How I Built Mt Cam Site

[AnonyMouse]

As per my last post which you clearly didn't understand I'll put it a bit simpler for you.
You're not being very truthful.
You have been around for the last 5 years using diff domain names doing this.
Answer this one question, do you have your own dedicated server that you have full control over ?

 

[camscapade]

Thanks MojtosJourney,

I will take your advice. Just to be clear, I have never asked for anyone to join our site, become a member, or buy my stuff. My " A day in the life" post was meant to be an entertaining look into what I have gone through being new to the adult entertainment industry. It was definitely taken in the wrong way by quite a few people here. But I suppose when you put yourself out there to the public you have to take the criticism as well as the compliments. I will state for the record I am not a troll, a monster, or someone trying to gain performers or members. Just a guy that thought he had something entertaining to share. I do think that you are right in the statement that this forum might not be the best place for me to make friends. I am thankful for people like you that have a kind word to say, and I have found that to be the case in most people, just not here. This will be my last post here however I really and truly have enjoyed our conversation. I thank you for your well wishes towards my success and return them to you by wishing you the same. please feel free to contact me anytime, I would look forward to developing a friendship in the future. I can be reached at any of the contact venues below.

D.Parker
Camscapade.com
@camscapade
Camscapadediary.blog
d.parker@camscapade.com

 

[camscapade]

As per my last post which you clearly didn't understand I'll put it a bit simpler for you.
You're not being very truthful.
You have been around for the last 5 years using diff domain names doing this.
Answer this one question, do you have your own dedicated server that you have full control over ?

LOL I have not been around for 5 years. 5 months is more like it. first lets distinguish what you are asking, are you referring to a dedicated secure server. No I do not own a server, like most start up companies on the internet, i rent a dedicated server from a larger company. I rent from Modena my server. Howeer I think that you are talking about the software. So let me get into that. if you are referring to the date stamp on the site when we put it up for performer input the copyright did read 2012, that is correct for the base software sold by Modena ( the company sells Turn-Key software and rents server space) We are in the process of switching to GoDaddy for our server because ofthier SSL features. My company is Roda Media LLC. this is public record you can look it up yourself. The business license date should vindicate me of you accusation. our DBA is Camscapade. now the software is a turn-key software that i do regret buying at the advice of our first programers. we are on our 5th set of designer/prpgramers since i started this journey. the software has its faults and we have invested quite a bit of money in order o upgrade and or fix the bugs that are in it. this includes a refacing of the software as well. if you would like to take a look and do a comparison please go to their website and you can see where it started and where we have brought it to.

Modena Cam: https://www.modenacam.com/modenacam_demo

that is the link is to the demo site but please feel free to explore the rest of the site. I did visit a few of the sites you listed in your last post, and yes i see they too bought the same Turn-Key software that we did. they didn't do any upgrades to their software. They should have, in-fact Modena recommends it. You can download a demo for free yourself if you like before you purchase and check it out. and your demo along with your purchased product will say 2012 as well until you hire a programer to change it. the cost $450.00 to change the date, the software package is a little over $2000 , but you should expect to invest at least another $5000 to get it functional and up to speed for todays market. The software was designed in 2012 and the internet and how it delivers information has changed dramatically in the last 5 years. we continue to upgrade the software and the design to meet with todays market. The new program interrogations and design are proprietary to Roda Media LLC.

I have to assume in your diligent research on building a Live Cam site you might have glanced over the "Turn-Key" concept. The software that most companies start with as a base and then upgrade the facing and software to become the sites you know today. Many fail to upgrade and thats why many fail. so if you take a look at at the Modena software and then take a look at our site Im sure you will see some differences.

Camscapade: Camscapade.com

I would love to continue this conversation at any point in time after you have done some looking into your accusations. If you want the truth just check out what I've told you above, and you don't have to take my word you can actually see for yourself. I do not expect a retraction on your " not being truthful" statement however I do hope that you take the time to educate yourself in regards to building a Live Streaming Web Site beyond this post. If this post is a starting point that takes you to the next level of understanding then i wish you well. so to recap...

1) I do not own a server, I am not GoDaddy, or have that kind of capital to own a server. Do you understand how much it costs to build a server?

2) yes i did buy a "Turn-Key" software program to start my business

3) I have been working on this site for 5 months not 5 years and have public legal record proof that you can look up.

