I have a crazy idea, and need feedback

[OFinvestments]

I was thinking about investing money, resources, equipment with certain content creators. The idea is to help with locations, production quality, and all the other little details that take videos to the next level. Does anyone know of anyone else doing this? Can it be done? Would anyone even be interested if I did do it?

Im def looking to make money from my investments, but thought it could be a win/win.

 

[MarieElise]

I was thinking about investing money, resources, equipment with certain content creators. The idea is to help with locations, production quality, and all the other little details that take videos to the next level. Does anyone know of anyone else doing this? Can it be done? Would anyone even be interested if I did do it?

Im def looking to make money from my investments, but thought it could be a win/win.

I'm gonna assume you' re a Member/ Viewer, and not a fellow model then?

A lot of people have what they need already, and if they want to work w someone it would be another established model.
It's pretty common for men to come in offering this kind of thing.

Like it's almost a daily thing. I couldn't say if other models take them up on it, but I never do.
Safety concerns, usually they give no pitch or prior experience or references, it's usually just a money and pussy grab.. or an obvious attempt at both. The sites we work for already take a cut. If a model wanted to get into production porn, wouldn't they just go with an already established company?

Those are my thoughts, maybe I'm missing something...

 

[OFinvestments]

I'm gonna assume you' re a Member/ Viewer, and not a fellow model then?

A lot of people have what they need already, and if they want to work w someone it would be another established model.
It's pretty common for men to come in offering this kind of thing.

Like it's almost a daily thing. I couldn't say if other models take them up on it, but I never do.

Thanks for the feedback.

 

[thinkinboutit]

So this exists and its called a studio.

See also: Guy With Camera

 

[OFinvestments]

Ok, get that. But my thought was to pick the right models, and take care of all cost for portion of revenue from each video produced. Of course, I will be picky on what we do. Doesn't sound any better??

 

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[MarieElise]

Ok, get that. But my thought was to pick the right models, and take care of all cost for portion of revenue from each video produced. Of course, I will be picky on what we do. Doesn't sound any better??

Idk I think more details of what you mean. Maybe if you expound upon your idea a little more.

Just, in general, it doesn't seem to work out, or come off the best.
But also you haven't gone into detail so I could be jumping to conclusions or making assumptions based upon past posters, messengers etc etc.

If you're a safe person who checks out, and you're offering an all-expenses included return trip to Maui, and a $2000 camera, I'm sure you'd have takers. Whether this hypothetical Maui clip would earn you back your initial investment...well I wouldn't bank on it, but anything's possible.

Amateur porn and making it big in amateur porn is a lot more difficult than it looks. The top models make it look super easy, but the reality is that it's not. Unless a newb has an amazing streak of luck or something. So I don't think it sounds crazy, but perhaps a little naive and probably not wise. And I think the odds are that you would have a good, exciting time, losing all your investment.

 

[THE MOLLIE MARIE]

What kind of expertise are you bringing to the project? Which part is your contribution? What makes you specifically capable of creating something successful in this industry? Not just cash.

 

[KingMarti]

Ok, get that. But my thought was to pick the right models, and take care of all cost for portion of revenue from each video produced. Of course, I will be picky on what we do. Doesn't sound any better??

Models that have already been doing clips already have the equipment they need for filming. If they want to use higher quality gear (high end cameras and lighting systems etc) then they can always be rented pretty cheaply from most camera stores. The only thing you could really offer is extra marketing, and if you have the experiance to do the marketing then you would be better off using sites affiliate programs than working with specific individual models. So I dont think I get what it is that you are acctually offering that models cant already do for themselves without having to give up a % of the earnings.

 

[Nigerian Prince]

Ok, get that. But my thought was to pick the right models, and take care of all cost for portion of revenue from each video produced. Of course, I will be picky on what we do. Doesn't sound any better??

The cost of a high end production is never going to justifiable for the vast majority of models. Not only would each video have to make a significant amount to make up for the increased production costs, they would also have to make a considerable amount more than the model could make filming with their own setup.

 

[rockin_rod]

NOT a model, so feel free to ignore comments.
I'm not 100% sure what sort of content you're considering.
But at least for me, one of the (many) appealing things about buying content from my favourite cam models is that it doesn't look like highly-produced mainstream clips, I really enjoy the home-made personal feel.

