Long or Short Vids?

[CallMeMaria]

Hey,

a question for both models and users;

Do you prefer long (15min and more) or short (around 5-10min) videos? Or maybe even shorter?

Personally, I prefer making shorter, 5-10min clips, they can be reasonably priced too so mostly they sell reasonably well also.

 

[LaceyRoyce]

Hey,

a question for both models and users;

Do you prefer long (15min and more) or short (around 5-10min) videos? Or maybe even shorter?

Personally, I prefer making shorter, 5-10min clips, they can be reasonably priced too so mostly they sell reasonably well also.

It depends on the clip and the category. Years ago I would have said 7-10 mins but now my longer clips are my real money makers. 15-30 mins is my sweet spot for $$$$ but I still like to sprinkle in some shorter ones as entry points. The longer ones are usually bigger productions with more plot, or lots of dirty talk, hypno files etc.

 

[Sashacurves]

I prefer making shorter clips because it’s less editing and angles and upload time! Recently I’ve gone more into roleplay stories though so my vids have gotten longer. My best sellers tend to be 15mins+ plus. Even though they take more effort to make, the higher selling price makes them better value for money to sell

 

[NotYou]

I think this really depends on the fetish or type of video. I think some can work very well as 5 or 10 minutes but then I think some need to be longer.
For me, so long as they are not less than 1 minute and are videos that are expected to be bought so the guy can "finish" with them, then that's fine. Under 60 seconds is really too short, unless it's as a sample video (either for a longer video or to show you do this in a private, for example, to encourage you to be taken for a pvt).

Some types of videos don't need to be longer than 5 minutes when they are very fetish specific but then I think some do need to be so you can "get into it".

I think a variation of some shorter and some longer would be the best thing to do


For a simple example, I think a 10 minute video of just boob play is definitely enough - 30 minutes of this would be too much for one video. And I say this is a boob fan/fetishist. This is one example but i am sure there are plenty like it. Plus, i think if you do a long 30 minute video for something like that, then you kind of do everything there really is possible to do, instead of being able to do different things in different videos.

 

[LaceyRoyce]

I think this really depends on the fetish or type of video. I think some can work very well as 5 or 10 minutes but then I think some need to be longer.
For me, so long as they are not less than 1 minute and are videos that are expected to be bought so the guy can "finish" with them, then that's fine. Under 60 seconds is really too short, unless it's as a sample video (either for a longer video or to show you do this in a private, for example, to encourage you to be taken for a pvt).

Some types of videos don't need to be longer than 5 minutes when they are very fetish specific but then I think some do need to be so you can "get into it".

I think a variation of some shorter and some longer would be the best thing to do


For a simple example, I think a 10 minute video of just boob play is definitely enough - 30 minutes of this would be too much for one video. And I say this is a boob fan/fetishist. This is one example but i am sure there are plenty like it. Plus, i think if you do a long 30 minute video for something like that, then you kind of do everything there really is possible to do, instead of being able to do different things in different videos.

Lol i know a guy who buys hours of boob play customs. Literally HOURS. And he wants 4k...

(But yes i agree it just made me think of him)

 

[MarieElise]

Same. I agree. But I know of some guys who are more “outliers” to use a nerdy statistic term, and will literally get hours of the same thing w ass. I suspect viagra or possibly adderall abuse, in some of these cases; where one guy repeatedly gets hours, of the same simple actions. But I’m not a man. I don’t know.

I like the male body, but I can’t imagine watching it for an hour at a time. Unless a chemical were involved. Then, yes, I would totally be buying hour long shows w people I found personally attractive. Or possibly several hours per night.

To answer original ?. I tend to make shorter clips due to untreated adhd. But that’s purely about my personal enjoyment. However when I do do longer 15 - 20 min ones, for different niche fetishes, they sell better.

 

[CallMeMaria]

Thank you all for replying, very helpful insights! A follow up question if i may, with regards to pricing.

I am mostly pricing my videos at $1 per minute-ish, give or take a bit, depending on the content and length too - am I completely off the industry standard?

 

[MarieElise]

I’ve always done one per minute for 8 years. But inflation… So recently I changed to $2, plus 3 or $4 on top. Sales have been unpredictable. Too soon to say whether the whole market will take that. The fetishes I’m popular in, that goes down fine. But it’s only been a month of me pricing every category that way, so I’m unsure. Numbers, as far as earnings are not less, but not more either. I was hoping earnings would soar, and maybe I’m too impatient, but so far no. Last few weeks of Jan are always slower for me though, every year. So yeah I could just be being too impatient.

If I’m still pricing that way in 2 months and don’t revert back to $1 per minute then … it worked out.

 

[LaceyRoyce]

Thank you all for replying, very helpful insights! A follow up question if i may, with regards to pricing.

I am mostly pricing my videos at $1 per minute-ish, give or take a bit, depending on the content and length too - am I completely off the industry standard?

$1 a minute is a good starting point. Don't be afraid to experiment a bit, but that's still about avg i think

 

[RuthStrawberryblonde]

I find file sizes are too big with longer videos, my phone will only record 5 minutes, actual camera much longer but some sites won't take the file size.

Am I missing something?

 

[CallMeMaria]

I find file sizes are too big with longer videos, my phone will only record 5 minutes, actual camera much longer but some sites won't take the file size.

Am I missing something?

I run the videos through an encoder ( I use a programme called handbrake, it seems to do it ok and its free) and the file size and type gets smaller so the longer videos are quicker and easier to upload.