4) I believe if you wanted to put in the time, you can trace domain names to their owners. Trace a few of the ones you listed and trace my mine. you will see they are different countries and different people or organizations. All people who bought the same software I did. The information Below should be all you need to track my company, or any other companies that I have owned, but ill tell you the list is very short, in fact its only 1.

D.Parker
Roda Media LLC
DBA Camscapade
Atlanta Ga.

You can contact me anytime you want.
D.Parker@camscapade.com

I look forward to hearing from you. I would love to know how your research went.

 

[AerynShade]

I do think that you are right in the statement that this forum might not be the best place for me to make friends.

If you want to be more part of the community you should venture into threads about topics other than your site.

 

[camscapade]

I do. However thank you just the same for your advice. Once agin it is very nice, and rare to to see constructive comments. Mostly IO've gotten, WTF, you're going to fail, superlative, superlative, false accusations and name calling. So Maybe you are correct, I can meet nice people here in the business. I suppose you just have to tough-skin it through the greeting committee LOL.

D.P.

 

[AnonyMouse]

Ok so your a CEO of a newly formed US LLC company. Sorry to tell you that means nothing.
Any Tom, Dick or Harry can do this. It gives no true standing to the person/s behind the company and their financial standing.
Only now after many questions do you actually reveal who's behind the brand.

1) I do not own a server, I am not GoDaddy, or have that kind of capital to own a server. Do you understand how much it costs to build a server?

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Yes I do actually. I have built and configured many bare metal servers over the years, so I am fully aware of the cost.
What I cant understand is you splash out $5k+ on lawyers and $2k on software yet cant afford servers that would be around $200 a month leased.

your demo along with your purchased product will say 2012 as well until you hire a programer to
change it. the cost $450.00 to change the date, the software package is a little over $2000

I'm also fully aware of what the software is. If you paid a programmer $450 to change the date in that software all i can say is whoever you paid was laughing
his ass off. That code takes less than 5 mins to change.

now the software is a turn-key software that i do regret buying at the advice of our first programers. we are on our 5th set of designer/prpgramers since i started this journey

Sums up a lot without me even commenting

I have to assume in your diligent research on building a Live Cam site you might have glanced over the "Turn-Key" concept.
The software that most companies start with as a base and then upgrade the facing and software to become the sites you know
today. Many fail to upgrade and thats why many fail. so if you take a look at at the Modena software and then take a look
at our site Im sure you will see some differences.

Clearly I do more research than you. Firstly just by looking at their site you can see it's not been updated in years.
Secondly this software requires Flash Media Server software on a separate server from the main site. Another $4500
Thirdly around september time Chrome browser will no longer support flash based websites.
So I'm taking it you are the one who has not done any research at all.

I do hope that you take the time to educate yourself in regards to building a Live Streaming Web Site

I think you should take your own advice.

The most worrying part of what you have said is you lack of capital, if you can't fund even your own servers your going to have huge problems finding a
payment processor company for one and would I trust you to pay on time what you owe ?

You might be totally a genuine guy I don't know but you come across as a " Fool " Sorry to use harsh words but that's the way you come across

 

[AnonyMouse]

For the technically minded I just read thro modenacam install instructions

(make sure you recursively chmod to 777 this directory!)

That's as safe as a chocolate tea pot

 

[Puffin]

Weell, the base programming for our site was recommended and purchased. the recomedation came from our first web designer. am i very happy with the frame work? no. but i assure you money has been spent.

IMHO, you are happy with something that it somewhat poor.

 

[AnonyMouse]

Yes your framework on modenacam is a great choice, nice to see it uses codeigniter thats so old and not open to any form of RCA vulnerabilities

https://www.scambook.com/company/view/15323/ModenaCam

My diligent research seems better than yours.

BTW: Who are the "professional Live Cam Models that are there Vetting the site" ?

 

[camscapade]

IMHO, you are happy with something that it somewhat poor.

I'm not happy with it. I answered the question right after with (no)

 

[Puffin]

I'm not happy with it. I answered the question right after with (no)

Okay, my bad. Was reading with rhetorical sarcasm on.

 

[justjoinedtopost]

” The Adult entertainment industry in the past year grossed 13 billion dollars, 1.9 Billion of that revenue is attributed to Live Streaming Cam based websites.” That not only got my attention, but has kept it up until this day.

