Chaturbate Analytics

[cbexplorer]

Hi everyone ,
Based on the work I did with CB Explorer I've started to work on more in-depth analytics for Chaturbate cam performers, with the goal to ultimately make this a useful paid product (got to live somehow). Earlier this week I've reached the first milestone by putting up a landing page of what I currently imagine this product will be once ready along with a waitlist signup. The screenshots on that page are all real and currently being tested by an early beta group and feedback has been positive so far.

It would be helpful for me to get feedback from you all on what you would like to see and what your top features would be. Currently my approach has some limitations as there will be only access to data that's open to everyone, but that might change in the future. I'm also fully aware others have tried before (although I couldn't find a lot of details) and there might be other stumbling blocks along the road.

https://chaturbateanalytics.com/

Thanks in advance for your thoughts!

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[cbhours]

I'd suggest a tag system for the sessions, like lets say a model decides she wants to see if on average her red wig performs better than her blue wig, each day she can add a tag to the states [blue wig] or [red wig] and then setup a way to search for the tags and compare the figures. [red wig] [blue skirt] [stockings] you know that kind of tags

 

[chopper_daddy]

Great idea. Following this thread to see where this goes!

 

[Smoothie]

I'd suggest a tag system for the sessions, like lets say a model decides she wants to see if on average her red wig performs better than her blue wig, each day she can add a tag to the states [blue wig] or [red wig] and then setup a way to search for the tags and compare the figures. [red wig] [blue skirt] [stockings] you know that kind of tags

This is a great idea. It would put the model in control of the variables, especially if they can define the tags themselves. They could track any situation at all.

Another suggestion: Analytics about traffic and tipping based on changes to the broadcast (for example going private, coming back from private, re-opening a password-Protected broadcast to the public, etc).

Might be helpful to track how much room traffic is gained or lost, and how quickly, when a model goes private, returns from private or after initial sign-on. Also interesting to know the percentage of those users that had tokens to spend.

Just things that help quantify the gains vs risks and the traffic patterns. It could help inform all kinds of decisions, ranging from what to charge for private shows to what time of day is safest to take a break, etc.

 

[NotYou]

I have signed up to your waitlist in hopes of knowing further updates and BETA etc
Looks fantastic so far

 

[Dan Epstein]

Ahhm, how exactly are you scraping the data that webcam CEO’s refuse to share for the last decade or so? Do you have access to their Google Analytics? I’m a vanilla PPC, that’s why I’m asking, and I’ve been gasping for someone to offer some actual data based and not just traffic based marketing tools for our community and vertical.

 

[cbexplorer]

Ahhm, how exactly are you scraping the data that webcam CEO’s refuse to share for the last decade or so? Do you have access to their Google Analytics? I’m a vanilla PPC, that’s why I’m asking, and I’ve been gasping for someone to offer some actual data based and not just traffic based marketing tools for our community and vertical.

Hey - good question. All information is from publicly available sources - either through the Chaturbate Affiliate API or the open rooms anyone can join for a model's broadcast. Obviously this approach has restrictions as you don't get all the data (i.e. no private room data, no data that's only available for models etc.), but there's still plenty of information there to be quite useful imo especially if you at it over time to identify optimization opportunities.

 

[Dan Epstein]

Hey - good question. All information is from publicly available sources - either through the Chaturbate Affiliate API or the open rooms anyone can join for a model's broadcast. Obviously this approach has restrictions as you don't get all the data (i.e. no private room data, no data that's only available for models etc.), but there's still plenty of information there to be quite useful imo especially if you at it over time to identify optimization opportunities.

I was referring to big data, the kind that helps with the hardest challenge: Customer acquisition.

 

[cbexplorer]

I was referring to big data, the kind that helps with the hardest challenge: Customer acquisition.

Not sure I follow then - what specific datapoints are you interested in? Can you give an example?

 

[Dan Epstein]

Not sure I follow then - what specific datapoints are you interested in? Can you give an example?

The number of visits of a voyeur in a public chat before becoming a member. The ratio between sign ups to becoming paying members, the lifetime length of a tipper, and the lifetime value, demographics like gender and age, locations, affinities, the list goes on and on. A data product with market intelligence to it

 

[cbexplorer]

The number of visits of a voyeur in a public chat before becoming a member. The ratio between sign ups to becoming paying members, the lifetime length of a tipper, and the lifetime value, demographics like gender and age, locations, affinities, the list goes on and on. A data product with market intelligence to it

I don't have any of this data - maybe the name "Chaturbate Analytics" doesn't match your expectations, especially e.g. when compared to Google Analytics.

 

[Dan Epstein]

I don't have any of this data - maybe the name "Chaturbate Analytics" doesn't match your expectations, especially e.g. when compared to Google Analytics.

So where are the Analytics? You’re damn right, I expect more in 2020, I expect more than just latching on to a freemium site. I expect models and affiliates to have a data based digital marketing tool, that will help them make data driven decisions, and conversions. I’m not saying your idea is wrong, nor the product, but as long as it’s not big data, it’s not truly analytic.

 

[anya__afterglow]

Personally my solution has been starting to build my own Power BI dashboard - that tag tracking idea is good though and I may use it hehe. Dan is so right though, it's hard to have to keep so much of your own data rather than simply being able to download it, particularly as a model.

