Hello again my friends. Again i apologize for my english, i'm really doing my best. In those months i've been working a lot about this subject.I thank all the people that gave me notions about it, especially donutsdealer. What i want to say, is that there are 2 completely different "worlds" that are hit by the "illegal cam recordings" phenomenon:
The first is the one of the "professional" models that work many hours and many days on the sites, that gained some "popularity" , that are used to release "premium videos" as raffle prizes, or as fidelity giftes, and then they see all for free on the "cam recording trade" sites, that generally, as i can see, make lots of money through advertising and banners, and THEN with membership subscriptions. This is the place where people look for things people could buy, and want for free. And the righteous anger that these sites inspire in the models can be compared to the feeling that had Metallica against Napster in the early 2000's. I mean: Metallica, not the Kiss Tribute Band that plays at the beer fair in the little town. For those kind of models, maybe, cam protection and other services could be useful.
But what made me begin this fight, has nothing to do with it. There is another "world". It's incredibly "close" to the one i talked about now, sometimes it's only a "avatar little square" away. But it's another world, and it's the one i met, and that doesn't let me sleep quietly, as i would.
Many girls have used MFC or the other cam sites for a few weeks or months only. Some have used them for many years, but only once a month or less, when they needed it or simply they wanted it (i'm not making the "bills paying" rethoric, here)... simply because these sites PERMITTED it. And, surely, these girls are the ones who, most of all, decided to enter the cam world thanks to the GEOLOCALIZATION POSSIBILITY. Yes, you can all say that it's easily breakable, ok, but, on contract was written this, and IT WORKED. It worked FOR YEARS... 9? 10? I know a pair of models that worked in years 2012, 2013 that LEFT NO TRACE IN THE NET. These girls didn't want popularity and surely didn't want enormous amounts of money. These girls, if they did 300 month staying a few hours on cam, it was gold. A pair of shoes, some accessories. A gift to grandma, or to the nephews. They had job and family. And for this reasons, they had ALL THE REASONS NOT TO BE NOTICED IN THEIR AREA. Since they are non-popular, they have NO economical problem AT ALL from the existence of those sites, nobody will look for their shows probably. But they have enormous LIFE problems from the existence of the TOTAL-RECORDING sites as MEGAFREE.... the ones based on upstore etc. The ones that, theoretically, make no money: if you look at them, there are NO ADS, NO BANNERS, NOTHING!!! They are not like the CAMWH... sites... that make money. Yes, there are the memberships, but who really would pay to download only public shows? So, my suspicion is that the business under the UPSTORE phenomenon is only based on blackmail to those "amateur"-"shy"-"good family"-"afraid to lose job"-"afraid that bf knows" models. In those years of "revenge porn", this is GOLD!!!! So, the only thing they write is the DMCA takedown request form, that is the real business, since it has the blackmail purpose.
Ok, it's only a suspicion, so, since can't sue them for blackmail, i reported them for all the other laws they are breaking, to FBI. But i'm an italian citizen. I had enormous problems to find the right office. I reported thm in MARCH!! And when i call them, they tell me i'm RIGHT, but they have to control this... control that... So i thought that the only way to CLOSE COMPLETELY those websites (i'm talking about the upstore-connected ones, i'm talking, in a way, of the "SECOND WORLD", ok?) is that you all write a mail to the same mail i wrote myself, talking about this law, but with words of your own. Not only. I wrote this to many adult sites that are based in USA, and FOLLOW THE LAWS, maybe they're not happy of it, but they follow it, telling them to report these sites too, because, if nobody does nothing, why should they follow the laws too? Why should they have the records and the ID's of the models? Why should there be a legal representant? if somebody can run a site without anything of these things, and still be free?
Hello!
I am an italian fan of naked women sites. I've been a member of your site too, in many occasions. This, only to say i have nothing against porn, i am porn-friendly. But here we're talking about something criminal, that has to do with blackmail.I know you are a site that follows the rules, and especially what laws say about this field. But there is someone that doesn't care about any rule (law or simply human). Now i'm here because i'm fighting a battle against a group of illegal sites that sell illegal camsites recordings.
I want to tell you i was, and still am, very serious about it. I'm putting my name, my face, and my effort on it, because i feel that the problem is even bigger and more dramatic than it seems.
I'll tell you more: even reading the models forums, i feel that also models, even if pissed off by it, don't realize totally the gravity of the situation, and how incredible it is that the sites are still running.
Reading the comments, i feel that models complain more about the fact they don't get money by it, instead of focusing on the real drama this situation can led to.
Maybe the problem is, that a person that i care for, is very nervous about it, and i had two nightmares about it, so i'm emotionally touched, but i want to do all my best to win the fight. It's not impossible, damn, it's simply a total illegal activity that EVERYBODY can see as illegal, and illegal activities have to be stopped or, at least, criminals have to FIGHT too to go on, but we can not let them live illegally in serenity. Generally, criminals think it's worth to fight against law and have a hard life about it, if the money is really good. But i don't think this guy makes A LOT of money. Obviously, if we let him do whatever he wants without even needing lawyers or, who knows, changing servers everyday, even if this makes him earn 1000 dollars a month, he will go on. Why stopping if nobody disturbs him??
I worked in broadcasting industry, i know a lot about it. In one of the radio groups i worked for, all servers were confiscated, because we didn’t pay a tax we didn’t even know it existed. WE were the ones that had to demonstrate that we payed it, NOT them, that we didn’t pay it!
So, the fact the sites are still running is something that makes my rage blow, also because I know the owner of this radio I worked for had a lot of problems, even if, after a few years, they told him he was right, and he already payed the tax through another tax. This, to say that the fact that the sites are running is a insult to all the people who respect law, and especially the ones who pay if they didn’t respect it.