U.S. Publishing Industry’s Annual Survey Reveals Nearly $28 Billion in Revenue in 2015

(just in case this camsite idea doesn't work out for you)

 

[Puffin]

I do. However thank you just the same for your advice. Once agin it is very nice, and rare to to see constructive comments. Mostly IO've gotten, WTF, you're going to fail, superlative, superlative, false accusations and name calling. So Maybe you are correct, I can meet nice people here in the business. I suppose you just have to tough-skin it through the greeting committee LOL.

D.P.

Well, you've been pretty open so I'd like share some thoughts.

The bar to entry to establish a successful new cam site is very high. The technical stuff for the site it not such a big deal as some are making out. Yes, upgraded tech is required, but it's not going to be the critical factor. The crux of launching a succesful cam site is being able to get lots of traffic to convert to members. Without the traffic any models aren't going to stick around for long. Also the timing of bringing traffic and models to the site has to match up.

For a new site, traffic normally comes from routing traffic from elsewhere, such as a big existing site, (i.e a porn site) or attract popular models that brings enough existing tippers from other sites. Either way it requires large dollars to pay to bring traffic, especially english speaking traffic, the most desirable part of the cam market.

 

[AnonyMouse]

Well, you've been pretty open so I'd like share some thoughts.

The bar to entry to establish a successful new cam site is very high. The technical stuff for the site it not such a big deal as some are making out. Yes, upgraded tech is required, but it's not going to be the critical factor. The crux of launching a succesful cam site is being able to get lots of traffic to convert to members. Without the traffic any models aren't going to stick around for long. Also the timing of bringing traffic and models to the site has to match up.

For a new site, traffic normally comes from routing traffic from elsewhere, such as a big existing site, (i.e a porn site) or attract popular models that brings enough existing tippers from other sites. Either way it requires large dollars to pay to bring traffic, especially english speaking traffic, the most desirable part of the cam market.

Really Puffin ? Are you saying then that you could run a active cam site off of one single vps server ?
What about security for the site and members / models personal details ? Fallover servers etc etc the list goes on and on.
A good technical setup is very important, no good if your site is prone to crashing or security is poor.

As per my post above regarding this guys set-up, he's bought old obsolete php software and is going to upgrade it.
To be honest he's wasted his money and would be better off starting from scratch with an up to date framework and programmers who know what they are doing.
I had a couple of php coder friends look over modenacam core base and both said the same that it's a pile of dog poo.

I agree about traffic tho, I've looked at sites like camsoda and one by done by the guys at xhampster and they are DEAD traffic wise.

The last new camsite i was watching a lot to see how it got on died a very quick death due to lack of traffic / members to keep the models there.
That was a 250K euro investment down the drain for the guy behind it.

Would i consider a camsite myself in 2017 ? Well unless i had 1 million dollars investment and a 2/3 year window before i saw profit covered, nope !!!

 

[Puffin]

Really Puffin ? Are you saying then that you could run a active cam site off of one single vps server ?

Nope, but you can move a vps to a dedicated server in a few hours if you have excellent tech skills. Hence it's not much of an issue.

What about security for the site and members / models personal details ? Fallover servers etc etc the list goes on and on. A good technical setup is very important, no good if your site is prone to crashing or security is poor.

While I rate security highly, the reality is, even with years of poor security MFC became one of the biggest cam sites ever.

As per my post above regarding this guys set-up, he's bought old obsolete php software and is going to upgrade it. To be honest he's wasted his money and would be better off starting from scratch with an up to date framework and programmers who know what they are doing. I had a couple of php coder friends look over modenacam core base and both said the same that it's a pile of dog poo.

Agreed, except starting from scratch still requires a solution to the traffic issue.

I agree about traffic tho, I've looked at sites like camsoda and one by done by the guys at xhampster and they are DEAD traffic wise.

Yes

 

[AnonyMouse]

Nope, but you can move a vps to a dedicated server in a few hours if you have excellent tech skills. Hence it's not much of an issue.

I think you missed the whole point of running a cam site off a tiny little vps

Also it takes way longer than 2 hours to properly setup a secure server.
I work on FreeBSD and it takes 2 days work to build up a system.
I compile from source with libressl as just one thing i do and replace any MD5 or SHA-512 hashed passwords with bcrypt.
My notepad is 20 A4 pages long with notes of all the settings etc I need to run thro

Point is anyone without any knowledge can buy a dedicated server and have a default Linux distro up and running in mins but it would be as secure as a wet paper bag.

