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I've been camming for a few months now but I'm lacking in the nice pictures department. I'm trying to hire a local photographer to take some sexy, possibly nude pictures for my profile and for galleries, but I have a handful of concerns:
1) I do not live where my "cam persona" lives and I worry that photographers would want to be credited for their work, but if I do people can search the company and find that I am not at all where I said I am
2) I don't know how to explain to someone that camming is a secret thing I do under a fake persona, and that I can't have anyone in my local area know about it, and even then, the photographer will always know
3) I'm not sure whether to go with a trustworthy boudoir photographer who may not be okay with what I'm taking these pictures for, or a not-so-trustworthy intimate photographer from say modelmayhem who would definitely understand what I'm doing

What should I do??
 
Honestly they could watermark them. And you could just say that you are a traveling model if one of your members ask. no reason they need to know better. Or just say you had the opportunity to travel to take pictures. Just an idea just in case. I did modeling for a while and the photographers always wanted to watermark so it could be difficult to find someone .
 
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From what I know about photography/videography. If you find a photographer that will do boudoir/nude work. It is just a matter of a written contract. The legal default rule is that images taken by a photographer are the property of the photographer unless there is a contract. You can write a contract stating you are the owner of the images and you are paying the photographer for their time and services. In the contract clearly state the images taken are your property and that the photographer has no rights or privileges to the images. Ask around for such a photographer. I know websites like model mayhem is a place to find such talent. I have no idea how reliable it is.
 
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I live in a highly populated area with a large fetish scene so I used Craigslist and vetted the photographers who had websites with work in styles that fit with my ideas. I got over 100 responses and paid to background check my three top choices. All three panned out so I'm going with the two with the best rates for two shoots and potentially ongoing work. Both my partner and my roommate are accompanying me to the shoots as they're rather intimidating guys just to be safe. One photographer/videographer is a woman, which makes me feel more comfortable, but out of all the responses only 3 were female so I think a lot of responses were horny guys who were curious about my somewhat vague ad, haha.

Be careful that you're not just getting "Guy With Camera" but an actual pro because you want a level of professionalism where you are respected. And a contract is a really good idea if you want to keep the images to yourself. Make that clear beforehand to avoid any confusion. Good luck!
 
I've been camming for a few months now but I'm lacking in the nice pictures department. I'm trying to hire a local photographer to take some sexy, possibly nude pictures for my profile and for galleries, but I have a handful of concerns:
1) I do not live where my "cam persona" lives and I worry that photographers would want to be credited for their work, but if I do people can search the company and find that I am not at all where I said I am
2) I don't know how to explain to someone that camming is a secret thing I do under a fake persona, and that I can't have anyone in my local area know about it, and even then, the photographer will always know
3) I'm not sure whether to go with a trustworthy boudoir photographer who may not be okay with what I'm taking these pictures for, or a not-so-trustworthy intimate photographer from say modelmayhem who would definitely understand what I'm doing

What should I do??

While I do find that most traditional boudoir photographers will want to watermark their photos (which makes sense), because of the more intimate nature of these photos, a lot of photographers will discuss comfort levels with you to see what you are okay with them publishing as part of their galleries. For instance, I know that in my area at least, the photographers here are open to either a) only showcasing photos where identifying features like faces aren't visible b) some will be okay with not publishing the photos at all. Just depends on the terms of the contract.

Speaking of contracts- if the game plan is to use the photos for commercial use, make sure that the contract allows it, since some boudoir photographers will only allow licensing for personal use. Those sorts of terms of use should be in the contract as well.

If you aren't having any luck with contacting local photographers that seem to be open to doing the kinds of photos you are looking for, and if you aren't really interested in sifting through classifieds or modelmayhem-style sites right away, if you have a local SW outreach group near you, they may be able to recommend local professionals that work with our industry. The bonus with this is that outreach groups understand concerns re: commercial needs, confidentiality needs, and making sure that the photographers are respectful and offer a quality product
 
I'm a photographer that has worked with a lot of adult models. I just did a photoshoot with an MFC model a few days ago. I can answer some of those questions.

