Member Abuse/Blackmail

[Kitty_Minxi]

I couldn't find anywhere on here about this topic (though I am still a n00b and getting used to the site).

I know what to do when members are bullying/being abusive. I block/ban them for life.

But what do you do when members a threatening or blackmailing you?

I went to my local police station and because I don't have this person's real name they can't do anything.

It's to the point that he's sending me death threats over the internet.

I constantly block and report him, but he makes new accounts.

I've had to put all my social media's on the highest level of privacy.

TIA,
Kitty xx

 

[Smores]

I couldn't find anywhere on here about this topic (though I am still a n00b and getting used to the site).

I know what to do when members are bullying/being abusive. I block/ban them for life.

But what do you do when members a threatening or blackmailing you?

I went to my local police station and because I don't have this person's real name they can't do anything.

It's to the point that he's sending me death threats over the internet.

I constantly block and report him, but he makes new accounts.

I've had to put all my social media's on the highest level of privacy.

If it is at that stage, can't you just silence all Basics and Guests on MFC? If he is constantly creating new Premium accounts, that would require him to be using a credit card and that identifies him to MFC. If you block both chat room and private messages from all Basics, how is he able to reach you from a new account?

 

[Kitty_Minxi]

It's not just on MFC. He's on my Twitter, Tumblr, MV, YouKndy, e-mails, ELM, iWantClips, Ffetlife, Insta, PBG, porn hub, etc.

He's even found my personal Facebook, and mobile number.

 

[AudriTwo]

Ugh, that's just awful to hear. I'm so sorry you are going through that. You did the right thing going to the police. Sucks they can't do much. Have you tried contacting the sites personally he has been harassing you on and explain the situation a little bit more? Or have they not really done much?


Best thing to do is ignore him. Keep records of all his blackmail and harassment towards you. Don't feed into his attention seeking behavior. Just keep blocking and ignoring, he will eventually get bored. Don't let this nobody terrorize you.

**hugs**

 

[Keziah]

Ignoring is your best option. If he gets no reaction from you, he'll get bored and move on. Unfortunately there isn't much else to do.

I would also make sure all of your accounts have VERY strong passwords (20characters++) in case he does try to gain access to them (especially facebook).

 

[AudriTwo]

I would also just deactivate any personal social media accounts just to be safe. If anyone asks why just blame it on the political climate.

 

[Kitty_Minxi]

I've emailed the sites he's stalking me on and keep them up to date.
They shut him down asap. None of my personal social media accounts have my real name.

I don't respond to him or interact with him at all. I just screenshot and block.

 

[AudriTwo]

I would still shut those down and get a new phone number.

 

[Kitty_Minxi]

I have changed my number 15 times in the last month..

 

[Smores]

It's not just on MFC. He's on my Twitter, Tumblr, MV, YouKndy, e-mails, ELM, iWantClips, Ffetlife, Insta, PBG, porn hub, etc.

He's even found my personal Facebook, and mobile number.

I'm sorry to say this, but I think this guy has something planted on your computer. I don't think he could get into so many accounts if he had not hacked something.

Do you have an option to have a dedicated PC just for your webcam activity? I think your main computer has to be suspect at this point.

This is all such a hassle for you. I'm sorry.

 

[AudriTwo]

I have changed my number 15 times in the last month..

Do you think you are hacked?

 

[Kitty_Minxi]

I only have the one laptop and just got it back a week ago from having the hard drive replaced and the laptop completely wiped.

 

[SMuser69]

Don't rule out it might be someone you know or maybe a friend of someone you know that's you're unknowingly giving your info to again and again? If you changed your numbers do you keep track of WHO you gave it to? Not to make you extra paranoid but 15 number changes is a bit odd. Could very much be a friend of the family or an actual family member.

 

[Kitty_Minxi]

I have only given my number to my mum and dad this time round.
So far no random messages from people I don't know (thank fuck).

They know not to give my number to ANYONE!

It's been a few days since the last message though.

 

[Smores]

I have only given my number to my mum and dad this time round.
So far no random messages from people I don't know (thank fuck).

They know not to give my number to ANYONE!

It's been a few days since the last message though.

Is your phone Android? If yes, and if he has broken into your Google account associated with that phone, then he has access to all the phone contacts. It's clear this guy has gotten access to at least one key resource, because there is no way anyone can change a phone number 15 times and have another person instantly have access to that number unless there has been a hack somewhere.

If it was me, this is one way I would go about getting back control:

1) I would get a second phone, probably a 3G phone with SMS and absolute minimum cost. It could be a prepaid phone. Use this second phone for two-factor authentication on sites, and because you never give this phone out to anyone, if you use it correctly he cannot obtain it.

2) Get a really secure laptop, maybe based on Chrome OS, and use that just to regain control of accounts.

The first thing to do on that Chromebook is change the Google password, and once it is changed immediately enable two factor authentication and then point to the new phone number for the second factor. From that point on, if you login to that Google account from any other phone or computer, it is going to send a code to your new phone, and no one but you will be able to login. Assuming he has broken into your Google account on some device he now controls, once you do the above he should get challenged for the new password and the second factor code. He might have a way to steal the password from you (if for example he has software installed on your main computer), but he won't have access to the second phone.

