Thank you
@Marie Wadsworth, so very nice of you to create an account here just to share your experience of working with us
A small correction about what Marie said: payouts via wire transfer are for free for most countries of the world, including USA / CA and all of Europe. Made me think that we still haven't corrected the interface, my bad.
Realized I didn't get around to responding to this. From your initial post I wasn't clear on whether you were a "payment method" as you put it or a content delivery site. So obviously you're moreso the latter.
I'd say we're both: you can process payments with us for services & content, in case of content we take care of the delivery.
What we're building if I may say is an abstraction: we want to take care of all the friction there is when selling adult content & services online so that you can truly focus on your marketing and growing your business. That's why we take care of frauds, content delivery, getting you a website / store up & running and so forth.
I've actually worked with CCBill directly on a personal site of my own some years ago, and I hate hate hated them. I didn't need to be incorporated to work with them, is that new or just not accurate?
Was CCBill powering your personal site when you were working with them? Did you have a business status like 'sole proprietorship' ?
CCBill and other payment service providers are able to offer what we offer if they want to, because in a way they are one step higher than us in the chain. Most don't, I was unaware CCBill does offer the possibility to process payments without being incorporated - if you can share some details about your former setup that'd be awesome as it'd help me to know more
I could be interested in a third party shopping cart (unsure why you refer to your service as if it wasn't one? "You would not really need the third party any longer" -- but... you're the third party here?) if it offered flexibility and functionality I wanted (I'd still also want to allow a 100% no cut to you Bitcoin option and adaptability for whatever I want that instant), but honestly I prefer to keep that in my own hands, knowing that if I want to add a feature I just need to install another module or modify/add some code on my own. And to have everything hosted on an account where I'm the only admin.
I guess it depends how you look at it: if we were primarily working together to process your sales but you rely on another company for your shopping cart then they're the third party in that case. We are indeed a third party when it comes to you and your customers - I may be using 'third party' in an inaccurate way though as english isn't my native language.
What we're building is going to come with APIs, we do want you to have as much control as possible: it's your business and you run it as you see fit. I'll give a more precise ETA regarding APIs after we've rolled out our new version.
We're not going to be able to offer 100% when adding Bitcoins as a payment method as we still have costs related to each and every order - but we should be relatively close to it.
You are the only admin of your account indeed, we simply power you an account - which is limited by the current state of our tech - and we don't come messing up with its management: it's yours.
I'm picky, and I'm an ex professional web dev and designer. That's not within the capabilities of everyone, so your service looks like a great option, otherwise. It's a bummer that there aren't more payment processing options for those who can manage the rest on their own.
That is awesome! I sincerely hope you'll come work with us at some point: we're building an ecosystem and with your capabilities you'll be able to make great use of it for your own business and the rest of the community.
I understand we do not currently offer enough, but I believe APIs will make you able to achieve your vision and even more: you'd be able to make money by proposing great stuff you've built to the rest of the community if you wish
I'll probably give in to using another service if I do increase my clip output and feel like I can pull in the traffic (at the moment I feel that the traffic other sites provide me is worth an extra cut of my earnings). I'll still feel like I'm giving in, though. But I'm and edge case, tbh
No problems. And please know that you can have both right now without too much effort: getting your 75 videos into your own indie store would take about 2-3 hours work on your side and you can start pulling in traffic in a lean way.
We never recommend stopping to work with clip stores: their cut is justified whenever they bring you customers, however given the lack of a better solution many models also send their own traffic to C4S etc. and for this we recommend getting your own indie store with us as it isn't much efforts.
You're not an edge case for us by the way
At the moment we're building solutions for models to use directly because we're just getting started. However we know that we'll never be able to build all of which the community may need. That's why our end goal is to make IndieBill a Platform as a Service so that everyone can use our tech to build great stuff on top of it relatively easily