 

[zippypinhead]

U.S. Publishing Industry’s Annual Survey Reveals Nearly $28 Billion in Revenue in 2015

(just in case this camsite idea doesn't work out for you)

Hmm... livestreams of books having their dust jackets removed for tips...

This may be the wrinkle that pushes my already successful cam service right over the top, and into the mainstream!

 

[petiterosexo]

Instead of being helpful, it just seems like everyone jumped on the wagon to attack this camsite/poster. I came looking for information and instead just read a bunch of seemingly sarcastic attacks at the original poster. I'm slightly disappointed at the approach and attitude taken in a lot of replies to this original post...

I am sure I will receive the same backlash for this reply, which is unfortunate. We all start somewhere and do our best to learn more so we do not make mistakes along the way. I thought we turn to forums like this for support, answers, and advice on how to succeed, but that's not what I see when I came to this thread...

Wouldn't we want to point this person in the right direction on where to fix their problems instead of shamming and attacking them..?

 

[SMuser69]

Instead of being helpful, it just seems like everyone jumped on the wagon to attack this camsite/poster. I came looking for information and instead just read a bunch of seemingly sarcastic attacks at the original poster. I'm slightly disappointed at the approach and attitude taken in a lot of replies to this original post...

I am sure I will receive the same backlash for this reply, which is unfortunate. We all start somewhere and do our best to learn more so we do not make mistakes along the way. I thought we turn to forums like this for support, answers, and advice on how to succeed, but that's not what I see when I came to this thread...

Wouldn't we want to point this person in the right direction on where to fix their problems instead of shamming and attacking them..?

Unfortunately most people without a 'model' tag on this site are often treated as 'fair game' and permanent outsiders. The non-model members who are here as part of the community have thick skins and come to expect it. I wouldn't worry to much, anyone that WANTS to be here is still here. There are also models and members that will only post sarcasm and troll no matter who the author is.

Also you replied to a thread that wasn't responded to since April. Check dates before you wake the dead accidentally.

 

[AudriTwo]

Instead of being helpful, it just seems like everyone jumped on the wagon to attack this camsite/poster. I came looking for information and instead just read a bunch of seemingly sarcastic attacks at the original poster. I'm slightly disappointed at the approach and attitude taken in a lot of replies to this original post...

I am sure I will receive the same backlash for this reply, which is unfortunate. We all start somewhere and do our best to learn more so we do not make mistakes along the way. I thought we turn to forums like this for support, answers, and advice on how to succeed, but that's not what I see when I came to this thread...

Wouldn't we want to point this person in the right direction on where to fix their problems instead of shamming and attacking them..?

We get new cam pitches a lot from "totally professionals, believe our word." Since it looks like you aren't that active, you probably didn't know. So if it comes across as "OMG THEY ARE CLEARLY ATTACKING HIM." People often feel attacked when they are challenged.

If anything I see a lot of strong criticism. His site looked awful. He was running outdated software. I love to see camsites succeed, but this is clearly a half ass project. It could be polished a lot more. OP looks like they haven't done anything to improve their site since talking to us. Also a lot of these new sites are giant scams. There are a lot of industry reps that were first met with standoffish, but after the trial period okay this person isn't garbage and scummy.

Also lighten up @SMuser69, . That is nuts.

 

[Violet Dawn]

Instead of being helpful, it just seems like everyone jumped on the wagon to attack this camsite/poster. I came looking for information and instead just read a bunch of seemingly sarcastic attacks at the original poster. I'm slightly disappointed at the approach and attitude taken in a lot of replies to this original post...

I am sure I will receive the same backlash for this reply, which is unfortunate. We all start somewhere and do our best to learn more so we do not make mistakes along the way. I thought we turn to forums like this for support, answers, and advice on how to succeed, but that's not what I see when I came to this thread...

Wouldn't we want to point this person in the right direction on where to fix their problems instead of shamming and attacking them..?

My response, like I'm sure was the same for others, was more concerning the fact this is a thread about someone explaining how they made a website, not asking for help. They came off kind of cocky and gave really bad advice, whether it was intentional or not.

