is MFC a "real job"?

[bodisha]

i'm curious how you girls see your occupation on MFC... I think it's safe to say working on MFC could be considered unconventional... but i've seen models get offended if a member doesn't refer to MFC as a "real job"

my question is how do models see their work on MFC? Do you see it as a job? a paying hobby? Also... How do you see yourself within the porn/sex industries? depending on the model... there seems to be different comfort levels as how they see themselves... with some embracing the term "cam whore"... while others find the term extremely objectionable and get offended... How do you describe what you do on MFC to someone unfamiliar with a cam model and how it fits in the porn/sex industry?

 

[LaceyRoyce]

I see it as my career.

I embrace the term. A whore is a smart slut. I don't take it as derogatory but I see how some would.

If i'm explaining to someone unfamiliar with the industry, I describe myself as interactive porn.

 

[SatanJonez]

I see it as my career.

I embrace the term. A whore is a smart slut. I don't take it as derogatory but I see how some would.

If i'm explaining to someone unfamiliar with the industry, I describe myself as interactive porn.

This is my view on it as well. Also, I would like to add, any job that you pay taxes on is a "real job".

 

[reggieholtz]

Obviously, I'm not a model but this is sort of on topic, :mrgreen: however, I have seen other posts where a model says she works a day job (like at a department store) and I have to say that knowing the person working in front of me at the store (i.e. cashier) could be showing her naked bits online is a turnon and I fully support that. :-D

 

[AmberCutie]

I see it as my career.

I embrace the term. A whore is a smart slut. I don't take it as derogatory but I see how some would.

If i'm explaining to someone unfamiliar with the industry, I describe myself as interactive porn.

This is my view on it as well. Also, I would like to add, any job that you pay taxes on is a "real job".

I agree on both of these. For me and many it's a real job in the adult entertainment field. It's not all sunshine and roses all the time, there is more thought that goes into our shows and interactions than just "hmm what panties will I wear today?" There's behind the scenes work we do to be better at our job that many people don't take into account, and yes it can upset us when it's just assumed that this is all just "easy money" and that anyone with a pair of tits can be successful at it.

For some girls it may be a "paying hobby" if they don't put much effort into it and just go into a cam session as a "hang out and if tokens come then that's great!" sort of thing. They may have other paying jobs and do this in their spare time. But lots of us do take it seriously and try to be the best and most successful cam whores we can be 99% of the time. As far as that term goes... it's up to the individual cam girl if they want to take offense to it. In the literal sense of the term, whore makes sense, albeit we are only "digital" whores. An accurate and less offensive term would be "entertainer", I suppose.

 

[ScarletVixen]

I like the "Entertainer" name myself...I spend time naked, yes, but most of the time I'm hanging out, being myself, a normal woman, and trying to make it fun and entertaining. For me it's like 80% General/Flirty entertainer, and 20% Adult entertainer.

 

[Rose]

This most definitely is a "real" job! I do this full time and it's the only way I can work to support myself. If I hadn't have been shown camming I would probably be in the hospital right now because I wouldn't have been able to afford my meds or to feed myself. As for what I call myself, I usually say I'm a model, fetish model or an amateur pornstar depending on who I'm talking to. Any job that you pay taxes on is a real job.

 

[HollieCakes]

It's a real job, more flexible than almost any other job in that we do it as much or as little as we want, but still a job. Making real money, paying taxes, supporting ourselves..
If I tell people I go with "cam girl" then have to explain that it means I means webcam stripping. I really don't care for the term whore (not that it offends me either though, just wouldn't use it myself) but I do see how it fits and most of us girls are doing more than just stripping. It's impossible for other people do understand though, as Scarlet said, it's only really 20% or so sex. There is so much more to it. So I just don't bother at all and don't tell anyone. :lol:

 

[PlayboyMegan]

It is a job. But an unconventional one. I do consider it being in the adult entertainment industry. Although it falls under porn, I don't consider myself a pornstar at all.
It all depends to how camwhore/camslut is used. It can be used negatively, or it can be just a word to describe my job.

