If you could change anything about camming what would it be?

[Teagan]

I didnt take offense to your opinion nor am I butt hurt over it. Not sure where you even got that from other than calling you on the name calling. I just do not agree and as I said ive seen the argument several times and it's the same thing over and over and it gets pretty old. Especially when it's not based on anything really. The opposite numbers are actually shown where the spending on MFC has increased significantly actually over the past few years yet people continue to argue the opposite is true despite the proof.

Now what I do take offense at is you calling other girls clueless. One sentence you're name calling then the next say people wont agree with you and its okay and that's extremely hypocritical when your basis for the name calling is cause they dont agree with you. And seeing as how several of them are on the top with large camscores they are obviously doing something right for themselves so to me that'd kinda be the opposite of clueless. Your also talking about drama and catfights while calling other top girls names...again hypocritical behavior.

Theres a lot of what ifs about camming and what happens if several girls do this or that and what have you but really none of it matters. Worry about yourself and what youre doing and stop worrying about what another model sells for what as it truly does not effect you. Since it bothers your mood so much that seems like the best solution for you.

 

[HoldItNow]

Where do I get these Pillsbury videos everyone is talking about?

 

[LilyBlueBBW]

Where do I get these Pillsbury videos everyone is talking about?

I am going to take a small guess and say on the pillsbury biscuit site. I think the pillsbury videos are cooking tutorials. I wasn't aware that camgirls were allowed to drink booze on camera much less cook on camera but if it puts some long green in your pocket, do your thing. I wonder if there are any camgirl videos that exist of making biscuits from scratch.

www.pillsbury.com/

 

[Mila_]

@Teagan

1) Calling people names requires you to actually name them. Talking about a practice in general terms is not name calling.

So, for instance, if I say that using your position of power to gain advantages for yourself is corrupt and I dislike dishonest politicians that do this, I am not calling Hillary Clinton names. If she fits the description, that's her problem.

So when I saw that top models that sell their videos for 5 tokens are clueless I am not calling anyone names. All I am saying it is a clueless thing to do to sell your videos for 5 tokens when you are on top.

2) As a camgirl you can be clueless and successful at the same time, it isn't mutually exclusive because on MFC success isn't always the result of skill, or wit, sometimes it is the result of a whale liking you, or a mirage, the result of self-tipping to keep your camscore high.

3) If I wanted to create drama I wouldn't post a harmless opinion on a fantasy thread, I would create drama and be nasty about it. So I would appreciate it if you would refrain from calling me a hypocrite, it is petty. Everyone understood exactly what I meant with my original post. You were the only person taking offence at it.

4) Correct me if I am wrong, but I do not think your main site is MFC. If a successful SM model creates a thread about Streamate's culture changing and other successful SM models back her thoughts, my balls would have to be pretty big to tell them their complaints have no merit.

5) Price theory is a complex subject that economists study for years. Perhaps there is more to it than what you think is there. It is pretty close minded to deny flat out that the way others price their goods will not hurt your sales. If you are in a market with 50 other stands, and everyone is selling their jam for $0.2, perhaps people will be less inclined to buy yours for $20. At least it is worth pondering.

 

[mynameisbob84]

I think very little exists in a vacuum in camland. I do think low prices for videos will have a knock-on effect on other cam girls. You can certainly argue "if model x is selling a video for a dollar, why would someone pay $20 for model y's video?" But I think it works both ways. If a member has a $20 budget, then by buying model y's video, there might be twenty other models offering videos at a dollar a pop that will be missing out on that member's money. I think ultimately models have to be cut-throat and look out for themselves. If they start to worry about how their prices might impact other cam girls, then they're going to struggle, because there's very little a cam girl can do that won't impact the competition in one way or another,.

 

[Notmyproblem69]

It's not the exact same thing, but there is a bit of a parallel.

