DO USERS ON CAM SITES ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT THE MODEL?

[Gia666]

I feel I already know the answer to this, which is no. My experience has been that I am just an “object” to jerk to. And as soon as you are done, I’m forgotten and you go about your business. It is sad for me to think like this, but that has mostly been my experience while on cb exclusively. Anybody have a different experience? Where the users actually care about you as a person outside of your lady parts?

 

[Fatquack]

I can only speak for myself, but I do.

 

[MaePeach]

Personally, I've made great friendships with members. I didn't do well on CB so I'm only speaking from my experience on MFC which is quite community based. I'm sorry you're feeling this way.

 

[Finchomatic]

For the guys who just wank and dash. Give them no emotion and go about your day. As hard as it may seem, they are just random people who deserve no more attention than the next.

 

[dark_mermaid]

You'll have such users and such users on every site. My regulars from cb have been great over years.

 

[imTheSupremeOne]

Personally I would have problems with thinking the opposite — if someone is not seeing me just as an empty doll, I would feel bad because it's like I'm selling a friendship or even a relationships...

 

[jekster]

If I build an online relationship with a model, I will keep coming back and supporting them via tokens or chatting in her room. A fun room can encourage others to join, stay and participate as well.

I'm about to hit two years with my favourite model (and have around 95% attendance). While I could gush about her all day - I'll leave it at that.

 

[Gia_Xo]

I assume I am just an object to jerk to, and that's ok. I take EVERYTHING members say with a grain of salt. "Oh I have missed you!", "Oh you know you're my favorite model!" or "You are the hottest girl on this site" - 95% BS (Sorry to the members here if I'm generalizing and this isn't you, buuuut it's mostly the case!). They leave my room eventually, or I will log off, and they are in the next room saying the same things to the next girl. It's a vast menu of girls, and honestly- if I were a member and not a model, I'd eventually want something new from the menu; something different.
I have made one friend out of a member- and it was even a gray! (GASP!)...but back in my early days, when I didn't know any better, I made him a mod because he made me laugh and he wasn't pushy at all. We still chat almost every day, even though he's not able to be online when I am that much anymore. It's definitely possible to grow a real friendship from the sites, but I think it would be very naive to think most members in our rooms actually care about us outside of what we're selling. Maybe I am just cynical, but that is how I personally look at it.

 

[Petsod]

I'll try have some kind of relationship with my favorite women, if i just need an jerk object i look at some random porn.

 

[MarieElise]

I feel like some do, but the majority do not. As long as they pay me fairly for our time together, I don't care. It is always heartwarming when one does express caring though, and I have quite a few do that, in a way that I believe, that it is genuine. I think with a lot of people there is a gap between what they may be feeling, and what they actually express. So I like to think that more probably care than actually express it. However, I am sure there are MANY who plainly do not at all, in the slightest.

 

[CanadianCowboy]

I feel like a lot more of us do than models realize, if we didn't care then we wouldn't give them thousands of dollars a month (I know the vast majority don't spend that much but I did). I feel like the vast majority of members feel as though nodels couldn't care any less about us and don't necessarily view us, only how deep our pockets are. Again I know that's not the case with all models but it certainly happens.

 

[AudriTwo]

I'm 100% okay with being masturbation material. My approach to canming is different than most people, very detached and a little cynical. I do have regulars who I know care for me, and I care about them, but it isn't something I'm seeking or wanting. It's like a mutual respect?

I know I have mentioned this book more than I can count, Thriving in Sex Work. It has helped me with a lot of emotional stress this job puts you through. I recently picked up the audiobook to listen to while I grocery shop.

 

[JickyJuly]

It's pretty much like any other service industry job except that you can take it too personally. As sex is controversial, you can turn these feelings into negativity toward men or toward yourself. Really though, as someone who's done hair and waitressed, you meet similar types of people in all. Most people are polite and just there to eat or have their hair done. A few people see treating service people like garbage as a perk of going to them. Some people actively try to shortchange waitstaff or salon workers. And, there are always a good handful that really are there to interact with another human. They see you. They want to be seen, and they intend to both treat you well and pay for the whole deal. Be aware of the first 3, but don't let them overshadow the 4th. Those are the people that make the world feel like a decent place to be.

 

[cbhours]

The vast majority of the users don't care about the model.....we call those people greys

 

[Gia666]

Well I am quite jaded and depressed from being a cam model on CB for the last 1.5 years. Every time I log on now I can’t even pay users to come to my room. I feel ugly, even though I know I’m not. And users that liked me when I was naked just come in and leave because I’m not showing anything. I’m only slightly liked and valued when I am totally naked and f*cking myself on CB. It does not feel good. And I do not know why I keep trying. And users only talk to me on CB when I’m naked,. Im NOT liked or valued otherwise, very sad industry for me to be in

 

[Mila_]