 

[lexxilayne]

I agree with the other models who have posted here already. And in case members do not realize it, models should claim every cent they make on their taxes. It isn't a job where we get paid under the table... it is an income. Therefore it can be a real job for many, or a part time job for others. Either way... it's a business and we are the brand. We market ourselves to a customer base and we work strictly for commission (or gifts...). :thumbleft:

 

[bodisha]

It's a real job, more flexible than almost any other job in that we do it as much or as little as we want, but still a job. Making real money, paying taxes, supporting ourselves

Being a corporate zombie/slave for the last 20 yrs that's had to show up to a brick & mortar business with an established set of hours, reporting to a supervisor with a defined job duty i was obligated to perform... I do find it difficult to wrap my mind around MFC being a "real job" (yes...lol.. you hear a certain degree of jealousy there)... i think its the freedom in what you women do on MFC, and how you do it... as well as the flexibility, the number of the hours & the fact MFC models work from home that make some member question if it's a "real job" or not... I've worked as a 1099 consultant in the past so I understand from a tax stand point that doesn't matter... but i guess part of what i was getting at is when compared to other jobs you might be working, or have worked in the past... Does MFC seem like a "real job"?

 

[AmberCutie]

... but i guess part of what i was getting at is when compared to other jobs you might be working, or have worked in the past... Does MFC seem like a "real job"?

It's more emotionally taxing on me than any previous "real job" ( :lol: see now you got me saying it, DAMMIT!) that I've ever had. There are days where I wonder if I'd be mentally happier back at one of my brick and mortar reporting to a boss and clocking in/out daily jobs. But even after you clarifying, I stand by my response of MFC being a real job. I have to work at it in order to be successful at it. While I enjoy what I do, a good % of the time I would rather be sitting on the couch watching TV or playing video games. I have to mentally "clock in" in order to make my paycheck, even though my place of work is literally down the hall and around the corner from said couch.

 

[HollieCakes]

It's a real job, more flexible than almost any other job in that we do it as much or as little as we want, but still a job. Making real money, paying taxes, supporting ourselves

Being a corporate zombie/slave for the last 20 yrs that's had to show up to a brick & mortar business with an established set of hours, reporting to a supervisor with a defined job duty i was obligated to perform... I do find it difficult to wrap my mind around MFC being a "real job" (yes...lol.. you hear a certain degree of jealousy there)... i think its the freedom in what you women do on MFC, and how you do it... as well as the flexibility, the number of the hours & the fact MFC models work from home that make some member question if it's a "real job" or not... I've worked as a 1099 consultant in the past so I understand from a tax stand point that doesn't matter... but i guess part of what i was getting at is when compared to other jobs you might be working, or have worked in the past... Does MFC seem like a "real job"?

In return for your set schedule you also have guaranteed income though :thumbleft: so it can go both ways.

As Amber mentioned, all the planning and uncertainty (and being in the house all the time doesn't help me at all either) can actually be pretty stressful too. I am at a point where I don't think I can be "just" a cam girl anymore, not that it's any less of a job than anything else. I just need more set routine in my life to function properly.

 

[bodisha]

( :lol: see now you got me saying it, DAMMIT!)

lol... sorry

 

[Jessi J]

MFC IS what I do for work. I don't have a regular, blue collar job. Before i worked on MFC I worked 120 hours a month at a shitty job and came home with only $1,300 a month. I pay all of my own bills and barely made enough to pay for everything. I had to get two credit cards ($500 limits because I have no credit history really) and load them up every month to afford food and the necessities.

I SLAVED there, I was on my feet for 8 hours a day, dealing with really nasty smelling guys that jizzed on the floors and touched themselves to the DVD covers. I dealt with people trying to return used vibrators and molded asses because they "didn't feel good enough".

I worked my ass off there for them to treat us like shit and the customers to talk down to us. So I came to MFC and have stayed here. I make way more money and am able to smile and have fun.

To be honest, I judge the models that sit there and say they "work their asses off" to make money. Yes, it is stressful at times, but you set your own hours, set your own limits, have the ability to tell people to fuck off, and ban people that are idiots. If you think THAT is stressful, then you haven't had a REAL job! I worked at AT&T, talk about stressful. Ugh. This is a cake walk.

Yes, it can be like pulling teeth and the income is never stable, there's always variants that make your income fluctuate like CRAZY and sometimes you have to kinda beg for it, BUT its not NEARLY as hard as wondering if I will be laid off at any moment.

I wouldn't say I am in necessarily the "adult industry" I think I provide people with happiness and laughter and then we get naughty . I'd like to think it is a girlfriend experience, but I am compensated for it.

