I don't get it ?

[Azhrarn]

You're sort of looking at it completely backwards. It's because "bootyholios" are meant for "other stuff" that certain guys really get off on this. In another thread I commented that most porn is created by men who hate women, and I had geniuses argue my point, saying that porn was created by men who just don't care about women.

The absolute phrases in bold were the main thing that bothered us, and I didn't see the thread regarding porn, but you came off as a very arrogant know-it-all afterward. There can be many reasons why different people enjoy the same fetish. I know I'm sounding like one myself as I type thing explaining little things like that, but there are quite a few who come to this forum, and automatically think we're bad people after making posts like this that are rather attacking-sounding. Like hapa74 said it's a two-way street. We're willing to play nice if you don't seem to be playing mean first.

"Most porn", "Certain guys", "You're sort of looking at it completely backwards." - None of these are absolute phrases. All of these are general statements which are extremely easy to back up. You can easily find websites of girls getting fucked in the ass with no lube and no preparation, girls being face fucked until they're choking and crying, girls getting fucked while they're too drunk to even stand up straight... You want to argue the difference between hatred and total indifference, go ahead. To me that's just semantics. The point I was making, it that there's a lot of porn out there that is clearly, undeniably misogynistic. And practices like anal sex and ATM are a part of it. The people making the "absolute" statements are the ones who are saying that just because they and their sex partner don't engage in anal sex for misogynistic reasons must mean that no one else does either, and not only that, but that no one else is even allowed to suggest otherwise. As for example, JickyJuly. I don't understand how one person giving their opinion on a forum, when forums generally exist for that primary purpose, somehow means that I'm imposing my viewpoint on anyone else. This is something I've said before. You don't like my opinion, fine. You want to criticize my opinion, fine. But don't tell me I'm not allowed to have my own opinion or to state my own opinion because then you would be imposing your beliefs upon me.

 

[Nordling]

You're sort of looking at it completely backwards. It's because "bootyholios" are meant for "other stuff" that certain guys really get off on this. In another thread I commented that most porn is created by men who hate women, and I had geniuses argue my point, saying that porn was created by men who just don't care about women.

The absolute phrases in bold were the main thing that bothered us, and I didn't see the thread regarding porn, but you came off as a very arrogant know-it-all afterward. There can be many reasons why different people enjoy the same fetish. I know I'm sounding like one myself as I type thing explaining little things like that, but there are quite a few who come to this forum, and automatically think we're bad people after making posts like this that are rather attacking-sounding. Like hapa74 said it's a two-way street. We're willing to play nice if you don't seem to be playing mean first.

"Most porn", "Certain guys", "You're sort of looking at it completely backwards." - None of these are absolute phrases. All of these are general statements which are extremely easy to back up. You can easily find websites of girls getting fucked in the ass with no lube and no preparation, girls being face fucked until they're choking and crying, girls getting fucked while they're too drunk to even stand up straight... You want to argue the difference between hatred and total indifference, go ahead. To me that's just semantics. The point I was making, it that there's a lot of porn out there that is clearly, undeniably misogynistic. And practices like anal sex and ATM are a part of it. The people making the "absolute" statements are the ones who are saying that just because they and their sex partner don't engage in anal sex for misogynistic reasons must mean that no one else does either, and not only that, but that no one else is even allowed to suggest otherwise. As for example, JickyJuly. I don't understand how one person giving their opinion on a forum, when forums generally exist for that primary purpose, somehow means that I'm imposing my viewpoint on anyone else. This is something I've said before. You don't like my opinion, fine. You want to criticize my opinion, fine. But don't tell me I'm not allowed to have my own opinion or to state my own opinion because then you would be imposing your beliefs upon me.

When people state opinions, they are stating their view of the nature of reality, but they are not stating fact. If someone disagrees with your opinion they have every right to state their opinion in disagreement to yours. They aren't "disallowing" you to have an opinion, they are simply answering it. If you want everyone to agree with your opinion, then it is you who is trying to impose your beliefs.

Hint: if you don't want to be tackled on the first yard line, then don''t generalize and don't deny it when you do.

 

[JoleneBrody]

this made me SO happy!

