Example of violet crime in Australia :(

[Jupiter551]

http://au.news.yahoo.com/sa/latest/a/-/ ... o-robbery/

WOMAN WEARS 'ZORRO-STYLE' MASK IN SERVO ROBBERY
Yahoo!7
December 21, 2012, 12:24 pm

A woman wearing a ‘Zorro style eye mask’ used a large knife to rob a service station in Adelaide’s northern suburbs early this morning.

Police say the woman entered the United service station on Main North Rd at Pooraka at 5.20am and threatened the attendant with a large knife she took from her handbag.

They say security footage from the service station shows a woman in her mid 20s, of medium build, with long, blonde, curly or wavy hair that appear to be hair extensions.

They say she was wearing black leggings, black flat slip-on shoes, a dark grey fitted cardigan and a black sash with holes cut out tied across her eyes, like a Zorro mask.

She also had a pink leather-look handbag with a long strap.

Police say the woman appearance is quite distinctive and have asked anyone who might know the offender to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000, on online at www.sa.crimestoppers.com.au.

Meanwhile, police say a man also used a knife to rub (lol) a service station at Alberton just before 6am.
He fled with a small amount of cash.

Zorro style mask, wow they'll never be able to identify her.

 

[Ann_Sulu]

http://au.news.yahoo.com/sa/latest/a/-/newshome/15691877/woman-wears-zorro-style-mask-in-servo-robbery/

WOMAN WEARS 'ZORRO-STYLE' MASK IN SERVO ROBBERY
Yahoo!7
December 21, 2012, 12:24 pm

A woman wearing a ‘Zorro style eye mask’ used a large knife to rob a service station in Adelaide’s northern suburbs early this morning.

Police say the woman entered the United service station on Main North Rd at Pooraka at 5.20am and threatened the attendant with a large knife she took from her handbag.

They say security footage from the service station shows a woman in her mid 20s, of medium build, with long, blonde, curly or wavy hair that appear to be hair extensions.

They say she was wearing black leggings, black flat slip-on shoes, a dark grey fitted cardigan and a black sash with holes cut out tied across her eyes, like a Zorro mask.

She also had a pink leather-look handbag with a long strap.

Police say the woman appearance is quite distinctive and have asked anyone who might know the offender to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000, on online at http://www.sa.crimestoppers.com.au.

Meanwhile, police say a man also used a knife to rub (lol) a service station at Alberton just before 6am.
He fled with a small amount of cash.

Zorro style mask, wow they'll never be able to identify her.

Well no especially if she ditched her fabulous pink handbag

 

[Bocefish]

AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN

April 13, 2009

It is a common fantasy that gun bans make society safer. In 2002 -- five years after enacting its gun ban -- the Australian Bureau of Criminology acknowledged there is no correlation between gun control and the use of firearms in violent crime. In fact, the percent of murders committed with a firearm was the highest it had ever been in 2006 (16.3 percent), says the D.C. Examiner.

Even Australia's Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime:

In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
Moreover, Australia and the United States -- where no gun-ban exists -- both experienced similar decreases in murder rates:

Between 1995 and 2007, Australia saw a 31.9 percent decrease; without a gun ban, America's rate dropped 31.7 percent.
During the same time period, all other violent crime indices increased in Australia: assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent.
Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women.
While this doesn't prove that more guns would impact crime rates, it does prove that gun control is a flawed policy. Furthermore, this highlights the most important point: gun banners promote failed policy regardless of the consequences to the people who must live with them, says the Examiner.

Source: Howard Nemerov, "Australia experiencing more violent crime despite gun ban," D.C. Examiner, April 8, 2009.

For text:

http://www.examiner.com/x-2879-Austin-G ... te-gun-ban

 

[Jupiter551]

AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN

April 13, 2009

It is a common fantasy that gun bans make society safer. In 2002 -- five years after enacting its gun ban -- the Australian Bureau of Criminology acknowledged there is no correlation between gun control and the use of firearms in violent crime. In fact, the percent of murders committed with a firearm was the highest it had ever been in 2006 (16.3 percent), says the D.C. Examiner.