 

[mynameisbob84]

MFC IS what I do for work. I don't have a regular, blue collar job. Before i worked on MFC I worked 120 hours a month at a shitty job and came home with only $1,300 a month. I pay all of my own bills and barely made enough to pay for everything. I had to get two credit cards ($500 limits because I have no credit history really) and load them up every month to afford food and the necessities.

I SLAVED there, I was on my feet for 8 hours a day, dealing with really nasty smelling guys that jizzed on the floors and touched themselves to the DVD covers. I dealt with people trying to return used vibrators and molded asses because they "didn't feel good enough".

I worked my ass off there for them to treat us like shit and the customers to talk down to us. So I came to MFC and have stayed here. I make way more money and am able to smile and have fun.

To be honest, I judge the models that sit there and say they "work their asses off" to make money. Yes, it is stressful at times, but you set your own hours, set your own limits, have the ability to tell people to fuck off, and ban people that are idiots. If you think THAT is stressful, then you haven't had a REAL job! I worked at AT&T, talk about stressful. Ugh. This is a cake walk.

Yes, it can be like pulling teeth and the income is never stable, there's always variants that make your income fluctuate like CRAZY and sometimes you have to kinda beg for it, BUT its not NEARLY as hard as wondering if I will be laid off at any moment.

I wouldn't say I am in necessarily the "adult industry" I think I provide people with happiness and laughter and then we get naughty . I'd like to think it is a girlfriend experience, but I am compensated for it.

Well said, chick. (I looked for a "high five" emote and couldn't find one but I feel this emote is a suitable substitute :gay-imgay: )

 

[LaceyRoyce]

you know i think its a different kind of work than many are used to. I'm certainly less stressed and work less hours and enjoy myself a lot more.

However, I don't think the fact that it is a GREAT job and that other jobs are harder in different ways (coal miner springs to mind!), necessarily make it not a 'real job'.
There are many unusual benefits. There are also many unusual extra stresses and problems (stalkers.. yay! The fact that my grandchildren might find me on the interwebs some day! The fact that I can't just be up front many times about what I do etc etc).

It's unique yes. It's still a real job.

 

[Sevrin]

For the models I frequent, who are all Eastern Europeans, camming is their only source of income, and they use that income to help support their families, including their parents. Damn straight it's a real job to them.

They would be offended at the term "whore", though, but that could be because, in their language, it's not used casually in combination with other words like, for instance, "attention whore". EE models are not generally comfortably familiar with English vernacular and translate most English terms literally.

 

[Rose]

This thread has reminded me what it was like trying to work fast food. Even though I was supposed to work full time I never got scheduled for it and would pull in less than $100 a week when I had been on my feet all day every day for 7 days a week. I was making less than minimum wage and couldn't afford basic food or a credit card.

 

[PlayboyMegan]

On another note, how can anyone not consider camming part of the adult industry?

 

[AmberCutie]

On another note, how can anyone not consider camming part of the adult industry?

Probably the girls who don't/rarely get naked and treat it more like a fun interaction for money and not a get naked for money job. Which I can understand. However, as much as MFC doesn't want to be categorized as a "porn site" it really is an adult entertainment site, so I'd presume that technically by utilizing it for profit, one is by association "part of the adult industry".

 

[PlayboyMegan]

On another note, how can anyone not consider camming part of the adult industry?

Probably the girls who don't/rarely get naked and treat it more like a fun interaction for money and not a get naked for money job. Which I can understand. However, as much as MFC doesn't want to be categorized as a "porn site" it really is an adult entertainment site, so I'd presume that technically by utilizing it for profit, one is by association "part of the adult industry".

Totally agree. There are pornstar scouts or directors that never get naked themselves, but they are still working in the adult industry regardless.

 

[Nordling]

All jobs are real, so "real" as a modifier is redundant.

And all a job is, is a regular activity that brings in value in the form of money, goods (in a barter system) or services.

Yes, it's a real job.

 

[Jaydenrainey]

haha once my husband slipped up and said something about it not being a real job..
i will tell you what i told him.
i get a real paycheck
i buy real things with said paychecks
and sometimes i deal with real assholes.
so its about as real as you can get id say :-D

 

[RedHerby1]

For the models I frequent, who are all Eastern Europeans, camming is their only source of income, and they use that income to help support their families, including their parents. Damn straight it's a real job to them.

They would be offended at the term "whore", though, but that could be because, in their language, it's not used casually in combination with other words like, for instance, "attention whore". EE models are not generally comfortably familiar with English vernacular and translate most English terms literally.

indeed, Tongue-in-cheek humor can really go wrong in EE rooms.

