Did i do good that I banned him?

[BlackWizard]

New tipper came to my room, tipped for control, he was very talkative, after control we were talking about many things, also music . He said: I saw Ozzy in 1989, i was 13 that time.

I banned him.
We an members are not allowed to even mention that we/ they were underage- am i right?

 

[Vixxen81]

Does ahegao fall into this category? I always thought that was a huge aspect of anime age play. Please correct me if I'm off-kilter here.

 

[MarieElise]

Does ahegao fall into this category? I always thought that was a huge aspect of anime age play. Please correct me if I'm off-kilter here.

I don’t do it because I was taught that’s where it originated. I’m shocked so many models do it so openly. I think many are not aware of its history, or associations.

 

[Vixxen81]

I don’t do it because I was taught that’s where it originated. I’m shocked so many models do it so openly. I think many are not aware of its history, or associations.

I don't do it because I was taught that, too (I also think I'd look flippin ridiculous doing it but understand that's part of the point). It seems to have sort of died down on CB unless the model happens to be Asian. I know a certain style of pigtail (Laura Ingles) will get you banned but Chrissy Snow (Three's Company) pigtails are ok. Schoolgirl outfits also a no and I don't see a lot of knee-high socks anymore, either.

 

[MarieElise]

I don't do it because I was taught that, too (I also think I'd look flippin ridiculous doing it but understand that's part of the point). It seems to have sort of died down on CB unless the model happens to be Asian. I know a certain style of pigtail (Laura Ingles) will get you banned but Chrissy Snow (Three's Company) pigtails are ok. Schoolgirl outfits also a no and I don't see a lot of knee-high socks anymore, either.

Yeah the pigtails part bums me out because I’ve long loved pigtails. All the adult women in my family always used them to curl, and crimp long hair. But they have that association. It sucks. But it is what it is.

Glad to hear it’s died down on CB. It’s still in the fairly rampant stage on SM, and is even still a pre-programmed option on the standard tip menu

 

[Vixxen81]

Yeah the pigtails part bums me out because I’ve long loved pigtails. All the adult women in my family always used them to curl, and crimp long hair. But they have that association. It sucks. But it is what it is.

Glad to hear it’s died down on CB. It’s still in the fairly rampant stage on SM, and is even still a pre-programmed option on the standard tip menu

Wow, a hard coded ahegao menu item. That's wow. Aggressive, even. Can you leave it blank and it doesn't show?

I had to learn how to curl my hair with an iron because of the pigtail thing. I've learned Aspercreme on the burns from the iron not only stops the pain immediately but within a couple of hours the burn spot is brown and scabby instead of bright pink.

 

[Wuggie]

SO many things I had never thought about, I had NO clue about ahegao origin, I just always thought it looked odd, I never realized the pigtails were a banned thing, to me it was just a hairstyle and school girl uniforms I just associated with small tops and a skirt.. I guess I'm naive and never thought of the associations with these

 

[MarieElise]

Wow, a hard coded ahegao menu item. That's wow. Aggressive, even. Can you leave it blank and it doesn't show?

I had to learn how to curl my hair with an iron because of the pigtail thing. I've learned Aspercreme on the burns from the iron not only stops the pain immediately but within a couple of hours the burn spot is brown and scabby instead of bright pink.

Oh yes, sorry, I didn’t explain that very thoroughly. All we have are hard coded options, but we have hundreds. So you don’t have to pick it, or offer it. But I’d certainly be happier if it wasn’t there at all.

God I’m making SM sound so dark. That kinda has been my experience there though. It’s totally not all those groups of people, but lots of them are there alongside too.

These new restrictions went too far. So I’m not saying I support them or anything. However, I did notice that that is one positive aspect, since they have been made, due to the Pornhub NY Times article. I get way less age play and race play requests. Before they used to be all night long. And I know a lot of other SM models experienced that too, because we all used to talk about it behind the scenes, and how depressing and distressing it was to field that all shift.

 

[MarieElise]

SO many things I had never thought about, I had NO clue about ahegao origin, I just always thought it looked odd, I never realized the pigtails were a banned thing, to me it was just a hairstyle and school girl uniforms I just associated with small tops and a skirt.. I guess I'm naive and never thought of the associations with these

Honestly, I totally get what you mean. I never thought of any of that stuff until I’ve been in this business a couple years and noticed certain requests, and the directions they tended to move. It really is an ignorance is bliss type deal.

I thought adult schoolgirl was sexy yada yada, but then started to see certain things and realize oh no this has a very strong connotation to a certain group of people, who I don’t want to attract as a following. And that’s not something I want to feed into. Even if many people are not thinking of that way. I couldn’t say it was a majority type situation or anything, but it’s definitely a big pool, and a large crowd.

 

[rockin_rod]

The pigtail thing is very interesting, I had not heard of that triggering a ban on CB.

