Lovense Patent Dispute

[Lovense Co Founder]

Hello all!

I am the inventor of the infamous "tip-based vibrations" patent (you're welcome and i'm sorry) and I have some news. Given the endless conversations about this feature on this forum, I felt it was appropriate to share here.

I've said what I can say, so far, here:

x.com

x.com

This is an ongoing legal issue, so I really can't say everything I want. I can answer select questions and will update regarding this dispute when possible.


Fun Fact -

ACF played an integral part during my research. My decision to launch Lush and the tip based vibrations idea was born out of me scouring this forum and a couple others.

I truly tried my best to understand your needs and help cam models make more money compared to the alternatives (like OhMiBod).

I hope I've helped YOU earn more!

 

[Vixxen81]

Yeah...if there's one thing I'd want you to take back in your career, it would be this. Makes it damn near impossible to earn money without it.

Also, do you have another source for whatever is on X? I dropped it the day Elon bought it. Thanks.

 

[Lovense Co Founder]

Yeah...if there's one thing I'd want you to take back in your career, it would be this. Makes it damn near impossible to earn money without it.

Also, do you have another source for whatever is on X? I dropped it the day Elon bought it. Thanks.

1. Sorry, was trying to help the industry =/

2. Unfortunately, there are so many attached pieces of evidence it's hard to put it here or somewhere else. But basically I claim I was wronged- never properly compensated for any of my inventions or contributions.

I recently realized my patent rights (among other rights) and raised this dispute with Lovense and my co-founder. They responded by denying all claims and contacting 2 websites to remove "co-founder" attributions to my name. The articles are 7 years old... one example is -



The whole reason I started the twitter thread is because they have now gotten 3 pieces of evidence changed, all of which supported my "co-founder" claims. The thread is a bit of a desperate move and I hope it gets some attention.

I joined before they even hit $150k in sales and had two crappy products (original max and nora). I designed and launched Lush, Hush, Edge, Ambi, Osci and Domi.

They've made about $800,000,000 in sales, mainly due to my contributions and how my patent protects the company from competitors (while also giving free marketing for the company on camsites)... I am hoping my legal battle provides me justice and I can fully tell my story. It's been a long, depressing 7 years of not knowing how to deal with this.

 

[Vixxen81]

Honestly, the idea is great. It really, really is. Ultimately the problem I have with the Lovense stuff are the designs. But that's not what this about, now is it?

That is awful they are trying to take away your part of all of this. I hope you get what you deserve. If there's some way we can support you, let us know?

 

[KingMarti]

The whole reason I started the twitter thread is because they have now gotten 3 pieces of evidence changed, all of which supported my "co-founder" claims.

If you know the sites that had the information, the wayback machine is your friend, most if not everything should be indexed on there and they wont be able to change that.

 

[cbhours]

mainly due to my contributions and how my patent protects the company from competitors

For sure, without those patents lovense would have been crushed by now.

 

[ElGato]

For anyone that wants a deeper-dive, I've attached the full original patent PDF. "The ornamental design for a sexual stimulation device, as shown and described."

Eddy, I'm wishing you the best of luck! I would love to see you...
Get control of your patent
license it to every manufacturer out there.
Open source the software... (plugins, OBS, etc)

 

[AudriTwo]

good luck! oh for the love of god please open source the software.
the lovense app sucks. it would be better if i could directly connect it to the site with my pc's Bluetooth instead having to use that god awful app. no offense if you built that as well. anytime i have to reconnect the stupid app with my phone, which is frequent, my room would empty cause people assume I'm browsing with it.

 

[Vixxen81]

good luck! oh for the love of god please open source the software.
the lovense app sucks. it would be better if i could directly connect it to the site with my pc's Bluetooth instead having to use that god awful app. no offense if you built that as well. anytime i have to reconnect the stupid app with my phone, which is frequent, my room would empty cause people assume I'm browsing with it.

You can. With Chrome and a plug in. That's how I broadcast. I use OBS. It has a Lovense plugin as well.

Lovense® Cam Extension: Streamline Your Live Performances

Lovense's Cam Extension offers unparalleled control for cam models. Enhance your live streaming with this essential tool

www.lovense.com

I refuse to use the app because it wants access to my contacts and photos/videos. Eh..eff no.

 

[Lovense Co Founder]

If you know the sites that had the information, the wayback machine is your friend, most if not everything should be indexed on there and they wont be able to change that.

Thank you for being helpful! Luckily I did save everything and I can use the WayBackMachine.

I am worried about what they are doing internally and hope this thread helps with that.

Also generally frustrated because my Chinese lawyer does not really seem to care about this key evidence being changed. Says Chinese courts won't care about this aspect.

