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Jillybean said:
Airwolfe said:
I'm pretty sure MFC deleted your account because you are fucking stupid.
I just have to say if AmberCutie "thanked" a post like this directed at me I would cry for days.
If you were encouraging the sexualization of innocent animals I would think those tears were well earned. :twocents-02cents:
 
JoleneBrody said:
Jillybean said:
Airwolfe said:
I'm pretty sure MFC deleted your account because you are fucking stupid.
I just have to say if AmberCutie "thanked" a post like this directed at me I would cry for days.
If you were encouraging the sexualization of innocent animals I would think those tears were well earned. :twocents-02cents:
Oh I totally agree with that; Stardust is a sick moron!

ETA: And he/she deserved to get banned. Unless he/she never existed on MFC and is just doing this for attention, which I think is the case since he/she is still posting new threads about this.
 
MFC Wiki said:
Forbidden Things

The following things, actual, implied or offered, are absolutely forbidden on this website at any time and for any reason, in both private and public chat.

Most of them constitute Zero-Tolerance violations which means you will be banned the first time it happens.

And even if your account is re-instated, you will LOSE THE TOKENS that you earned by breaking the rules so there is absolutely no point to breaking these rules.

  • -Men on camera for any reason. Men should not even be in the same room as you!
    -Sexual relations with men, even off-camera.
    -Minors, children, babies; may not be on camera or in the same room.
    -Unauthorized persons (persons for whom we do not have proper name and ID on file.)
    -Bestiality, or animals/pets on camera in a sexual or provocative context.
    -Urination, defecation, "going to the bathroom", enema play, vomiting.
    -Breastfeeding or lactation.
    -Menstrual bleeding.
    -Illegal drugs, or drugs that may be perceived as illegal in other locations. (e.g. Medicinal marijuana)
    -Excessive consumption of alcohol or other legal or prescribed medicines or narcotics.
    -Sleeping, "passing out".
    -Hypnosis
    -Rape
    -Incest (sexual relations involving family members). Family members should not appear on camera together.
    -Penetration of the vagina or anus with items not meant for sexual stimulation (e.g. bottles, baseball bats).
    -Fisting.
    -Violence, blood, torture, pain, erotic asphyxiation, or any actions associated with bringing harm to yourself in any way.
    -Discussing or arranging prostitution or escort services.
    -Illegal or unsafe activity of any kind.
    -Actions that may be deemed obscene in your community.

Oh yeah, and MFC is a real stickler for enforcing those rules. Yep. Not inconsistent about that at all. :roll:
 
It's an interesting point some posters have made about simply discussing the forbidden acts. On ImLive a model can get in trouble simply for having "I don't do schoolgirl roleplay" on her profile. ImLive said that if you make any mention of 'school girl' stuff on your profile at all, you MUST put "18+" next to it. I once got a "warning" from ImLive because I mentioned on my profile that I have a school girl miniskirt. A lot of other models got that same warning too, threatening suspension/banning if it happens again.
 
zippypinhead said:
MFC Wiki said:
Forbidden Things

The following things, actual, implied or offered, are absolutely forbidden on this website at any time and for any reason, in both private and public chat.

Most of them constitute Zero-Tolerance violations which means you will be banned the first time it happens.

And even if your account is re-instated, you will LOSE THE TOKENS that you earned by breaking the rules so there is absolutely no point to breaking these rules.

  • -Men on camera for any reason. Men should not even be in the same room as you!
    -Sexual relations with men, even off-camera.
    -Minors, children, babies; may not be on camera or in the same room.
    -Unauthorized persons (persons for whom we do not have proper name and ID on file.)
    -Bestiality, or animals/pets on camera in a sexual or provocative context.
    -Urination, defecation, "going to the bathroom", enema play, vomiting.
    -Breastfeeding or lactation.
    -Menstrual bleeding.
    -Illegal drugs, or drugs that may be perceived as illegal in other locations. (e.g. Medicinal marijuana)
    -Excessive consumption of alcohol or other legal or prescribed medicines or narcotics.
    -Sleeping, "passing out".
    -Hypnosis
    -Rape
    -Incest (sexual relations involving family members). Family members should not appear on camera together.
    -Penetration of the vagina or anus with items not meant for sexual stimulation (e.g. bottles, baseball bats).
    -Fisting.
    -Violence, blood, torture, pain, erotic asphyxiation, or any actions associated with bringing harm to yourself in any way.
    -Discussing or arranging prostitution or escort services.
    -Illegal or unsafe activity of any kind.
    -Actions that may be deemed obscene in your community.

Oh yeah, and MFC is a real stickler for enforcing those rules. Yep. Not inconsistent about that at all. :roll:

I hope they're pretty consistent about the illegal stuff. Not having the proper documentation on file to show that a performer is of age can get a site shut down pretty quickly. It's probably safe to say that extreme violence or rape would bring about the same results.
 
