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Foolish I know, But am I alone as a customer/punter of MFC that has let passion for some woman/women on MFC eat away at one's financial stability? Causing a massive fuck up in your bank or credit card balance?

Have you be able to tell someone why you don't have any more money?

Trust me ladies I don't blame you, I'm only asking if I am the only one, if I am then I am jumping.
 
If you have spent more money than you can afford, you should step back now, whether anyone else has done it or not. And it's easy to get carried away. There is a reason MFC puts some (low) hurdles in the way of new members who might spend more than they originally intended to, or can afford.

Good luck to you.
 
To Sevrin.

Yeah Thanks. Not what I asked. I did know this. But Thank You for your input.
 
freeezze said:
Foolish I know, But am I alone as a customer/punter of MFC that has let passion for some woman/women on MFC eat away at one's financial stability? Causing a massive fuck up in your bank or credit card balance?

Have you be able to tell someone why you don't have any more money?

Trust me ladies I don't blame you, I'm only asking if I am the only one, if I am then I am jumping.

You aren't the only one. But it's rather a limited and un-useful question isn't it? "Am I the only one in tens of thousands of people who've spent more than they could afford". Its not actually giving any insight to anyone.

The real question should be why the people spend more than they can afford. What was the motivation to spend so much?
Surely that's the more relevant and interesting question than "Anyone else spend too much?".
 
You aren't the only one. But it's rather a limited and un-useful question isn't it? "Am I the only one in tens of thousands of people who've spent more than they could afford". Its not actually giving any insight to anyone.

The real question should be why the people spend more than they can afford. What was the motivation to spend so much?
Surely that's the more relevant and interesting question than "Anyone else spend too much?".[/quote]

Wow thanks Zoomer, I'm sure you will get lots of "thanks sent" for that.

You ask the right questions, but we all know the answers to these questions,don't we? So they are kinda rhetorical, yes? I aint looking for insight,( if I was I wouldn't come here ok). I aint looking for anything other than others in my position. Is it you too?

{Try to remember that I stated very clearly that I do not blame the MFC ladies.So there is no need to put me down}
 
lol, of fucking course you're not the only one! but I doubt many would be willing to admit it.

and as for Zoomers query... there are many answers probably...... again probably not too many that people want to own up to, both on the models and members side. :cat:
 
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missmeowmixx said:
lol, of fucking course you're not the only one! but I doubt many would be willing to admit it.

:cat:


Well. Why not see is there are people willing to admit it eh?

Jeez I honestly didn't expect to be trolled for such an innocent question ! Maybe reading my original post would help..a lot !
 
*raises hand*

I have spent more than I could afford on sexy ladies on the internet.


I think people have not responded because you have effectively and quickly shut down any tangents or discussions about related questions in this thread. You came across really defensive about it... so it doesn't make people want to post. No one really trolled you at all? If we were trolling you we'd say something like

"why are you such a loser"
"You are ugly that's why you can't get women so you spend on girls online"

No one said anything derogatory. You're misunderstanding what a 'put down' is. Please try to calm down :)
 
freeezze said:
missmeowmixx said:
lol, of fucking course you're not the only one! but I doubt many would be willing to admit it.

:cat:


Well. Why not see is there are people willing to admit it eh?

Jeez I honestly didn't expect to be trolled for such an innocent question ! Maybe reading my original post would help..a lot !

She answered your question and you respond by calling her a troll? Not exactly the best way to get replies.
 
Miss_Lollipop said:
*raises hand*

I have spent more than I could afford on sexy ladies on the internet.


I think people have not responded because you have effectively and quickly shut down any tangents or discussions about related questions in this thread. You came across really defensive about it... so it doesn't make people want to post. No one really trolled you at all? If we were trolling you we'd say something like

"why are you such a loser"
"You are ugly that's why you can't get women so you spend on girls online"

No one said anything derogatory. You're misunderstanding what a 'put down' is. Please try to calm down :)


Oh please, get back under your bridge. I wonder how close this forum is to MFC management. Seems like vested interests talking
 
I need to keep a close eye on my expenses on MFC.
It is very easy to get out the credit card for a quick private or some tokens for tips but it really adds up over time.

