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Is it possible for an abusive relationship to become healthy with therapy?

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I'm sorry I wrote paragraphs describing my situation but as soon as I clicked post I regretted sharing so much. The question still stands...

Is it possible for an abusive relationship to become healthy with therapy?

Thank you for any replies. I know it's not a fun topic.
 
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No, also i'm sorry to say but from reading through your post signs are very bad, quite terrible actually, with violence, lack of consequences for unacceptable behaviour, lack of empathy and remorse in actions, ducking help for mental issues. Out of personal experience, most often from relationships of two broken people when either or both get better they tend to separate.
 
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First, I'm very sorry you are in the situation you are in. Those steps you are taking to get out are the right ones and you should continue adding money to your account until you can break away completely.

The harsh truth is he is not going to change. Not with therapy or anything else. Doing things like highlighting the books and showing them to you while in tears are a controlling device to give you just enough hope make you stay. Don't give in, don't let it work, and get away from him as soon as you can.

Someone who truly loves you would not hurt you or manipulate you, no matter what sort of past they come from.

Other people here that have more personal experiences with this type of situation can give much better advice than I possibly can. Good luck.
 
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I think it depends on what the source of the abuse is. If the abuser is narcissistic, no. If they're anything rooted in manipulation or lack of empathy, no. They will probably enjoy going to couples therapy and turning it against you. If the problems stem from the abuser having anger or substance abuse problems, they would benefit from therapy. I've been to anger management. It helps if the violent party wants it to. I believe in solo therapy by far over couples therapy though. Couples therapy leaves room to spread the blame, and in an abusive relationship, if the blame is being spread, the abuser is not willing to accept their own actions. They can't change without accepting full responsibility for inappropriate behavior.
 
Whether it is or isn't possible, safety should be the priority. Not the relationship. A relationship doesn't do much good if you're physically or emotionally crippled by it...or worse.

The only way to ensure safety in an abusive relationship is distance. Now, if when you're apart that person chooses to pursue therapy and do the really hard work to change their behavior...then maybe you can re-evaluate the situation.

However, I feel like being chronically abusive is a lot like being an alcoholic...you're always an abusive person, you're just not acting on it. Personally, I don't want to live in a powder keg where he could fall off the wagon any time, and if I'm dating a guy who shows signs of being chronically abusive, my gut says to LEAVE.

...but I know love is complicated, and sometimes leaving someone you love feels like being asked to cut off your own hand.
 
So. Possibly unpopular opinion with anecdotal evidence.

My poppi was abusive towards my dad and his family growing up. He was an alcoholic. When my dad was 16 my poppi knocked him out for spilling paint and my nani told him if he didn't stop drinking she would leave. He stopped drinking. He didn't hit anyone ever again. But, him and his wife don't sleep in the same bed to this day. I rarely see her show him any affection. She is polite and they don't fight, but as I've gotten older it looks more and more like roommates living together. I remember when I was a kid talking to her while I knitted and she took a bubble bath. She yelled and covered herseld when he walked in without knocking. I don't know about you, but im definitely not modest with my significant other. It was strange.

I also knew my neighbors when I was a teenager. They were in their 70s. They originally married when she was young. He was abusive and they got divorced. Twenty or so years later they met again and got remarried. No problems this time. They had both settled.

So in theory, sure. But I don't think it's the right choice. I think the best option for both is to separate. The abuser has issues they need to work through and the victim needs separation and distance in order to recover. If you're in an abusive relationship, please reach out to friends and family, find a good therapist, and leave. Go to a shelter if you have to. Somewhere between 25 and 35 percent of murders of women are done by men who used to be or are their partner.
 
I appreciate your replies more than you'll ever know.Thank you so much for the support and thoughtful points. I guess I got my answer this morning when said partner went through my internet history and decided to troll this thread. He won't tell me what he said, though it's probably something I've heard irl. Thank you so much AmberCutie for stopping the posts. Mentally I don't think I could've handled a public shaming today. I hope the OP didn't come off as me trying to publicly shame him. This is the only community I feel safe in. I'm trying therapy on my own but the first session was kinda just her venting about her own single life so I'm not putting much hope into it. You all here are the best.
 