Even Australia's Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime:

In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
Moreover, Australia and the United States -- where no gun-ban exists -- both experienced similar decreases in murder rates:

Between 1995 and 2007, Australia saw a 31.9 percent decrease; without a gun ban, America's rate dropped 31.7 percent.
During the same time period, all other violent crime indices increased in Australia: assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent.
Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women.
While this doesn't prove that more guns would impact crime rates, it does prove that gun control is a flawed policy. Furthermore, this highlights the most important point: gun banners promote failed policy regardless of the consequences to the people who must live with them, says the Examiner.

Source: Howard Nemerov, "Australia experiencing more violent crime despite gun ban," D.C. Examiner, April 8, 2009.

For text:

http://www.examiner.com/x-2879-Austin-G ... te-gun-ban

that link doesn't lead to an article or any sources for me just a comments page.

this is from the place they quote though, I can't see this huge crime rise they're referring to - and they're using the same statistics. Note that it's difficult to see the rise and fall of homocide on that chart because it happens so infrequently that it is statistically irrelevant.
http://www.aic.gov.au/statistics/violent crime.html

This wasn't intended to turn into an argument, I just thought it was a funny story, but please don't try to bullshit us about our crime rates, we have considerably lower crime per population than the US. I go to the store and leave my apartment unlocked so I won't have to fumble for my keys with my hands full.

 

[Bocefish]

This wasn't intended to turn into an argument, I just thought it was a funny story, but please don't try to bullshit us about our crime rates, we have considerably lower crime per population than the US. I go to the store and leave my apartment unlocked so I won't have to fumble for my keys with my hands full.

I also leave my home unlocked while on short errands, so what. You're the one who tries to shove your irrational beliefs that U.S. citizens need to do what Australia has done.

 

[Nordling]

This wasn't intended to turn into an argument, I just thought it was a funny story, but please don't try to bullshit us about our crime rates, we have considerably lower crime per population than the US. I go to the store and leave my apartment unlocked so I won't have to fumble for my keys with my hands full.

I also leave my home unlocked while on short errands, so what. You're the one who tries to shove your irrational beliefs that U.S. citizens need to do what Australia has done.

What's more irrational is linking to a bogus article, whose main point--135 people massacred--has a link that leads to NOTHING.

 

[Bocefish]

This wasn't intended to turn into an argument, I just thought it was a funny story, but please don't try to bullshit us about our crime rates, we have considerably lower crime per population than the US. I go to the store and leave my apartment unlocked so I won't have to fumble for my keys with my hands full.

I also leave my home unlocked while on short errands, so what. You're the one who tries to shove your irrational beliefs that U.S. citizens need to do what Australia has done.

What's more irrational is linking to a bogus article, whose main point--135 people massacred--has a link that leads to NOTHING.

Here comes Nordling with his irrational reasoning of if it doesn't fit his progressive ideals the information is fabricated by right wing assholes.

http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=17847

 

[Nordling]

This wasn't intended to turn into an argument, I just thought it was a funny story, but please don't try to bullshit us about our crime rates, we have considerably lower crime per population than the US. I go to the store and leave my apartment unlocked so I won't have to fumble for my keys with my hands full.

I also leave my home unlocked while on short errands, so what. You're the one who tries to shove your irrational beliefs that U.S. citizens need to do what Australia has done.

What's more irrational is linking to a bogus article, whose main point--135 people massacred--has a link that leads to NOTHING.

Here comes Nordling with his irrational reasoning of if it doesn't fit his progressive ideals the information is fabricated by right wing assholes.

http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=17847

Ha! They're just quoting examiner.com's bogus shit.

 

[Bocefish]

This wasn't intended to turn into an argument, I just thought it was a funny story, but please don't try to bullshit us about our crime rates, we have considerably lower crime per population than the US. I go to the store and leave my apartment unlocked so I won't have to fumble for my keys with my hands full.

I also leave my home unlocked while on short errands, so what. You're the one who tries to shove your irrational beliefs that U.S. citizens need to do what Australia has done.

What's more irrational is linking to a bogus article, whose main point--135 people massacred--has a link that leads to NOTHING.