Granted, I'm no expert, but the only thing I've seen MFC enforce with any consistency is the rule against men appearing on cam.
 
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zippypinhead said:
Granted, I'm no expert, but the only thing I've seen MFC enforce with any consistency is the rule against men appearing on cam.

they enforce the bestiality and underage/incest roleplay. I've had warnings for doing very very little (reading a dirty story about a daddy/little relationship, in which it was stated at teh start all parties were over 18 and not related, and that it was NOT an incest story)
 
I know from browsing MFC a lot that they do strictly enforce at least certain rules as others have mentioned. Guys on cam and the ones Lolli mentioned are slam dunks from what I have seen. IF you happen to catch one it usually doesn't take long before the feed and profile are gone. The OP admitted to breaking the rules so I figured that was what happened with her and I'm not sure why she doesn't seem to believe it? She was a model on MFC or at least the name was. The profile is cached and is dated 3/30 and the model was last on MFC on 3/29.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...ms.com/Stardust1234+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

There is also a post from the OP on this person's profile. The post is still there.

http://profiles.myfreecams.com/jessica_69uk

You broke the rules so they banned you. You just need to move on and find another site.
 
emptiedglass said:
I hope they're pretty consistent about the illegal stuff. Not having the proper documentation on file to show that a performer is of age can get a site shut down pretty quickly. It's probably safe to say that extreme violence or rape would bring about the same results.

Miss_Lollipop said:
zippypinhead said:
Granted, I'm no expert, but the only thing I've seen MFC enforce with any consistency is the rule against men appearing on cam.

they enforce the bestiality and underage/incest roleplay. I've had warnings for doing very very little (reading a dirty story about a daddy/little relationship, in which it was stated at teh start all parties were over 18 and not related, and that it was NOT an incest story)

Brad said:
I know from browsing MFC a lot that they do strictly enforce at least certain rules as others have mentioned. Guys on cam and the ones Lolli mentioned are slam dunks from what I have seen. IF you happen to catch one it usually doesn't take long before the feed and profile are gone. The OP admitted to breaking the rules so I figured that was what happened with her and I'm not sure why she doesn't seem to believe it?

As far as I'm concerned (not that my opinion on this matter bears any weight) the inconsistency of enforcement is still inexcusable. There's a list of 20 infractions there, many of which are expanded to include sub-infractions, yet only about half a dozen actually regularly result in disciplinary actions? If you're going to provide rules, and provide consequences when those rules are broken, then see to it that the consequences are carried out. Otherwise, it just sends mixed signals that unfairly impact a model's income. I mean, really, it's alright to smoke pot and take shots while fucking a bedpost as a guest model paddles your ass with a cricket bat until you "squirt" urine, but moaning the word "daddy" or comparing the bedpost to a horse cock will be what gets you banned? Gimme a break.

And since I've taken the trouble to climb up on my soapbox, let me just point out that those rules are also incredibly ambiguous, as is evidenced by this very situation, which is also harmful to models. She didn't admit to committing acts of bestiality or incest. She admitted to talking about them. Where in the rules does it say just talking about it gets you banned? Oh, right, it doesn't. What it does say (in sentence fragments, no less) is, "Bestiality, or animals/pets on camera in a sexual or provocative context," and, "Incest (sexual relations involving family members). Family members should not appear on camera together." What I take that to mean is don't fuck Fido or sister Mabel on cam. Since, by its literal wording, the subject of spoken fantasy play is completely unmentioned, that is the only way that it could reasonably be interpreted as. So, she didn't break the rules as they are written. But let's take a look at something else, here, which I find interesting:

"Sexual relations with men, even off-camera."

So... what the fuck does that mean? Does it mean that any girl who has a husband or boyfriend can't cam on MFC? I sure hope not, especially since there's a listed marital status on the MFC profile. Does this mean that any model who posts a M/F video for sale is subject to banning? It sure could be interpreted that way.

I understand that it was a bit annoying for this girl to come in here and post the same question in broken English to two separate threads, and I understand that it's also a bit annoying that she doesn't seem to get that she was banned for some sort of unlisted infraction, even though it has been explained to her succinctly several times. However, what I suspect is one of two situations: either we aren't getting the full story, or this girl finds herself in a situation that any one of you could easily find yourself in, because these rules are neither written nor executed with any sort of consistency. Maybe it's the former, and I doubt we'll ever really get to the bottom of the situation. But even so, I see no situation where the latter doesn't play a part. This is concerning to me, and I'm just a member -- I just show up and throw tokens to make naked ladies dance. If I was a model, and I was putting my investment and my livelihood at the mercy of the whims of a company that makes up rules that make no sense and that it has no intentions of following, I'd be incensed.
 