Because I consider myself an adult and nobody points a gun ar my head when I type in the CC details, I just accept the expense and if I really run into problems I would leave MFC altogether...
But at the moment I try to support only 1-2 models and they know I am not rich, so they are OK that I don't tip for certain periods...

MFC can be addictive no question, and you can burn through serious money quite easily..

:)
 
freeezze said:
Foolish I know, But am I alone as a customer/punter of MFC that has let passion for some woman/women on MFC eat away at one's financial stability?
No you are not alone.
freeezze said:
Causing a massive fuck up in your bank or credit card balance?
Not personally.

freeezze said:
Have you be able to tell someone why you don't have any more money?
Not applicable to me.

freeezze said:
Trust me ladies I don't blame you, I'm only asking if I am the only one, if I am then I am jumping.
Good for you... and again, no you are not alone.

freeezze said:
Jeez I honestly didn't expect to be trolled for such an innocent question! Maybe reading my original post would help..a lot!
The problem here is that you've come to a forum asking "yes" or "no" questions. This is a place that, by definition, ideas and thoughts are exchanged... If you join any forum, you best be prepared for conversation and debate.
If you just want simple answers with little to no interaction from other members of this forum, get yourself a fucking Magic 8-ball.
Grow the fuck up, man.
 
I very much doubt you're alone, sir :)

It's easy to tip more than you can really afford. I've never been in way over my head or anything but there's been numerous times where it's gotten to the end of the month, two or three days before payday and I have a few pence to my name and I think "if I'd have spent less time on MFC this month, I could afford to go out tonight". But then I think back to all the other stuff I've bought throughout the month, and really, I can't blame MFC for my lack of moneys :)
Plus, on balance, if it's a choice between one more night out at the end of the month or a bunch of time spent in the company of lovely naked ladies, I'm probably happier with the time spent in the company of lovely naked ladies (something I haven't been able to do this month as a result of having no monies :woops:).

All of this rambling nonsense is to say, don't spend money you can't afford and don't be afraid to tell a model that you can't visit her for a little while cos you can't afford it. If she's not a complete poopoo-head, she'll understand. As much as models depend on a customer's tips, I honestly don't think there are many that would want you to continue tipping them when you can't afford to. And the ones that do probably aren't worth the money in the first place. Like others have said, if you're spending money you can't afford, it's definitely time to step away from the keyboard :thumbleft:
 
Shutterbuck said:
get yourself a fucking Magic 8-ball.
Grow the fuck up, man.


That is very puerile. Did I say that I didn't take responsibility? Once again I asked only a simple question, and I do not believe a forum requires a discussion absolute, it may be 'classically' a means of exchanging ideas, if you mean in terms of a 'market place' etc but I don't see why it excludes simple questions.
However, I should not have expected anything other than abuse on this forum.
 
freeezze said:
Shutterbuck said:
get yourself a fucking Magic 8-ball.
Grow the fuck up, man.


That is very puerile. Did I say that I didn't take responsibility? Once again I asked only a simple question, and I do not believe a forum requires a discussion absolute, it may be 'classically' a means of exchanging ideas, if you mean in terms of a 'market place' etc but I don't see why it excludes simple questions.
However, I should not have expected anything other than abuse on this forum.

You have got to be joking... Shutter is the first person who has said anything that could be considered even remotely insulting and it was in response to your over defensive and insulting posts to nice people who were offering kind advice.

You came in to our house and then complained about the color of the wall paper? Well I'm sorry, this isn't askaperv.com. This is a community of real live people who interact with each other like real live people. You should be fucking honored people even bothered to answer you at all, considering you don't have the decency to even introduce yourself first, you entitled little shit! (yes, I called you a name and you more than earned it) Nobody owes you fucking shit and YOU don't get to dictate how this community runs.

You would have to max out your credit cards for me to put up with you for more than 5 minutes and banning would still be only 6 minutes away, so I guess I can see how this happened.

Good lord!
 
