Keeping your ID private - Beginner questions

[Peachygracie]

Hey guys !
Ok so I'v searched for this matter throughout the forum, and read several threads, but I'd rather ask your opinion directly here...
I'm a "hopeful camgirl" (totally stealing suicidegirl phrasing here) who's been camming VERY sporadically over the last few years just for the thrill of it (I didn't even realize you could "easily" get paid for it; without going through a professional agency, that is) but I've never shown my face.
I am now considering starting an account on Chaturbate, and it appears that if I actually want to get followers, I will need to show my face at some point. I don't really mind showing my body and anything (I actually thought of camming as a way to express my sexuality more than earn money ) but if my parents or family would come to find out about this it would SUCK BIG TIME (and there is no font big enough to express how much I MEAN IT)
My friends would probably be shook smuggrin but that I could deal with. But family, .
Do you have any advice to keep your privacy to its maximum ? I've blocked users from my own country (I'm European) and am considering using a PVT.
I wanted to use Snapchat & Twitter though (through a dedicated account, of course ), is it really risky that they suggest the account I created to my friends & family though?
Please share any experience & advice you could have for me, thanks a lot in advance

 

[Deleted member 37064]

There's been a number of threads on the privacy issue, all which pretty much cover what's already been said and will be said.

The biggest things to be aware of is that by putting your face on cam, you must be willing to accept what may happen if you're found out. If not, then stop now.

As for twitter, snapchat, whatsapp, etc. anything that can be associated to a phone, use a completely separate phone and phone number. This way, it keeps everything separated from your personal stuff since these apps now like to access your contacts list, and advertise "who you may know" to your and your friends. Also, some of these apps (at least Snapchat), have tracking capabilities built into them. So, make sure that you look into ho to disable those features.

There's many more. But, those are the two biggest things. Most of the models I have come to know are becoming more open about the camming they do to their family. This way, it's out in the open already, and there's no surprise/shock/mortification when/if they get found out. According to one of them, it also helped when one of them had a computer hacked and then was threatened with blackmail of releasing pictures to family and friends.

 

[Summer Raynes]

I get where you're coming from. If my friends and family found out that I am an adult industry worker... They'd probably pass out then shun and disown me when they came to. On thanksgiving my mom was talking about a lady who pole dances online for a side job and said [JOKINGLY] "hey, you should do that for extra cash!!". I sat there in my head and was like "ohhhh if you only knew Mom, if you only knew." Afterwards they proceeded to talk about how could she show her body of money and talked about how degrading it is (cue my eye roll). My friends are also have the same sentiments about the adult work industry. Its cool. I don't mind. A lot of people aren't going to see it the way I do. I honestly love what I do, how it makes me feel, and that for once in my fucking life I wasn't rejected from some form of employment.

So... I don't use my phone number, my accounts are completely separate. My life is my life vs. my camming life.

 

[Lelo1]

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Like said, every thing cam related should be separate: email, pobox, phone, computer account, passwords, extra.

 

[AudriTwo]

currently dealing with being shunned and my partner blamed for my choices. it's no fun.

all it took was a clipped stream floating on facebook. i am not on facebook.

 

[DollyD]

I took the advice a few people have given here and keep separate accounts for everything. I was fortunate enough to have an old tablet that still works and I do a lot of my social media from there so there is no chance of me accidentally posting to the wrong account or something silly. I mostly make videos and picture sets though so I'm just extra careful to remove all personal and location info from my files before upload. I also keep my location tracking off on my "work tablet" to prevent anything getting out that way.
Fortunately for me I come from a family of housekeepers, drug dealers, and sex workers. My info getting out isn't really too big a deal as far as family finding out. Safety first though.

 

[Peachygracie]

Thanks for all the answers guys !
Agreed though, even though my concerns are not so much for my safety, beyond the "you have to be ready for it to be out there at some point or you can just drop it off now" isn't really fair when it comes to actual safety matters, people finding out where you live, blackmailing (to tell the family or employer or who knows who) or this kind of shit...
So sorry to hear that AudriTwo, hope it gets better for you !

 

[AudriTwo]

"you have to be ready for it to be out there at some point or you can just drop it off now" isn't really fair when it comes to actual safety matter

no that is the reality of it. i know it isn't fair, but if you want to cam, you have to determine that factor. i had people i know unintentionally outing me to the public because they don't understand the severity. and because no one privates their shit, it makes it even easier for a stalker to find your identity. when you do sex stuff on the internet, sometimes it doesn't attract the best of people. as in people who want to harm you because of it.

i had someone message me my RL nickname because he read it on facebook. like i said im not on facebook. i haven't had one in 2 years. i have zero private social media other than my steam account. there is really nothing you can do to protect yourself from getting spread out there. you can try to remove it, but look up the streisand effect. it's a real thing.

you may go viral. a clip of me went viral from a live show. MILLIONS have seen it. you can't control that shit. any safety measures you take for not getting outed and doxed go out the door. i removed myself completely. i limited the amount of content i produced, and it still happened.

im not trying to be a fearmonger. just being a realist.

