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I never got the chance to see, but they were filming that here. I often thought of getting out of the house to try and heckle Downey Jr. but, well, I hate leaving the house. Which kind of sucks as it means I missed seeing a lot of people hanging from wires being dipped into the filthy Cape Fear river.
With Ben Kingsly playing the role, so fuck yay!Crumb said:
Was hoping the Iron Patriot was Norman Osborne, but me thinks it's just WarMachine. Still excited though.
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Shittiest thing about Sony having Spider-Man, Fox having X-Men, and Disney having the rest. No Beast or Spidey on the Avengers. At least for some years. I could take or leave Wolverine on the Avengers. Unless there's lots of Spidey/Wolverine interaction. Written by the dude who did Astonishing Spider-Man & Wolverine.
If Hawkeye was written differently in the movies I'd love to see him and spiderman side by side. their quips during battle in the new avengers comics were hilarious.
And if Disney can afford LucasArts they should buy spidey and x-men damn it.
And if Disney can afford LucasArts they should buy spidey and x-men damn it.
I saw it, I enjoyed it's more realistic tone and more of a sequel from the Avengers than from Iron Man 2.
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I liked it, even despite some obvious flaws.
*MINOR SPOILERS AHEAD*
I hate how incredibly arrogant Tony Stark is. Genius or not, you don't keep all your eggs in one basket or taunt terrorists with your address! Oh no, my house - where I keep every last suit of armor I've ever made (or at least, not utterly destroyed yet!) - just got blown to smithereens by the bad guys! Duh. Keep a few spares at the office, or in a storage unit somewhere. Given how fast he tends to wreck the damn things, he'll end up needing them all sooner or later. :lol:
*MINOR SPOILERS AHEAD*
I hate how incredibly arrogant Tony Stark is. Genius or not, you don't keep all your eggs in one basket or taunt terrorists with your address! Oh no, my house - where I keep every last suit of armor I've ever made (or at least, not utterly destroyed yet!) - just got blown to smithereens by the bad guys! Duh. Keep a few spares at the office, or in a storage unit somewhere. Given how fast he tends to wreck the damn things, he'll end up needing them all sooner or later. :lol:
Well as he says in the movie- "That's the thing about smart guys: we cover our asses!" He didn't give them his address not expecting them to show up at the front door and prepared accordingly. I guess the closest or best analogy I can think of at the time is Jack Sparrow in the pirate movies- with his antics and how he acts it always seems like he doesn't have a plan when in actuality they're 5 steps ahead of everyone else.
The only flaw, to me, was that it was a bit predictable; or at least I saw where they were going at the first hint of things, so every little twist lacked the "SURPRISE." But I may be just be basing it off of every movie that's been filmed.
However, it was so well written and acted, I didn't care! I think everyone delivered, except maybe Paltrow, but she didn't have a ton of work so I can forgive her.
And much as "super-fans" hate may hate it- Sir Ben fucking Kingsley. He was just brilliant.
However, it was so well written and acted, I didn't care! I think everyone delivered, except maybe Paltrow, but she didn't have a ton of work so I can forgive her.
And much as "super-fans" hate may hate it- Sir Ben fucking Kingsley. He was just brilliant.
I loved Kingsley, I wish Don Cheadle had more of a role. It felt like the kid in Tennessee played a bigger part in the film.
Based off every film i've seen it's very difficult to pull a twist that will surprise me, so instead I will judge them by the equality and effort that they put forth. It's like a horror movie, I don't judge them by how scared I get. does that make sense?
Based off every film i've seen it's very difficult to pull a twist that will surprise me, so instead I will judge them by the equality and effort that they put forth. It's like a horror movie, I don't judge them by how scared I get. does that make sense?
The kid in Tennessee was awesome though.SweepTheLeg said:
I'm not sure if I'm the only one that watches Happy Endings on here so much, but Gary, the guy with the news van, was played by the actor who plays Max on that show and even though it was a tiny part I enjoyed it.
It makes perfect sense.SweepTheLeg said:
And while I agree about Cheadle, I think he may have stolen the thunder if he was in too much. That may explain his limited presence. I like how it was broken down to be more about Stark than Iron Man, though.
