Sevrin said:
Hipster prattle. I've been a part of online communities since around 1992, when most of us were using AOL or, in my case, Compuserve.
In 1992, Neither AOL nor CompuServe had much to do with the Internet. The former had just introduced its SMTP e-mail gateway. The latter, despite being established the same year the Internet's ancestor, ARPANET, went online, wouldn't begin interconnecting until its SMTP gateway was turned up in 1989.
The real Internet experience in the early 90s revolved around VAX, Unix and IBM 370 systems scattered around the world's colleges and universities. I still remember how to use terminal-based e-mail programs like Elm and Pine, and downloading files from a command line FTP client. Then, there was Gopher, an order-by-number information system that soon gave way to the earliest websites.
I remember Web 1.0 and the first browsers.
What was your favorite? Midas, Cello or Viola? I was more of an NCSA Mosaic type.
For better or worse, the livelihood of every MFC model depends on a website running Flash.
Once again, somebody skips reading parts of my posts. To wit:
BigElectricCat said:
One day, I'd love to see MFC abandon Flash completely, but that would require a cubic assload of development work, testing, and coming up with a way to present both Flash and HTML 5 video with similar UI's while models transition from the Flash broadcaster to its replacement. It will also be expensive, possibly reducing or eliminating token discounts to fund the work without reducing the models' share and risking talent moving to other sites. In the end, it would be worth it, but getting there would be painful for MFC, the models and the pervs.
Sevrin said:
Try running MFC without Flash and see how that works out for you. Contrary to what Wikipedia says, you can install and run Flash on Android 4.3 (Nexus 4) and it works fine if all you want to do is freeload, since the small screen makes anything else awkward, imo.
I prefer getting my information about Flash on Android from Google and Adobe, rather than trusting a Wikipedia article. Yes, you can install Flash on any Android version supported by Adobe provided you're willing to go through the process. That's fine for people like you and me, but less savvy users are going to stick to Google Play. I won't even go into trying to watch MFC on a phone, because I'd like the picture to be big enough to recognize the model. Using a tablet would be a much better deal, but it's still impossible to get Flash on IOS, and not easy enough for a lot of users on Android.
Web 2.0 didn't start with the iPad.
True. The term was coined by Darcy di Nucci in a 1999 issue of
Print. However, the term didn't come into common use until 2004, some eight years after the debut of Flash.
Flash has a lot of flaws, but it's not outlived its usefulness.
Outside YouTube and MFC, it has. Even Adobe uses it less on its own site than it once did.
if you think it has anything to do with "Web 1.0", you should keep that thought to yourself.
It's as Web 1.0 as every other old technology that still requires a plugin for browser display. Flash has just been fortunate enough to gain sufficient market share to outlive RealPlayer, Shockwave, QuarkImmedia and QuickTime. Third party plugins can destabilize an otherwise solid web browser in the same way all those PC manufacturer-supplied accessories can make a pig out of Windows.
If you'd like to start a new thread to discuss why Flash still matters, or Web 2.0 semantics, I'll be happy to continue the discussion there. However, we're rapidly derailing the original discussion, which specifically deals with a particular version of Google Chrome.
