videos for only 100 tokens for the next @timer30 mins"

 

[Leon_Omega]

Re: MFC Chat commands /helper

the screen would jump at times and make you ban someone you never meant to ban

I've silenced a fellow mod because of this once. Felt bad even though he completely understood.

They've since removed the ability to silence other mods, thankfully

 

[JerryBoBerry]

Re: MFC Chat commands /helper

For those who haven't been Helper yet, when you are and type /help the new commands list is:

Obviously most of those you have normally, just showing the complete list to see the differences.

 

[nzhere]

Re: MFC Chat commands /helper

They should have a /goal command which would be like the /countdown except it would include ALL earnt tokens from pvt,trupvts,spys,and tips.

 

[LilyEvans]

Re: MFC Chat commands /helper

They should have a /goal command which would be like the /countdown except it would include ALL earnt tokens from pvt,trupvts,spys,and tips.

Models already have a way to see all tokens earned from a shift, including the total and a breakdown by type: tips, groups, private, spies, etc. Unless you meant one that would be visible to members, but I cannot see the benefit of that.

 

[Teagan]

Re: MFC Chat commands /helper

the screen would jump at times and make you ban someone you never meant to ban

I've silenced a fellow mod because of this once. Felt bad even though he completely understood.

They've since removed the ability to silence other mods, thankfully

I accidentally banned a great member once do to it. I had to email Shirley to get it undone as the option to unban still wasnt around. He understood but still sucked.

 

[Leon_Omega]

Re: MFC Chat commands /helper

the screen would jump at times and make you ban someone you never meant to ban

I've silenced a fellow mod because of this once. Felt bad even though he completely understood.

They've since removed the ability to silence other mods, thankfully

I accidentally banned a great member once do to it. I had to email Shirley to get it undone as the option to unban still wasnt around. He understood but still sucked.

I've been on the receiving end of one of those, thankfully much later. It was very heartwarming to see the model doing everything in her power to get me unbanned when I came in on my second account

 

[roomhelper]

Re: MFC Chat commands /helper

Well i am helping a model right now. Mostly because she is new to public shows and she was doing privates before.

The feature is handy, but i think a few things can be implement to make it awesome. Some have been mentioned already, but I am gonna list all of them again anyway:

1. Option for ninja tips to count or not

2. If the model updates the topic, it should update for the helper. Model updated topic, i thought it update the countdown and i was changed something else. Countdown was the same as I had it type before. Annoying!

3. Option to make room helper visible or not. I like to get ideas from tippers, particularly the high tipper. So if people know who the helper is, they can pm me. Of course it can be annoying. But I dont mind it and I can filter out the bad stuff and push the good stuff to the models. Some tippers are hestitant/shy to let the models know what they like. Telling another member is easier.

4. I think there are some issues with unbanning members, banned by a helper.

roomhelper is hard work... have to be in that models room (cant watch anyone else). keep track of things in chat.
5. a timer option in topic???

 

[JoleneBrody]

Re: MFC Chat commands /helper

3. Option to make room helper visible or not. I like to get ideas from tippers, particularly the high tipper. So if people know who the helper is, they can pm me. Of course it can be annoying. But I dont mind it and I can filter out the bad stuff and push the good stuff to the models. Some tippers are hestitant/shy to let the models know what they like. Telling another member is easier.

Wha... why?

 

[JerryBoBerry]

Re: MFC Chat commands /helper

Well i am helping a model right now. Mostly because she is new to public shows and she was doing privates before.

The feature is handy, but i think a few things can be implement to make it awesome. Some have been mentioned already, but I am gonna list all of them again anyway:

1. Option for ninja tips to count or not

2. If the model updates the topic, it should update for the helper. Model updated topic, i thought it update the countdown and i was changed something else. Countdown was the same as I had it type before. Annoying!

3. Option to make room helper visible or not. I like to get ideas from tippers, particularly the high tipper. So if people know who the helper is, they can pm me. Of course it can be annoying. But I dont mind it and I can filter out the bad stuff and push the good stuff to the models. Some tippers are hestitant/shy to let the models know what they like. Telling another member is easier.

4. I think there are some issues with unbanning members, banned by a helper.

roomhelper is hard work... have to be in that models room (cant watch anyone else). keep track of things in chat.
5. a timer option in topic???