@BlackWizard really glad to see you added the response from CB Support for others to see
(and who'd have thought that in CB terminology, 'disengage with' = 'ban')

 

[Wuggie]

Honestly, I totally get what you mean. I never thought of any of that stuff until I’ve been in this business a couple years and noticed certain requests, and the directions they tended to move. It really is an ignorance is bliss type deal.

I thought adult schoolgirl was sexy yada yada, but then started to see certain things and realize oh no this has a very strong connotation to a certain group of people, who I don’t want to attract as a following. And that’s not something I want to feed into. Even if many people are not thinking of that way. I couldn’t say it was a majority type situation or anything, but it’s definitely a big pool, and a large crowd.

I can fully understand, I never saw any of this years ago as a couple but I might also just have been ignorant as heck, and clearly as a solo broadcaster, I did not get requests for schoolgirl and ponytails

The closest I've ever gotten was someone in his 60s wanting me to be his poolboy I guess xD

 

[woodinho]

He supports you, he feels so comfortable with you that he shares “experiences” from his life with you and you Ban him? Sorry but this is so fkd up...he was talking about HIMSELF and his experiences at a CONCERT. Where exactly in your confused head do you make a sexual reference to this story? And then you come here, knowing full well that what you did was wrong, to cleanse your guilty conscience from your soul. Bravo.

 

[AmberCutie]

He supports you, he feels so comfortable with you that he shares “experiences” from his life with you and you Ban him? Sorry but this is so fkd up...he was talking about HIMSELF and his experiences at a CONCERT. Where exactly in your confused head do you make a sexual reference to this story? And then you come here, knowing full well that what you did was wrong, to cleanse your guilty conscience from your soul. Bravo.

You’re missing the point completely: she may risk her own account being banned for not banning someone who speaks about themself as a minor, no matter how harmless the conversation could have been.

Glad you’re here at ACF, maybe you’ll learn something about what cam models have to consider and pay attention to and deal with.

 

[Vixxen81]

He supports you, he feels so comfortable with you that he shares “experiences” from his life with you and you Ban him? Sorry but this is so fkd up...he was talking about HIMSELF and his experiences at a CONCERT. Where exactly in your confused head do you make a sexual reference to this story? And then you come here, knowing full well that what you did was wrong, to cleanse your guilty conscience from your soul. Bravo.

Oh do go step off a cliff my dude. Official Chaturbate Support said she was in the right to do so.

 

[MarieElise]

@woodinho Where exactly in your confused head do you think that you know better than sites and models who've been doing this for decades ? Reactive, rude and dumb

 

[rockin_rod]

Unusual first post after just signing up here today. Interested, or invested?
Either way, hope you reconsider your initial uninformed comments after thinking about what any broadcaster has to lose from not taking the same action if someone brings up this major taboo topic.

 

[Marceline]

Unusual first post after just signing up here today. Interested, or invested?

Methinks invested, possibly the person who got banned.

 

[MarieElise]

Usually when that happens with me, and I’m thinking that it was just innocent, I give a serious verbal warning. But if the person starts arguing and getting argumentative about a verbal warning, I will ban them, because it’s not worth risking my job over someone else’s unawareness of context. These are adult sex sites. They have rules. People can’t just drop their guard and completely forget their context, and relax 100%, and say whatever comes to their mind. They need to know that, and when somebody does make a mistake, a real responsible adult will say to themself “oh man that was my mistake. I wasn’t thinking.” They will not say; “oh Cam models are all bitches. I never spending money on another cam model again.” Those are the kind of immature types we don’t need causing problems and stirring shit anyways. I just don’t want to feed into those types of guys being around, and expecting more than is fair.

And any man that pesters you for that, after the fact, maybe isn’t as good of a client, or understanding cool person.

If that's what we're all thinking, then I'd like to bump this part of a previous post I made in this thread for Wooden Head's, ahem cough cough , Wood In Ho's benefit.
This is even more relevant since Nov 2021 when a lot of the adult sites implemented major changes, and tightened up ship way, way WAY more than before. Now, as models, and business people we have no choice but to cover our own asses first. Got a problem with it, go bother Mastercard.

 

[woodinho]

Since you are all so morally uplifted, I will answer you all at once. No, I am not the banned user. I've been on these pages since decades as well, I always talk about my past and the girls/women's past and no one has been banned for it (probably because these conversations always take place in the PM and not in the general chat)
what do you expect how the support reacts? do you realize how much they have to do? im pretty sure they didnt even take a closer look into this conversation. she could have banned him for less and she would had get the same respond from the support.

dude respected her work and talked about his past nothing else happend and ya'll make a whole pedophile thread about it... where are you all when it comes to all those #Daddy broadcasters?

 

[MarieElise]

Since you are all so morally uplifted,

Yes, we have functioning brains and can read. Morals have nothing to do with this conversation

I love it how when some people don’t have a legitimate leg to stand on in an argument, they just start going off on unrelated tangents. If you want more responses and attention from me, say something that is a legitimate argument, and not more haverings of the unhinged.

