Isn't coffee bad for children this age?

[Kunra9]

I would never say something to this girl because it's not my business. Maybe it's a decaf or something I dunno.

But I thought coffee is supposed to be bad for kids?

 

[Shaun__]

I do not drink coffee now, but I drank it all the time as a child. I do not see how it is any different than letting him have a coke.

 

[helloimc]

I was allowed a tiny cup of espresso at about 4 y/o every other day :coffee:

 

[ScarletVixen]

My dad had a morning ritual of sitting at our families round wooden table and slowly drinking a cup of coffee. My dad was my hero, so I started sitting with him and drinking coffee as soon as I possibly could just to 'share' and spend time with him in the morning. I remember being around 5 years old and drinking a cup with him every day. I'm pretty sure I was required to be very quiet to not disturb him, and I put waaaaaayyyyy too much sugar and milk into my cup. But I did that with him most mornings until I was around 10 years old. I still LOVE coffee, but I prefer it with chocolate syrup and iced now. Still waaaayyyy too sweet. :lol:

 

[Jupiter551]

I would never say something to this girl because it's not my business. Maybe it's a decaf or something I dunno.

But I thought coffee is supposed to be bad for kids?

yeah, kids drinking coffee leads them to "spl lyk dis wn dey gt aldr"

 

[Zoomer]

All depends upon the amount of caffeine. Basically, the kid has an espresso stashed in that drink. I'd think that's a bit on the high side of caffeine dose for a small kid but there appears to be no guidelines in existence and unless she's spoiling him a few times a day I doubt it's going to cause any issues.

 

[SoTxBob]

forget the kid and what he's drinkin'.. who's the lil babe ? Shes got a great smile! :mrgreen:

 

[JickyJuly]

The frap is SUBSTANTIALLY worse than drinking a Coke. You could drink 3x as much of the pop for the same amount of calories. Getting your kid hopped up on a 500 calorie coffee drink is not the same as letting him have a few swigs of coffee. A kid that age probably needs 1000-1500 calories and there he is drinking 1/3 of that. I realize it's taboo to say aloud that some parents are acting idiotically, but she IS acting idiotically.

 

[RoxieRed]

I had a friend who took her kid to Starbucks a few times... He wanted a coffee too, so she had them add a bit of the flavored syrups to his milk so he got to drink "coffee" just like mom. It had no caffeine and nowhere near the amount of calories here. I thought that was a good fun solution. Maybe this mother should try the same.

 

[Shaun__]

The frap is SUBSTANTIALLY worse than drinking a Coke. You could drink 3x as much of the pop for the same amount of calories. Getting your kid hopped up on a 500 calorie coffee drink is not the same as letting him have a few swigs of coffee. A kid that age probably needs 1000-1500 calories and there he is drinking 1/3 of that. I realize it's taboo to say aloud that some parents are acting idiotically, but she IS acting idiotically.

Okay then it is no worse than a small milkshake at a lot of places. My parents let me have milkshakes growing up and I do not think it detrimentally impacted my health.

 

[AnaVictoriaXO]

Regardless of you blocking her name out, its pretty rude to post a picture of someone AND their child on a site based around sex, without their permission.

 

[Shutterbuck]

Coffee is a gateway drug. It took me many years to admit it but eventually we must all face our demons.
I started drinking coffee at a very early age in order to appear older and "more mature". I wanted to be a grown up...
Now I sit in front of my computer in my free time and drink coffee while fapping furiously to hot broads on the internet. All because of coffee.

I regret nothing.

 

[Jupiter551]

The frap is SUBSTANTIALLY worse than drinking a Coke. You could drink 3x as much of the pop for the same amount of calories. Getting your kid hopped up on a 500 calorie coffee drink is not the same as letting him have a few swigs of coffee. A kid that age probably needs 1000-1500 calories and there he is drinking 1/3 of that. I realize it's taboo to say aloud that some parents are acting idiotically, but she IS acting idiotically.

Okay then it is no worse than a small milkshake at a lot of places. My parents let me have milkshakes growing up and I do not think it detrimentally impacted my health.

same calories as a LARGE mcdonalds thickshake, then w/ caffiene, it's hard to argue that it's a good idea for a little kid.

btw that kid looks like 2 or 3, you don't buy a 3 year old a large shake.