This is the models room I would put on ignore and never go back if i encountered this Helper.
Just sayin'

 

[roomhelper]

Re: MFC Chat commands /helper

As i said she was new to the whole public show thing.

I think once she figures it out she wont need a helper at all :-D

thats ok Jerry, 1000s of members out there. 1 gone wont make a difference.

Not everyone is well established as you Jolene with your level of camming experience, a high camscore and regulars.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

Re: MFC Chat commands /helper

Some of these room helpers are going to be doing the exact opposite of helping the model. Models better choose wisely. Cool feature otherwise.

 

[ACFFAN69]

Re: MFC Chat commands /helper

Well i am helping a model right now. Mostly because she is new to public shows and she was doing privates before.

The feature is handy, but i think a few things can be implement to make it awesome. Some have been mentioned already, but I am gonna list all of them again anyway:

1. Option for ninja tips to count or not

3. Option to make room helper visible or not. I like to get ideas from tippers, particularly the high tipper. So if people know who the helper is, they can pm me. Of course it can be annoying. But I dont mind it and I can filter out the bad stuff and push the good stuff to the models. Some tippers are hestitant/shy to let the models know what they like. Telling another member is easier.

My knee-jerk reaction to "more options" makes me at first initially agree with you, after all, if the model gets a choice, what could be wrong?

1) The problem with "options" are that once you make it easy for a model to implement something, it may become used so widespread that not going with the option will actually impact her show. This is specifically an issue for ninja tips being allowed or not. I could see many models implementing this, and then any models that don't count ninja tips to their countdown will be considered greedy or cheap. If this were to occur, then it would barely be considered an option anymore, but instead a requirement. From a members perspective, I think this is great and that ninja tips should count toward the countdown, but this might not be fair for the models (for example, it will be far easier to tell how much a model makes per night). Right now, at least they have the choice to count ninja tips toward the countdown if they want to or not with very little effort. I'm torn on this suggestion, I am slightly leaning toward it being a good idea, but understand that my viewpoint is biased as a member.

3) I personally think this is a bad idea. One of my favourite things about myfreecams is the feeling of a community that a models chatroom can become, but if that community instead becomes a clique this can really turn off members new to the room. I feel like showing off "room helpers" in a room does nothing but provide an outlet for "the in crowd" of a room to show off, and something that will make less frequent or new members to feel left out, in the end hurting a models ability to keep new members as repeat viewers. I can't see any good reason for this to be implemented with the exception of "room helper for XXX tokens", which seems like a horrible business decision to give random members this kind of power just because they tipped. I already hate the "room helper" addition personally, but the one right thing they did with it was make it mandatory as hidden.

 

[jessie125]

Re: MFC Chat commands /helper

I'm looking at my web broadcaster right now and I can't see it anymore. This sucks; room helpers have been a real, well, help, in the past couple of days

 

[AmberCutie]

Re: MFC Chat commands /helper

I'm looking at my web broadcaster right now and I can't see it anymore. This sucks; room helpers have been a real, well, help, in the past couple of days

It won't show until you select a helper.

 

[SexySteph]

Re: MFC Chat commands /helper

Well i am helping a model right now. Mostly because she is new to public shows and she was doing privates before.

The feature is handy, but i think a few things can be implement to make it awesome. Some have been mentioned already, but I am gonna list all of them again anyway:

1. Option for ninja tips to count or not

3. Option to make room helper visible or not. I like to get ideas from tippers, particularly the high tipper. So if people know who the helper is, they can pm me. Of course it can be annoying. But I dont mind it and I can filter out the bad stuff and push the good stuff to the models. Some tippers are hestitant/shy to let the models know what they like. Telling another member is easier.

My knee-jerk reaction to "more options" makes me at first initially agree with you, after all, if the model gets a choice, what could be wrong?

1) The problem with "options" are that once you make it easy for a model to implement something, it may become used so widespread that not going with the option will actually impact her show. This is specifically an issue for ninja tips being allowed or not. I could see many models implementing this, and then any models that don't count ninja tips to their countdown will be considered greedy or cheap. If this were to occur, then it would barely be considered an option anymore, but instead a requirement. From a members perspective, I think this is great and that ninja tips should count toward the countdown, but this might not be fair for the models (for example, it will be far easier to tell how much a model makes per night). Right now, at least they have the choice to count ninja tips toward the countdown if they want to or not with very little effort. I'm torn on this suggestion, I am slightly leaning toward it being a good idea, but understand that my viewpoint is biased as a member.