I've seen quite a few models offering a video or picset to all new tippers. You can tip 10-20 tokens and get a video that's hot, but one of the model's older videos, that she doesn't usually sell anymore because she's since upgraded her equipment and prefers to sell her newer, better-quality stuff. Some guys are going to just tip those 10 tokens, get the content, and look for the next deal. Others will watch the video, decide that this girl's a new fave, and come back to her room, contribute to countdowns, and buy her newer videos.

Given, this is an easier system for models like me who mainly make content and only cam occasionally. I've got folders and folders of old content sitting around that isn't listed on any site, and using it as an incentive for new tippers is no skin off my nose, because it already paid for itself when I uploaded it three years ago, so someone tipping me 20 tokens for one of these videos is just a bonus to what that clip already made me.

On the other hand, for a model who has her main focus on camming and only makes a couple videos per month or even year, that's not going to be an option because she's just not going to have that many videos and won't want to discount them.

I agree, the new tipper video is a great way to see if the model is a new favorite, and mostly likely they will go back to buy more content if she is. I recently purchased a new tipper video, and the model sent me one of her older clips. For models who have a lot of content, it's not really a "loss" for them. Yes, selling videos for nickels doesn't seem like a profit for her, but she's getting tips on a much older video. A video that makes her 200 extra tokens one night from several new "potential regular" members is a profit that she otherwise wouldn't be getting.

Also to keep in mind though that guy who will not tip 200 tokens for a vid in one models room cause for that price or 5 tokens he can get a bundle deal elsewhere was never going to spend 200 tokens on one vid to begin with. To any model. People who want deals will either do without usually when it comes to porn or wait for a deal he likes. These guys are not the big spenders or the type to care about exclusivity.

I do agree with Teagan.

 

[Teagan]

Name calling by definition is abusive language or insults. So just because you did not list off specific names you did still name call and insult entire group of girls who sell cheaper vids for whatever reason by calling them clueless. By saying it's their problem if they fit the description is just trying to justify it. It's not petty of me to call you on it either or mention one thing you are saying does not match up with another thing you are saying. And just cause a bunch of other people didnt care to comment on it does not mean no one else would or did take offense to it if they saw it. That's an assumption on your part.

No MFC is not my main site though I have worked there. I have 6 years of experience in camming and have seen a lot of thse complaints in that time. Its not like I do not know what i'm talking about. As I said ive seen this being said for years and plain and simply the numbers do not back it all up or any of the other stuff being said. If you wanna think or believe different despite that then go right ahead, I can't stop you. And yes this is just a fantasy thread and you can speak your mind and say you wish models would price fix but then that also means I can speak mine and say i'm glad it's not. Acting as if cause i'm not on MFC full time that I shouldn't say anything in a fantasy thread is just silly and your analogy just doesnt work here to me.

And as far as the economy maybe you would be wise to take your own advice and understand there's more to it than you think as well. Having your opinion is one thing but it's just that...an opinion. It doesnt take an economist though to see of course those who sell a cheaper product will get more sales and when you are in a competition based business you better figure out a way to stay competitive or fail. Were lucky though that our only commodity to sell or show is not just videos and that's exactly why even with price fixing girls will still rise and fall and get tipped for things. So the idea of wishing everyone would not do bundle deals does very little effect everyone across the board cause vids are only a very small part of this job.

 

[Guy]

Name calling by definition is abusive language or insults. So just because you did not list off specific names you did still name call and insult entire group of girls who sell cheaper vids for whatever reason by calling them clueless. By saying it's their problem if they fit the description is just trying to justify it. It's not petty of me to call you on it either or mention one thing you are saying does not match up with another thing you are saying. And just cause a bunch of other people didnt care to comment on it does not mean no one else would or did take offense to it if they saw it. That's an assumption on your part.