JoleneBrody said:
freeezze said:
Shutterbuck said:
get yourself a fucking Magic 8-ball.
Grow the fuck up, man.


That is very puerile. Did I say that I didn't take responsibility? Once again I asked only a simple question, and I do not believe a forum requires a discussion absolute, it may be 'classically' a means of exchanging ideas, if you mean in terms of a 'market place' etc but I don't see why it excludes simple questions.
However, I should not have expected anything other than abuse on this forum.

You have got to be joking... Shutter is the first person who has said anything that could be considered even remotely insulting and it was in response to your over defensive and insulting posts to nice people who were offering kind advice.

You came in to our house and then complained about the color of the wall paper? Well I'm sorry, this isn't askaperv.com. This is a community of real live people who interact with each other like real live people. You should be fucking honored people even bothered to answer you at all, considering you don't have the decency to even introduce yourself first, you entitled little shit! (yes, I called you a name and you more than earned it) Nobody owes you fucking shit and YOU don't get to dictate how this community runs.

You would have to max out your credit cards for me to put up with you for more than 5 minutes and banning would still be only 6 minutes away, so I guess I can see how this happened.

Good lord!

When you lay the smackdown like this, you make me want to max out my credit cards for you :shifty:
 
freeezze said:
missmeowmixx said:
lol, of fucking course you're not the only one! but I doubt many would be willing to admit it.

:cat:


Well. Why not see is there are people willing to admit it eh?

Jeez I honestly didn't expect to be trolled for such an innocent question ! Maybe reading my original post would help..a lot !

try a poll....that allows you to get some of the data you're looking for, and doesn't prohibit commentary....and since you're posting on a forum, you're gonna get some, and trying to control it just makes you sound mean spirited.

it's a forum for chrissakes :twocents-02cents:

oh yeah.....to answer your question....yeah...i found myself spending too much at one point....i stopped.....the reason for the generosity.....i'm a generous guy....i've had to keep it in check my whole life
 
Yes, I have bought tokens when I should not have done so due to my financial issues. When I couldnt buy more tokens, I didnt SAY that to anyone, I just stopped my perving until I could afford to do so again.

Theres no way anyone can misconstrue this post. :mrgreen:
 
From the comments, it feels like freeezze is fishing for abuse. He WANTS you to troll him, and since he hasn't gotten any actual trolly comments, he's taking anything negative as troll.

Hun, if you ask your mother for a cookie and she says "no", she's not trolling you.
If you ask a friend if they liked a movie that you liked, and they say "no", they're not trolling you.
If you ask a teacher if the answer on your homework is correct and s/he says "no", you're not being trolled.

No one has insulted you. No one has done anything but given you reasonable answers and suggestions, and yet you call "troll", "abuse", and "negative treatment".

So here's a little bit of advice:
-if a member has a black or dark blue name, it's probably male, and is not a verified model. This means that the person you are addressing is a fellow from the member side of things.

-if a member has a purple name, it's definitely female, and is a verified model. This means she definitely has a model account on a reputable camsite. Many models also have member accounts, so they might actually be speaking from the member side of things.

-if a member has a light blue name, and the name is AmberCutie, it's the creator of this forum, so treat with respect unless you want to be banned. She is a model on MFC.

-if a member has a light blue name, and the name is Jawbs, it's the co-creator of this forum, a male.

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I have a member account that I don't use very often. To keep myself from overspending, I have a very simple habit. I view the cams in my bedroom. The credit cards are in my purse by the front door. I buy tokens, then replace the credit card, before I ever view the cams. If I want to keep myself from spending the tokens all at once, I use the bank option. Thus, if I want to spend on a whim, I have to leave the bedroom, get to the front door, unzip the purse, pull out the wallet, wrestle with the card, walk back to the bedroom, before I can ever enter the details.

I happen to be lazy, and also find it hard to spend on things I don't really need. Thus, by the time I get the purse out from under the shoes, I've usually had my second thoughts.