3) I personally think this is a bad idea. One of my favourite things about myfreecams is the feeling of a community that a models chatroom can become, but if that community instead becomes a clique this can really turn off members new to the room. I feel like showing off "room helpers" in a room does nothing but provide an outlet for "the in crowd" of a room to show off, and something that will make less frequent or new members to feel left out, in the end hurting a models ability to keep new members as repeat viewers. I can't see any good reason for this to be implemented with the exception of "room helper for XXX tokens", which seems like a horrible business decision to give random members this kind of power just because they tipped. I already hate the "room helper" addition personally, but the one right thing they did with it was make it mandatory as hidden.

If members want their tips to count towards the countdown the have the option to not do a ninja tip. Imho the only guys who want girls to count those big ninja tips are the ones that are just there for the show and just want the countdown to move faster from someone else's efforts.

 

[ACFFAN69]

Re: MFC Chat commands /helper

Well i am helping a model right now. Mostly because she is new to public shows and she was doing privates before.

The feature is handy, but i think a few things can be implement to make it awesome. Some have been mentioned already, but I am gonna list all of them again anyway:

1. Option for ninja tips to count or not

3. Option to make room helper visible or not. I like to get ideas from tippers, particularly the high tipper. So if people know who the helper is, they can pm me. Of course it can be annoying. But I dont mind it and I can filter out the bad stuff and push the good stuff to the models. Some tippers are hestitant/shy to let the models know what they like. Telling another member is easier.

My knee-jerk reaction to "more options" makes me at first initially agree with you, after all, if the model gets a choice, what could be wrong?

1) The problem with "options" are that once you make it easy for a model to implement something, it may become used so widespread that not going with the option will actually impact her show. This is specifically an issue for ninja tips being allowed or not. I could see many models implementing this, and then any models that don't count ninja tips to their countdown will be considered greedy or cheap. If this were to occur, then it would barely be considered an option anymore, but instead a requirement. From a members perspective, I think this is great and that ninja tips should count toward the countdown, but this might not be fair for the models (for example, it will be far easier to tell how much a model makes per night). Right now, at least they have the choice to count ninja tips toward the countdown if they want to or not with very little effort. I'm torn on this suggestion, I am slightly leaning toward it being a good idea, but understand that my viewpoint is biased as a member.

3) I personally think this is a bad idea. One of my favourite things about myfreecams is the feeling of a community that a models chatroom can become, but if that community instead becomes a clique this can really turn off members new to the room. I feel like showing off "room helpers" in a room does nothing but provide an outlet for "the in crowd" of a room to show off, and something that will make less frequent or new members to feel left out, in the end hurting a models ability to keep new members as repeat viewers. I can't see any good reason for this to be implemented with the exception of "room helper for XXX tokens", which seems like a horrible business decision to give random members this kind of power just because they tipped. I already hate the "room helper" addition personally, but the one right thing they did with it was make it mandatory as hidden.

If members want their tips to count towards the countdown the have the option to not do a ninja tip. Imho the only guys who want girls to count those big ninja tips are the ones that are just there for the show and just want the countdown to move faster from someone else's efforts.

That isn't true at all. I don't think you intentionally meant to speak in absolutes though, and meant "the majority" rather then "the only". Of course "the majority" feel this way because "the majority" on the site are freeloaders.

The members that are tipping hard for the show that are making up for the freeloaders also want those ninja tips to count. I've frequently had situations where the only one tipping for the show is myself, with afew extra tips here and there. Is it selfish for the non-ninja tipping member to want those ninja tips to count? I suppose maybe it is, but it still does not feel good when you are carrying the bulk of a show on your back because you want want to see the show the model has to offer, and someone that could be assisting to drop the countdown is not. Don't get me wrong I definately love ninja tippers, as they help support the models I also enjoy, and assist in creating a positive camming environment. I'd take a room full of ninja tippers to freeloaders any day.

Nevertheless, I don't feel like I should feel bad for wanting to see a show offered without having to pay hundreds myself to see it. Camming isn't a one-sided form of entertainment. Both the model and the tippers paying for the show are getting what they want through tips. Neither the model receiving the tips , nor the members paying those tips for a show are really being selfish.