 

[BlairLuxe]

I might be coming to this party a little late...

I don't know, but I've never rimmed or been rimmed by someone who hated me.

 

[eclipse76]

I post from the standpoint of a “normal” heterosexual male.

You really think you can speak for heterosexual males?! Are you that arrogant?! Why do you think the other straight men of this forum are laughing at your ludicrous posts?

This forum is supposed to be about MFC, which is a cam girl website. So if anyone wants to discuss gay sex or gay anything, look elsewhere,

Fuck you. This forum is about camming, not MFC. There are Chaturbate models, Streamate models and there are some male models like Deez. And I'm pretty sure we have lesbians and bisexuals members who shall feel free and comfortable to discuss their sexuality here if they wish too. It's not a straight male forum.

My opinion of most pornography being misogynistic is simply the result of personal observation; and if you want to narrow the discussion to MFC and cam girls, then I would say that the ways that male posters on this forum are typically treated is pretty revealing with regards to how cam girls perceive themselves, their profession, and their male regulars. There’s no need for me to make an argument when it’s already being made for me by others so eloquently.

I don't get your point? Male posters of this forum are treated extremely well in regards to what they post (especially you right now), a lot would have been kicked out or ignored for being pain in the ass on other less forgiving places.

I was referring to “ordinary" guys who would never sign a contract, never respect a “safe word” and who find women who aren’t going to bother them with such niceties. If you want to argue that all MFC cam girls (and their partners) are too enlightened to fit within the scope of my remarks, well, take a look out there at the broader world. It isn’t all sunshine and roses.

I certainly don't share your views of what "ordinary guys" are, I think it's more telling about your own opinions regarding boundaries and consent.

 

[TacoBelle]

This forum isn't about MFC. If you look at the top banner, it says

AmberCutie's Forum
A place where cam girls and cam site members can discuss all things!

So, deduced from that, we have learned that it's perfectly OKAY to discuss all things on here. Discuss being the key word. To discuss is to calmly present your case while still being open and supportive of other viewpoints. It is NOT OKAY to act as though your opinion is the only viewpoint that is of import. It is also NOT OKAY to belittle and depreciate others because they do not agree.

I do think it's hilarious that you keep throwing out the whole "DON'T TELL ME WHAT I CAN AND CAN'T TALK ABOUT" when you did the very same thing to us here:

So if anyone wants to discuss gay sex or gay anything, look elsewhere.

I'll just end this post with a quote from a semi-famous MFC member, "Do you prefer gay ass-licking or lesbian ass-licking?"

 

[JoleneBrody]

I'll just end this post with a quote from a semi-famous MFC member, "Do you prefer gay ass-licking or lesbian ass-licking?"

oh fuck oh fuck oh fuck I spilled my coffee!

 

[Leon_Omega]

I was referring to “ordinary" guys who would never sign a contract, never respect a “safe word” and who find women who aren’t going to bother them with such niceties.

I'm sorry, but are you trying to insinuate that "ordinary" guys are incapable of being respectful unless contractually obligated?

Because that's not describing an ordinary guy, that's describing a sociopath.

Also, the men I see regularly on this forum are all treated with the same respect and judged by the content of their posts, not by their internal waste management system.

 

[TacoBelle]

not by their internal waste management system.

Pfft, I judge every person on here by the length of their small intestine. See, size DOES matter!

 

[JimsX]

not by their internal waste management system.

Pfft, I judge every person on here by the length of their small intestine. See, size DOES matter!

I KNEW my ex was lying!! :crybaby:

 

[Johndoe91]

not by their internal waste management system.

Pfft, I judge every person on here by the length of their small intestine. See, size DOES matter!

Hey bb, wanna look at my MRI?

you won't be dissapointed

 

[Nordling]

not by their internal waste management system.

Pfft, I judge every person on here by the length of their small intestine. See, size DOES matter!

Hey bb, wanna look at my MRI?

you won't be dissapointed

:lol: Claims don't carry water unless you insert the phrase, "trust me."