 

[Shaun__]

The frap is SUBSTANTIALLY worse than drinking a Coke. You could drink 3x as much of the pop for the same amount of calories. Getting your kid hopped up on a 500 calorie coffee drink is not the same as letting him have a few swigs of coffee. A kid that age probably needs 1000-1500 calories and there he is drinking 1/3 of that. I realize it's taboo to say aloud that some parents are acting idiotically, but she IS acting idiotically.

Okay then it is no worse than a small milkshake at a lot of places. My parents let me have milkshakes growing up and I do not think it detrimentally impacted my health.

same calories as a LARGE mcdonalds thickshake, then w/ caffiene, it's hard to argue that it's a good idea for a little kid.

btw that kid looks like 2 or 3, you don't buy a 3 year old a large shake.

Try a small. McDonalds lists their nutrition information.

 

[Kunra9]

Regardless of you blocking her name out, its pretty rude to post a picture of someone AND their child on a site based around sex, without their permission.

Yeah I thought the same thing

 

[JickyJuly]

The frap is SUBSTANTIALLY worse than drinking a Coke. You could drink 3x as much of the pop for the same amount of calories. Getting your kid hopped up on a 500 calorie coffee drink is not the same as letting him have a few swigs of coffee. A kid that age probably needs 1000-1500 calories and there he is drinking 1/3 of that. I realize it's taboo to say aloud that some parents are acting idiotically, but she IS acting idiotically.

Okay then it is no worse than a small milkshake at a lot of places. My parents let me have milkshakes growing up and I do not think it detrimentally impacted my health.

same calories as a LARGE mcdonalds thickshake, then w/ caffiene, it's hard to argue that it's a good idea for a little kid.

btw that kid looks like 2 or 3, you don't buy a 3 year old a large shake.

Try a small. McDonalds lists their nutrition information.

32 oz shake :shock:

 

[Kunra9]

I hate you guys btw. All I can think about this morning is where is the nearest McDonalds so I can grab a shake on the way to work.

THANKS!

 

[Shaun__]

32 oz shake :shock:

The triple thick shakes were replaced my the McCafe shakes a couple years ago I think. So now you have to buy two medium shakes if you have an adult sized need for a bloated about to throw up feeling.

 

[Kunra9]

32 oz shake :shock:

The triple thick shakes were replaced my the McCafe shakes a couple years ago I think. So now you have to buy two medium shakes if you have an adult sized need for a bloated about to throw up feeling.

Who DOESN'T have that need on a daily basis??

AMIRITE?!

 

[JoleneBrody]

IMO if you give your 3 year old a milkshake that big you're a fucking moron. Dump in an espresso and I'm not surprised she types the way she does.

I have no shame in saying that is food irresponsibility at it's fucking peak! I'm actually disgusted by this.

My favorite coffee chain has what they call a "not so hot" just for the kids who want to have a coffee with mom, it's the smallest sized cup with hot cocoa. Even coffee chains know giving espresso to small children is horrible!

I'm going to go face palm with my wall now.

 

[mynameisbob84]

I don't know what's worse; the coffee, the fact she may or may not have been driving when she took that photo (probably isn't but given everything else going on in that photo, you have to wonder...) or that she used the term "lol jk" in a seemingly non-ironic capacity :?

 

[Jupiter551]

My favorite coffee chain has what they call a "not so hot" just for the kids who want to have a coffee with mom, it's the smallest sized cup with hot cocoa. Even coffee chains know giving espresso to small children is horrible!

Yeah they have babycinos for kids here, basically a small hot chocolate that looks like a cappucino. Your favourite coffee chain is of course, Freedom Coffee, right?

Try a small. McDonalds lists their nutrition information.

IDK I got my info from the mcdonalds site, it directed me to the Australian one because google spies on us and shit http://mcdonalds.com.au/our-food/menu/#/drinks/vanilla-shake so I dunno what your shakes are like there but a large shake here is pretty goddamn large, way too large for a small child.
Btw the thought that any drink can have, like on your chart, 1100 calories is just DISGUSTING. That's like half an adult's recommended daily energy intake.

 

[lordmagellan]

I realize it's taboo to say aloud that some parents are acting idiotically, but she IS acting idiotically.

Not to try an derail the thread, but I think this may be a part of the problems we, as a society, are facing today. I get that people should be able to raise their kids how they see fit, with regards to religion, morals, artistic tastes (or lack thereof), but when the parents are obviously fucking children themselves, and are doing something that can have a harmful or at least detrimental impact on the child's health, I think someone should say something.