One of the best parts of my experience: This older couple- late forties, early fifties came in and sat a couple seats away from me. When the credits roll, I hear the lady look over and say, "Stan Lee was the pageant judge. He's in all the movies." This couple wasn't there with anyone else, just a middle aged couple out watching an awesome comic book based movie. It just went against everything you'd expect at a comic movie and I fucking loved it.
Liked it a great deal. Well crafted, superbly acted, shit flying all over the place. Loved Ben Kingsley, and it was good to see Rebecca Hall again. Downey Jr. was terrific, and I kind of enjoyed how it was more about just him this time. I don't come to these movies with the expertise of a comics background, so I probably don't see the flaws. Did recognize Stan Lee, though, and that's fun. And I knew enough to sit through the credits to see the end bit.
I just saw it and I absolutely loved it! I felt like they had a ton of characters, so with all of them I wanted more - more Happy, more Maya, more Harley! It did seem like they packed a LOT into the movie but I found myself grinning through a lot of it. It was so exciting and so many feelings. I can't wait to see it again.
I loved Iron Man 3. But as a true fan to the comic itself, I was disappointed with the main plot twist. I won't give too much away here, but avid fans of the comic books probably won't be too happy about it.
From a movie stand-point, I absolutely adored the movie. Iron Man has always been, and always will be my favorite Marvel superhero, and I LOVE the movies. Aside from the twist, it was definitely an amazing movie. I've seen it four times now, if that says anything.
From a movie stand-point, I absolutely adored the movie. Iron Man has always been, and always will be my favorite Marvel superhero, and I LOVE the movies. Aside from the twist, it was definitely an amazing movie. I've seen it four times now, if that says anything.
I enjoyed the twist, and thought it added more to it than being that obvious. I'm a comic book fan but I still enjoyed their risk.
I absolutely hated the reveal with the Mandarin. It was like they made a check list of what made the Mandarin such an awesome Iron Man villain and set out to fuck every thing up. I wish I knew nothing of the comic series. I would have liked it more. I felt even more let down than with Christopher Nolan's Bane. I also want to bitch about the Iron Patriot being used too. He did not come along until the Dark Reign and the suit was donned by Norman Osbourn when he was the head of SHIELD (HAMMER). Despite all of that, I could not completely hate it like the Spoony One.
Unfortunately Disney does not own Spiderman and it's characters so unfortunately Norman Osbourn could not be involved in the movie to be the Iron Patriot. If Disney can buy star wars i'd like to hope that one day they can purchase all marvel characters that are owned by Sony or Fox. Tired of watching Sony and Fox absolutely fuck up the X-men, Spiderman, and or Fantastic Four.
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I assumed the movies were supposed to be a different continuity than the comics. To me, Robert Downey Jr is just hot and I loved the movie as a whole. Only thing I know from the comics is what my douchebag ex mentioned as spent hours going on about why this movie would suck and it didn't so one more reason he can rot.
Like I said before, the overall twist was disappointing. But I still think it was a really great movie, definitely better than the sequel. All in all, it is just a movie, not a direct adaptation of the comic books themselves. The only people who seem to be giving the movie a truly bad rap, are the fanboys who believed that everything in the movie had to come directly from the comic books, and were sorely disappointed.
To each their own, I always say. But it was still a very excellent movie, none the less. I have seen it several times in theaters now, and I've come to enjoy it even more.
To each their own, I always say. But it was still a very excellent movie, none the less. I have seen it several times in theaters now, and I've come to enjoy it even more.
Of course I don't want it to be exactly like the comics. Most of my knowledge of Iron Man comes from the Marvel Encyclopedia. I just read the really cool things that Mandarin's rings can do, and the movie does not deliver. The ascetic use of Iron Patriot was really pointless. Most of Colonel Rhodes scenes could have been cut, and nothing would be lost. He was not even important for more than 5 minutes of screen time. This movie forgets that they share a super hero universe. You would think when calling out a terrorist on live t.v, an Avenger would come over to his house and stay there just in case someone come. This movie was a lot of fun, but kind of stupid.
I figure most people reading this will have seen the movie now, so there are a lot of plot points and spoilers discussed!
Major spoilers, so don't read if you haven't seen it!
Really Spoilers!