Here comes Nordling with his irrational reasoning of if it doesn't fit his progressive ideals the information is fabricated by right wing assholes.

http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=17847

Ha! They're just quoting examiner.com's bogus shit.

Prove it!

 

[Nordling]

At the bottom of the page:

For text:

http://www.examiner.com/x-2879-Austin-G ... te-gun-ban

 

[Bocefish]

Oh, I forgot the title is violet crime, lol.

 

[Nordling]

Huh?

 

[Bocefish]

Jupiter fears walking around in the USA because we're gonna shoot his ass due to our gun control laws, but Australia is worry free mate.

 

[Jupiter551]

This wasn't intended to turn into an argument, I just thought it was a funny story, but please don't try to bullshit us about our crime rates, we have considerably lower crime per population than the US. I go to the store and leave my apartment unlocked so I won't have to fumble for my keys with my hands full.

I also leave my home unlocked while on short errands, so what. You're the one who tries to shove your irrational beliefs that U.S. citizens need to do what Australia has done.

What's more irrational is linking to a bogus article, whose main point--135 people massacred--has a link that leads to NOTHING.

Here comes Nordling with his irrational reasoning of if it doesn't fit his progressive ideals the information is fabricated by right wing assholes.

http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=17847

Kind sir, please look at that graph and show me where exactly assault rose 49% in 2006, and robbery, which looks like it's been dropping the whole time, rose 6%. Those are the same statistics he's quoting from.

Btw sexual assault is NOT equivalent to rape, it is a range of offenses ranging from everything to groping all the way up to rape and sodomy.
According to those bullshit statistics Australia has a higher rate of rape than every muslim country and all the African countries lol...yeah right. More like they took the statistics from different sources/and or most rapes go unreported. The rape statistics the US stats are based on is the arrest rate of reported rapes: which is a deplorable 25%. Little wonder women are hesitant to report. 3 out of 4 accused rapists aren't even ARRESTED.

 

[Jupiter551]

Yeah it is violet crime, it was a joke about her handbag...and whatever, ask anyone on this board who has ever been to australia or anyone who lives here. We have FAR lower rates of violence than most countries in the world.

 

[Bocefish]

All I'm saying is one size doesn't fit all. Your leader contacted our leader and Joe Biden is now in charge of the "Task Force" of making decisions.

Stop comparing what you have done to what we need to do because that's not only ignorant but rude pushing your beliefs on us without truly knowing Americans or their lifestyle.

 

[Jupiter551]

http://data.un.org/Data.aspx?d=UNODC&f=tableCode:1
Actually our homicide rate appears to have dropped 70% since 1995. Mind you, we already have such a low murder rate that 70% is only .7 people per 100,000.
Yours however has apparently gone down from 4.9 - 4.2 per 100,000 (still more than 4x our rate but hey) and not quite the 70% we had but it's still headling in the right direction which is a good thing. Your statistics unfortunately only go back to 2001, so no columbine rates, but here's a comparison for those years.
http://data.un.org/Data.aspx?d=UNOD...&c=2,3,5,6,8,10&s=countryName:asc,yr:desc&v=1

Also, I'd like to just point out that while you might get your 'statistics' from places named things like 'the gun examiner' I actually go to the trouble to find the raw data, I'd appreciate if you'd do the same if you want to continue this discussion.

http://www.770kob.com/abc_news/arti...d_Countries/CA1888F449D811E2B03FFEFDADE6840A/

 

[Jupiter551]

All I'm saying is one size doesn't fit all. Your leader contacted our leader and Joe Biden is now in charge of the "Task Force" of making decisions.

Stop comparing what you have done to what we need to do because that's not only ignorant but rude pushing your beliefs on us without truly knowing Americans or their lifestyle.

I made this post about a woman holding up a gas station in a freaking zorro mask. I've been to the US a total of 5 times, including living for periods and working there. Not saying I know everything, but I suspect I know more about Americans and your way of life than you do about us.

 

[Bocefish]

All I'm saying is one size doesn't fit all. Your leader contacted our leader and Joe Biden is now in charge of the "Task Force" of making decisions.