No MFC is not my main site though I have worked there. I have 6 years of experience in camming and have seen a lot of thse complaints in that time. Its not like I do not know what i'm talking about. As I said ive seen this being said for years and plain and simply the numbers do not back it all up or any of the other stuff being said. If you wanna think or believe different despite that then go right ahead, I can't stop you. And yes this is just a fantasy thread and you can speak your mind and say you wish models would price fix but then that also means I can speak mine and say i'm glad it's not. Acting as if cause i'm not on MFC full time that I shouldn't say anything in a fantasy thread is just silly and your analogy just doesnt work here to me.

And as far as the economy maybe you would be wise to take your own advice and understand there's more to it than you think as well. Having your opinion is one thing but it's just that...an opinion. It doesnt take an economist though to see of course those who sell a cheaper product will get more sales and when you are in a competition based business you better figure out a way to stay competitive or fail. Were lucky though that our only commodity to sell or show is not just videos and that's exactly why even with price fixing girls will still rise and fall and get tipped for things. So the idea of wishing everyone would not do bundle deals does very little effect everyone across the board cause vids are only a very small part of this job.

Do some cam sites prohibit their models from working on other cam sites?

 

[Teagan]

Do some cam sites prohibit their models from working on other cam sites?

In general no. At the same time, like split camming, yes some do.

 

[Guy]

In general no. At the same time, like split camming, yes some do.

Whats split camming?

 

[Teagan]

Whats split camming?

Using one webcam feed and broadcasting it to one or more sites simultaneously. So basically you can be on multiple sites at once. It has it's advantages and disadvantages.

 

[Ann_Sulu]

Just chiming in real quick to comment over SM's earnings.

Also, while reading this, keep in mind that though I only work at that camsite for now...Streamate bores me to tears, unless I have an interesting paid chat. You can't easily keep conversation in free chat, so it's just kinda paid chat after paid chat there. I love the community you get like @AmberCutie spoke of in a previous post...but the site does pay out a lot better than most sites I've worked on...including Myfreecams.

Yes it is a low percentage equivalent to a studio, but 1) they do way more advertising. Streamate often will buy camsites, and turn them into "white label sites" these get the models WAY more traffic.

2) Streamate also has means of getting way higher income through affiliates like Moneytree.

Moneytree gives you 30% from what they spend on other girls, and 40% of what they spend on you. The only way you lose your referrals is if your account is closed or banned.

If I remember correctly the BAF on MFC only gives you an extra 20-200 tokens for each person who signs up. Moneytree on the other hand, is a weekly check on top of SM's weekly checks. It's doesn't start out as a ton, but I've known models who claim they've practically made their rent from that alone before.

So though I am planning to cam on a more social site (to save my sanity) in Jan, I still plan on the majority of my income being SM for those reasons.

 

[AmberCutie]

Just chiming in real quick to comment over SM's earnings.

Also, while reading this, keep in mind that though I only work at that camsite for now...Streamate bores me to tears, unless I have an interesting paid chat. You can't easily keep conversation in free chat, so it's just kinda paid chat after paid chat there. I love the community you get like @AmberCutie spoke of in a previous post...but the site does pay out a lot better than most sites I've worked on...including Myfreecams.

Yes it is a low percentage equivalent to a studio, but 1) they do way more advertising. Streamate often will buy camsites, and turn them into "white label sites" these get the models WAY more traffic.

2) Streamate also has means of getting way higher income through affiliates like Moneytree.

Moneytree gives you 30% from what they spend on other girls, and 40% of what they spend on you. The only way you lose your referrals is if your account is closed or banned.

If I remember correctly the BAF on MFC only gives you an extra 200 for each person who signs up.

So though I am planning to cam on a more social site (to save my sanity) in Jan, I still plan on the majority of my income being SM for those reasons.

Yeah taking referrals into consideration makes SM more appealing. If MFC had a better referral program for models it would be fantastic. While I appreciate the BAF program it doesn't really do much overall. If I could get a bonus for members who sign up and buy tokens as a result of seeing my profile or being in my room I'd be much happier and probably try a little harder to convert new members. But as it is, the BAFs only really result from my Twitter links or other social media that my link gets spread to as I cannot push my link in my room while I'm online or on my profile. Grr. There's a thing I would change.