 

[AmberCutie]

Re: MFC Chat commands /helper

Well i am helping a model right now. Mostly because she is new to public shows and she was doing privates before.

The feature is handy, but i think a few things can be implement to make it awesome. Some have been mentioned already, but I am gonna list all of them again anyway:

1. Option for ninja tips to count or not

3. Option to make room helper visible or not. I like to get ideas from tippers, particularly the high tipper. So if people know who the helper is, they can pm me. Of course it can be annoying. But I dont mind it and I can filter out the bad stuff and push the good stuff to the models. Some tippers are hestitant/shy to let the models know what they like. Telling another member is easier.

My knee-jerk reaction to "more options" makes me at first initially agree with you, after all, if the model gets a choice, what could be wrong?

1) The problem with "options" are that once you make it easy for a model to implement something, it may become used so widespread that not going with the option will actually impact her show. This is specifically an issue for ninja tips being allowed or not. I could see many models implementing this, and then any models that don't count ninja tips to their countdown will be considered greedy or cheap. If this were to occur, then it would barely be considered an option anymore, but instead a requirement. From a members perspective, I think this is great and that ninja tips should count toward the countdown, but this might not be fair for the models (for example, it will be far easier to tell how much a model makes per night). Right now, at least they have the choice to count ninja tips toward the countdown if they want to or not with very little effort. I'm torn on this suggestion, I am slightly leaning toward it being a good idea, but understand that my viewpoint is biased as a member.

3) I personally think this is a bad idea. One of my favourite things about myfreecams is the feeling of a community that a models chatroom can become, but if that community instead becomes a clique this can really turn off members new to the room. I feel like showing off "room helpers" in a room does nothing but provide an outlet for "the in crowd" of a room to show off, and something that will make less frequent or new members to feel left out, in the end hurting a models ability to keep new members as repeat viewers. I can't see any good reason for this to be implemented with the exception of "room helper for XXX tokens", which seems like a horrible business decision to give random members this kind of power just because they tipped. I already hate the "room helper" addition personally, but the one right thing they did with it was make it mandatory as hidden.

If members want their tips to count towards the countdown the have the option to not do a ninja tip. Imho the only guys who want girls to count those big ninja tips are the ones that are just there for the show and just want the countdown to move faster from someone else's efforts.

That isn't true at all. I don't think you intentionally meant to speak in absolutes though, and meant "the majority" rather then "the only". Of course "the majority" feel this way because "the majority" on the site are freeloaders.

The members that are tipping hard for the show that are making up for the freeloaders also want those ninja tips to count. I've frequently had situations where the only one tipping for the show is myself, with afew extra tips here and there. Is it selfish for the non-ninja tipping member to want those ninja tips to count? I suppose maybe it is, but it still does not feel good when you are carrying the bulk of a show on your back because you want want to see the show the model has to offer, and someone that could be assisting to drop the countdown is not. Don't get me wrong I definately love ninja tippers, as they help support the models I also enjoy, and assist in creating a positive camming environment. I'd take a room full of ninja tippers to freeloaders any day.

Nevertheless, I don't feel like I should feel bad for wanting to see a show offered without having to pay hundreds myself to see it. Camming isn't a one-sided form of entertainment. Both the model and the tippers paying for the show are getting what they want through tips. Neither the members paying for a show nor the model receiving the tips are selfish.

Remember, the model can update the count remaining at any time to count ninja tips if she chooses to use them toward the count.

 

[ACFFAN69]

Re: MFC Chat commands /helper

My knee-jerk reaction to "more options" makes me at first initially agree with you, after all, if the model gets a choice, what could be wrong?

1) The problem with "options" are that once you make it easy for a model to implement something, it may become used so widespread that not going with the option will actually impact her show. This is specifically an issue for ninja tips being allowed or not. I could see many models implementing this, and then any models that don't count ninja tips to their countdown will be considered greedy or cheap. If this were to occur, then it would barely be considered an option anymore, but instead a requirement. From a members perspective, I think this is great and that ninja tips should count toward the countdown, but this might not be fair for the models (for example, it will be far easier to tell how much a model makes per night). Right now, at least they have the choice to count ninja tips toward the countdown if they want to or not with very little effort. I'm torn on this suggestion, I am slightly leaning toward it being a good idea, but understand that my viewpoint is biased as a member.

