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I can only imagine what it is to be on the model's side of the cam. That is imperfect at best, but it is what we do, and the best we can do, if we care to understand this drama of which we (non model members) play a part.

I have come here from an e-mail I am composing, because I thought what it was that I felt my friend should know, might also make sense for other models to know. It is, in fact, what all of us know, but don't often talk about. It is not a taboo subject, or one that is too uncomfortable to be discussed much. It is simply a matter of fact that there are no correct, or easy answers for.

My reason for placing a bowl of shit in front of you and saying, "look, it is a bowl of shit that we have all seen before, see how it steams?", is because it is some times these things, these common steaming bowls of shit, that can cause us the most grief. And it is nice sometimes if others speak up and say, "yea I smell it too, but what are you going to do?".

From my wonderful E-mail.

BTW, I am not asking you to comment, that would not be right, but I have found myself too exposed to 'needy members name'. I befriended him at his request, and later found that he wanted answers from me that I could not give. Or at least answeres that I did not give feeling they would draw me in too much. Draw me in to a place where my answers would fall short, or be untrue. I guess I mention this because, I, just last night, saw that he was asking you for the same answers. I understand that this may be the most difficult part of being a cam model. Having to deal with the extenuating personality disorders that we bring to the table/room. It is also these deviations from the understood functions of a cam model, that pose the toughest questions, that fourm the most complex situations a model is faced with. The answers are varied, and the suluations are never absolute, and at best are often less than adequate. I guess what I am getting at is, that, if you wonder why you can not find the right thing to say at times, it is not your failing, it is that there is no right thing to say.

So yea, I smell it too, but what are you going to do?
 
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AshaSnow said:
Uh....I have no idea what you just said.
Phew! I was concerned that it was just me so I read it six times just in case I was missing a really important sentence. I don't think I was though.
 
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I think....I think he may be saying that some premiums are overly curious rude guys who don't have a clue about respecting a model's privacy? Or something....I mean, it's nothing we don't all know....did OP just want to sound like a smart philosophical dude while trying to say such a simple thing that we already know for absolutely no other reason than trying to wave in front of us "hey I'm smart philosophical dude, look how I talk in a way that practically has no meaning!"
 
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I think he's saying that there are a lot of really mentally messed up premiums that models have to deal with?
 
I think he is saying that a premium wants to know alot more about her that she feels comfortable telling her. This is a common thing when they want to know where we work outside MFC where we live,where we shop and shit. I think he wants us to maybe help her out with this problem I dunno. If I am right what I would do is tell her to ban him he does not need to know everything about us. We are cammodels we are also people we work on cam cause of the economy and many more reasons. But we are there to give you a good time not offer a dating or escort service.
 
Wow I was a bit fucked up but not so much as it seems I was. I guess. I still don't find it so hard to understand, but vague it is. It seemed so poignant, and full of meaning at the time, but I had the advantage of knowing the shit that I left out for every one else.

Simply, I had come from a room where there had been a member who had said he was not happy, when the room was asked, "is everyone happy?" I had opened myself to be friendly with this same member. It had become a tussle working with the choice of spending lots of time stroking him, or not so much and trying to not reject the guy outright. I watched the model struggle with the same for many painful minutes. It made no sense to try to say, "hey it is OK, you did the best you could" at the time. So later when e-mailing her I thought it did make sense at that point to let her know, shit happens. I guess that was the thing I was referring to when I said, it is what we all know. That shit happens - more precisely, that there are members who will come undone awkwardly, and bring a room down with them. I didn't think it was a thing that needed any discussion, but it might have been nice if I had made it clear what we were not discussing. The whole point of the post was to say, "hey we/I know it is hard being a cam model, and it gets real hard when you have to deal with this sort of steaming bowl of shit, but what are you going to do. And mostly that you can't fix some things, so you have to be OK with doing the best you can.

And, yes I will accept that the paragraph cut from the e-mail, I did think was worded nicely. I did not until now realize it carried little meaning taken out of place. As I said it had great meaning to me at the time. And I knew exactly what I meant. Perhaps drinking and posting are better not mixed.
 
Camstory, seriously stop the long winded bullshit posts and just say whatever you have to.

and KarmelKiss yes he did altho I think he was talking about his ego, its meaning gets lost in his bullshit.
 
KarmelKiss said:
Did you just say you were jerking off a guy in free chat and that he didn't like your technique?