In general (always exceptions off course) EE models see it only as work, not as fun, and are more ashamed about it then the average ACF model. I'm really surprised about how much of the models here in ACF are talking about having fun and even are perving with member accounts.

It could be that, because this is the open part of ACF, here is a bit PR and CRM from the models and that in the closed part its more technical about the job and how to do it successfully.

Also possible that because of the emancipation in the West, some women want to prove that they are as disturbed in the sex area as we men. (damn, my english is more suited for 'Show boobs, Open pussy BB" then for thoughts like this, talking about this, that disclaimer from Lily90x is really annoying from someone who's english is 10 times better then mine)

Also possible that only the perverts under the models are also on ACF. I don't want to discuss my work so much in free time as some models do here.

Anyway, please go on you whores here in ACF, I like it, as you have seen in my "This forum" posting (fucking 21 thanks from 20 hot models, the ultimate wet dream of this White Knight).

 

[JoleneBrody]

A "job" doesn't have to be something that you hate and makes you miserable.
I am also in the "career" field of camming. This is my full time job and career and I work damn hard off cam to make that possible. Most "real jobs" also come with real days off, those don't come often to most full time cam girls.
The career cam girls are always doing something related to camming. Planning the next show, keeping up with regulars, photoshoots, videos, related editing, profile updates. From the moment we wake up to the moment we go to bed, most of us are working in some form or another, on cam or off.
Yes camming can be very fun but it can also be very straining. Our emotions are at stake more often than in the normal work place.
I'm on cam an average of 8 hours per cam day (roughly 30 hours per week )
I also make and edit AT LEAST one custom video per week
1-2 photoshoots per week
couple hours per day answering MFC mails and keeping up with my pals ( which I welcome and enjoy )
Mail out packages about once a week.
Design and order Swag and raffle prizes.

All the stuff I do that is not on cam is done on my "day off."

Most people with the average "real job" would sleep for a month after one week of my schedule.

Heck, gotta give it to Amber, She does all that crazy cam girl stuff AND runs and maintains the forum.

Sorry for the long winded post but this is a subject I do feel passionate about.
Behind the scenes is called that for a reason, it is not often seen, let alone understood.
I'm glad you asked this question!

 

[lustfullexi]

thats very inspirational Jolene.Definetly a real job for sure.I sure have my nights I dread it but it definetly beats flipping burgers!!!

 

[spika]

This is a really interesting question and something that I feel like I need to figure out for myself. I've honestly been treating it more like a hobby, and I probably should be treating it more like a job. One of the things that I've found hard about treating camming like a job is I'm used to making a lot more money. I'm a freelance web developer and I'm used to making somewhere in the ballpark of $85 to $100 an hour. Sometimes I feel like you ladies that have the choice between a minimum wage job and this have it a lot easier because no matter what, you're going to likely end up making more doing this.... whereas.... for me, I don't have the money as a motivator so much.

 

[LaceyRoyce]

This is a really interesting question and something that I feel like I need to figure out for myself. I've honestly been treating it more like a hobby, and I probably should be treating it more like a job. One of the things that I've found hard about treating camming like a job is I'm used to making a lot more money. I'm a freelance web developer and I'm used to making somewhere in the ballpark of $85 to $100 an hour. Sometimes I feel like you ladies that have the choice between a minimum wage job and this have it a lot easier because no matter what, you're going to likely end up making more doing this.... whereas.... for me, I don't have the money as a motivator so much.

You do realize that many models do make the kind of hourly wages you're talking about right? Or better?

$100 an hr is 2000 tokens an hr. On a good night I make that.

 

[Anonymous]

I do find it difficult to wrap my mind around MFC being a "real job"

It's most definitely a "real job." Some people wouldn't consider a fun job like camming to be a "real job" because it's fun, doesn't involve clocking in, and cam girls are the ones calling the shots (for the most part). They're not 'slaves of the workplace', which a lot of 9-5 'regular job' people seem to be.

But the truth is that I know of many cam girls who spend lots of time outside of the cam site(s) planning their cam shows, room topics, token "menus," what to add to their profiles, promoting themselves on the web, taking new photos/videos, updating content to sell, etc. Just because you only see her on cam for a few hours a night doesn't mean that her job stops there. I know of single mothers who have been able to accomplish goals (moving into a new home, etc.) due to camming. :thumbleft: