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Does camming breed narcissism for both model/member or were they already narcissists long before?
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I scored 17 on the test (for what that's worth, I suspect not much); 0 were from vanity.
This whole topic a little confusing. "Narcissism" too vague at this point.
This whole topic a little confusing. "Narcissism" too vague at this point.
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My two cents
Even with all of the compliments a model receives, all, even the most beautiful will still get negative feedback based on their appearance. Sometimes negative comments can be pretty demoralizing, even if the comment was phrased as something positive, if it's something the model is self conscious about.
Tons and tons of positive comments can come off an insincere too. Sometimes members will lay on the compliments for attention or free flashes or something. It's easy to become jaded to that kind of stuff. I'm far more willing to believe and appreciate a member who's been around for a long time over someone who is brand new to the room. Neither of those things are typical of narcissism.
On the flip side, if someone hasn't had very many compliments in the "real world" and then they do in camland, that can definitely be a huge boost to one's confidence. I've seen a ton of girls mention that camming has made them more confident and happy with themselves and they spread that light and love to others. That's a wonderful thing really, and definitely not narcissism.
IMHO narcissism is generally predisposed rather than a learned condition and that can be found anywhere in any job or activity. Not saying that there aren't any models with narcissism, but it's probably not far off from the rest of the world.
Last point, looking nice is part of a model's job. If she has to spend hours prepping for camming or taking dozens of selfies a day for this sake, the motive present isn't fueled by narcissism, it's fueled by the fact that it's essential to her livelihood.
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Regarding the narcissism test, I scored a 12 out of 40. The answers were very limiting. For example, I don't prefer to follow orders because I know that when I am in a leadership position I do a better job. I would rather not be a leader and just work alone, but when teamwork is necessary I do better as a leader than if I were just a follower. There's added motivation when others are at stake. Being a good leader doesn't mean that someone is a narcissist, more so that someone is better at organizing what others do and better with encouragement among other things. Scoring a lower percentage doesn't mean that you're x% narcissist, it's an extremely high score with an over inflated sense of oneself that makes one.
Kind of like how scoring 10% on a schizophrenia test doesn't make you 10% schizophrenic. It's the majority of an entire set of traits that form a mental disorder.
Even with all of the compliments a model receives, all, even the most beautiful will still get negative feedback based on their appearance. Sometimes negative comments can be pretty demoralizing, even if the comment was phrased as something positive, if it's something the model is self conscious about.
Tons and tons of positive comments can come off an insincere too. Sometimes members will lay on the compliments for attention or free flashes or something. It's easy to become jaded to that kind of stuff. I'm far more willing to believe and appreciate a member who's been around for a long time over someone who is brand new to the room. Neither of those things are typical of narcissism.
On the flip side, if someone hasn't had very many compliments in the "real world" and then they do in camland, that can definitely be a huge boost to one's confidence. I've seen a ton of girls mention that camming has made them more confident and happy with themselves and they spread that light and love to others. That's a wonderful thing really, and definitely not narcissism.
IMHO narcissism is generally predisposed rather than a learned condition and that can be found anywhere in any job or activity. Not saying that there aren't any models with narcissism, but it's probably not far off from the rest of the world.
Last point, looking nice is part of a model's job. If she has to spend hours prepping for camming or taking dozens of selfies a day for this sake, the motive present isn't fueled by narcissism, it's fueled by the fact that it's essential to her livelihood.
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Regarding the narcissism test, I scored a 12 out of 40. The answers were very limiting. For example, I don't prefer to follow orders because I know that when I am in a leadership position I do a better job. I would rather not be a leader and just work alone, but when teamwork is necessary I do better as a leader than if I were just a follower. There's added motivation when others are at stake. Being a good leader doesn't mean that someone is a narcissist, more so that someone is better at organizing what others do and better with encouragement among other things. Scoring a lower percentage doesn't mean that you're x% narcissist, it's an extremely high score with an over inflated sense of oneself that makes one.
Kind of like how scoring 10% on a schizophrenia test doesn't make you 10% schizophrenic. It's the majority of an entire set of traits that form a mental disorder.
oXBlackRoseXo
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I'd say amplified or even developed. I'm just starting out, I've never been real shy, but my honest thoughts were basically "I'll give it a shot for lack of better options, but I doubt anyone wants to see a mom of 3 under 3 naked in all my stretch marked c section scar, stitched vag glory..." low and behold though... And I think you have to develop a bit of a narcissistic streak when you are trying to sell your personality and body as goods. I know I've been told insecurity is a turn off so I mostly try to fake it even if I'm not feeling super confident of whether I look fat at whatever angle or whatever else it happens to be.
Ok, I will bite. To consider the original question, "Are models and members more narcissistic as a result of camming" assumes that what the models and the members present in camworld is their true self, but I think most portray a projected self. In personality type theory of psych has a general principal is that there is the true self, the projected self and perceived self.
I think that the majority in camwold, 70% in the middle of the bell curve, models and members show a projected self, but not their true self. This 70% is projecting a character they play out, many of those characters are narcissistic but they are not the true self. There is the other 30% do show their true self some show a crazy self and some others undetermined and some are narcissistic but who is true and project, who the hell knows.
I think that the majority in camwold, 70% in the middle of the bell curve, models and members show a projected self, but not their true self. This 70% is projecting a character they play out, many of those characters are narcissistic but they are not the true self. There is the other 30% do show their true self some show a crazy self and some others undetermined and some are narcissistic but who is true and project, who the hell knows.
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I think there are 3 types of people.
People who are already narcissistic to some degree, people who are not narcissistic at all, and people who can be emotionally swayed towards narcissism given the right formula and opportunity. I believe most people are the last one.
People who are already narcissistic to some degree, people who are not narcissistic at all, and people who can be emotionally swayed towards narcissism given the right formula and opportunity. I believe most people are the last one.
On my past in Jasmin i've noticed different peoples in members.
Thoses one who act like if they were making an administrative thing (Polite but distant ) after the private done they leave after a good bye.
There are other members who talks at different level:
- Thoses who talks about their everiday life or neutral subject.
Thoses who includes their personnal life.
The ass lickers who spend their times making compliment to the model in them there is some guys who tries to rule the room and yell to the other members to vote or than some compliments are not strong enough.
The rude ones (hi sl..t show ass)
I think at less the member is distant as more there is narcissistic behavior.
To my personnal experience i've been from a distant but polite member to a talkative member when my real life started to sucks. It was in my head like "Cool somebody is polite with me talking with me normally" when we were talking about a neutral subject i was glad to show my capacity to debate.
When i've been able to deal with real world i came back to polite but distant member before leaving jasmin.
For model category i've seen a large part of model being thanksful to some members who were treating them as human being.
-I've seen other who were asking "first vote me now give me 5 stars now tip me" very narcissistic according to me.
-I've seen one model nice but who was talking about her personnal life asking to other people very personnal answering phone without putting camera off and in a conversation changing what members were saying to talk about herself. Very narcissistic too.
Can we talk about narcissism about model in Jasmin? It sounds like very different from other camsite.
Thoses one who act like if they were making an administrative thing (Polite but distant ) after the private done they leave after a good bye.
There are other members who talks at different level:
- Thoses who talks about their everiday life or neutral subject.
Thoses who includes their personnal life.
The ass lickers who spend their times making compliment to the model in them there is some guys who tries to rule the room and yell to the other members to vote or than some compliments are not strong enough.
The rude ones (hi sl..t show ass)
I think at less the member is distant as more there is narcissistic behavior.
To my personnal experience i've been from a distant but polite member to a talkative member when my real life started to sucks. It was in my head like "Cool somebody is polite with me talking with me normally" when we were talking about a neutral subject i was glad to show my capacity to debate.
When i've been able to deal with real world i came back to polite but distant member before leaving jasmin.
For model category i've seen a large part of model being thanksful to some members who were treating them as human being.
-I've seen other who were asking "first vote me now give me 5 stars now tip me" very narcissistic according to me.
-I've seen one model nice but who was talking about her personnal life asking to other people very personnal answering phone without putting camera off and in a conversation changing what members were saying to talk about herself. Very narcissistic too.
Can we talk about narcissism about model in Jasmin? It sounds like very different from other camsite.
oXBlackRoseXo
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I am totally the last one. I just signed off and let me just tell you all, I feel like one hot bitch right now lol. God this is addictive lol
love you all and this forum 
*2 because Rose is definitely a narcissist lol
I suspect camming doesn't breed much change in narcissists, it can bring more confidence for some people, so they may expect more from their interactions not develop a personality disorder.
I won't speak of members as a group, most of us are far more messed up than the models we chase. I would guess that narcissists are very common (men tend to be prone to it more than women).
Where models possess a personality disorder of some kind, I usually find that Histrionic and Antisocial behaviors are more common than Narcissistic.
Starting out with exploring models I used to look for the narcissists, they can give good private shows extremely cheaply by catering to their need for attention. They look quite confident and strong, so they tend to do well enough as models, but I wouldn't call them typical of most models.
Histrionic attention seeking and Antisocial behavior is far more common in a model, far more manipulative, and much less fun for us members. Antisocial types tend to ban and run when they get caught out and their behavior isn't attention seeking, it is deliberate. When offended, Histrionic types get emotional or try to seduce you back; they tend to be seductive in their behavior, not confident. Both type is self absorbed.
When they don't get their way narcissists won't have any empathy for you at all so will just assume you don't see their perfection and deep down label you a loser for not seeing that. They won't get too upset when offended, and after a cool off period may even approach you as though nothing has happened if you serve their ego.
I won't speak of members as a group, most of us are far more messed up than the models we chase. I would guess that narcissists are very common (men tend to be prone to it more than women).
Where models possess a personality disorder of some kind, I usually find that Histrionic and Antisocial behaviors are more common than Narcissistic.
Starting out with exploring models I used to look for the narcissists, they can give good private shows extremely cheaply by catering to their need for attention. They look quite confident and strong, so they tend to do well enough as models, but I wouldn't call them typical of most models.
Histrionic attention seeking and Antisocial behavior is far more common in a model, far more manipulative, and much less fun for us members. Antisocial types tend to ban and run when they get caught out and their behavior isn't attention seeking, it is deliberate. When offended, Histrionic types get emotional or try to seduce you back; they tend to be seductive in their behavior, not confident. Both type is self absorbed.
When they don't get their way narcissists won't have any empathy for you at all so will just assume you don't see their perfection and deep down label you a loser for not seeing that. They won't get too upset when offended, and after a cool off period may even approach you as though nothing has happened if you serve their ego.
I find the combination of histrionic and narcissistic behavior (add in psychopathic as well) can be quite prominent in the same individual.
Of equal importance is their bank account and the fantasies of what they will buy with the money they will rake in from having you as a source.
When narcissists don't get their way, they can become a bit vindictive....And things can get very interesting when there are secrets involved, a bit of codependency, and a struggle for power. Especially when they find out that what they want is available to others, but not to them. It's very insulting to their ego.
oXBlackRoseXo
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Wow, that feels harsh. I'm not anti social, and I've only banned like 2 people, one for posting links randomly and the other for demanding I mod them, and I'm pretty sure I just silenced the second for 6 hours. I am sure I have some kind of disorder and label lol, but the descriptions you have don't seem right. I'm loving camming, totally. Why? Well if I'm being honest it's because it fills a little void in my life. It gives me a place to go to feel sexy and desired and the compliments are addictive considering I spend most of my life changing dirty diapers, cooking, cleaning and covered in baby puke. Camming to me is a small escape from the mundane and gives me a chance to feel like a beautiful, desirable woman again when I felt like I had lost myself in just being "mommy." I'm getting more confident with it because I'm being told I'm pretty/hot/sexy and that is an ego boost I enjoy and need in my life, but I wouldn't say that's a narcissistic thing as much as it's nice to not feel broken and ruined given other personal things life has thrown at me lately. Am I trying to seduce people? You're damn right I am lol, but I'm just as happy sitting around talking guns and politics as anything because it's the interaction I want. But when you're on a site where your basically getting paid to get nude, you feel like people come there to be seduced and I'm a people pleaser, so of course that's what I try to do. Obviously, as my previous post shows, I do get to feeling really good about myself after a bottle of wine and a night full of compliments, but today I'm back in the land of baby poop and bottles and trust me, seduction and "how great I am" is not even on the radar. Maybe the narcissistic streak is because we all want somewhere to feel like we are special and amazing, and camming offers us a platform to let go of the real world and let ourselves believe we are for a bit. I know personally it's more of an act than anything for me, but that fantasy gives me back a little sanity and recharges my batteries a little so I can deal with the real world again the next morning.
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