3) I personally think this is a bad idea. One of my favourite things about myfreecams is the feeling of a community that a models chatroom can become, but if that community instead becomes a clique this can really turn off members new to the room. I feel like showing off "room helpers" in a room does nothing but provide an outlet for "the in crowd" of a room to show off, and something that will make less frequent or new members to feel left out, in the end hurting a models ability to keep new members as repeat viewers. I can't see any good reason for this to be implemented with the exception of "room helper for XXX tokens", which seems like a horrible business decision to give random members this kind of power just because they tipped. I already hate the "room helper" addition personally, but the one right thing they did with it was make it mandatory as hidden.

If members want their tips to count towards the countdown the have the option to not do a ninja tip. Imho the only guys who want girls to count those big ninja tips are the ones that are just there for the show and just want the countdown to move faster from someone else's efforts.

That isn't true at all. I don't think you intentionally meant to speak in absolutes though, and meant "the majority" rather then "the only". Of course "the majority" feel this way because "the majority" on the site are freeloaders.

The members that are tipping hard for the show that are making up for the freeloaders also want those ninja tips to count. I've frequently had situations where the only one tipping for the show is myself, with afew extra tips here and there. Is it selfish for the non-ninja tipping member to want those ninja tips to count? I suppose maybe it is, but it still does not feel good when you are carrying the bulk of a show on your back because you want want to see the show the model has to offer, and someone that could be assisting to drop the countdown is not. Don't get me wrong I definately love ninja tippers, as they help support the models I also enjoy, and assist in creating a positive camming environment. I'd take a room full of ninja tippers to freeloaders any day.

Nevertheless, I don't feel like I should feel bad for wanting to see a show offered without having to pay hundreds myself to see it. Camming isn't a one-sided form of entertainment. Both the model and the tippers paying for the show are getting what they want through tips. Neither the members paying for a show nor the model receiving the tips are selfish.

Remember, the model can update the count remaining at any time to count ninja tips if she chooses to use them toward the count.

Agreed, and in my previous response to roomhelper I mentioned that: "Right now, at least they have the choice to count ninja tips toward the countdown if they want to or not with very little effort."

I'm very slightly leaning toward the option should be available, with the understanding that my viewpoint is biased as a member. Which probably means that my true viewpoint is that it should remain how it is. I don't see many negatives for including it, but there are also very little positives for including it either.

 

[weirdbr]

Re: MFC Chat commands /helper

1) The problem with "options" are that once you make it easy for a model to implement something, it may become used so widespread that not going with the option will actually impact her show. This is specifically an issue for ninja tips being allowed or not. I could see many models implementing this, and then any models that don't count ninja tips to their countdown will be considered greedy or cheap. If this were to occur, then it would barely be considered an option anymore, but instead a requirement.

Personally I don't see it this way - even before this feature was available, models had differing approaches on what counts for countdowns (for example ninja included or not; content purchases included or not). I'm sure the type of people that currently consider the models that don't include every single tip in the countdown to be 'greedy' will keep thinking the same whether this feature is available or not. But having support for including (or not) those tips help the models that choose to do that.

The argument that it's easy to include ninjas now by manually has been made a few times, but why not make it easier? Even if it benefits only a small percentage of the models on the site, that's still a nice selling point for MFC for prospective models ("we support all approaches"). Just make sure that all features are optional and voila.

 

[roomhelper]

Re: MFC Chat commands /helper

@ACFFAN69

Ninja tips counting or not counting towards countdown is already an option anyway. Some models count them and some don't. I mean some members consider a model to be greedy or cheap if they have x amount countdown anyway. So i dont think this is an issue.

Again each room is different. And its just an option...no harm. Models can choose to hide the roomhelper or reveal them.

@SexySteph

The whole point of a ninja tip is confidentiality. It has nothing to do with countdown. Some members dont want others to see them tipping or to see what they are purchasing etc. Or they maybe tipping for something else.

Just makes it easier to count ninja tips. She will still have to adjust countdowns anyway for other tips too. Some models dont count friend adds or buying videos towards countdowns. So pretty much all models will still have to adjust countdowns anyway.

Depending on the room, some models get a lot more ninja tips than public tips. Hence why having option can be useful.