 

[LilyMarie]

Something I don't get: finding onesies sexy.
Onesies are a huge thing on MFC and girls look adorable in them, but also... the opposite of sexy. In my opinion. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[hontom]

Something I don't get: finding onesies sexy.
Onesies are a huge thing on MFC and girls look adorable in them, but also... the opposite of sexy. In my opinion. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Sometimes adorable can be sexy.

 

[Johndoe91]

I don't get why there are so many non-american models that wear american flag clothing on cam, especially when their profile says they're from Romania/Russia/wherever. Just seems odd

 

[TacoBelle]

I don't get why there are so many non-american models that wear american flag clothing on cam, especially when their profile says they're from Romania/Russia/wherever. Just seems odd

Maybe it's like Americans who wear the Union Jack? Just a style choice that they think looks cool?

 

[Sevrin]

I don't get why there are so many non-american models that wear american flag clothing on cam, especially when their profile says they're from Romania/Russia/wherever. Just seems odd

Maybe it's like Americans who wear the Union Jack? Just a style choice that they think looks cool?

Two more reasons:
1. Many foreigners aspire to living in the U.S. Compared to Romania or Russia, life is pretty sweet there.
2. They might think their tips will improve if they appeal to American chauvinism.

 

[ComicOzzie]

I don't get why there are so many non-american models that wear american flag clothing on cam, especially when their profile says they're from Romania/Russia/wherever. Just seems odd

Maybe 90% of their tippers are Americans?

:handgestures-salute:

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

I don't get why there are so many non-american models that wear american flag clothing on cam, especially when their profile says they're from Romania/Russia/wherever. Just seems odd

Maybe 90% of their tippers are Americans?

:handgestures-salute:

I am sure the percentage of American tippers is very high, but probably not 90%. Just curious do many models make say 1/2 of their income from non US members?

 

[JoleneBrody]

I don't get why there are so many non-american models that wear american flag clothing on cam, especially when their profile says they're from Romania/Russia/wherever. Just seems odd

Maybe 90% of their tippers are Americans?

:handgestures-salute:

I am sure the percentage of American tippers is very high, but probably not 90%. Just curious do many models make say 1/2 of their income from non US members?

No way. I would say 98% for me is American.

 

[mynameisbob84]

A not-even-remotely-scientific breakdown of what-nationality-tips-who (that I've observed in the rooms I've frequented)...

American models -

90% American tippers
9% British tippers
1% European/Other tippers

British models -

70% British tippers
20% American tippers
9% European tippers
1% Other tippers

European models -

50% European tippers
25% American tippers
24% British tippers
1% Other tippers

Romanian models -

60% American tippers
20% European tippers
19% British tippers
1% Other tippers

 

[VeronicaChaos]

It also depends on when you cam. I have a surprising amount of non-American cam-friends. I think for me it probably is closer to 50/50, at least for guys that I know and stuff. That number is probably different for fly-by tippers and what-not, depending on how late it is.

 

[Leon_Omega]

It also depends on when you cam. I have a surprising amount of non-American cam-friends. I think for me it probably is closer to 50/50, at least for guys that I know and stuff. That number is probably different for fly-by tippers and what-not, depending on how late it is.

pretty much, and when you realize that Romania's time zone means that their morning corresponds to evening across the US, that means they won't have the same problem I have with many American models due to your evenings being my middle-of-the-nights.

I don't get why there are so many non-american models that wear american flag clothing on cam, especially when their profile says they're from Romania/Russia/wherever. Just seems odd

Maybe it's like Americans who wear the Union Jack? Just a style choice that they think looks cool?

I'd also second this one - a lot of people here wear both Union Jacka and US flags simply because they like the design. It doesn't seem to happen nearly as much with other flags for some reason.

 

[Cereborn]

I'm clearly late to this party, but I might as well throw in my :twocents-02cents:

I'm a big fan of porn, up to and including some pretty extreme fetish porn. But I look for girls who are really into what they're doing, and not being forced to do it. I agree there is some pretty despicable porn videos out there where the girls are being legitimately abused, and I'm often frustrated by the difficulty in finding fetish porn videos where there isn't a guy hurling insults from behind the camera. That's why Kink.com is great. They include those before and after interviews that clearly establish the performer knows what she's getting into and she enjoys it.