Overall, just really doesn't feel right to have them get the articles changed. It would be nice to have some proof/links that I founded a unicorn (can help me professionally)- instead, I have the company trying to erase me from history and doesn't even want to recognize my contributions.

Not the first time they removed my name from websites either (my record breaking indiegogos, which I did with just one co-worker, show very little sign of me).

For anyone that wants a deeper-dive, I've attached the full original patent PDF. "The ornamental design for a sexual stimulation device, as shown and described."

Eddy, I'm wishing you the best of luck! I would love to see you...
Get control of your patent
license it to every manufacturer out there.
Open source the software... (plugins, OBS, etc)

good luck! oh for the love of god please open source the software.
the lovense app sucks. it would be better if i could directly connect it to the site with my pc's Bluetooth instead having to use that god awful app. no offense if you built that as well. anytime i have to reconnect the stupid app with my phone, which is frequent, my room would empty cause people assume I'm browsing with it.

Thank you both (and everyone else) for the well wishes.

I will definitely do some interesting things if/when I get my patent rights back.

When creating the brand vision I vowed to never to just copy other company's designs and "add bluetooth"... and let's just say, I really don't like what I see has happened to the brand.

FYI, the patent you attached is for the Lush design (I have 6 US patents and 1 EU patent)... this is the key patent, for anyone interested:

US9762515B1 - Interactive online entertainment system and method - Google Patents

Disclosed is a system and method for allowing one or more users to interact with models from a distance, for example, by enabling the users to tip the models during online video chat sessions, wherein the models can define tipping parameters to perform predefined acts, via an adult toy, based on...

patents.google.com

Fun Fact -

EU has different laws during patent assignments (they needed my signature after terminating me). So, the EU patent rights for the tipping feature still belongs to Dan and I, personally. No company, not even LOVENSE, has the legal right to exploit my patent in that jurisdiction.

 

[Vixxen81]

Thank you for being helpful! Luckily I did save everything and I can use the WayBackMachine.

I am worried about what they are doing internally and hope this thread helps with that.

Also generally frustrated because my Chinese lawyer does not really seem to care about this key evidence being changed. Says Chinese courts won't care about this aspect.

Overall, just really doesn't feel right to have them get the articles changed. It would be nice to have some proof/links that I founded a unicorn (can help me professionally)- instead, I have the company trying to erase me from history and doesn't even want to recognize my contributions.

Not the first time they removed my name from websites either (my record breaking indiegogos, which I did with just one co-worker, show very little sign of me).





Thank you both (and everyone else) for the well wishes.

I will definitely do some interesting things if/when I get my patent rights back.

When creating the brand vision I vowed to never to just copy other company's designs and "add bluetooth"... and let's just say, I really don't like what I see has happened to the brand.

FYI, the patent you attached is for the Lush design (I have 6 US patents and 1 EU patent)... this is the key patent, for anyone interested:

US9762515B1 - Interactive online entertainment system and method - Google Patents

Disclosed is a system and method for allowing one or more users to interact with models from a distance, for example, by enabling the users to tip the models during online video chat sessions, wherein the models can define tipping parameters to perform predefined acts, via an adult toy, based on...

patents.google.com

Fun Fact -

EU has different laws during patent assignments (they needed my signature after terminating me). So, the EU patent rights for the tipping feature still belongs to Dan and I, personally. No company, not even LOVENSE, has the legal right to exploit my patent in that jurisdiction.

Do you have a US patent lawyer?

 

[Lovense Co Founder]

Do you have a US patent lawyer?

No. Hoping my X thread takes off a bit and attracts a few interested lawyers. Kind of a long shot, but I don't have anything to lose.

the lovense app sucks. it would be better if i could directly connect it to the site with my pc's Bluetooth instead having to use that god awful app. no offense if you built that as well. anytime i have to reconnect the stupid app with my phone, which is frequent, my room would empty cause people assume I'm browsing with it.

I was doing user interface/experience.

Current CEO and other co-founder was/is the tech lead. I really wonder how hard is he working on his apps. I won't comment any further since this is an ongoing legal dispute =)

Actually, I've already probably said way too much... may have to stop commenting. I need a lawyer to tell me what to do lol. For sure, I will always update as I can.

 

[cbhours]

Current CEO and other co-founder was/is the tech lead. I really wonder how hard is he working on his apps

If bluetooth headphones worked with the same reliability as lovense products all phones would still have headphone jacks.

 

[LaceyRoyce]

You have your DMs set to premium only on Twitter, and no clear way to contact you. I may have a legal connect for you.

 

[LaceyRoyce]

(Adding - just in the interest of not wasting your time, my connect does not have any international jurisdiction and does not do litigation, so if you are looking for a US litigator just disregard this)