At this point i find a lot of models are not implementing the automatic countdown because they have to make a lot of adjustments anyway.

 

[Trav]

Re: MFC Chat commands /helper

Well i am helping a model right now. Mostly because she is new to public shows and she was doing privates before.

The feature is handy, but i think a few things can be implement to make it awesome. Some have been mentioned already, but I am gonna list all of them again anyway:

1. Option for ninja tips to count or not

3. Option to make room helper visible or not. I like to get ideas from tippers, particularly the high tipper. So if people know who the helper is, they can pm me. Of course it can be annoying. But I dont mind it and I can filter out the bad stuff and push the good stuff to the models. Some tippers are hestitant/shy to let the models know what they like. Telling another member is easier.

My knee-jerk reaction to "more options" makes me at first initially agree with you, after all, if the model gets a choice, what could be wrong?

1) The problem with "options" are that once you make it easy for a model to implement something, it may become used so widespread that not going with the option will actually impact her show. This is specifically an issue for ninja tips being allowed or not. I could see many models implementing this, and then any models that don't count ninja tips to their countdown will be considered greedy or cheap. If this were to occur, then it would barely be considered an option anymore, but instead a requirement. From a members perspective, I think this is great and that ninja tips should count toward the countdown, but this might not be fair for the models (for example, it will be far easier to tell how much a model makes per night). Right now, at least they have the choice to count ninja tips toward the countdown if they want to or not with very little effort. I'm torn on this suggestion, I am slightly leaning toward it being a good idea, but understand that my viewpoint is biased as a member.

3) I personally think this is a bad idea. One of my favourite things about myfreecams is the feeling of a community that a models chatroom can become, but if that community instead becomes a clique this can really turn off members new to the room. I feel like showing off "room helpers" in a room does nothing but provide an outlet for "the in crowd" of a room to show off, and something that will make less frequent or new members to feel left out, in the end hurting a models ability to keep new members as repeat viewers. I can't see any good reason for this to be implemented with the exception of "room helper for XXX tokens", which seems like a horrible business decision to give random members this kind of power just because they tipped. I already hate the "room helper" addition personally, but the one right thing they did with it was make it mandatory as hidden.

If members want their tips to count towards the countdown the have the option to not do a ninja tip. Imho the only guys who want girls to count those big ninja tips are the ones that are just there for the show and just want the countdown to move faster from someone else's efforts.

That isn't true at all. I don't think you intentionally meant to speak in absolutes though, and meant "the majority" rather then "the only". Of course "the majority" feel this way because "the majority" on the site are freeloaders.

The members that are tipping hard for the show that are making up for the freeloaders also want those ninja tips to count. I've frequently had situations where the only one tipping for the show is myself, with afew extra tips here and there. Is it selfish for the non-ninja tipping member to want those ninja tips to count? I suppose maybe it is, but it still does not feel good when you are carrying the bulk of a show on your back because you want want to see the show the model has to offer, and someone that could be assisting to drop the countdown is not. Don't get me wrong I definately love ninja tippers, as they help support the models I also enjoy, and assist in creating a positive camming environment. I'd take a room full of ninja tippers to freeloaders any day.

Nevertheless, I don't feel like I should feel bad for wanting to see a show offered without having to pay hundreds myself to see it. Camming isn't a one-sided form of entertainment. Both the model and the tippers paying for the show are getting what they want through tips. Neither the model receiving the tips , nor the members paying those tips for a show are really being selfish.

As someone who frequently tips ninja without the intention of said tips going toward topics... tough tiddlywinks lol. :lol:

We each paid for our tokens. You spend them how you like and I'll do the same

 

[ACFFAN69]

Re: MFC Chat commands /helper

As someone who frequently tips ninja without the intention of said tips going toward topics... tough tiddlywinks lol. :lol:

We each paid for our tokens. You spend them how you like and I'll do the same

I really hope my post did not imply that I feel that I don't like ninja tips, I specifically said that I absolutely do, right after the section you bolded. You are supporting the model, and that is fantastic.

All I am saying is, if I'm interested in a show being offered, I'd rather the ninja tip go toward that show. This was in reply to a post stating that anyone that wants that option is a freeloader. I was just stating that obviousily many non-ninja tipper also probably want them to count.

I do agree with you though, that if you do not want your tip to count toward the countdown, then it shouldn't. There is nothing wrong with that either (obviousily).