 

[MarinaThyme]

Thanks for all the answers guys !
Agreed though, even though my concerns are not so much for my safety, beyond the "you have to be ready for it to be out there at some point or you can just drop it off now" isn't really fair when it comes to actual safety matters, people finding out where you live, blackmailing (to tell the family or employer or who knows who) or this kind of shit...

You're exactly right that it isn't fair, but I can't really sugarcoat this for you: Life isn't fair.

I don't mean to sound harsh, but becoming a full-time webcam model is not a decision to make lightly and it most definitely is not for everyone. You need to decide if this is truly what you want to do and if you are ready to deal with any consequences and backlash you may face in your real life. If you're not ready for everybody you know (or anybody who knows of you or will know of you) to know what you're doing, stop now while you still can.

I thought this was something I could just dip my toes into and stop if I didn't like it or decided it wasn't for me. I found out very quickly how unrealistic that mentality was when I read some horror stories about doxxing and models being "outed" on forums like this one.
I quit for a few weeks, Google searched my camming name and found a handful of pages of my re-uploaded photos, recordings of my shows and some of my personal informtation had been "leaked" (unintentionally by me and is now corrected) but I was shocked. I did a total of maybe six shows and my persona was already on other websites than the one I used to cam.

It scared me at first, but I realized I personally don't have anything to worry about as far as judgement by my loved ones goes. I am related to some pretty shady characters irl that have done far worse in their REAL lives than my paid webcam strip teases on the internet under a fake name with an elaborate disguise.

By nature, I've always been a risk-taker in life and have done some pretty crazy shit in the past so I really do not think my camming would shock my family at all. I'm prepared for whatever reaction this job might bring me. I don't feel like I personally need to hide who I truly am from the people who truly love, support and care about me. This makes me happy and it's what I want to do and I enjoy my job. There may be some who can't understand it, but the ball will be in their court as to accept it or not. I don't care much either way what they decide to do because it's not going to stop me from living my life how I've chosen to live it.

The internet is permanent.
You are on here forever.

If you're not prepared for the weight of that fact crashing down on you, then do not become a webcam model -- even for fun.

Lastly...
Not to spook you, but there have been stories of girls being outed/doxxed even without showing their face or even with some clever disguise on cam. It still happens. Your privacy is never truly safe online. That's just how our digital-obsessed world is now.

Just saying, you really need to be certain you're ready for people to find out. Thinking there's some way you'll be immune to that happening is not very realistic here... maybe there's a very lucky few who have cammed successfully for years whose family has no idea, but I am yet to encounter one.

 

[SaffronBurke]

Not to spook you, but there have been stories of girls being outed/doxxed even without showing their face or even with some clever disguise on cam.

So far, the one person who recognized me on cam from knowing me IRL (we worked together at a temp job five years prior and couldn't remember each other's names), identified me by my ASS. No disguise is fool-proof. It could just as easily have been someone I currently work with, who DOES know my name.

 

[MarinaThyme]

So far, the one person who recognized me on cam from knowing me IRL (we worked together at a temp job five years prior and couldn't remember each other's names), identified me by my ASS. No disguise is fool-proof. It could just as easily have been someone I currently work with, who DOES know my name.

I'm sorry for laughing but that "identified me by my ASS" just killed me!

 

[Peachygracie]

Thanks for your honesty, and sorry for those of you who had bad experiments!
I can't believe most of you are so chill about it though, I've got lil brothers old enough to browse the web and would be horrified if they stumbled upon vids of me haha ! Same with a dude showing up at my doorstep because he hacked my info or whatever. I've always been too optimistic though and assumed that kind of thing didn't happen on a regular basis !
Anyway, do any of you actually have OK experiences when it comes to staying discreet ? And have tips ? Looking through the threads I found quite a lot of stuff, regarding the amazon whishlist for example or the use of social media...
(and yeah, the ass identification is pretty impressive! someone wasn't fully focused on his job )

 

[Deleted member 37064]

Thanks for your honesty, and sorry for those of you who had bad experiments!
I can't believe most of you are so chill about it though, I've got lil brothers old enough to browse the web and would be horrified if they stumbled upon vids of me haha ! Same with a dude showing up at my doorstep because he hacked my info or whatever. I've always been too optimistic though and assumed that kind of thing didn't happen on a regular basis !
Anyway, do any of you actually have OK experiences when it comes to staying discreet ? And have tips ? Looking through the threads I found quite a lot of stuff, regarding the amazon whishlist for example or the use of social media...
(and yeah, the ass identification is pretty impressive! someone wasn't fully focused on his job )

Not to scare you by any means. But, one of my good friends has an alter-ego online which I knew her by long before we accidentally ran into one another in person. Not everyone is a bad apple. Some do care about others, and will do everything they can to protect and respect the privacy of those they come to know.