But back on topic, I never really got panty-selling. What do people do with them? Do they jack off with them? Because once you've done that, the panties are kind of ruined, aren't they? I had a model once PM to ask if I wanted to buy some panties, and I had to be like, "Sorry. That's really not my jam."

 

[SaffronBurke]

I'm clearly late to this party, but I might as well throw in my :twocents-02cents:

I'm a big fan of porn, up to and including some pretty extreme fetish porn. But I look for girls who are really into what they're doing, and not being forced to do it. I agree there is some pretty despicable porn videos out there where the girls are being legitimately abused, and I'm often frustrated by the difficulty in finding fetish porn videos where there isn't a guy hurling insults from behind the camera. That's why Kink.com is great. They include those before and after interviews that clearly establish the performer knows what she's getting into and she enjoys it.


But back on topic, I never really got panty-selling. What do people do with them? Do they jack off with them? Because once you've done that, the panties are kind of ruined, aren't they? I had a model once PM to ask if I wanted to buy some panties, and I had to be like, "Sorry. That's really not my jam."

Some like to wrap them around their dick, if they're a silky material, while others like to sniff them. Some just see it as a personal keepsake.

 

[gingerhobbit]

I'm clearly late to this party, but I might as well throw in my :twocents-02cents:

I'm a big fan of porn, up to and including some pretty extreme fetish porn. But I look for girls who are really into what they're doing, and not being forced to do it. I agree there is some pretty despicable porn videos out there where the girls are being legitimately abused, and I'm often frustrated by the difficulty in finding fetish porn videos where there isn't a guy hurling insults from behind the camera. That's why Kink.com is great. They include those before and after interviews that clearly establish the performer knows what she's getting into and she enjoys it.


But back on topic, I never really got panty-selling. What do people do with them? Do they jack off with them? Because once you've done that, the panties are kind of ruined, aren't they? I had a model once PM to ask if I wanted to buy some panties, and I had to be like, "Sorry. That's really not my jam."

My ex and I used to do this because we had to be apart for a few months every year. It was just a sexy little thing that kept us connected, and I liked having the scent of her around. Same reason I liked it when she sent me things with her Chanel No. 5 on them.

But, that was two people in a relationship. Buying panties from a stranger doesn't make a lot of sense to me, unless for these guys, it's part of a fantasy relationship he has with the model. And that idea just screams 'stranger danger!'

 

[DuoShi]

It's probably my inexperience talking, but I don't get it when a girl moans during a tit fuck. I figured the guy would be the one moaning a bunch. Is it that arousing for you?

 

[dilligaf0]

A not-even-remotely-scientific breakdown of what-nationality-tips-who (that I've observed in the rooms I've frequented)...

American models -

90% American tippers
9% British tippers
1% European/Other tippers

British models -

70% British tippers
20% American tippers
9% European tippers
1% Other tippers

European models -

50% European tippers
25% American tippers
24% British tippers
1% Other tippers

Romanian models -

60% American tippers
20% European tippers
19% British tippers
1% Other tippers

I'm confused by "other tippers".
Martians?
:lol:

 

[AerynShade]

A not-even-remotely-scientific breakdown of what-nationality-tips-who (that I've observed in the rooms I've frequented)...

American models -

90% American tippers
9% British tippers
1% European/Other tippers

British models -

70% British tippers
20% American tippers
9% European tippers
1% Other tippers

European models -

50% European tippers
25% American tippers
24% British tippers
1% Other tippers

Romanian models -

60% American tippers
20% European tippers
19% British tippers
1% Other tippers

I'm confused by "other tippers".
Martians?
:lol:

Asian, Australian, Middle Eastern, African, Central/South American. (I'm assuming Bob meant American as in USA, not the continent, apologies if you meant otherwise Bob.)

 

[Sevrin]

Asian, Australian, Middle Eastern, African, Central/South American. (I'm assuming Bob meant American as in USA, not the continent, apologies if you meant otherwise Bob.)

These folks are chatting way above their weight. I'm pretty sure the Aussies and ME pervs between them do way more than 1% of the tipping, though. Also everyone forgets Canadians.