I thought it was a good entertaining movie when I first saw it, but the more I have thought about it afterwards the more I've decided I can't stand this movie! It just doesn't make any sense at all. Cool to watch, but don't try thinking about it to much!
I don't mind giving the movie makers some leeway when I'm watching a comic book movie, but too much logic defying film making happened for me to forgive it no matter how awesome it looked. I can forgive stuff like being able to survive being in a room with explosions going off because you dodge them in slow motions - as it looks pretty cool - and is the excepted laws of physics in the comic movie universe - I'm talking more about bizarre script choices, but I'll get to that...
I'll start with things I liked.
It worked as a sequel to the previous Iron Man movies and the Avengers, the characters had moved and developed after the events in those movies.
All the leads were pitch perfect with the material they were given. Couldn't fault the acting. There was real emotion behind the characters and you felt for them.
The directing was great to, the film looked the money. It was dark in the right places and funny in the right places to.
The special effects were mostly great, usually I don't like CG that much, but this movie wasn't worse for being an effects movie.
Some of the set pieces were amazing. I was very impressed by the plane scene, and knowing that the opening of one of the James Bond movies where Bond jumps from a plane, takes the parachute of another character and lands safely took over 100 jumps on 2 days the mind boggles to the co-ordination it would have taken to perform the 'barrel of monkeys' sequence in Iron Man 3!
The music was great to, great score, great choice of songs.
Things I didn't think were so good...
The plot...
So the bad guys have a formula for regrowing limbs and healing people? But occasionally something goes wrong and the person explodes. The explosions are a mystery, so to take the heat of off them they hire/force an actor to become an Osama Bin Laden type terrorist and take blame for it? Ok - how does that make sense? Instead of the authorities having nothing to go on, now they have someone to investigate and track down that leads right back to Killian? (Which is exactly what Iron Man did!)
Tony uses a proto-type suit through the whole movie that fails, fall to bits, runs out of power.. then says in the last 10 minutes, 'ok Jarvis now' and 30 kick-ass suits that were under the destroyed mansion come to life and were sitting there all the time? How about when his house is under attack saying '30 kick-ass suits, capture the helicopter and protect Pepper' ? Were they not online at that point in the movie, did I miss something? If Stark had said to Killian at the climax of the movie something like, 'oh, did you really think I would let you destroy my home? I needed a lead - and I wanted to redecorate anyway - now Jarvis!' Then there would have been genius behind the arrogance of Stark calling the Mandarin out at the start of the movie! It would have tied up a plot hole and I would have bought it, but as it plays out - nah.
Iron Patriot is so impossible to get into that Killian has to basically burn Rhodes out of it. All the other Iron Man suits take one hit from a magma person and fall to pieces?
The Vice President happens to be in on it because his daughter is an amputee and he is the person Rhodes and Stark contact about their suspicions! Not Shield, not the military, not anyone that might be of use! How inconvenient for them!
Where were Shield, ok its not an Avengers movie. But Marvel have gone to such lengths to tie all the movies together in a well thought out continuity that the lack of Shield involvement seemed odd.
What? every single one of the test subjects decided to become Killian's goon? It was an addictive process, but surely patriots who were fighting for their country might not go along with the whole nutty terrorist plan? Where was their motivation, was it getting a limb back? Surely they were now involved in the very thing they enlisted to defend against? Pepper didn't become a goon, so there was still free will involved!
The whole plot was horribly signposted because they ripped off Batman Forever! Aldrich Killian/Edward Nygma (socially awkward, spotty and greasy hair!) Go to Tony Stark / Bruce Wayne and get blown off. Only to come back later with a new haircut, better skin, a chip on their shoulder, and a rival company! There were no real surprises in the movie! The Mandarin twist was easy to guess, I did think though it was going to be Maya or Aldrich under make up, so the actor thing was different from how I thought it would play out. If the prologue was left off and shown later in the movie as a flashback as Stark uncovered what was happening it wouldn't have signposted things so obviously!
There were lots of little pay offs that I thought could happen that didn't happen. If you say a kid is getting bullied in act two, show the bullies getting what they deserve in act 4. It was nice to go back and see he had been rewarded, but it would have been a nicer emotional note to see him getting on a school bus and some punks about to pick on him, only to see the punks getting blasted out the bus doors, or something like that. Could have been a post, post end credit scene!
