Feeling sore...

[nerdguy]

I saw a video on youtube about the supposed "truth" about MFC, and I had a question. If you're completely sore from the day before, let's say that you used a dildo/vibrator that's just too big for you, or are too dry, etc. Do you really get on the next day and do it all over again? I mean it's a job and all, but if it's hurting that much, do you even bother?

 

[AmberCutie]

I saw a video on youtube about the supposed "truth" about MFC, and I had a question. If you're completely sore from the day before, let's say that you used a dildo/vibrator that's just too big for you, or are too dry, etc. Do you really get on the next day and do it all over again? I mean it's a job and all, but if it's hurting that much, do you even bother?

I tried to last night after cumming 13 times the day before. I only had one successful cum, tried for a 2nd and just couldn't. I even had to switch toys in the first group since Mr.T was too big for my sore twat.

I was all prepared just to grin and bear the pain last night, but in reality I couldn't.

There's a video named "the ugly truth about mfc" or something like that, and if that's the one you're referring to, I don't see how it has anything to do with sore vaginas.

 

[nerdguy]

I tried to last night after cumming 13 times the day before. I only had one successful cum, tried for a 2nd and just couldn't. I even had to switch toys in the first group since Mr.T was too big for my sore twat.

I was all prepared just to grin and bear the pain last night, but in reality I couldn't.

There's a video named "the ugly truth about mfc" or something like that, and if that's the one you're referring to, I don't see how it has anything to do with sore vaginas.

That's the video I was referring to,it just mentioned how some girls were really sore, and they would have to do it all over the next day.

 

[LadyLuna]

If I am that sore, I get on the next day and only use fingers, explaining that my pussy doesn't want toys today.

Most guys assume that I'm sore from hot sex (which, of course, could be true sometimes )

 

[AlexLady]

If a model treats this like--and only like-- a "job" in the eyes of someone who only sees it as a stereotype where members only want large toys and only want sexual stuff, and who is ignorant of lube, sure, she might cam shoving ridiculously sized items into herself repeatedly on cam because she's too spaced out to do otherwise.


However almost every single model ever is smarter than that. Even if a model was so retarded that she'd injure herself for tokens out of desperation, she'd quit within months. Most of the time, the models you see shoving bats up themselves without lube were doing it before they were on cam at MFC anyways.


Besides, the video you're posting about is so wrong in other ways, why would you listen to it in this one specific topic?

Here are more opinions on this video if you're interested;
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=2045&hilit=truth



Yeah. Girls get sore sometimes from masturbating. But they take care of themselves and put their health first unless they're the type of girl who enjoys getting sore. If she's only doing everything for tokens and doesn't care how she feels, and you actually only care about girls who have self value, tip someone else. It shouldn't be hard to tell a "faker" from a girl who'll say "this is too much for my little cunt to handle."

 

[AmyLemon]

I had the soreness problem early on in my "career", but only because at the time I was quite naive and assumed that when I was in private and the premium was repeatedly screaming "DEEPER! HARDER!" that I was utterly obligated to comply in order to provide the performance the user was paying good money for. As a new model I really thought I had to do EVERYTHING they demanded.

My own comfort and my own enjoyment was the LAST thing I was thinking of in those days. Being a new model I just assumed that the vicious violent banging was par-for-the-course and the abusive approach of the premium was completely normal. As time went on and I got more comfortable on cam I realized that trying to satisfy the "HARDER/DEEPER" crowd is impossible, literally physically impossible (lol, I can't even count the number of times I've had a premium shout "Take it ALLLLLLLL BB" in regards to my 14" double dong - that if inserted fully would puncture one my lungs)

And now that I'm a wizened old camwhore I wonder if the people screaming HARDER, even want "harder" or if it's just one of those phrases dudes scream out randomly like, "mmmmmmmmmmmmm" or "yayayayayayayaya" For us girls that's a very specific choreography request, but I suspect that for the viewer it might just be something-you-scream-whilst-jerking-your-cock. Those dudes who can type a full word are just slightly more in control of their faculties than the "yayayayayayaya" guy.

These days I still get the "HARDER/DEEPER" choreography requests 100 times a day but I no longer feel obligated to comply. I might go harder, and I might go deeper, but only because *I* want to, not because someone is screaming it in broken English allcaps lol.