You didn't sound at all as trying to 'publicly shame him' after all we don't even know who he is. The fact that he snuck into your internet history, takes the thread as a shaming thread when you're openly seeking help and wanting to improve the relationship and had the nerve to troll just digs the hole deeper in my opinion that he is a person unwilling to accept fault and react like this when you were simply seeking support . All the hugs to you. We're a supportive community with a lot of experience w/abusive relationships (myself included).
 
The fact that he went through your Internet history and trolled a thread where you were genuinely looking for help wasn't a public shaming for you but for himself.

Because he obviously proved himself to be scum.

If I found out my partner thought I was abusive and was asking for help about me I would be DEVASTATED that I had done so much to hurt him and would do anything in my power to fix it. Not act like an asshole and prove their point.

I hope you are safe. I hope you have resources to get away and I'm sorry you are going through this.
 
I cannot really say whether an abusive relationship can become healthy, quite possibly if that person is dealing with certain issues or even hormonal imbalances which make them act out, but I would say in that case they would be very aware of what they are doing and would feel bad about it and would actively want to change. These though would likely be cases of pretty minor abuse, such as high irritability, being argumentative, minor manipulation or control tactics, maybe minor physical stuff, like slapping (not with full force) or throwing non dangerous objects in moments of high frustration. The most important thing is whether the partner recognises there's an issue and wants to change, you cannot force anyone to change their behaviour, you can only change how you respond to it.
I could not even guess at any statistics, but I would imagine that while some abusive relationships may become healthy, it is probably highly unlikely and is essentially the exception to the rule. The general rule would probably be that no, abusive relationships do not tend to turn into healthy ones. People who treat you badly generally just don't care about you that much. They may care about having you around and feel a sense of ownership over you, but that is not the same as caring about you. As Jicky pointed out, if the person is a narcissist or has anti social personality disorder, and it is causing them to be abusive (it's common for abusive people to have personality disorders), then no they will likely never change. They could change their behaviour if they believe it is not working at getting what they want, which is why these types of abusers are so difficult to get away from. They know when to be amazingly sweet, which completely contradicts the nastiness. Inconsistent relationships are some of the most damaging, and make it far harder to demonise a person and therefore leave. The abuser knows this, and will use these tactics to keep their partner sweet. It's really hard to leave a relationship that has so much control over you, especially when there are feelings involved, but it sounds like getting away would be the best choice for you. There are so many other people in this world, ones who you would get on with great and would treat you how you deserve to be treated. Life is short, don't waste yours trying to make something work with someone who chooses to harm you.

I'm trying therapy on my own but the first session was kinda just her venting about her own single life so I'm not putting much hope into it.

Whoever your therapist is, move on. Her talking about her own life is extremely unprofessional and is a waste of your time. It's pretty much a straight up rule for therapists not to mention their personal experiences. Therapy is not supposed to be a girl chat where you each vent, you are going there for professional support. This should not be the norm, so hopefully you will be able to find a new and better therapist. You may not want to do this, but personally I would put in a complaint about her, that sort of thing is IMO serious misconduct and I would hate to see anyone else reaching out for help and then being put off by someone so unprofessional.

Please stay safe, abusive relationships are dangerous to be in or leave, but there will be support available for you which is there to protect women in this situation. I hope you manage to reach out and find a way to gain control back for your life.
 
I would think it would be very difficult for the relationship to become healthy, even after couples therapy. The level of trauma experienced in an abusive relationship will be difficult to heal from itself, and then you have to begin to learn to trust that person again. It is easy to forgive the ones you love when they hurt you, but trust? Not so mu h. Once the trust has been broken so badly, it is very hard to completely mend.

I'm truly sorry that you went through this, you don't deserve to be treated in the way that you described, and hope you can find the strength within to move on from this relationship. Also the confidence to know that you will meet someone who will genuinely love and cherish you, and never dream of hurting you in this way.

It's amazing that you have already taken the steps to see a therapist on your own. Your therapist being a good match for you is very important, therefore definitely agree that you may want to try a different therapist. Make sure they are fully qualified and experiences to help you. In my experience a fully qualified psychologist is a good choice, you can even look for one who specialises in the areas such as relationships and abuse :h:
 
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