Speaking as a model: I don't want you to put yourself in debt for me. My members don't understand this. I make them think it's purely practical (if you go in debt, you won't be able to give me as much money later! I'd rather you give me a little bit over a long period of time, than a giant amount now and never again!), but the truth is, I really honestly care. I can't stand the thought of other people in trouble. Even if they were never going to tip me again after that day whether they went in debt or not, I'd still rather they not go into debt for me.
 
JoleneBrody said:
You came in to our house and then complained about the color of the wall paper? Well I'm sorry, this isn't askaperv.com. This is a community of real live people who interact with each other like real live people. You should be fucking honored people even bothered to answer you at all, considering you don't have the decency to even introduce yourself first, you entitled little shit! (yes, I called you a name and you more than earned it) Nobody owes you fucking shit and YOU don't get to dictate how this community runs.

You would have to max out your credit cards for me to put up with you for more than 5 minutes and banning would still be only 6 minutes away, so I guess I can see how this happened.

Good lord!

I'm not in your house, I'm in a public forum on the internet. And I was not asking for askaperv.com, whatever that is. Yes Jolene I can see that there is a community here, I have read many posts on this site, and yes I should have known better than to expect anything other than jeers and sneers from the fuckin' know-alls that live under the bridge and come out periodically to stamp their short fat hairy legs. I don't dictate. I asked a few questions. You perhaps lean towards the dictator.
 
freeezze said:
Miss_Lollipop said:
*raises hand*

I have spent more than I could afford on sexy ladies on the internet.


I think people have not responded because you have effectively and quickly shut down any tangents or discussions about related questions in this thread. You came across really defensive about it... so it doesn't make people want to post. No one really trolled you at all? If we were trolling you we'd say something like

"why are you such a loser"
"You are ugly that's why you can't get women so you spend on girls online"

No one said anything derogatory. You're misunderstanding what a 'put down' is. Please try to calm down :)


Oh please, get back under your bridge. I wonder how close this forum is to MFC management. Seems like vested interests talking

Hahaha Wow. It seems you haven't been afflicted with wisdom yet in your life. You really are a moron. (That's a put down in case you don't understand that)

You're a 17 post noob who doesn't have a clue how any part of this site works it seems. Otherwise you probably wouldn't be acting this way. I can only hope you act this way in real life so someone will come along and clusterfuck some sense into your ass.

Have a nice day.
 
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freeezze said:
Shutterbuck said:
get yourself a fucking Magic 8-ball.
Grow the fuck up, man.
That is very puerile. Did I say that I didn't take responsibility? Once again I asked only a simple question, and I do not believe a forum requires a discussion absolute, it may be 'classically' a means of exchanging ideas, if you mean in terms of a 'market place' etc but I don't see why it excludes simple questions.
However, I should not have expected anything other than abuse on this forum.

What's puerile is the idea that you would enter a forum expecting that discussion and advise would not arise from your simple question(s). Does it require discussion? No. But it isn't illogical to expect that it will happen.
To act defensive and lash out absurdly by telling a respected member of the forum to
...get back under your bridge
, especially when that member was the first to actually raise her hand in admittance of overspending on the site... is pretty infantile.
You, dear Freeezze, are what I like to refer to as a "Seagull". Your only purpose here is to fly around making a bunch of noise and then shit all over everything before you leave. Not quite a "Troll"... not quite a "Noob"... but a Seagull.
 
Bocefish said:
jodeum said:
You're a 17 post noob who doesn't have a clue how any part of this site works it seems.

Said the 38 post veteran. Couldn't resist :p

I'm a noob too. Freely admitted. But I have learned enough in my years to not tell Miss_Lollipop to 'get back under your bridge' like he did. She's a nice lady but when it comes down to it she's got chains n' stuff! :?
 
freeezze said:
Wow thanks Zoomer, I'm sure you will get lots of "thanks sent" for that.
freeezze said:
Jeez I honestly didn't expect to be trolled for such an innocent question ! Maybe reading my original post would help..a lot !
freeezze said:
Oh please, get back under your bridge. I wonder how close this forum is to MFC management. Seems like vested interests talking
freeezze said:
However, I should not have expected anything other than abuse on this forum.