Edit: and not to mention, BAFs go to my premium account, not paid out on my paychecks, so it's sort of a farce anyway. Though it is fun to spend on my other girly friends, at least.

 

[CharlotteLace]

The problem is that not all videos/models are made equal. Of course undercutting happens and affects others. On the other hand, price is not the sole determining factor in video purchases. Human emotions play into camming quite a lot. Saying "it's just simple economics" while arguing that we should limit how a free market works just seems silly. There's an ebb and flow that dictates all model success. Once a market hits rock bottom, either it fizzles out or climbs back. Like when $0 gold shows started on sm. They worked for a while, then models got burnt out and started charging again. Can't blame anybody for doing what works for them, and switching it up as they see fit. Playing up your highlights is more productive than worrying that x model is making it harder for you to sell. Walmart makes money, and Armani makes money. They both make products that suit their customers' needs, and they both are doing okay. They just have different demographics. And yes, there's different demographics within the camming community as well.

 

[AmberCutie]

Walmart makes money, and Armani makes money. They both make products that suit their customers' needs, and they both are doing okay. They just have different demographics.

I wonder how the numbers would add up if Walmart and Armani were right next door to each other. Would any Armani shoppers ever be swayed by sales going on next door? Or will the high quality and name brand always keep their patronage? Would someone new to both stores pull up in the parking lot and choose the higher priced/quality one, or would the discount lure most of them in?

(These are just ponderings that could be fun to discuss, not trying to start an argument or anything. Curious what people think.)

 

[Ann_Sulu]

@CharlotteLace Agreed. Things change constantly with camming. I charged very cheaply when I first started camming (2012) due to having to compete with so many, while I had zero reputation. For a long time I couldn't be consistent, until I eventually got things setting in life as Ann_Sulu. My video prices when I started were always the same...a dollar a minute (not custom videos just menu video price). Sometimes if I needed extra cash I'd sell them for a cheap price, but never as their original cost.

After I became Ann (2014), I pushed group shows. These were easy for people to leave if they weren't interested, but also not spend too much money. I never had a whale tipper, so worrying about if I might go broke from one leaving was never a worry. Eventually it didn't matter how high or low I put my topic...everyone just wanted to do group only. By this point enough had heard something of me, through MFC or clip sites. I later made a switch to KinkLive then SM after they got bought out. I refuse to do gold shows (so I don't get hagglers) and set reasonable, yet not "cheap" paid chat prices. My ratings and comment section I feel are enough to tell people they can take me seriously. I don't regret doing cheap shows, as it was the fastest, and easiest method for someone with a sporadic schedule to build a reputation. I made my rent, so it was worth it for that much at least, but now that I'm always on at the same time and have people backing me that I know what I'm doing...I'd definitely not do it again at this point.

 

[CharlotteLace]

I wonder how the numbers would add up if Walmart and Armani were right next door to each other. Would any Armani shoppers ever be swayed by sales going on next door? Or will the high quality and name brand always keep their patronage? Would someone new to both stores pull up in the parking lot and choose the higher priced/quality one, or would the discount lure most of them in?

(These are just ponderings that could be fun to discuss, not trying to start an argument or anything. Curious what people think.)

I think brand loyalty is often understimated in this industry. Yes, members visit all sorts of girls, but if you're distinct with your style, I don't think you have to worry much about the Walmart next door. I can think of dozens of notable models that have been successful by turning their personality into their brand.

Some people like Walmart because they get more product for their dollar, increasing their spending power. Some people like Armani because they like to see that tag or feel it's higher quality material. It's all about perception of value, and that's such a complex concept with so many factors, I could write a novel on that alone.

If they were next door to each other, I think there'd be very little cross-over. It's like putting Kobe beef next to a family-pack of pork chops in the meat section. The only difference in their value is how practical they are to a particular customer, and that's what determines what gets bought.