Well I am quite jaded and depressed from being a cam model on CB for the last 1.5 years. Every time I log on now I can’t even pay users to come to my room. I feel ugly, even though I know I’m not. And users that liked me when I was naked just come in and leave because I’m not showing anything. I’m only slightly liked and valued when I am totally naked and f*cking myself on CB. It does not feel good. And I do not know why I keep trying. And users only talk to me on CB when I’m naked,. Im NOT liked or valued otherwise, very sad industry for me to be in

It sounds like this frustrating situation has taken a toll on your mental health and your self esteem. It might be good to take some time off... put your time into activities that are less linked to your self image so you can rest from the feelings of inadequacy and the lingering sensation that you might not be good enough. Do something that is easy and fun and where -if you don’t succeed- you don’t feel like it speaks about you as a person. Nobody should put themselves in a position where they feel bad about themselves. There are X number of reasons why a model might be successful and another one might not and a lot of it has to do with luck and charisma which are 2 things we don’t control. This is why I see amazing girls who never find their groove and move on even though they are beautiful and interesting and smart... it really does come down to dumb sheer luck. Try something else if this job is making you feel like this, it truly isn’t worth it especially if you aren’t earning even min wage. You can reassess later... sometimes it’s just a really shitty season and if you come back in a few months it works itself out.

 

[Gia666]

I am smart and have charisma , but think I have bad luck on CB. I tried off and on for 3 hrs and made $5.95
.what saddens me the most is I use to do quite well and get a lot of privates. This week has been the worst. And when you can’t even get viewers to come in, or talk you really do feel worthless.

 

[KristinKervz]

It sounds like this frustrating situation has taken a toll on your mental health and your self esteem. It might be good to take some time off... put your time into activities that are less linked to your self image so you can rest from the feelings of inadequacy and the lingering sensation that you might not be good enough. Do something that is easy and fun and where -if you don’t succeed- you don’t feel like it speaks about you as a person. Nobody should put themselves in a position where they feel bad about themselves. There are X number of reasons why a model might be successful and another one might not and a lot of it has to do with luck and charisma which are 2 things we don’t control. This is why I see amazing girls who never find their groove and move on even though they are beautiful and interesting and smart... it really does come down to dumb sheer luck. Try something else if this job is making you feel like this, it truly isn’t worth it especially if you aren’t earning even min wage. You can reassess later... sometimes it’s just a really shitty season and if you come back in a few months it works itself out.

I think this is great advice. Maybe after your break, try something in sex work other than camming. Clips, phone sex, sexting, etc. You may find more fulfillment that way. I myself sometimes take months off cam. I need to, I get burnt out and bitter. So I use that time off to rank up on other platforms or work on new projects.

 

[Deleted member 37064]

Well I am quite jaded and depressed from being a cam model on CB for the last 1.5 years. Every time I log on now I can’t even pay users to come to my room. I feel ugly, even though I know I’m not. And users that liked me when I was naked just come in and leave because I’m not showing anything. I’m only slightly liked and valued when I am totally naked and f*cking myself on CB. It does not feel good. And I do not know why I keep trying. And users only talk to me on CB when I’m naked,. Im NOT liked or valued otherwise, very sad industry for me to be in

As a member, I will say that this goes both ways. Personally, I had great interactions with most of the models I got to know. While there was very much a physical attraction that drew me in. It was much more than that which I kept coming back to. Personality, how she conducted herself and how her room was, etc. were the "intangibles" that I admired. In many ways, I considered them friends. Didn't matter if they were fully clothed, or if we were in private enjoying each other's company.

But, as I mentioned in other threads, I knew it was more or less a business/transaction based friendship where once the tips stopped coming in, the communication would stop. It was expected it would happen, so it wasn't surprising. But, on some level, one would think that a multi-year "friendship" would go deeper than just tokens. With a few models, this holds true.

I even had a conversation with one of the model friends I still chat with on occasion. One of us will message the other just to say "Hi", and she'll send some pictures to me. Sometimes it's just daily life pictures, other time it's model photos. While I'm appreciative of her sending the photos, I mentioned to her that she didn't have to. I'm more than happy to enjoy her friendship, and in many ways I preferred the daily life photos more. I've always been this way with her, as well as other models and stated so.

 

[NotYou]

I used to see models just as an object until I started being more frequent and talking. I didn't see you/them as an object in a bad or negative way, more so the fact that you were a way in which I could get my jolly off.
For the most part if I see a new model and watch, talk etc then it's not that I really care about her but it's also not that I don't care or see her solely as an object. I really understand that you're human, you have feelings, emotions and problems of your own. So it's not like I would want to see any of them in discomfort or pain or anything else, but at the same time I could easily stop visiting them or not worry about you/them when I leave your room.

However, for those that I frequent and chat with a lot it's completely different. I truly do care and I am someone who is there if they want/need me.

I guess for me, you could imagine it like friends. Friends on social media, some are just there and not real friends, but then you have a select few who are close.

 

[Deleted member 37064]

I am smart and have charisma , but think I have bad luck on CB. I tried off and on for 3 hrs and made $5.95
.what saddens me the most is I use to do quite well and get a lot of privates. This week has been the worst. And when you can’t even get viewers to come in, or talk you really do feel worthless.