I would first look for a photographer that has shot a lot of nude photos already. Really what you are looking for is a photographer that has worked with adult models on a regular basis. They are going to be much more relaxed and cool about it. Also, if you know any other cam models in the area ask who took their photos.

Modelmayhem is probably fine. Just make sure the photographer has done plenty of nude photos from a variety of models. That's a good way to at least do an initial screening. If they are shooting nude photos on a regular basis they are not going to care if you are a cam model. You don't need to bring it up if you don't want to. Just say you want some nude photo.

Photographers and models travel all the time. Just because they can tell where the photographer is based out of doesn't tell them anything about where it was shot. For example, I'm in the SF bay area but my most recent shoot was in the Mojave Desert just outside of Vegas.

If I my plug myself, I'm available for photoshoots in the SF bay area and am planning on making regular trips out to Vegas.

Here's a BTS from the shoot I took just a few days ago:

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Here's the thing with Boudoir Photographers:
They will display your images on their website whether you like it or not. If you think you can pay a licensing fee to prevent them from doing so... you already have enough money and you don't need to be camming. Exclusive rights are wicked expensive!
If you receive digital files, 9/10 times, you will only receive watermarked images appropriate for web use. Most boudoir clients don't feel comfortable placing those images online but in the event that they do, the photographer wants that to drive business their way. Certainly you can crop out a watermark... but then you run the risk of upsetting the copyright owner... the Photographer. The real money in Boudoir is in the albums and prints that clients buy to stash at home for their own viewing. None of this is wrong! They are well within their rights.

Here's the thing with the Model Mayhem crowd:
There is a certain risk that comes with your average MM user in that most of them don't have a business reputation to protect. This is no good for you or them. That's not to say that all of them are shady people... I myself have a MM account and I'm a pretty okay dude. There are some very fine photographers on Model Mayhem. There are also some really awful "photographers" on Model Mayhem that prey on people who don't know the industry.

Here's what you do: Look for photographs of models you follow and admire. Find out who shot it. Find out who else in the industry that photographer has worked with. Ask the models what their experiences with that photographer were like. If everything seems kosher, ask that photographer what your rights to the images will be and what they intend to do with them after your transaction is complete.
There are several photographers around that have worked with Cam Girls and know the industry. Some of them are pretty great people with a lot of talent. Always check references.

There's my advice.

Now, here's my plug:
I am the co-owner of Adult Indie Productions. I have worked with many cam girls and content creators. I am available for hire as a photographer and videographer. I operate on a work-for-hire basis, meaning that I retain no copyright to your content... your content is yours and the only watermark appearing on your content would be yours. Anything displayed on my website or social media is displayed with permission because the people I work with are super rad and understand that I need to display my work in order to get more work and I am very clear with models about where I will display such content (read as: There's a contract). There are some models I have worked with that have requested (via contract) that I do not display anything I have shot or filmed for them. It's not the most ideal circumstance for me... but I respect it.

Models: All of you:
Copyright is the most valuable asset in your content. Granted, it does not protect you from having a shady dude or dudette post, share or sell your content elsewhere. But it means there are ramifications for said shady dude or dudette.
Getting a photographer to release copyright to you is pretty fucking rare. And not unjustly so. Nobody is looking to screw you over by retaining the copyright to your images. Professionals are looking to protect themselves with copyright and provide themselves with a means for potential future income by being able to license their imagery to someone else in the future or (back when people still purchased prints) charge you to come back to them for a print. It's not personal. It's business. For instance, I absolutely do not release copyright in my personal work... only in adult work.
That doesn't make people like me special snowflakes... just rare snowflakes :)
I release copyright because:
a) I care about the industry and the people in it.
b) I have no commercial use for your imagery. I don't care to sell it to someone else in the future and I know pretty damn well that you're not going to come back to me to buy prints.
c) I already have too many hard drives full of imagery.
 
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