 

[Wuggie]

Since you are all so morally uplifted, I will answer you all at once. No, I am not the banned user. I've been on these pages since decades as well, I always talk about my past and the girls/women's past and no one has been banned for it (probably because these conversations always take place in the PM and not in the general chat)
what do you expect how the support reacts? do you realize how much they have to do? im pretty sure they didnt even take a closer look into this conversation. she could have banned him for less and she would had get the same respond from the support.

dude respected her work and talked about his past nothing else happend and ya'll make a whole pedophile thread about it... where are you all when it comes to all those #Daddy broadcasters?

uhm... disrespeced her work? no? did you even read the original thread?

and as MarieElise said, it has nothing to do with morals, it's about what's in the rules, it doesn't MATTER if you have done something similar and hasn't been affected by it, look at my earlier reply, would you bet your income that this rule is never enforced? if you want to talk about the #Daddy broadcasters, by all means we can go into that too, but the fact is it's accepted by the sites currently and therefor it can be done.. the other thing isn't

You can talk about your past, sure.. do not mention specific ages when they are under 18, so freaking simple.. and for how it goes into the pedo direction, YEARS of experience from models that have experienced it! but thank you as a user of the sites that have maybe broken the rules to inform us these things do not really happen..

 

[woodinho]

uhm... disrespeced her work? no? did you even read the original thread?

and as MarieElise said, it has nothing to do with morals, it's about what's in the rules, it doesn't MATTER if you have done something similar and hasn't been affected by it, look at my earlier reply, would you bet your income that this rule is never enforced? if you want to talk about the #Daddy broadcasters, by all means we can go into that too, but the fact is it's accepted by the sites currently and therefor it can be done.. the other thing isn't

You can talk about your past, sure.. do not mention specific ages when they are under 18, so freaking simple.. and for how it goes into the pedo direction, YEARS of experience from models that have experienced it! but thank you as a user of the sites that have maybe broken the rules to inform us these things do not really happen..

i said he respected her work. 95% of cb visitors doesn't.
and which "rule" did the user break? minors are prohibited and the sexual discussion of minors are strictly prohibited. none of these rules were broken in this case by the banned user.

 

[KingMarti]

discussion of minors are strictly prohibited

Did you mean to answer your own question?
Taking about something that happened as a minor is discussion of minors, not really sure what's so hard to understand about that tbh.

 

[Vixxen81]

As far as CB is concerned no one on the site existed before they turned 18. Period.

 

[woodinho]

Did you mean to answer your own question?
Taking about something that happened as a minor is discussion of minors, not really sure what's so hard to understand about that tbh.

the sexual discussion of minors are strictly prohibited.*

 

[woodinho]

and before the next one trying to manipulate my post...

 

[BlackWizard]

i said he respected her work. 95% of cb visitors doesn't.
and which "rule" did the user break? minors are prohibited and the sexual discussion of minors are strictly prohibited. none of these rules were broken in this case by the banned user.

Tbh, i dont know if admins are looking for our room or automatic algorythm who can catch key words like " 13 years old" -probably the second option, thats why i reacted like this, panicked and banned him. Algorythm are catching key works or key sentences and not looking whole conversation and context. Then i asked support about it and i copied the whole conversation which happened in open chat.And support said that ban was proper in this case. If somebody is curious i explained him the reason of ban, bcause yes i do care for my customers and he was controlling my toy so i explained him in lovense remote app where we can chat too.

 

[KingMarti]

and before the next one trying to manipulate my post...

Your screen shot proves the point we are making
"minors AND sexual discussion of minors are strictly prohibited". The use of the word AND means both of those things are strictly prohibited not pick the one you want to apply.

What counts as sexual is highly debatable due to different people having different things they consider sexual. On an adult site everything is classed as being sexual as that is the nature of the site.

 

[BlackWizard]

This is what Wuggie uploaded here few posts up. Here is written "discussion" of minors. I fully understahnd that many people will say I did bad. I get it because i also wasnt sure but at that moment i was scared that if i wont react then i will be banned, so i reached support and they told me that ban was proper. What shoulded i do?????? risk my account?

 

[woodinho]

No Model will get banned if she is saying for example "My daughter becomes 16 tomorrow" and no user should be banned for saying something innocent like "i saw Ozzy Osborn when i was 14" especially when the music topic was already going.

but hey, let's continue to spread fear rather than stop this misinformation

 

[woodinho]

Your screen shot proves the point we are making
"minors AND sexual discussion of minors are strictly prohibited". The use of the word AND means both of those things are strictly prohibited not pick the one you want to apply.

What counts as sexual is highly debatable due to different people having different things they consider sexual. On an adult site everything is classed as being sexual as that is the nature of the site.

it only proves that you acting like a real "king"