These days there is a normal level of soreness that happens after long cam shifts and back-to-back orgasms, but I would equate that soreness to a good workout or productive work day sensation as opposed to a "pain" sensation. But I vividly recall back-in-the-day when I was a noob model how traumatizing physically and psychologically the early days of groups and privates were before I realized that it was completely within my rights as a model to say, "no, this is hard enough dude."

 

[Paris_Lee]

If a model treats this like--and only like-- a "job" --- If she's only doing everything for tokens and doesn't care how she feels, and you actually only care about girls who have self value, tip someone else. It shouldn't be hard to tell a "faker" from a girl who'll say "this is too much for my little cunt to handle."

i treat this like a full time job BECAUSE IT IS. Its my livelyhood. However with some serious hustling, and sometimes faking (which btw if you are good at your job, no one will know otherwise) this shouldnt happen.

 

[AlexLady]

Why do you have to fake enjoying masturbation? Not to be rude or anything, but I've never even understood how this is possible.

 

[Jupiter551]

I'm thinking she means fake-inserting toys

 

[AlexLady]

Well, I suppose I can see faking an orgasm if you've already came too much in one day and want to make the person feel like they've "got what they've paid for."

Some girls do that to husbands and boyfriends too.

 

[Paris_Lee]

i mean fake inserting toys, orgasm the whole shabang. i work for a wham bam thank you maam site. i do about 20 shows a shift, its not like mfc, where you do a token countdown for 4 hours and then do one show. you have to fake it at least part of the time in order to be able to work a whole shift.

my group feature shows i dont fake it, becuase its an hour show.

im not going to candycoat my answers just becuase the boys can see this. most guys know that girls fake it sometimes weather they know its happening during their show or not, clients arent that naieve.


i dont work for any countdown sites, so i think the dynamic is totally different then what you are used to.

 

[AlexLady]

That really sucks that there are sites out there that make it so you have to do that, with the way things are setup and the culture of the site in general. I couldn't imagine masturbating 20 times a day, at least every day. I'm sure it's good sometimes when you really want to, but still.

 

[HollieCakes]

I don't know about other models on MFC so much but I won't use toys bigger than I am comfortable with & only do privates with toys as much as I feel like (sometimes not at all) each day... doing more than is fun for the model will just make her burned out & tired of camming (or sore!!) and need to take time off or just quit... which in the long run means making less money right??

 

[AmyLemon]

That really sucks that there are sites out there that make it so you have to do that, with the way things are setup and the culture of the site in general. I couldn't imagine masturbating 20 times a day, at least every day. I'm sure it's good sometimes when you really want to, but still.

I think we might be sympathizing with Paris unnecessarily. Where Paris works and how she works is just one style of camming and it’s actually the more traditional style. MFC is the anomaly in the camgirl world with its emphasis on public shows, fan base building and the fame&fortune concept. Most sites work on the back-to-back-to-back sex performance model and although MFC doesn’t (it leans towards public shows) a lot of girls still work MFC precisely in this more “traditional” manner.

I’m kind of one of those girls, I forgo public shows for the most part and work exclusively in group and private. I can easily do 20 shows a day if I have the time/inclination! Paris’ site doesn’t “make” her work this way, this is how she works. The culture on that site wouldn’t be suitable for models like me or Alex who genuinely enjoy the social aspect that comes part and parcel with MFC, but on the flipside how the MFC girls do it must seem bizarre to her!

It also boggles my mind sometimes why a girl will spend two hours doing a countdown to raise the same amount of tokens she could make in a half hour group where she could presumably genuinely be enjoying her body as opposed to holding it hostage for money and then share it with hundreds if not thousands of non-investors in her program, *but we all work differently* and we all prioritize our time and approach our vocations differently.

Some of us build fan bases and friends, some of us are only interested in building “return clientele”. Some of us do it for the social aspect or to further adult industry careers, and some of us are just feeding our kids and paying our mortgage. There are no victims in the sex-acts-on-the-internet-for-money industry, aside from the obvious: human trafficking, bad studios, exploited women. Independent camgirls have the option of working on whichever site they choose in whichever manner they choose. Paris is another vibrant colour in the camwhore rainbow!

 

[Paris_Lee]

very well said lemon!

 

[AmyLemon]

very well said lemon!

haha no problem girlie! I re-read the post after I sent it and thought to myself, "I wonder if Paris will think it's creepy that I referred to her in the third person for that whole post? I hope that doesn't come off as weird" lol.