Repeat the above process for the other sites you are on.

In the end, I wouldn't trust the computer you just had "cleaned". You probably need the services of a security expert at this point.

The one thing you have going for you is that this guy is a really arrogant jerk. He isn't exactly disguising that he has access to your stuff when he immediately contacts you on each new phone number and threatens you. Pretty sure this guy is about 4 feet tall and lives in his mother's house.

Just some ideas for you to start your own thinking process about how to get control of your life back....

 

[Magnolia]

As someone who has gone through something similar and watched someone else go through it, this is the advice I can give you:

• Ignore him, never contact him back, not even to say "fuck you."
• Delete/deactivate all your emails, create new ones on a different computer.
• Get a new phone, not just a new number. Even a wipe on your phone is sometimes not enough. Go with a new carrier if you can, in situations like these a lot of carriers are willing to help/give discounts.
• Screenshot EVERYTHING and keep it on a separate hard-drive as well as on a cloud.
• Delete your personal social media, even if it has a fake name. If you have anything on your device tied to your real name it can and will be associated with many social media accounts. (you should delete them anyways as a cam-model imo)
• Do NOT download apps like snapchat, twitter, facebook, or instagram on your new phone.
• Use a VPN.
• Use 2-step security for every log in.
• Keep the police updated. If they can't help you then hire someone privately to look into it deeper if you can afford it.
• Are you 100% sure your harddrive was replaced? Did you do it yourself? Did you have it professionally done or did someone you know do it? If you didn't watch it get switched out by a pro then you need to do it again yourself or get a whole new computer from a trusted source to be sure.

If it continues then you need to take a good, hard look at the people close to you. Yes, even your parents because people get fucking WEIRD about sex workers... even people you trust the most. If that doesn't work then maybe you need to drop adult work for a while until you feel safe. Change your cam-name and come back in the future. Death threats from someone this persistent is NO FUCKING JOKE AND IS VERY SERIOUS.

 

[Kitty_Minxi]

@Smores and @Magnolia Thank you, both for the tips. I will see to it that I try each of your suggestions and let y'all know what happens.

Also, thank you to everyone that commented and gave your input

 

[Dan Epstein]

I agree that law enforcement should be involved here. I really hope that you don't have to resort to relocating and absorbing further inherent loses.

 

[Pure_emotion]

As someone who has gone through something similar and watched someone else go through it, this is the advice I can give you:

• Ignore him, never contact him back, not even to say "fuck you."
• Delete/deactivate all your emails, create new ones on a different computer.
• Get a new phone, not just a new number. Even a wipe on your phone is sometimes not enough. Go with a new carrier if you can, in situations like these a lot of carriers are willing to help/give discounts.
• Screenshot EVERYTHING and keep it on a separate hard-drive as well as on a cloud.
• Delete your personal social media, even if it has a fake name. If you have anything on your device tied to your real name it can and will be associated with many social media accounts. (you should delete them anyways as a cam-model imo)
• Do NOT download apps like snapchat, twitter, facebook, or instagram on your new phone.
• Use a VPN.
• Use 2-step security for every log in.
• Keep the police updated. If they can't help you then hire someone privately to look into it deeper if you can afford it.
• Are you 100% sure your harddrive was replaced? Did you do it yourself? Did you have it professionally done or did someone you know do it? If you didn't watch it get switched out by a pro then you need to do it again yourself or get a whole new computer from a trusted source to be sure.

If it continues then you need to take a good, hard look at the people close to you. Yes, even your parents because people get fucking WEIRD about sex workers... even people you trust the most. If that doesn't work then maybe you need to drop adult work for a while until you feel safe. Change your cam-name and come back in the future. Death threats from someone this persistent is NO FUCKING JOKE AND IS VERY SERIOUS.

All these worked for me when I had that creepy stalker who was threatening me. So , do what Magnolia said. Thank God in time these weirdos get bored trying and find another victim.

 

[Emberblaze]

Change phone companies. When I was young I worked in call centers for several large telecom companies and I could easily look up any information I wanted without ever being questioned for it even as the lowest level of employee. He may work for your phone carrier or know someone that does.

 

[Teagan]

Change phone companies. When I was young I worked in call centers for several large telecom companies and I could easily look up any information I wanted without ever being questioned for it even as the lowest level of employee. He may work for your phone carrier or know someone that does.

I was thinking this too. He may well work for one of the companies. Not just phone but maybe even government ones. Or one of the websites too. I'd be shutting down accounts for sure.

 

[Emberblaze]

I was thinking this too. He may well work for one of the companies. Not just phone but maybe even government ones. Or one of the websites too. I'd be shutting down accounts for sure.

Frankly he could even work for a company that sells all different types of phones for different carriers like best buy.