Stop comparing what you have done to what we need to do because that's not only ignorant but rude pushing your beliefs on us without truly knowing Americans or their lifestyle.

I made this post about a woman holding up a gas station in a freaking zorro mask. I've been to the US a total of 5 times, including living for periods and working there. Not saying I know everything, but I suspect I know more about Americans and your way of life than you do about us.

You made this post about a woman holding up a gas station because of your holier than thou attitude and don't try to deny it. We don't give a shit about your little anecdotal comparisons because they mean zero to us here that actually live in the United States.

There may come a time when you realize your opinion means about as much as pigeon shit to Americans, but by all means keep striving for that goal.

 

[Nordling]

So, now you speak for ALL Americans?

 

[Bocefish]

So, now you speak for ALL Americans?

Only a moron like you would ask such a question. When was the last time you ever fought for something you believed in?

 

[LadyLuna]

Bocefish dear, I know you have very strong views, but seriously, how many threads do you need to overrun with this debate?

 

[Bocefish]

Bocefish dear, I know you have very strong views, but seriously, how many threads do you need to overrun with this debate?

Only for the ones that try to bullshit us with how the rainbow and ice cream reasoning will be plentiful if we ban inanimate objects. :mrgreen:

 

[LadyLuna]

Bocefish dear, I know you have very strong views, but seriously, how many threads do you need to overrun with this debate?

Only for the ones that try to bullshit us with how the rainbow and ice cream reasoning will be plentiful if we ban inanimate objects. :mrgreen:

I think their point is not that violent crime will be reduced. I think their point is that less people will die from it.

Just because I don't support taking away the right to own guns doesn't mean I can't see their point.

 

[Red7227]

Bocefish dear, I know you have very strong views, but seriously, how many threads do you need to overrun with this debate?

Only for the ones that try to bullshit us with how the rainbow and ice cream reasoning will be plentiful if we ban inanimate objects. :mrgreen:

I think their point is not that violent crime will be reduced. I think their point is that less people will die from it.

Just because I don't support taking away the right to own guns doesn't mean I can't see their point.

Australian Bureau of Statistics

In 2010, the Australian victimisation rates recorded by police for selected person offence categories were:
Murder, 1.0 victims per 100,000 persons
Attempted murder, 0.9 victims per 100,000 persons
Manslaughter, 0.1 victims per 100,000 persons
Sexual assault, 79.5 victims per 100,000 persons
Kidnapping/abduction, 2.7 victims per 100,000 persons
Robbery, 56.0 victims per 100,000 persons.


WEAPONS USED AGAINST VICTIMS OF CRIME RECORDED BY POLICE

In 2010, a weapon was used in 67% of murders, 71% of attempted murders, and 39% of robberies. The most common weapon type used in the commission of all three offences was a knife, which was used against 33% of murder, 28% of attempted murder, and 18% of robbery victims.

The next most common weapon type that was used against victims was a firearm, with 17% of murder, 24% of attempted murder, and 7% of robbery victims subjected to an offence involving a firearm.

The majority of sexual assault (98%), kidnapping/abduction (89%) and robbery victims (61%) did not have a weapon used against them in the commission of the offence.

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf ... tistics~63

 

[Zoomer]

Jupiter, good posting throughout

Bocefish - to be fair, it sounds like you're an internet warrior. The charging white knight of gun rights. I don't really think anyone cares about a lone view any more so I don't think you're going to change opinions or change whatever your President has in store by arguing back and forth over a forum... though I realise it may be cathartic in some way to do so. Efforts may be better served campaigning whomever in the "real world" as they say.

 

[AmberCutie]

From daily thoughts, image because it ain't linkin' properleeee.

 

[EdgarAllenWhoa]

^ above post

Thank you

 

[Jupiter551]

From daily thoughts, image because it ain't linkin' properleeee.

wtf is a 'slow loris' lol

 

[SatanJonez]

From daily thoughts, image because it ain't linkin' properleeee.

wtf is a 'slow loris' lol

Check the elementary school thread. Posted a video of one.