The law, that’s what we’re talking about. It all concerns this. Someone of you, nearly all, focused on the copyright problem, but really, this is not the focus of the problem. The main “problem” for them should be the next law: 18 U.S.C. 2257 pertaining to the publication of photography and film in an electronic media.
It’s not a problem of “interpretation”: there is NO ONE THING in these sites that is ok with these laws.
Ok, you could say: but the servers are who knows where, in Cayman Islands, boh…. No: they’re in San Francisco, California, USA. First I tried to contact Italian police, but they told me that since the servers were not in Italy, they couldn’t do anything. I don’t even know how many forms I tried to send, but as I am not American, in some cases I can’t… well, at a certain point, I found a telephone number of FBI about internet crimes and I called… even better, there was a guy SPEAKING ITALIAN like me, so I really could express in my native language! Hurrah, I thought! The guy was really interested and told me to send a mail to a address he gave me, and this is the mail I sent on MARCH 25:
To.
shawca@state.gov
Hello!
First, i apologize for my english (i'm italian). I reported it to the postal police in Rome, via Trastevere 191. They told me it's outside of Italy, so they can't do anything. So i calledthe Secret Service number, and i also talked to an italian guy that gave me this e-mail. So i write to you.
I'm reporting you those sites, hoping you can block them. because, even if they sell pornographic videos, probably ALL stolen by webcams, of people totally UNAWARE of this "business" (somebody is making money with their image), they re AGAINST THE LAW, especially
18 U.S.C. 2257 pertaining to the publication of photography and film in an electronic media:
1) They don't show ANY PROOF of the age of the models involved, so they could be also of minor age
2) They don't show ANY PROOF of contracts or proof of OWNING THE RIGHTS to show and sell the images
3) They don't tell where the files are located, so there isn't any "CUSTODIAN OF RECORDS" sentence on the page.
4) They don't tellin the front page that they are a ADULT SITE, so they don't show any STOP like "ENTER" or "LEAVE" pages.
A legal site should display those information:
All models were 18 years or older at the times the pictures and or videos were created.
Any questions regarding the aforementioned items may be sent to (...e-mail)
All records and model identifications for all content shot and owned by (name of the company) is available at:
Custodian of Records
-name of the company
-street
-state
-country
I have an image, it can be clearly seen, in the last caps, a BLACK CHILD that enters the scene, when his MOM or ADULT WOMAN, after the exibition, falls asleep. The other images show clearly the MOM or ADULT WOMAN in the same room performing sexual acts.
If someone would know WHO IS THIS MOM that permits this, how could they ask? How can they have this video?
I have a big suspicion: these sites are built for BLACKMAIL PURPOSES. There is written only to "ask for removal", but when the person depicted in the images writes for removal, she will be asked for money not to show those images on socials etc, while now THEY OWN THE REAL NAME OF THE DEPICTED PERSON.
These are sites that already are illegal in themselves, but can lead to other, worse crimes, and also tragedies.
I hope you understand the danger of keeping sites like this running.
These are all the informations i found:
"MASTER SERVER" (Where all images are stored):
oop.bz (Hosting: CLOUDFLARE - SAN FRANCISCO - U.S.A.)
all info here:
http://oop.bz.ipaddress.com/
"CONNECTED SITES" (the sites that have LINKS to those images and that SELL the VIDEOS taken from webcams through UPSTORE):
teencamvideos.me (especially TEEN videos... HOW CAN WE KNOW THEY ARE NOT OF MINOR AGE??) - : all info here (hosting is CLOUDFLARE in SAN FRANCISCO - U.S.A.):
http://teencamvideos.me.ipaddress.com/
teencamvideos.me (especially TEEN videos... HOW CAN WE KNOW THEY ARE NOT OF MINOR AGE??) - : all info here (hosting is CLOUDFLARE in SAN FRANCISCO - U.S.A.):
http://teencamvideos.me.ipaddress.com/
megafreecamsvideos.net : all info here (hosting is CLOUDFLARE in SAN FRANCISCO - U.S.A.):
http://megafreecamsvideos.net.ipaddress.com/
megafreecams4you.com : all info here (hosting is CLOUDFLARE in SAN FRANCISCO - U.S.A.):
http://megafreecams4you.com.ipaddress.com
camgirlcaps.com : all info here (hosting is CLOUDFLARE in SAN FRANCISCO - U.S.A.)
http://camgirlcaps.com.ipaddress.com/
webcam-archiver.com: all info here (hosting is CLOUDFLARE in SAN FRANCISCO - U.S.A.):
http://webcam-archiver.com.ipaddress.com
[site name banned*10] : all info here (hosting is in NETHERLANDS). This was the OLD images storage site, still there are many links to this site, but it seems to be "dead" now, maybe after my report to dutch police.
http://[site name banned*10].ipaddress.com/
[site name banned*5].org : all info here (hosting is in NETHERLANDS):
http://[site name banned*5].org.ipaddress.com/
I'm available for all info you want to ask me, i thank you for your work and i hope this problem will be solved soon.
Thank you
Then i put my real name, my real address and my number in the letters.
Now, only to tell you I’m doing my best and I don’t think anybody did all this, at least reading what I read on forums, but I’m only an Italian guy that maybe is the last of their thoughts… So i didn't hear back from them... I have other ideas but I really need to talk with somebody who at least is American… and especially, you are THE ONES WHO FOLLOW THE LAW, and now you know that somebody else doesn't do it, and NOBODY DOES ANYTHING!!!! So, you could ask: "Why should we follow the law? Why should we keep records and all, when somebody else STEALS MATERIAL AND SELLS IT, without ANY legal information on the site, and NOBODY STOPS HIM?"
Thank you and keep the good work!
(my name)