When did Tony get parkour lessons? Hated his near Spiderman like running jumping hanging on end of movie theatrics! Wasn't he a few days earlier a non-sleeping, unfit, neurotic mess?
Pepper came back to life? Ok, no one stays dead in comic books, but wouldn't this have been a great loss to motivate Tony and get him back on track but also have giving him a dark edge? Maybe I wanted it to dark.
Tony gets the arc generator removed? If this was the last appearance of Iron Man, I think that would have been a cool ending. But isn't that literally the heart of the character?
The Mandarin issue. Well I didn't mind what they did with the Mandarin, but I'm annoyed they ignored the set up of the first two movies. In the first Iron Man Tony was kidnapped buy the 10 ring terrorist group - you can see the symbol on the wall behind him in the cave. Iron Man 2 - Whiplash was also meant to work for the 10 ring organization, though admittedly this was cut from the final movie for time reasons and you only find it out listening to the commentary. All this was meant to work towards the big reveal in Iron Man 3 that the Mandarin was the mastermind behind several things in the previous movies. My ditching this and having him a unaware actor kinda undermines all the set up that was seeded in the other movies! I guess that's what happens when you change the director - new ideas, a different vision. And what was the deal with all the shots of the Mandarin flexing his rings in the trailer that weren't even in the movie? - le sigh
So, I know I am in the minority. Its done better that the other Iron Man movies, so I totally accept my opinion is against the mainstream - but this movie was a let down for me!
(I know I think to much, but also wouldn't the extreme heat burn of Killian's tattoos? Even if they were inked in some super heat resistant material, why would the body art return when he regenerated?)
Major spoilers, so don't read if you haven't seen it!
Really Spoilers!
I thought it was a good entertaining movie when I first saw it, but the more I have thought about it afterwards the more I've decided I can't stand this movie! It just doesn't make any sense at all. Cool to watch, but don't try thinking about it to much!
I don't mind giving the movie makers some leeway when I'm watching a comic book movie, but too much logic defying film making happened for me to forgive it no matter how awesome it looked. I can forgive stuff like being able to survive being in a room with explosions going off because you dodge them in slow motions - as it looks pretty cool - and is the excepted laws of physics in the comic movie universe - I'm talking more about bizarre script choices, but I'll get to that...
I'll start with things I liked.
It worked as a sequel to the previous Iron Man movies and the Avengers, the characters had moved and developed after the events in those movies.
All the leads were pitch perfect with the material they were given. Couldn't fault the acting. There was real emotion behind the characters and you felt for them.
The directing was great to, the film looked the money. It was dark in the right places and funny in the right places to.
The special effects were mostly great, usually I don't like CG that much, but this movie wasn't worse for being an effects movie.
Some of the set pieces were amazing. I was very impressed by the plane scene, and knowing that the opening of one of the James Bond movies where Bond jumps from a plane, takes the parachute of another character and lands safely took over 100 jumps on 2 days the mind boggles to the co-ordination it would have taken to perform the 'barrel of monkeys' sequence in Iron Man 3!
The music was great to, great score, great choice of songs.
Things I didn't think were so good...
The plot...
So the bad guys have a formula for regrowing limbs and healing people? But occasionally something goes wrong and the person explodes. The explosions are a mystery, so to take the heat of off them they hire/force an actor to become an Osama Bin Laden type terrorist and take blame for it? Ok - how does that make sense? Instead of the authorities having nothing to go on, now they have someone to investigate and track down that leads right back to Killian? (Which is exactly what Iron Man did!)
Tony uses a proto-type suit through the whole movie that fails, fall to bits, runs out of power.. then says in the last 10 minutes, 'ok Jarvis now' and 30 kick-ass suits that were under the destroyed mansion come to life and were sitting there all the time? How about when his house is under attack saying '30 kick-ass suits, capture the helicopter and protect Pepper' ? Were they not online at that point in the movie, did I miss something? If Stark had said to Killian at the climax of the movie something like, 'oh, did you really think I would let you destroy my home? I needed a lead - and I wanted to redecorate anyway - now Jarvis!' Then there would have been genius behind the arrogance of Stark calling the Mandarin out at the start of the movie! It would have tied up a plot hole and I would have bought it, but as it plays out - nah.