 

[Lintilla]

The cost of a high end production is never going to justifiable for the vast majority of models. Not only would each video have to make a significant amount to make up for the increased production costs, they would also have to make a considerable amount more than the model could make filming with their own setup.

I was going to respond with something similar. I'd also add that certain customers PREFER the lower production value look.

And wouldn't you know it, while I was typing this, @rockin_rod jumped in to confirm exactly that from the other side.

 

[Life_Happens]

^^ yes, yes, and yes @rockin_rod and @Lintilla (i guess that was one too many yes's). The big fancy productions come off as kind of fake and disingenuous to me - but I am just one guy. A majority of other guys may have a different opinion.

 

[AudriTwo]

so i see its that time of the month where guy with camera offers his service to us.

 

[AmberCutie]

I was going to respond with something similar. I'd also add that certain customers PREFER the lower production value look.

So much this.

For a period of time I tried to raise the quality of my videos and photos with more expensive cameras, etc. My earnings saw no change. I find that the most profitable thing is just to use my iPhone (though I did upgrade THAT last year) for basically all of my content. It's faster and easier to upload to Onlyfans and MFC Share, easy to edit right on the phone, easy to use apps for filters/edits/etc. and the ease of use makes me create MORE content faster!

And nobody cares that it isn't 4k!

So sure I have a fancy 4k camera... but I only use it at 1080p for my live cam shows, and recording a few of my vids here and there via OBS.

 

[DJ_Pioneer]

So much this.

For a period of time I tried to raise the quality of my videos and photos with more expensive cameras, etc. My earnings saw no change. I find that the most profitable thing is just to use my iPhone (though I did upgrade THAT last year) for basically all of my content. It's faster and easier to upload to Onlyfans and MFC Share, easy to edit right on the phone, easy to use apps for filters/edits/etc. and the ease of use makes me create MORE content faster!

And nobody cares that it isn't 4k!

So sure I have a fancy 4k camera... but I only use it at 1080p for my live cam shows, and recording a few of my vids here and there via OBS.

Yes, most people don't have a monitor to do 4k content justice anyway and are not going to be bothered to watch it on their TV. I guess a 4k camera could be useful for cropping the video without losing quality at 1080p but other than that doing it your way is probably better for most people creating content if they have a good phone.

 

[Nigerian Prince]

Yes, most people don't have a monitor to do 4k content justice anyway and are not going to be bothered to watch it on their TV. I guess a 4k camera could be useful for cropping the video without losing quality at 1080p but other than that doing it your way is probably better for most people creating content if they have a good phone.

People put too much emphasis on resolution when it comes to quality. Really the most important thing you gain with better cameras is better colours, more accurate white balancing, and also more flexibility with lighting, but those are things you have to learn, otherwise your more likely to get better looking videos with less effort with newer smartphones.

 

[Life_Happens]

Sorry to keep chiming in about this, but I am a huge fan of a certain porn star. I recently came a across a solo video of her that I had never seen before. It was in 480. Yes, 480. haha. It was one of the most incredible videos I have seen, not because of resolution, but because of the actual content. Saved it! Watched it a few times already! haha

Would I have liked it better in 4K? Meh...who cares. It is great frickin content.

 

[AmberCutie]

Yes, most people don't have a monitor to do 4k content justice anyway and are not going to be bothered to watch it on their TV. I guess a 4k camera could be useful for cropping the video without losing quality at 1080p but other than that doing it your way is probably better for most people creating content if they have a good phone.

And I've come to realize that on Onlyfans, a huge majority of people are watching their subscribed content on their phones, too! So vertically recorded vids are ideal. whodathunkit

 

[DJ_Pioneer]

And I've come to realize that on Onlyfans, a huge majority of people are watching their subscribed content on their phones, too! So vertically recorded vids are ideal. whodathunkit

Not us I guess, it feels like MFC only recently switched from 4:3 to 16:9 and that is already starting to fall out of fashion. I might just as well flip my monitors to portrait mode and get ready for the inevitable.

 

[AudriTwo]

So much this.