-end ramble-

 

[justjoinedtopost]

The problem is that not all videos/models are made equal. Of course undercutting happens and affects others. On the other hand, price is not the sole determining factor in video purchases. Human emotions play into camming quite a lot. Saying "it's just simple economics" while arguing that we should limit how a free market works just seems silly.

What you just stated has been in my mind as I have read this thread.

I have only bought videos from 3 models, and buying them had nothing to do with price, every thing to do with the model selling them. Videos really don't mean a lot to me.

The only time price figured into the equation for me was with another model who wanted me to pay a ridiculously high amount for a video I was interested in (not a custom). She was asking roughly double what models in the top 20 ask for vids. Haven't spent anything on her since.

 

[Poison_Ivy21]

I think brand loyalty is often understimated in this industry. Yes, members visit all sorts of girls, but if you're distinct with your style, I don't think you have to worry much about the Walmart next door. I can think of dozens of notable models that have been successful by turning their personality into their brand.

Some people like Walmart because they get more product for their dollar, increasing their spending power. Some people like Armani because they like to see that tag or feel it's higher quality material. It's all about perception of value, and that's such a complex concept with so many factors, I could write a novel on that alone.

If they were next door to each other, I think there'd be very little cross-over. It's like putting Kobe beef next to a family-pack of pork chops in the meat section. The only difference in their value is how practical they are to a particular customer, and that's what determines what gets bought.

-end ramble-

The Walmart/Armani comparison is deeply flawed though. Armani sells strictly designer clothes. Walmart has pretty much everything under the sun. I think there would certainly be crossover. Someone shopping for Armani clothes may still want to buy, lets say, electronics from Walmart.

A better comparison would be Walmart and Target, since they are the same type of store.

 

[Teagan]

The Walmart/Armani comparison is deeply flawed though. Armani sells strictly designer clothes. Walmart has pretty much everything under the sun. I think there would certainly be crossover. Someone shopping for Armani clothes may still want to buy, lets say, electronics from Walmart.

A better comparison would be Walmart and Target, since they are the same type of store.

Well the point was a high end vs a low end cheaper option so Target vs Walmart wont work either when it comes to that. So let's say Armani vs Walmart clothing section alone or any other cheaper non designer clothing store.

 

[CharlotteLace]

hahahaha, sorry for my flawed analogies. But yeah, if Walmart just sold clothes, then. Or go with my meat analogy.

As an aside, holy fuck marbling.

 

[Teagan]

Any high end vs low end will work but damn that meat looks good lol. Say the market for Ferrari or Lamborghini vs the market for a Ford Fiesta/Fusion or Chevy Sonic/Malibu. Or buying Maybelline makeup vs Tom Ford makeup. Ikea Furniture vs Kindel furniture. All have their own market and variety of attributes and marketing and it's up to the consumer to pick and choose what works best for them personally.

 

[JoleneBrody]

The Walmart/Armani comparison is deeply flawed though. Armani sells strictly designer clothes. Walmart has pretty much everything under the sun. I think there would certainly be crossover. Someone shopping for Armani clothes may still want to buy, lets say, electronics from Walmart.

A better comparison would be Walmart and Target, since they are the same type of store.

But that would take away the idea that not all content is considered equal. Not to compare myself to Armani by any means but all of my content, except for show recordings of course, is professionally shot and very high end in general for the cam world. Every month I have the SLF buy in option to get that months exclusive video and super cool desktop image for 500+ tokens, which is a high price by site standards. I'm very proud the say over the years that the number of SLF regulars that come back and get it every single month is way higher than I would have ever expected, minimum 30+. I don't even have that many regular chatters!

At the end of the month I do a bundle deal for the entire months worth of show recordings, and have never had more than 5 people purchase it.

 

[Zoomer]

1st - Steve, you really don't understand things do you >.< So defensive and so determined to "save face" by lashing out again. Take a chill pill, step back and take it easy.

2nd - I understand MFC's referral. Someone may see a models profile and join up because of that, but that's provided by the infrastructure of the site; the site brings them in to you, and then you benefit from tipping.