Iron Patriot is so impossible to get into that Killian has to basically burn Rhodes out of it. All the other Iron Man suits take one hit from a magma person and fall to pieces?
The Vice President happens to be in on it because his daughter is an amputee and he is the person Rhodes and Stark contact about their suspicions! Not Shield, not the military, not anyone that might be of use! How inconvenient for them!
Where were Shield, ok its not an Avengers movie. But Marvel have gone to such lengths to tie all the movies together in a well thought out continuity that the lack of Shield involvement seemed odd.
What? every single one of the test subjects decided to become Killian's goon? It was an addictive process, but surely patriots who were fighting for their country might not go along with the whole nutty terrorist plan? Where was their motivation, was it getting a limb back? Surely they were now involved in the very thing they enlisted to defend against? Pepper didn't become a goon, so there was still free will involved!
The whole plot was horribly signposted because they ripped off Batman Forever! Aldrich Killian/Edward Nygma (socially awkward, spotty and greasy hair!) Go to Tony Stark / Bruce Wayne and get blown off. Only to come back later with a new haircut, better skin, a chip on their shoulder, and a rival company! There were no real surprises in the movie! The Mandarin twist was easy to guess, I did think though it was going to be Maya or Aldrich under make up, so the actor thing was different from how I thought it would play out. If the prologue was left off and shown later in the movie as a flashback as Stark uncovered what was happening it wouldn't have signposted things so obviously!
There were lots of little pay offs that I thought could happen that didn't happen. If you say a kid is getting bullied in act two, show the bullies getting what they deserve in act 4. It was nice to go back and see he had been rewarded, but it would have been a nicer emotional note to see him getting on a school bus and some punks about to pick on him, only to see the punks getting blasted out the bus doors, or something like that. Could have been a post, post end credit scene!
When did Tony get parkour lessons? Hated his near Spiderman like running jumping hanging on end of movie theatrics! Wasn't he a few days earlier a non-sleeping, unfit, neurotic mess?
Pepper came back to life? Ok, no one stays dead in comic books, but wouldn't this have been a great loss to motivate Tony and get him back on track but also have giving him a dark edge? Maybe I wanted it to dark.
Tony gets the arc generator removed? If this was the last appearance of Iron Man, I think that would have been a cool ending. But isn't that literally the heart of the character?
The Mandarin issue. Well I didn't mind what they did with the Mandarin, but I'm annoyed they ignored the set up of the first two movies. In the first Iron Man Tony was kidnapped buy the 10 ring terrorist group - you can see the symbol on the wall behind him in the cave. Iron Man 2 - Whiplash was also meant to work for the 10 ring organization, though admittedly this was cut from the final movie for time reasons and you only find it out listening to the commentary. All this was meant to work towards the big reveal in Iron Man 3 that the Mandarin was the mastermind behind several things in the previous movies. My ditching this and having him a unaware actor kinda undermines all the set up that was seeded in the other movies! I guess that's what happens when you change the director - new ideas, a different vision. And what was the deal with all the shots of the Mandarin flexing his rings in the trailer that weren't even in the movie? - le sigh
So, I know I am in the minority. Its done better that the other Iron Man movies, so I totally accept my opinion is against the mainstream - but this movie was a let down for me!
(I know I think to much, but also wouldn't the extreme heat burn of Killian's tattoos? Even if they were inked in some super heat resistant material, why would the body art return when he regenerated?)
Eden01 said:
I do not think it makes any sense either.
Eden01 said:
I think his arrogance is what caused this. He was not expecting the attack when it happened, and rumble covered up the hanger during the attack.
Eden01 said:
They did not want to damage the Iron Patriot, so they were trying to be gentle.
Eden01 said:
This is just a big plot hole.
Eden01 said:
Maybe they killed the ones who did not join.
Eden01 said:
I hated that too, but I guess they wanted to end the trilogy with a everything is all good now ending for some reason.
Shaun__ said:
Actually, this happens in the comic books as well. He uses the Extremis to constantly regenerate tissue so that he could remove the shrapnel heading toward his heart. At that point, he no longer needs the arc reactor in his chest (which was originally put there to hinder the movement of the shrapnel). So it sort of makes sense that he would remove the reactor at this point, now that Extremis has been introduced into the world of Iron Man.
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