"Hey dumbfuck! That much caffeine could throw your little shit's heart into overdrive cause her to drop DEAD!"

"Hey stupid shit! All those calories your kid is going to sit with in front of the television and not burn off while you run your fucking trap on the phone or play on facebook is going to make it look like a linebacker at five, and probably contribute to a whole host of problems later in life. Congrats on making life harder for your kid."

Sure it sounds exaggerated and harsh, but kids don't seem to respond to data and reasoning anymore.


Also, I just woke up and I'm a lil grouchy. My coffee hasn't kicked in, yet.

 

[LadyLuna]

Shaun... I'm fairly sure that while we were that little, the McDonald's shakes did not have as much caffeine as they do now. But I doubt we can find the nutrition facts from the 80's or early 90's to verify this. She seems like the type of mom to give her kid caffeine then get him diagnosed with ADHD. *shudder*

Yes, large amounts of caffeine are bad for kids. Here's one site that explains what it does.

In both kids and adults, too much caffeine can cause:

jitteriness and nervousness
upset stomach
headaches
difficulty concentrating
difficulty sleeping
increased heart rate
increased blood pressure

Especially in young kids, it doesn't take a lot of caffeine to produce these effects.

Other reasons to limit kids' caffeine consumption include:

Kids who consume one or more 12-ounce (355-milliliter) sweetened soft drink per day are 60% more likely to be obese.

Not only do caffeinated beverages contain empty calories (calories that don't provide any nutrients), but kids who fill up on them don't get the vitamins and minerals they need from healthy sources, putting them at risk for nutritional deficiencies. In particular, kids who drink too much soda (which usually starts between the third and eighth grades) may miss getting the calcium they need from milk to build strong bones and teeth.

Drinking too many sweetened caffeinated drinks could lead to dental cavities (or caries) from the high sugar content and the erosion of tooth enamel from acidity. Not convinced that sodas can wreak that much havoc on kids' teeth? Consider this: One 12-ounce (355-milliliter) nondiet, carbonated soft drink contains the equivalent of 10 teaspoons of sugar (49 milliliters) and 150 calories.

Caffeine is a diuretic that causes the body to eliminate water (through urinating), which may contribute to dehydration. Whether the amount of caffeine in beverages is enough to actually cause dehydration is not clear, however. It may depend on whether the person drinking the beverage is used to caffeine and how much caffeine was consumed that day. To be on the safe side, it's wise to avoid excessive caffeine consumption in hot weather, when kids need to replace water lost through perspiration.

Abruptly stopping caffeine may cause withdrawal symptoms (headaches, muscle aches, temporary depression, and irritability), especially for those who are used to consuming a lot.

Caffeine can aggravate heart problems or nervous disorders, and some kids may not be aware that they're at risk.

When I was a kid, I didn't like the taste of just about anything with caffeine in it unless it had a ton of sugar to balance it out. So I didn't drink a lot of soda, and when I did, it was root beer, orange soda, or Sprite. Coffee and tea were out, except herbal teas that don't have caffeine. Occasionally, I'd get a milkshake (kid's size), or a chocolate bar, but not very often.

Now, I drink a lot of soda and tea. And I'm getting fatter

 

[lordmagellan]

When I was a kid, I didn't like the taste of just about anything with caffeine in it unless it had a ton of sugar to balance it out. So I didn't drink a lot of soda, and when I did, it was root beer, orange soda, or Sprite. Coffee and tea were out, except herbal teas that don't have caffeine. Occasionally, I'd get a milkshake (kid's size), or a chocolate bar, but not very often.

Now, I drink a lot of soda and tea. And I'm getting fatter

Uh, if you're orange soda is Sunkist, you may be; along with getting cancer. I think it was Diet Sunkist that I read was the worst soda you can drink due to all the bullshit they put in it. Of course the "diet" drinks aren't really any better for the body, anyway.

 

[LadyLuna]

When I was a kid, I didn't like the taste of just about anything with caffeine in it unless it had a ton of sugar to balance it out. So I didn't drink a lot of soda, and when I did, it was root beer, orange soda, or Sprite. Coffee and tea were out, except herbal teas that don't have caffeine. Occasionally, I'd get a milkshake (kid's size), or a chocolate bar, but not very often.

Now, I drink a lot of soda and tea. And I'm getting fatter

Uh, if you're orange soda is Sunkist, you may be; along with getting cancer. I think it was Diet Sunkist that I read was the worst soda you can drink due to all the bullshit they put in it. Of course the "diet" drinks aren't really any better for the body, anyway.