Someone more tech savy may know of a better way to do this, as its painfully slow to encode especially the longer the videos like this...

 

[LaceyRoyce]

I find file sizes are too big with longer videos, my phone will only record 5 minutes, actual camera much longer but some sites won't take the file size.

Am I missing something?

What settings are you shooting with?

Handbrake is a great free option as suggested. Or if you edit with premiere or similar you can control the size when you edit. Most sites have a 5gb max

 

[Vixxen81]

I think this really depends on the fetish or type of video. I think some can work very well as 5 or 10 minutes but then I think some need to be longer.
For me, so long as they are not less than 1 minute and are videos that are expected to be bought so the guy can "finish" with them, then that's fine. Under 60 seconds is really too short, unless it's as a sample video (either for a longer video or to show you do this in a private, for example, to encourage you to be taken for a pvt).

Some types of videos don't need to be longer than 5 minutes when they are very fetish specific but then I think some do need to be so you can "get into it".

I think a variation of some shorter and some longer would be the best thing to do


For a simple example, I think a 10 minute video of just boob play is definitely enough - 30 minutes of this would be too much for one video. And I say this is a boob fan/fetishist. This is one example but i am sure there are plenty like it. Plus, i think if you do a long 30 minute video for something like that, then you kind of do everything there really is possible to do, instead of being able to do different things in different videos.

Then maybe guys should stop making jokes about finishing in 30 seconds.

 

[RuthStrawberryblonde]

What settings are you shooting with?

Handbrake is a great free option as suggested. Or if you edit with premiere or similar you can control the size when you edit. Most sites have a 5gb max

Will Wondershare do this, I have bought this but never used it I edit out bits on my actual camera then upload the file directly. I tend not to make any further changes, what sort of editing do others do?

 

[KingMarti]

I find file sizes are too big with longer videos, my phone will only record 5 minutes, actual camera much longer but some sites won't take the file size.

Am I missing something?

You can get other camera apps for your (I use filmic pro) and at the 5 minute mark it will just move onto another file, so if you do a 20 min video then you end up with 4 clips that make up the entire video.

If you need to convert the videos into different formats for sites like c4s where you can upload multiple formats of the same video. I built a video converter that will take the video and re-encode it into a bunch of different formats also does the video compression that's available in MO.

 

[maskedsissyslutforyou]

I run the videos through an encoder ( I use a programme called handbrake, it seems to do it ok and its free) and the file size and type gets smaller so the longer videos are quicker and easier to upload.

Someone more tech savy may know of a better way to do this, as its painfully slow to encode especially the longer the videos like this...

There should be an option on the video tab to use an Intel(QSV)/Nvidia(nvenc) video card to encode (if you have one) the video. Selecting either of those options should make the re-encode much faster and have minimal effect on the quality.

 

[Schnauzevoll]

hmmm i usually go with 5-10 minutes for my content As well as things to look at (yes, using and also tipping fellow camgirls to get into the mood before going live) but yes, 1-2€ or $ / min is kind of a good price, i know a lot of models who go with higher prices but for me the sales drop a lot if i go higher. still trial and error i guess?

 

[JessaBella]

5-10 mins, sometimes less...

 

[Dan N]

There's value in both. Teasers are short and have their own type of consumers yet longer videos engage with other category of viewers / consumers.
Short videos , fast masturbation and good to go, longer videos sets the environment, the mood, just like a date, no rush... kind of "next level interaction" .
So I've heard
My suggestion, do both... but work smart, do longer videos and after edit do a few trims (short footage, short sequences) to make shorter version. 1 video multiple products kind of thing.

 

[CallMeMaria]

There's value in both. Teasers are short and have their own type of consumers yet longer videos engage with other category of viewers / consumers.
Short videos , fast masturbation and good to go, longer videos sets the environment, the mood, just like a date, no rush... kind of "next level interaction" .
So I've heard
My suggestion, do both... but work smart, do longer videos and after edit do a few trims (short footage, short sequences) to make shorter version. 1 video multiple products kind of thing.

Hmm, now theres an idea. I am thinking "a date with Maria" - a video filmed over a dinner table, POV... I wonder if I could keep up a romantic, flirty, chat along typeroleplay going for like an hour... It could even end up in the bedroom after dinner. Food for thought! And whether anyone would buy that. Who knows!? Might have to try it. GFE experience.....

And then as you suggest- just cut out some bits for shorter clips.

 

[LaceyRoyce]

Hmm, now theres an idea. I am thinking "a date with Maria" - a video filmed over a dinner table, POV... I wonder if I could keep up a romantic, flirty, chat along typeroleplay going for like an hour... It could even end up in the bedroom after dinner. Food for thought! And whether anyone would buy that. Who knows!? Might have to try it. GFE experience.....

And then as you suggest- just cut out some bits for shorter clips.

Remember that for an hour long video it will be very very difficult to get it to fit in the 5GB that most sites require.
I have a couple hour long vids and a 2 hour one and it was hellllllll

 

[Nigerian Prince]

Remember that for an hour long video it will be very very difficult to get it to fit in the 5GB that most sites require.
I have a couple hour long vids and a 2 hour one and it was hellllllll

It really just depends on how you export the video. If it's just 1080p you can export with a bitrate around 6000kb/s for a total size of under 3GB for a hour and it will still look really sharp. Or at least that's what I've found exporting at various bitrates.