Also the times I have ninja tipped a few times because it was the prudent thing to do at the time (buying videos for other members for example), I was hoping it would go toward the countdown. I would not be surprised if the majority of ninja tippers felt this way.

I also hope it didn't come across that I only tip for the countdown. I frequently gladly tip when there is no countdown, and I tip for a countdown even if I have no interest in the show. It is about supporting the models show first and foremost, so that she has incentive to continue her job in the future. When there is a show that greatly interests me though, I'm happy for every tip dropping that countdown.

 

[nzhere]

Re: MFC Chat commands /helper

They should have a /goal command which would be like the /countdown except it would include ALL earnt tokens from pvt,trupvts,spys,and tips.

Models already have a way to see all tokens earned from a shift, including the total and a breakdown by type: tips, groups, private, spies, etc. Unless you meant one that would be visible to members, but I cannot see the benefit of that.

Yes one that would be visable to the members in her topic, an @goal variable for in her topic. If she wanted to login with a goal of staying on until she made say 2000 tokens. tips, pvts and tru pvts and spy would all deduct from the goal amount rather than only tips deducting from a countdown.

 

[darthro]

Re: MFC Chat commands /helper

I really hope my post did not imply that I feel that I don't like ninja tips, I specifically said that I absolutely do, right after the section you bolded. You are supporting the model, and that is fantastic.

All I am saying is, if I'm interested in a show being offered, I'd rather the ninja tip go toward that show. This was in reply to a post stating that anyone that wants that option is a freeloader. I was just stating that obviousily many non-ninja tipper also probably want them to count.

I do agree with you though, that if you do not want your tip to count toward the countdown, then it shouldn't. There is nothing wrong with that either (obviousily).

Also the times I have ninja tipped a few times because it was the prudent thing to do at the time (buying videos for other members for example), I was hoping it would go toward the countdown. I would not be surprised if the majority of ninja tippers felt this way.

I also hope it didn't come across that I only tip for the countdown. I frequently gladly tip when there is no countdown, and I tip for a countdown even if I have no interest in the show. It is about supporting the models show first and foremost, so that she has incentive to continue her job in the future. When there is a show that greatly interests me though, I'm happy for every tip dropping that countdown.

Easiest way to do that is ask/tell the model in the tip note to count it towards the countdown if she also counts video/for content tips towards the countdown. From what I have observed most ninja tippers do it that way because they don't want the tip counting towards the countdown

A lot of times I will tip ninja and specifically put in the tip note that it is NOT towards the countdown if the model counts all tips for the countdown. Obviously I can't stop her from counting them but also it would mean less tipping for her from me

 

[darthro]

Re: MFC Chat commands /helper

They should have a /goal command which would be like the /countdown except it would include ALL earnt tokens from pvt,trupvts,spys,and tips.

Models already have a way to see all tokens earned from a shift, including the total and a breakdown by type: tips, groups, private, spies, etc. Unless you meant one that would be visible to members, but I cannot see the benefit of that.

Yes one that would be visable to the members in her topic, an @goal variable for in her topic. If she wanted to login with a goal of staying on until she made say 2000 tokens. tips, pvts and tru pvts and spy would all deduct from the goal amount rather than only tips deducting from a countdown.

Unfortunately I don't think most models want people to know how much they have made from privates/true privates and spy tokens so no need for that to be visible for every one since it would reduce the tipping for a lot of the models IMO

 

[NicoleRiley]

Re: MFC Chat commands /helper

They should have a /goal command which would be like the /countdown except it would include ALL earnt tokens from pvt,trupvts,spys,and tips.

Models already have a way to see all tokens earned from a shift, including the total and a breakdown by type: tips, groups, private, spies, etc. Unless you meant one that would be visible to members, but I cannot see the benefit of that.

Yes one that would be visable to the members in her topic, an @goal variable for in her topic. If she wanted to login with a goal of staying on until she made say 2000 tokens. tips, pvts and tru pvts and spy would all deduct from the goal amount rather than only tips deducting from a countdown.

There is literally ZERO point to this.

Here is what we see on our end:


The model can see if she has made her nightly goal or not. I see no benefit in giving the members access to this information. I can just see this causing problems with members calling certain girls greedy or comparing different girls nightly goals.