I sure look forward to bawksy weighing in on this thread... :-D
 
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Wow again, guess the general consenes is that I am brain dead. Can't even blame the last on booz. Don't know how I could have explained the first post with any less words or BS? I really don't? I'm going to bed now, and maybe this will look different when I come back to it. Can't think it will enough to make me feel OK with posting again soon, though.

if nothing else you might apprishate the irony of this. The post that best defines my orignal post is
I think he's saying that there are a lot of really mentally messed up premiums that models have to deal with?
I had thought to just run that after being so clumsy with the OP, but that would have done little to explain what every one was confused about.
 
camstory you meant well. People should remember that. You were trying to be supportive to the models here, so thank you!


But there is a skill to being concise and you don't have it. It can be learned! When you learn to write university essays and such things it should be taught so you may want to check out some resources like that.

Because I love editing and because I am on vacation here is how I would edit what you wrote, to be more understandable and concise. My point in posting it is that I really hope that you will be able to see WHY what I wrote is easier to understand. The skills you need can be learned and if you do learn them you'll find its easier to communicate with people :)


Wow I was a bit fucked up but not so much as it seems I was. I guess. Ooops, I was drunk when I posted but it looks worse than it is!

I still don't find it so hard to understand, but vague it is. It seemed so poignant, and full of meaning at the time, but I had the advantage of knowing the shit that I left out for every one else.
I am not sure why everyone is as confused as they are, but I agree I was a bit vague. I had context and you guys didn't

Simply, I had come from a room where there had been a member who had said he was not happy, when the room was asked, "is everyone happy?"I was in a models room where there was a member who was difficult to deal withI had opened myself to be friendly with this same member.

It had become a tussle working with the choice of spending lots of time stroking him, or not so much and trying to not reject the guy outright. He was annoying me too!

I watched the model struggle with the same for many painful minutes. It made no sense to try to say, "hey it is OK, you did the best you could" at the time. This whole part is redundant to the actual point. We get that you were struggling, the model was struggling. And it doesnt really matter why you didn't approach her at the time

So later when e-mailing her I thought it did make sense at that point to let her know, shit happens. I guess that was the thing I was referring to when I said, it is what we all know. That shit happens - more precisely, that there are members who will come undone awkwardly, and bring a room down with them.I emailed her later to be supportive.

I didn't think it was a thing that needed any discussion, but it might have been nice if I had made it clear what we were not discussing.Sorry I wasn't as clear as I needed to be!

The whole point of the post was to say, "hey we/I know it is hard being a cam model, and it gets real hard when you have to deal with this sort of steaming bowl of shit, but what are you going to do. And mostly that you can't fix some things, so you have to be OK with doing the best you can.

THIS IS THE MOST CONCISE THING YOU SAID YET! You could have simply posted this with no problem.


And, yes I will accept that the paragraph cut from the e-mail, I did think was worded nicely. Wait, you accept that you thought you worded your email nicely? That makes no sense. I think what you're trying to say is:

Though at the time I thought my email was the work of genius, I realize now that I didn't provide any context. Next time I won't post while I am drinking!

I did not until now realize it carried little meaning taken out of place. As I said it had great meaning to me at the time. And I knew exactly what I meant. Perhaps drinking and posting are better not mixed.
 
Yep, what Miss Lollipop posted.

Sometimes meandering, painfully drawn out posts can serve a purpose for comedic effect or to make light of something. However clear and concise is the way to go in the vast majority of situations.
 
camstory said:
Can't think it will enough to make me feel OK with posting again soon, though.
I think it's so lame when people run crying after someone pokes fun, corrects, calls out a post they made. Post whenever, however you want. Roll with the punches if someone replies to it with something that isn't totally supportive. Either learn from it, try to see where they were coming from, or ignore it and move on. Enough of this "wahhh mommy someone didn't like my post I'm not gonna post anymore!"

That goes as a general rule of thumb for everyone who posts on any forum btw. Not just camstory or the other members here who've said such things (or even thought them). Holy apeballs! It's the Internet!

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Jessi said:
has anyone ever been so far as decided to want to do look more like

Yeah this.. WHAT? :lol: :lol:

Cam .. buddy, pal.. I will offer 2 things here..
1 .. write everything as if you were talking to grade school kids. KIS. Keep It simple.
2. I have a gas mask, a big shit shovel and some air freshener.
A bowl of steamer is no big deal to clean up. :mrgreen:


:eek:rcs-cheers:
 
:woops:

Members are from all over the world, obviously there are going to be negative unsatisfied fucktards, and people categorized as special needs or unstable. There are also people who will give you constructive criticism. This happens in every job where you work with the public and deal with people on a regular basis.