I think things are still generally slow for many models. the couple i still talk to, they have commented that while it's picked up a little, it's still very slow for them. As usual, there's some models that will always do well. But, even then have days where they are down compared to others.

As @Mila_ said, it might be good to take a break, and find something you enjoy to help take your mind off things. Any hobbies, or something you might be interested in? Friends to hang out with, or perhaps borrow equipment from if they do an activity you're interested in.

I know this may not be entirely possible due to finances. But, perhaps taking a break from camming wouldn't be a bad idea? I've never seen your show, so I can't comment on it one way or the other.

Whatever you do, the best of luck to you

 

[Tinydickman]

The models do not care about me so why should I care about them.

I used to care until I noticed models would stop talking to me when the tips stopped.

It's business transaction to me everytime I visit now, it's the models job to give me a satisfactory show for the tokens I give. If not then I make it clear and give them a bad rating and on to the next

If they do well then I will follow them and maybe return again.

There is no longer any small talk or niceties, I'm done with that. Give me what I want for the tokens or someone else will.

 

[Lintilla]

The models do not care about me so why should I care about them.

I used to care until I noticed models would stop talking to me when the tips stopped.

It's business transaction to me everytime I visit now, it's the models job to give me a satisfactory show for the tokens I give. If not then I make it clear and give them a bad rating and on to the next

If they do well then I will follow them and maybe return again.

There is no longer any small talk or niceties, I'm done with that. Give me what I want for the tokens or someone else will.

Good. Thank you. But I wouldn't say that they don't care about you--they care about you in a way that's appropriate to your relationship. Fortunately or unfortunately, yes, it's a transactional one for the most part. Certainly at first.

There are members that I do consider friends, but I wish the difference was more obvious to people. Even when I do have a close "relationship" with a member, most of them are aware that it's more business than personal, and keep that respectful distance. I consider camming to be an acting job.

I'll chat and be friendly (to a point) with anyone who comes through my room, but just like real life, there are very few that I'd actually like to form a friendship with. And models talk to hundreds of guys in a night. Be realistic about it, for sure.

 

[Danigirl]

I'm fine with Dani being a sex object. That's why we have our cam personas - so we can shed it when the cams turn off. I'm on a porn site by choice and those who treat it strictly transactional are way more preferable than those seeking to get way too personal. Not that I haven't made friends in members or got to know them and enjoy chatting. But when members get too close sometimes the boundaries get way too blurred for them and someone gets hurt. It won't be me in most cases. I can detach very easily if I sense blurred roles and I do not want burnouts.
I do have tons of awesome members who come in and we always catch up even if there's no tokens that day or whatever. I like that they paid attention and they like that I remembered things about them. But again, as long as guys are respectful, feel free to tip me and leave after satisfied.

I would agree to try other platforms if your mental health is suffering. I'm already working hard on onlyfans and clip making. There's other ways to do this business!!

 

[Finchomatic]

Coming back to this thread up until recently I cared about a few I followed and communicated with over the years. But until recently I've decided that caring creates emotions and attachments. Emotions and attachments cause unwanted problems and issues. Especially when 'many' care about the same person but don't really care about each other, therefore a conflict arises.

Rock ( ) Hardplace

 

[Cheesecake]

I was always honest why I started camming and a few members in the beginning always check in, some say I seem happier today, etc. I think many members do care about the model.

When my laptop broke on a screen when i was new on CB in a broadcast, the few who didn't see me online for the 2 months it take to deal with that said they were worried about me, even a few checked in on my snap during that duration off and it encouraged me to go back on CB when it was fixed. Many REALLY do form bonds to you and you learn about them as well. So yes, many care.

I am smart and have charisma , but think I have bad luck on CB. I tried off and on for 3 hrs and made $5.95
.what saddens me the most is I use to do quite well and get a lot of privates. This week has been the worst. And when you can’t even get viewers to come in, or talk you really do feel worthless.

I want to add that some days/weeks seem to be better than others. Certain hours, etc. If you aren't making anything turn it off or try another site . I have many days where I am on 7 hours and make $8, but my viewpoint is "I am trying to build a following and if i gain that in time the money will come". You are never worthless. You are a wonderful, beautiful, smart, and charismatic person and you even know that. It may just be a crappy day. As others said, a break may help, another site, etc.

 

[NotYou]

Coming back to this thread up until recently I cared about a few I followed and communicated with over the years. But until recently I've decided that caring creates emotions and attachments. Emotions and attachments cause unwanted problems and issues. Especially when 'many' care about the same person but don't really care about each other, therefore a conflict arises.

Rock ( ) Hardplace

Way too much jealous between members, and this isn't even always big or whale tippers. I just talk and laugh with models and guys get jealous. I mean, wtf?! I would have thought if you like and enjoy the mode/s, you'd love to see them be happy and laughing enjoying themselves, instead of sitting or lying all sad and miserable.