The very first line is:

The following things, actual, implied or offered

bestiality being talked about can be interpreted as offering bestiality. So yes, talking about it is listed as a bannable offense, unless it's to say "I don't do that."

But, everything else you said I totally agree with.
 
Sure it *can* be interpreted that way, considering the intentional breadth of interpretability to this sort of language. It's still a stretch, in my opinion, and it still doesn't address the fact that even other forms "implied" or "offered" acts depicting sex with animals (furry cosplay, plushie acts) seem to be perfectly acceptable, so the line is not adequately defined, either by the language of the rules or by disciplinary actions taken.

It's all just such a clusterfuck that even if people are trying to play by the rules, incidental happenings coupled with an admin with an itchy trigger finger could get a girl banned and have her earnings revoked without recourse and without explanation. That's simply not ethical, and it's not a good-faith way to treat the people who are putting money in your pockets. Legitimate businesses are specific and consistent with their rules. This is an example wherein a business is neither.
 
It's crazy that on a site where public chat "rules" are broken everyday, they'd actually make a fuss about simply catching a model saying "I don't do _____ (insert forbidden sex acts)." I'm glad that we're having this conversation on here though, so that I know, for future reference, to NOT repeat back "No, I don't do _____." Instead I'll just have to say "No, I don't do that and can't discuss that here." The thing about it is when people making weird-ass requests do leave the room, other members in the room tend to still talk about that dude after he leaves. So now I'm gonna have to be like "Okay, guys, let's change the subject and not talk about that." Shit, I love MFC, and I'm not about to get suspended/banned just for telling some weirdo about things I don't do...smh.
 
yummybrownfox said:
It's crazy that on a site where public chat "rules" are broken everyday, they'd actually make a fuss about simply catching a model saying "I don't do _____ (insert forbidden sex acts)." I'm glad that we're having this conversation on here though, so that I know, for future reference, to NOT repeat back "No, I don't do _____." Instead I'll just have to say "No, I don't do that and can't discuss that here." The thing about it is when people making weird-ass requests do leave the room, other members in the room tend to still talk about that dude after he leaves. So now I'm gonna have to be like "Okay, guys, let's change the subject and not talk about that." Shit, I love MFC, and I'm not about to get suspended/banned just for telling some weirdo about things I don't do...smh.
Yes, and to limit conversation with flakey, ill-defined rules has the same effect on a room as a bucket of ice water thrown on someone. It leaves rooms with the choice of not talking at all or filling the "air" with junk talk... the "mmmmm's," "i liek ur tits bb," and such homelies as "i wont 2 reck ur butthole bb."
 
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Personally, I'm not going to worry about changing anything I do or don't do. I already try to get guys to stop talking about the weirdo. I did take the parody of the disney songs off my playlist cause too many people hear the music and don't listen to the words (seriously, a whole nude world and dirty little mermaid are awesome songs...). And I've never heard of a girl being banned for saying "I don't do bestiality" or "I don't do daddy play" (Shit I had them under the "I will not do these and will ban for talking about them" section on my profile for the longest time...). So I'm not worried about those either.

I do wish they'd be more clear about the rules, but it's not because I have a problem with them. It's because any native English speaker will understand where that line is, but anyone who isn't a native English speaker or who grew up in a different culture probably won't know it. But most of us will understand what they mean.

Also, the bit where they say that we can't OFFER it is where the talking about it comes in. Not just the implied. Saying "Sure, I'll call you Daddy" is explicitly offering it, and is against the rules. However, if you never actually type it, you will probably never be caught by it. After all, they can't search spoken word for certain words yet.
 
Not for worry of being banned, but for personal preference, I refuse to thank by name anyone with the word "daddy" in their name on MFC. I'll use another part of their name to refer to them, or just plainly say "thank you" if they tip me or compliment me.

Once upon a time, I was ok with school girl type role play, especially with a certain very friendly regular I had, in which I would use that word. Then I realized it made me feel strange, and decided to change my ways. I've changed the way I address him and he understands, and it hasn't been a problem since then.

I may occasionally wear a plaid skirt and button up white shirt and do a school girl theme outfit, but there is no age-play that goes with it. Just a look. That's pretty much as far as I'll go.

This whole post was just a tad off-topic, but I felt like saying it. ;)
 
LadyLuna said:
Also, the bit where they say that we can't OFFER it is where the talking about it comes in. Not just the implied. Saying "Sure, I'll call you Daddy" is explicitly offering it, and is against the rules. However, if you never actually type it, you will probably never be caught by it. After all, they can't search spoken word for certain words yet.

Rumour has it they'll be announcing it in another 51 weeks. But it all hinges on the success or failure of Google Nose. ;)
 
Locking this and the other IDENTICAL thread about it since OP hasn't been back in a while and hopefully has learned from her mistakes and understands what she did is a permanently bannable offense.
 
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