If someone starts coming to you with their personal problems, give them some basic advice and affection, and move on. They're looking for attention, so give them your attention but don't waste your time if they're not compensating for it. You're not a therapist and you're not responsible for this person's well being. End of story.
 
what is going on in this thread

besides stroking off other dudes

Cam, I think you should join the Boce club and breathalyzer before posting. We're just not ready for your infinite wasted wisdom.
 

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BCamden said:
sxycherrypie said:
they want to know where we work outside MFC where we live,where we shop and shit.
Apparently he wants to know where you shit so he can put it in a bowl and comment on the steam.
all the guys want to know where the bbs shop and shit (esp if they do both in the same place!) :drool:
 
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I think it's so lame when people run crying after someone pokes fun, corrects, calls out a post they made. Post whenever, however you want. Roll with the punches if someone replies to it with something that isn't totally supportive. Either learn from it, try to see where they were coming from, or ignore it and move on. Enough of this "wahhh mommy someone didn't like my post I'm not gonna post anymore!"

That goes as a general rule of thumb for everyone who posts on any forum btw. Not just camstory or the other members here who've said such things (or even thought them). Holy apeballs! It's the Internet!

OK, I realize this argument may be the debate equivalent of an infinity mirror, but did you just complain about someone else complaining about complaints made against their post? seems like a wise woman once said about such conduct "Either learn from it, try to see where they were coming from, or ignore it and move on".

Yeah, I know, I'm bitching too, but I admit, I'm a vindictive SOB. :handgestures-salute:

PS..Camstory, give me a hint about what you were consuming while writing. Was it green leafy, liquid, or powdered?
 
Oy vey said:
AmberCutie said:
I think it's so lame when people run crying after someone pokes fun, corrects, calls out a post they made. Post whenever, however you want. Roll with the punches if someone replies to it with something that isn't totally supportive. Either learn from it, try to see where they were coming from, or ignore it and move on. Enough of this "wahhh mommy someone didn't like my post I'm not gonna post anymore!"

That goes as a general rule of thumb for everyone who posts on any forum btw. Not just camstory or the other members here who've said such things (or even thought them). Holy apeballs! It's the Internet!

OK, I realize this argument may be the debate equivalent of an infinity mirror, but did you just complain about someone else complaining about complaints made against their post? seems like a wise woman once said about such conduct "Either learn from it, try to see where they were coming from, or ignore it and move on".

Yeah, I know, I'm bitching too, but I admit, I'm a vindictive SOB. :handgestures-salute:

PS..Camstory, give me a hint about what you were consuming while writing. Was it green leafy, liquid, or powdered?
Lol, there have been quite a few cries of "I'm not going to post in such and such anymore because so and so might reply and insult my post." And that is lame. I think you may have missed the point I was commenting on. It was my way of saying "buck up, dude, don't quit posting just because someone didn't love what you had to say."
 
i know what you mean camstory. i speak Drunk Alien. thanks for posting it.. although i do agree that some serious proofreading would have avoided.... well... this. although it is amusing ... gotta admit !!

sometimes a dude can take too much effort to sustain. as your fan/viewer, you want to give them attention and make them happy. but sometimes they bring their steamy shit-plate to yo, via 'im gonna kill myself,' 'im gonna talk to you in PM for paragraphs about my cat and dog and endless emotes,' 'im gonna require you to butter me up every five minutes or get all pouty.' and so forth.

sometimes dudes with issues make our job difficult.

that was your point? i think?

:toothy2:
i think some people need to get told by us that they are being dorks so they can change for the better and become better at building relationships, 'cause if they do it to us as camgirls, they probably do it to other girls too.
 
missmeowmixx said:
i know what you mean camstory. i speak Drunk Alien. thanks for posting it.. although i do agree that some serious proofreading would have avoided.... well... this. although it is amusing ... gotta admit !!

sometimes a dude can take too much effort to sustain. as your fan/viewer, you want to give them attention and make them happy. but sometimes they bring their steamy shit-plate to yo, via 'im gonna kill myself,' 'im gonna talk to you in PM for paragraphs about my cat and dog and endless emotes,' 'im gonna require you to butter me up every five minutes or get all pouty.' and so forth.

sometimes dudes with issues make our job difficult.

that was your point? i think?

:toothy2:
i think some people need to get told by us that they are being dorks so they can change for the better and become better at building relationships, 'cause if they do it to us as camgirls, they probably do it to other girls too.
Thank you so much. You absolutely must talk Drunk Alien, BC that was exactly what I meant. I had not viewed this thread for a week, (it got too depressing) I got on tonight, and seeing you were the last post decided to go directly there - last post. (I am a missmeowmixx fan). I am glad I did. For the 8-10 post I have not looked at yet, they will have to wait, but this has made my new year a little better, TY. :-D
 
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