My orange soda was when I was a kid. I think it was Sunkist back then, but never diet. It's the diet sweeteners that they think might cause cancer. Now, my soda is Coke, Pepsi, Mt Dew, and Root Beer.

I never drink or eat "diet" anything. Shit's nasty and not really better for you in any way. They have to put nutrition information on the labels, but they don't have to put poison information on there... and most diet stuff uses poisons. They just haven't identified them as poisons yet.

 

[Jupiter551]

Shaun... I'm fairly sure that while we were that little, the McDonald's shakes did not have as much caffeine as they do now.

Well McDonalds shakes don't have caffiene but that kid isn't drinking a mcdonalds shake, it's drinking a white chocolate mocha frappacino which is basically a cup of coffee that has turned very flamboyantly gay.

 

[Shaun__]

My favorite coffee chain has what they call a "not so hot" just for the kids who want to have a coffee with mom, it's the smallest sized cup with hot cocoa. Even coffee chains know giving espresso to small children is horrible!

Yeah they have babycinos for kids here, basically a small hot chocolate that looks like a cappucino. Your favourite coffee chain is of course, Freedom Coffee, right?

Try a small. McDonalds lists their nutrition information.

IDK I got my info from the mcdonalds site, it directed me to the Australian one because google spies on us and shit http://mcdonalds.com.au/our-food/menu/#/drinks/vanilla-shake so I dunno what your shakes are like there but a large shake here is pretty goddamn large, way too large for a small child.
Btw the thought that any drink can have, like on your chart, 1100 calories is just DISGUSTING. That's like half an adult's recommended daily energy intake.

Other countries do not get the same serving sizes we get in America. The secret of staying slender is not eating everything they give you in one sitting, unless you skipped a meal.

 

[Rose]

Considering I'm pregnant AND licensed to care for small children in a legal capacity, this is making me feel all sorts of judgey and ragey. Normally I turn a blind eye to what other parents do with their children, but in this case it's just making my inner judging gossip fiend claw it's way out.

I do not consume soda, caffeine, caffeinated drinks or drinks high in sugar. I pretty much only drink water. My standard day consists of 6 18oz cups of water and 1 12oz cup of orange juice. That's it. Occasionally I'll drink a small sprite, under 12oz, but that's about maybe once a month or if I need to film a burping clip (when we go out to dinner I'm that stick in the mud who ONLY orders water to drink). Because of my drinking habits, I feel perfectly within my rights to point a finger at this mother and say that behavior is deplorable and will contribute to further weight/health issues for her kid. :naughty:

As a nanny, my kiddos were allowed to pick from a few drinking choices: water, milk, juice or they could have an 8oz cup of chocolate milk. If they chose the chocolate milk option then they had to follow it up with a matching size cup of water AND we'd have to go in the yard for active playtime. As a soon-to-be mother I plan on offering the same choices to my spawn, but with soy milk instead of chocolate milk. My parents did the same for me and I was very healthy growing up (weight wise, my health problems were not preventable by eating and drinking well) and I feel because of that, my spawn should get the same options. Unlike his father, he's not going to be allowed to sit on his ass and play video games while he drinks nothing but mountain dew.

As a parent, it's expected of us to be good role models in terms of a healthy life style. That means not sitting on my ass all day and eating crap. It means when I tell my kiddo it needs to drink water instead of soda and it needs to go for a run, that I damned well better be doing it too. It's strictly on us if our kids are over weight and/or unhealthy because we allow them bad life style habits and up until adolescence, all of that stuff can be prevented and controlled by us to an extent. Seeing that mother give her VERY SMALL child a highly caffeinated and sugary drink is just making my skin crawl. It's also triggering my hyperemisis and making me want to pop her on the back of the head for being a moron. Kids aren't supposed to have caffeine in moderate-large amounts because it could give them a heart attack or any other host of issues. :naughty:

That's my rant on that. Feel free to blame it on my hormones because they are absolutely flying today! I'm going to go drink a cup of water now and eat a bowl of plain chex with regular milk. :snooty:

 

[Shaun__]

I believe bad stuff in moderation is good for kids, it keeps junk from becoming the forbidden treasure in their heads. If you keep them too safe they will not know how to deal with things once they are on their own at school or a friends house. I am not a parent and am unlikely to ever become one, so please view this as my personal beliefs and not in any way as advice to people with kids.