 

[Paris_Lee]

not to derail but can you make good money on mfc just doing pvts and no public penetration countdowns? it seems highly atypical.

 

[Bocefish]

not to derail but can you make good money on mfc just doing pvts and no public penetration countdowns? it seems highly atypical.

A successful select few do it thataway, and LovelyLemon is among the best. LL does some epic group shows as well. Amber only does group shows and Pamella, along with several others formerly did private shows only, but have recently adapted to the public countdown show bonanza since the rules aren't being enforced. Whatever works best for you would be the way to go.

 

[AlexLady]

not to derail but can you make good money on mfc just doing pvts and no public penetration countdowns? it seems highly atypical.

I've never full out masturbated in public, Paris, but I do do things like lotion shows, spankings, and stuff like that. About a third of what I get is from groups, and about a sixth is privates. Other girls make almost everything in groups. MFC and similar sites lets you have the freedom to run it how you like it.

I'd probably get more privates if I didn't turn down those "Hru wana pvt bb?" people. >_> But I call that a standard.

 

[NaomiRose]

I think camming is all about what you are comfortable with. Yes, this is a job, and yes we are being paid, but it's still our bodies we are playing with! Health is of the utmost important and any worthwhile customer is going to realize that and not be upset if you can't go harder/deeper because it hurts you!

If I'm really sore, I do take the next day off... Or I just don't do shows and focus on doing fun stuff in public. In general, I try not to wear myself out too much to the point of being sore, but it does happen. (I did have 11 orgasms in one day last week! :eek)

As for faking, I realize a lot of girls do it, but it's totally not my bag. Lol. I love masturbating and cumming... Why fake an orgasm when I can have a real one!? Plus, I'm all about being real anyways. If I'm going to fake, I would tell the guy I was going to fake. I've actually had a few say that was fine, lol. (For example, we're in a private and he wants me to cum before his tokens are up, I say I probably can't, but I could fake it if he likes.) It's not like I'm not still enjoying myself. I used to fake when I first started, but that was because I didn't really know how to get myself off with toys... And then I learned! Camming has been a great way for me to find out multiple ways to please myself, lol.

I suppose it depends on the environment... If I was constantly in shows I might start faking. I do make quite a bit from groups and privates... On my really good days, I've often had a lot of privates - 60 tokens a minute (plus spies) just can't be beat! Lol. But I make a lot from groups or tips as well. Either way, it is a lot harder to get shows on MFC, but the public aspect totally makes up for that, I think. But some girls just aren't into that style.

Btw, I totally agree that what you said, LovelyLemon, was very well put. Good job! =)

 

[BelleMadlyne]

Thank you very much for your post, Lemon.
You honestly made me feel a lot better about myself and my style.
I have been watching some of the top models and I was really dissapointed to see that almost all of them were doing very sexual public shows, and since I don't feel comfortable doing that, I was almost starting to think I should give up on this job.
:thumbleft: So thank you.

 

[PrincessDaisy]

this great! it's comforting to know that i don't have to show all in public or comply with unrealistic demands.

i'm glad i joined these forums. been a great help so far.

 

[GingerAnn]

I get pretty sore sometimes, both from masturbating and from kneeling on my bed for extended periods of time. My hitachi can wear out my clit and surrounding area like mad if I've just shaved that day. It's never really been bad enough that I couldn't power through it and have an orgasm anyways, I just take it a little easier than otherwise.



I think I may be an oddity in the fact that I'm actually more comfortable in public shows than private. When I get off in public I feel a little more free to do what will actually please me and to do it in my own time (which is sometimes be quick and sometimes not).

Privates also make me feel a little like they OWN me for that time, and while I won't do anything physically harmful to my body it's just eerie having a stranger tell me what to do. Feels icky to me. (which is funny, because that's what I expected being a cam girl to be, until I found MFC) I suppose I only really have that problem if it's a private with somebody who I haven't talked with much. Going private with a regular in my room is fun, but going private with random passers-through freaks me out.

I also run into the problem of Group shows or Privates ending before I've gotten off, at which point I am tossed unsatisfied back into public and need to rebuild the number of members in my room and try for a countdown again. I expect this problem will fade as I get more regulars and popularity on the site? *shrug*

I feel as though I'm going way off topic, but public vs. private has been discussed in here as well.

 

[Skulliee]

If you don't have vaginal tearing and hemorrhaging, YER NOT DOIN' IT RIGHT.