For a period of time I tried to raise the quality of my videos and photos with more expensive cameras, etc. My earnings saw no change. I find that the most profitable thing is just to use my iPhone (though I did upgrade THAT last year) for basically all of my content. It's faster and easier to upload to Onlyfans and MFC Share, easy to edit right on the phone, easy to use apps for filters/edits/etc. and the ease of use makes me create MORE content faster!

And nobody cares that it isn't 4k!

So sure I have a fancy 4k camera... but I only use it at 1080p for my live cam shows, and recording a few of my vids here and there via OBS.

i turned 4k off my tv because it weirded me out. it's too lifelike. idk maybe im too introverted. if i wanted to see something lifelike, i'd go watch a play. well come to find out im not the only one who doesn't like 4k and will set their newer 4k devices to 1080p.

 

[ArcticKitty]

Hmm I wonder...?

 

[NotYou]

NOT a model, so feel free to ignore comments.
I'm not 100% sure what sort of content you're considering.
But at least for me, one of the (many) appealing things about buying content from my favourite cam models is that it doesn't look like highly-produced mainstream clips, I really enjoy the home-made personal feel.

I am the exact same, I LOVE the real vibe/feel a video or broadcast has to it (it's one reason I honestly hate Instagram and stuff). "real" and "natural" for me are the most amazing.

 

[ArcticKitty]

Ok, get that. But my thought was to pick the right models, and take care of all cost for portion of revenue from each video produced. Of course, I will be picky on what we do. Doesn't sound any better??

I think it's more like the other way around re "the right models". People don't pay to just see porn, they pay to see a specific individual they enjoy. A model is actively managing her brand equity and of course will be picky on what she does. Creative control and all that.

And it has already been thoroughly pointed out that the production process is not capital intensive.

 

[julia_milifecenta]

I think it's more like the other way around re "the right models". People don't pay to just see porn, they pay to see a specific individual they enjoy. A model is actively managing her brand equity and of course will be picky on what she does. Creative control and all that.

And it has already been thoroughly pointed out that the production process is not capital intensive.

It's true. But it's hard to become the kind of girl the viewer wanted to see.

 

[OFinvestments]

Thanks for all the thoughts and feedback. Obviously, this needs to be thought out a bit more before trying to do anything.

 

[AudriTwo]

Thanks for all the thoughts and feedback. Obviously, this needs to be thought out a bit more before trying to do anything.

question what's your overall goal?

to earn a profit in the industry or fuck adult content creators? because reading your replies you seem like you are wanting to do more than just location and production.

I was thinking about investing money, resources, equipment with certain content creators. The idea is to help with locations, production quality, and all the other little details that take videos to the next level.

Ok, get that. But my thought was to pick the right models, and take care of all cost for portion of revenue from each video produced. Of course, I will be picky on what we do. Doesn't sound any better??

seems sus.

if you want to earn a living, the first thing to do start making content yourself. you don't need a female. it's pretty common knowledge amongst performers is that couple cams/content usually don't earn as much as a solo. sure there is a market for it, but a small one. you gotta be really fucking lucky. there are plenty of successful males in the industry who are solo. if you have a camera, solid upload speed, and a valid government id, you are good to go.

i dont think you should really come up with any ideas without having experience in it first other than consuming and the funds/equipment. there are performers out there who do want to make content with someone else, but most will not collaborate without some reputation and that's with whatever gender the person may be. there has to be some level of trust built. that reputation can be performance, photo/videography skills, manage the brand, social skills, ect.

 

[LaceyRoyce]

So.... if someone could offer me a large safe studio space and help produce certain high earning fetish clips (hypno greenscreen stuff, giantess, WAM etc) I MIGHT be interested. But these are specific categories that require more than I have at home. And I'd want to be in charge since I know my brand and what I'm selling.

 

[ArcticKitty]

It's true. But it's hard to become the kind of girl the viewer wanted to see.

I'm sorry, I don't understand?

 

[ArcticKitty]

@AudriTwo, I'm thinking that for legitimate investing and models maybe professional poker would be a winner?

My reasoning is first, that a model will likely already fully understand the reality that poker has a positive expectation if you have an edge but is volatile and they won't be fazed by it.

Having outside investors and networking with other model-players for information, advice and risk-sharing would seriously improve the mean/variance. And it diversifies from cam modeling.


Just a rough idea, you understand. What do you think?