The BAF is the introduction of people to the site. Whichever model "converts" the basic into a premium is irrelevant, because the model is getting rewarded via the tips.

Once a member hits the site, they hit the site. The reward program is all about getting people to the site in the first instance. The model gets rewarded via a tip already. Other members are encouraged to spread word of mouth - which is a powerful marketing tool in itself.

 

[AmberCutie]

2nd - I understand MFC's referral. Someone may see a models profile and join up because of that, but that's provided by the infrastructure of the site; the site brings them in to you, and then you benefit from tipping.

The BAF is the introduction of people to the site. Whichever model "converts" the basic into a premium is irrelevant, because the model is getting rewarded via the tips.

Once a member hits the site, they hit the site. The reward program is all about getting people to the site in the first instance. The model gets rewarded via a tip already. Other members are encouraged to spread word of mouth - which is a powerful marketing tool in itself.

I understand it, I just wish it was more encouraging to the models to bring new viewers to the site/get them to actually go premium.

And as far as "getting rewarded via the tips"... as terrible as it is, so many people say they joined "because of me" but then spent their initial tokens elsewhere. I would still like to be rewarded in some way shape or fashion since I did *something* to cause them to make that final step toward premiumship.

 

[Poison_Ivy21]

@Teagan
Even though Target is better quality and more expensive than Walmart, yeah it's no Armani. I should have said like Forever 21 vs Neiman Marcus. But now I'm just being overly technical.

Anyway, I think about my step mom. She's well off, and LOVES Target. They have cute stuff with a large variety of products at a decent price point. What's not to love. She also has a massive closet full of designer clothes & shoes. You'll see her in some Jimmy Choo's and some Xhilaration flats, just depends on the day.

My point is, that wealthy people love designer shit, totally. But they also love a great deal at the same time. So the potential for crossover there is pretty big from what I've seen. My Dad always says, "Rich people are rich because they know how to save money." He doesn't have to spend time looking for the best deals, but he does because it's simply a smarter way to shop.

BUT, as was previously pointed out, emotions play a much larger role when guys are shopping for porn than when they're shopping for pretty much anything else. So really, can we compare any porn content to any clothing store? Are guys thinking with their dicks when they're shopping for shoes? Have they had a long term, personal connection with Armani? IDK

Y'all are making me miss school. I majored in Economics so we spent a ton of time discussing why people make the monetary choices that they do. Interesting stuffs, not to mention, useful.

 

[Mila_]

I think the best example is the one @Jessi gave with the farmers market. If you compare any two stores like Armani Vs Walmart, they are both independent and they operate on their own spaces, but camgirls work together in a single space, they depend on the site they work on for their traffic, and they are all selling the same goods. It might not affect Walmart if Target lowers their prices (or it might) but if you bring your jam to the farmers market and every stand by the door is giving their jam away for free, by the time they reach your stand they may not think your jar of jam is worth $20. And sure, your friends and fans of your jam might pay a visit and buy your jam because they like you, or they know your jam already, but I doubt you will be making as many new fans as you could if they weren't giving jam away at the door.

This doesn't mean I don't understand things change and we will all adapt to this, and it does not mean I don't think you can make it work in other ways. Personally I think I will probably stop offering videos and find other ways to reward members, but part of finding a solution is identifying the problem. If you believe undercutting doesn't hurt you, then you might start believing the problem is you as a model and that nobody wants your videos, and you will be mistaken.

 

[Jessi]

I think the best example is the one @Jessi gave with the farmers market. If you compare any two stores like Armani Vs Walmart, they are both independent and they operate on their own spaces, but camgirls work together in a single space, they depend on the site they work on for their traffic, and they are all selling the same goods. It might not affect Walmart if Target lowers their prices (or it might) but if you bring your jam to the farmers market and every stand by the door is giving their jam away for free, by the time they reach your stand they may not think your jar of jam is worth $20. And sure, your friends and fans of your jam might pay a visit and buy your jam because they like you, or they know your jam already, but I doubt you will be making as many new fans as you could if they weren't giving jam away at the door.