This stuff is pure gold!
And my favourite:
freeezze said:
I should have known better than to expect anything other than jeers and sneers from the fuckin' know-alls that live under the bridge and come out periodically to stamp their short fat hairy legs.
When I last looked JJ's legs looked long, slim and hairless, but whatever...

You have some serious issues with acf.

Yes I am sure it happens. As far as I know it hasn't been an issue for anyone who's tipped me and I'm glad for it.
There's a difference though spending a bit more than you can afford. Everyone does that, not just on camgirls, but on everything. I spend more than I can afford on going for a meal with my friend. Or lending/giving a close friend money when they're in real need. Sometimes I want to buy something that really I can't afford.
What is not normal is putting yourself in serious debt for mfc, and I'm talking thousands of pounds that you have no way to pay off. Enough to ruin your life. That isn't normal and is very serious. If you've ever done that then you actually have a problem and need to seek help as there's a reason for you doing this other than generosity.

Camgirls are supposed to be fun luxuries. Tipping is amazing, I love doing it. I like tipping more than I like receiving tips I think. But I know that right now I cannot afford to tip my friends what I want to tip them. So I don't. Right now I'd also like to buy a load of clothes and go on a night out drinking. But I can't afford it. So I don't. I know plenty of people who do this though.

Anyway, stop attacking people for no reason. Stop attacking acf! What on earth is your problem? Because it's not anything anyone's said in this thread.
 
I have absolutely spent over my means on MFC models. (I'm the type of prem that spends all my tokens the night I buy them.) I've never put myself in any sort of financial trouble over it.


I'm also a little bit of a troll so I'll just hang out under the bridge with the likes of the awesome ladies that have already posted because really, who wouldn't want to be under a bridge with Miss Lollipop and Jolene Brody? That's a fuckin' no brainer.
 
It happens to everyone, I'm sure. Something comes up and you decide you REALLY want to private with a model or join a group or get to a token goal for something you want.

When it happens to me, it normally means I will just be low in my bank account until I get paid next. I only use my debit card, not a credit card, so I know exactly how much I have in my account each time I buy tokens. And I know that no matter how much I want to private/group/tip I will never let myself overdraw my account to get tokens. Ever.

If it means I only have 900 tokens for 2 weeks, so be it. If it means I only have 200 tokens for 2 weeks, so be it.

But, I never have to tell anyone why I have no money. I have no family that I take care of or anything, so my money is my money. If friends want to go out, and I've had a lot of expenses, and I say I am broke, they pretty much assume I either didn't make a lot or that I just paid my bills and shit.

Like this pay period, my bank did some odd shit, said I had more money in my account than apparently I did, but nothing was showing pending and such. After we all went out for my friend's b-day 2 weeks ago, I ended up -$92 and change. So when I got paid last week, I automagically lost that much. I spent a little on MFC, paid some bills, but also spent $400 on new tires to replace the 3 bald ones I had. So for the past week I have had a whopping $10 and change left in my account. And I don't get paid again until next Friday. And my windshield just developed a crack, today, too. Joy.

So, I simply know I cannot buy tokens. It's not that hard to have the knowledge I can't buy tokens and live with it. But, I also just got done day 13 in a row of work, out of at least 19 in a row (it might end up being like 40+ in a row :woops: ). So I don't have a lot of time to be on MFC right now. And I definitely have no time to be spending any money I don't have there.

If one lacks the self control to control one's spending on a cam site when they know they can't afford it, then they should consider getting help. Maxing out your credit cards, overdrawing your bank account, just for some potential fapping isn't smart. Learn to control the spending, and hang out with models that understand that not every member is going to have tokens every single day (it is amazing how many seem to think people just always have tokens all the time...). The models who appreciate members hanging out and tipping when they can are far better than the models who get all upset when someone can't tip them every single day.

If you're having problems controlling your spending and it is hurting you financially, then you need to tell your bank and credit card companies to deny any charges from MFC or any other cam site you belong to. Because, you obviously need help in controlling yourself.
 
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