AT&T used to allow people to sign up for prepaid service online or via a phone prompt in which case you could put any name you want in without proof of name. This may be an option if he manages to get your number again.

 

[OldHippy]

Contact the relevant law enforcement, what he is doing is illegal in most western countries. A lot of places have specific cyber stalking legislation in place. At the very least insist that the police officially record all your complaints, provide them with copies of all the relevant communications.

Listen to @Magnolia and below are a couple of links that might be useful if you are in the USA

http://www.crashoverridenetwork.com/resources.html
http://www.withoutmyconsent.org/resources/download-guide

Good luck and don't let this bicycle seat sniffer get to you.

 

[Deleted member 37064]

I don't have much more to add to what has already been said. Sucks to hear there's people out there like this. So sorry you have to go through it.

The one thing I would add is that I would recommend a password save/vault which can generate very strong passwords. My favorite is Passwd Safe. I can use it on multiple platforms (Linux, Android, Windows), and store a copy of the database in the cloud for use across multiple devices.

I would wait until you have it on a known, clean and secure, system before setting it up and using it. This way, if he happens to have cracked your computer/phone, he can't gain access to all your accounts and passwords via a keylogger. Add in two-factor authentication, and you're much better off.

@Magnolia 's comment about using a VPN is very sound advice. I use one on all my personal compute devices (laptop, tablet, cell phone), especially whenever I connect to a network which is not my own. Also, shutdown bluetooth and WiFi whenever you don't use them.

Wish we didn't have to go through all this stuff, and more so that there weren't people like this out there. But, sadly, it's become the world we live in, and we need to protect ourselves.

 

[writing4life]

Speaking as a member who went through a little blackmail of his own thanks to a rather nasty model (Thanks btw to those of you who offered advice, the issue appears to be resolved) all I can say is that I'm truly sorry that someone is doing this to you.

I completely agree with the "change all your passwords" advice, and would recommend lastpass (which I use) which seems to be really good. Also, check your email addresses at https://haveibeenpwned.com/ This site was set up by Troy Hunt, who is a very respected internet security expert. It will check any email address you have to see if they have been comprimised.

As for the other advice, it certainly sounds like there may be a bit of social engineering going on. Make sure all your utility companies (phone & internet/email) especially know that you are being stalked electronically. Demand that they highlight this on your accounts and add additional security so that you have to jump through a few extra hoops to gain access to any information., Things like Twitter etc, set up Two-Factor authentication so that people can't just gain access via email addresses etc.

If there's any other advice or guidance you need, please feel free to message me and I'll do all I can to assist. I'm not security expert, but I'm familiar enough with having to protect myself.

Oh, and the thing you can do right now? That you're probably doing even though you don't like to admit it. Don't blame yourself. you did nothing wrong. There are decent people out there, and sadly there are people like this who take pleasure in causing others pain.

Good luck, and take care.

L

 

[Kitty_Minxi]

Thank you so much to everyone! Your well wishes, kind words, and pieces of advice are a massive help!

 

[DJ_Pioneer]

Since he threatens you online it is an Internet-related crime so you can file a IC3 complaint. Fill out the form with as much details as possible and hopefully it should be enough to get the FBI involved. https://www.ic3.gov/complaint/default.aspx/

 

[Ambers Troll]

This one seems very troll based, if you ever get the chance to ID them it would stop; until then it sounds like you are doing all you can. Don't let them throw you off doing your thing or slow you down more than security requires.

 

[Smores]

If it was me, this is one way I would go about getting back control:

1) I would get a second phone, probably a 3G phone with SMS and absolute minimum cost. It could be a prepaid phone. Use this second phone for two-factor authentication on sites, and because you never give this phone out to anyone, if you use it correctly he cannot obtain it.

2) Get a really secure laptop, maybe based on Chrome OS, and use that just to regain control of accounts.
....

Just to follow up on my post, the Vimeo video in this article shows how hackers who know your phone number can exploit a bug in the telephone company's switching hardware to intercept your SMS messages. That means that they can grab your second factor codes to break into your accounts.

To make that attack work, they must know your phone number. That was the basis for my suggestion that she should obtain a second phone and NEVER connect that phone number to any address book with her name. It becomes a private device used only for security. The hacker cannot access the second factors on that device because he has no way to learn the phone number.

To extend this further, an even safer way to do two-factor authentication is to use an authenticator app. That sets up a secure connection from the vendor's servers to your specific device, and it is nearly impossible to intercept. If you wanted to be cheap, just buy a used obsolete smartphone and turn on its wifi and never activate it as a cell phone. Now you can use that device as a dedicated authentication device using authentication apps when those are available. For sites that only offer two-factor authentication on an SMS texting network, use a prepaid 3G phone, which you can buy for about $100/year.

 

[Kitty_Minxi]

Ok! Update!

The police are finally helping me, as I have enough evidence to prove my case.

They caught the guy.

Due to him being only 17 they smacked him with community service.

There is a restraining order on him.

I just want to say a huge thank you to everyone who gave me suggestions on what to do and how to deal with everything!
It was a great help xo