 

[AmberCutie]

We get new cam pitches a lot from "totally professionals, believe our word." Since it looks like you aren't that active, you probably didn't know. So if it comes across as "OMG THEY ARE CLEARLY ATTACKING HIM." People often feel attacked when they are challenged.

If anything I see a lot of strong criticism. His site looked awful. He was running outdated software. I love to see camsites succeed, but this is clearly a half ass project. It could be polished a lot more. OP looks like they haven't done anything to improve their site since talking to us. Also a lot of these new sites are giant scams.

I agree and I think mojito stated things pretty well too.

Just a tip for your own well being...

This site favors members of cam sites, and models of cam sites, and their interactions with each other.
Generally, if you don't really fit into either category and your first few posts are promoting your adult business, you'll get given a hard time. If it was easy for everyone to promote their business here, generally it would just be an overflow of adult advertising and not the forum that Amber intended it to be.

Personally, if I were you, I wouldn't continue with your updates here - I think it's doing the opposite of what you want for your business. Your most recent one, the "A Day in a Life" - the way you've written it... I don't think this is your audience for that kind of writing. Unless you are actually an internet troll and this is all a farce. This is coming from a professional writer.

But good luck, and don't let anyone tell you that you can't succeed.

 

[Deleted member 37064]

Yes I do actually. I have built and configured many bare metal servers over the years, so I am fully aware of the cost.
What I cant understand is you splash out $5k+ on lawyers and $2k on software yet cant afford servers that would be around $200 a month leased.



I'm also fully aware of what the software is. If you paid a programmer $450 to change the date in that software all i can say is whoever you paid was laughing
his ass off. That code takes less than 5 mins to change.

Someone I know went a similar route, thinking they would corner the market in a specific sector. They spent almost $75K in legal expenses, domains, software development, etc over the course of two years and two different development teams before I met them. Over the course of a couple of months of discussions, he started to see some of the errors he was making due to complete lack of understanding when it comes to web development, etc.

Last I talked to him, he learned that he didn't have things fully planned out and start with a more simple approach. Then, slowly adding features. I'm not sure if this guy is doing a similar method or not. But, it is clear that he did what most people do when they have a lack of understanding of some core fundamentals.

Not trying to defend him. Only explaining that I have personally seen this happen to others so I can understand some of the issues he's facing.

 

[Deleted member 37064]

My notepad is 20 A4 pages long with notes of all the settings etc I need to run thro

You're still doing that shit manually? Haven't you heard of a little utility called "Configuration Management"? Or, the latest buzzword is "DevOps".

Server deployment, with a well developed Config Manager, can have a very secure server up and running in under two hours. Not two days.

 

[AudriTwo]

You're still doing that shit manually? Haven't you heard of a little utility called "Configuration Management"? Or, the latest buzzword is "DevOps".

Server deployment, with a well developed Config Manager, can have a very secure server up and running in under two hours. Not two days.

us dinosaurs like our pen and paper tyvm

 

[Deleted member 37064]

us dinosaurs like our pen and paper tyvm

I'd make a reference to Trapper Keeper. But, I hated it. Did like the folders though.

 

[AudriTwo]

@Candy Quivers posted this on OPs wall. Thought it was worth putting in the site thread.

 

[AudriTwo]

https://www.wecamgirls.com/topic/9702-camscapade-is-a-scamsite/
https://www.wecamgirls.com/topic/9696-tired-of-waiting-for-camscapade/

lol wow.

 

[Candy Quivers]

I very much doubt it. Looking at his other sites over the last 5 years I'm just laughing.
He claims to have lawyers in everyday over TOS yet and this is a big yet he's using a known website script called modenacam which has not been updated in 3 years and his version he's using indicates its 6 years old.
This script has been floating around for years on the "nulled" sites.
He's a CEO of domain name, WOW !!!



Now I'm going out on a leg here but this has all the hallmarks of reading twitter feeds of camversity. " Camversity - a site for models by models" and thinking let's copy that idea.

I might be wrong about all this but I doubt it, way too many red flags that indicate this is a load of old claptrap

Yup he is a scam! I won his 100 percent contest. I worked since 1st day and made almost 1600 usd working part time (3 hrs a day) for 3 months and did not see a dime. He refuses to answer any messages or emails. No skype or phone either.

 

[AudriTwo]

Question. Is it true he was using his camsite as his own personal fap catalog? Was he peeping into privates and using worthless tokens?