This doesn't mean I don't understand things change and we will all adapt to this, and it does not mean I don't think you can make it work in other ways. Personally I think I will probably stop offering videos and find other ways to reward members, but part of finding a solution is identifying the problem. If you believe undercutting doesn't hurt you, then you might start believing the problem is you as a model and that nobody wants your videos, and you will be mistaken.

I felt the need to make that analogy because Jerry didnt seem to find the distinction between camgirl porn and mainstream porn. There are lots of stalls at my local Farmers Market who have samples, and lots that dont. But they all still make sales.

To be clear though, while I am sad that MFC isn't the same as when I joined, I dont think that other models prices are necessarily affecting my success that much. Yeah I wish that I didnt have to put out content every week to stay relevant (I dont, and it shows) but that content does need to stand on its own. Some models dont mind producing lots and lots of content for cheap, some models do. Some models dont like to do private, some models do.

Im sure that member/model/tokens spent inflation has some kind of effect on the general MFC economy, but at the end of the day there are two groups of members. Some guys are just passing through and maybe want a cheap flash or video deal, and then there are the really awesome regulars who truly support a model's room because they appreciate her. Its on me to build that base up, and while it may be harder to do that than it used to be because of self esteem, or number of models, or whatever,; the stakes are higher too!

I can think of several models in high Miss MFC positions who have pricey content, and several who dont. But they're still up there.

Ultimately different strategies work for different models. I can't fault someone for playing to their base .The only way things could be "equalized" is if a) everyone agree to price their stuff the same (which they wont) or b) if MFC imposed some kind of pricing regulation on models (which isn't fair to do to independent contractors and flies in the face of MFC's business model). I really dont see things changing unless it happens naturally.

TL;DR I get @supermila 's point, and its totally lame that things aren't the same as they were. Buuuuuuut I dont think the video price issue is that much different than public vs private or hardcore vs softcore and so on thats been going on since the beginning. Sorry I am long winded and over caffeinated

 

[Empress Mika]

Speaking from a clips side of things, there is a minimum price that you *must* charge on C4S. It's something like around $1/minute. You don't have the option to make it less money but you do have the option to make it as pricey as you want to. In this pricing model, it allows for a lot of freedom while still upholding a base line minimum price, depending on the length of your video. I've always really liked this feature about the site and it seems, in the clip world anyway, there is a standard all-agreed-upon minimum price for things. In my experience, most models keep it at the minimum price unless the video features something *special* or is a findom video or something similar. I dare say that this may be a nice feature to have on MFC or any other cam site but we all know that there's no way it will be upheld.

Despite how seemingly nice it would be to have a minimum all agreed upon baseline price for content on MFC or other similar cam sites, I feel it takes away a bit of freedom in that we can't make our own choices about how we wish to sell our content - which is something to be considered.

I realize the discussion is more about the chain of events that has a negative impact on our live-caming community over all. As for that, I believe it does. Back when I started in 2009 on my content selling site, I would be able to charge any price I wanted for my content. Typically, I'd charge $20-$40 per video and they'd be around 5-10 minutes. Present day, this would not work very often - needless to say, haha. As the site got more and more popular, there were girls doing $5 for all videos and sometimes they'd have like 100 videos. Did it bring the price down of videos over all? Yes, it did.

Luckily, for live caming, I find that it works best to have a different selling point a bit... as in, not making it about the content but making it more about me and my personality. There is only one me and only one you, despite selling similar "services". Content, in my opinion, works best to sweeten the deal and not as a main attraction on live caming sites.

 

[LilyBlueBBW]

I am sorry to disrupt the obvious arguing/fighting/wwe smackdown: acf edition but I do have one question for the ladies.

Does anyone know if I can sell little trinkets on C4S? You know like panties and socks and mcchickens.