 

[NotYou]

I am honestly unsure why CB doesn't offer something like this for models.
Models being able to see exactly what days, times, costumes, toys, etc work for them means users buy/spend more tokens. So it's a win-win all around, right?

 

[Dan Epstein]

I am honestly unsure why CB doesn't offer something like this for models.
Models being able to see exactly what days, times, costumes, toys, etc work for them means users buy/spend more tokens. So it's a win-win all around, right?

Not exactly. Camsites are okay with anal as a category, but they go berserkly anal about sharing data publicly

 

[LylacDoll]

@Dan Epstein , I wouldn't come down too hard on them. Is it truly "analytics"? No, not really. But what you're asking for is a different product than what they're advertising (name aside) even though what they're offering and what you described have similar (though not totally identical) userbases. If I recall correctly from cbexplorer's first thread looking for feedback, this is meant to be a convenience tool for models to use to track what happens in their individual room. All of the information they're offering is information I already have access to on the site. But I haven't put in the effort to make a script that will put it all together for me, shove it into a spreadsheet, and auto-generate some charts and graphs. I could do it. But I don't really want to take the time to do it. I could also pay someone else to make the script but then that gets into hiring a freelance coder and negotiations and communicating expectations and email chains and it's just not something I want to put the energy into setting up. So all in all, it's a freemium convenience gadget, if it operates as they've described (I haven't used it, I can't say), which has some value in itself. But I can understand the disappointment, and I will be almost as excited as you if someone ever did come out with an actual analytics tool like you described, as unlikely as that would be.

 

[cbexplorer]

Doesn't look like I can edit the post - (maybe I'm blind though) - but this project moved to a new domain, which hopefully addresses some of the "analytics" related concerns and also recently reading through affiliate terms appendix it's probably wise not to pick a domain with "Chaturbate" in the name (haven't been able to update the text yet though). The more you know

Chaturbate Cam Insights

Detailed cam stats, analytics and insights for Chaturbate models - let us provide the data that help you optimize your time and earnings while you focus on your show.

cbcaminsights.com

Recently I've been working on adding more features in the beta, newest additions are tracking purchases and some basic Chaturbate tag traffic analysis. More to come, def also looking into enabling performers to tag cam session as suggested by cbours eventually!

 

[Smoothie]

Doesn't look like I can edit the post - (maybe I'm blind though) - but this project moved to a new domain, which hopefully addresses some of the "analytics" related concerns and also recently reading through affiliate terms appendix it's probably wise not to pick a domain with "Chaturbate" in the name (haven't been able to update the text yet though). The more you know

Chaturbate Cam Insights

Detailed cam stats, analytics and insights for Chaturbate models - let us provide the data that help you optimize your time and earnings while you focus on your show.

cbcaminsights.com

Recently I've been working on adding more features in the beta, newest additions are tracking purchases and some basic Chaturbate tag traffic analysis. More to come, def also looking into enabling performers to tag cam session as suggested by cbours eventually!



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This is pretty fascinating to me. Question about the bar graph: Is the “tokens” (yellow bar) vs “Purchases” (green) intended to show the number of total tokens held by members in a models room at the stated time, vs. the number of tokens actually spent? Or am I misinterpreting that?

If that’s what it represents, I could see it being very useful to a model in seeing their success rate at getting token-holders to tip, in relation to time of day or what they were doing that might have inspired the tipping (dancing, etc). And the latter is very important because it will vary from model to model. Models will have different strengths and talents. It might help illustrate to a model when something they’re doing is working, even if it’s subtle and not an obvious play for tips.

Very interesting!

 

[cbexplorer]

This is pretty fascinating to me. Question about the bar graph: Is the “tokens” (yellow bar) vs “Purchases” (green) intended to show the number of total tokens held by members in a models room at the stated time, vs. the number of tokens actually spent? Or am I misinterpreting that?

Ah that's not it actually - it's the number of tokens spent / purchases made in some time window (~5 minutes). From what I know number of tokens held by an individual is not knowable.

 

[Smoothie]

Ah that's not it actually - it's the number of tokens spent / purchases made in some time window (~5 minutes). From what I know number of tokens held by an individual is not knowable.

Ah, I see... so tokens spent vs purchases differentiates money earned from tipping vs members buying specific products like videos, photo sets, WhatsApp, etc?

 

[JennyFae]

i signed up! Any kind of earnings tracking is better than none. thank you for your hard work, we are excited!

 

[dickwow99]

There was no signup button. I joined the waiting list.

 

[diasysmith101]

Joined the waiting list!

 

[Dan Epstein]

How about having longer time windows, with a comparison that can drive actionable insights? For example during the weekend having the same time window on Saturday and respectively on Sunday? Just thinking e-commerce here.

 

[DoD404]

Doesn't look like I can edit the post - (maybe I'm blind though)

no no. you can't after few minutes. and you can't delete it at all -_-

 

[cbexplorer]

Spent the last few weeks making a "real" backend for this with a solid login / security and finally getting back to feature work again - first up based on a suggestion was adding tip amount frequencies to allow analyzing how well a performer's tip menu is working / what items of the tip menu are popular. Next up is probably fixing some performance problems

As a reminder the new URL is https://cbcaminsights.com and the waitlist is open

 

[cbexplorer]

Nearing the finish line for a slow initial release for a few users.

As a reminder the new URL is https://cbcaminsights.com and the waitlist is open

Trends, trends trends - in the most recent addition to the beta we double-down on trends.

4 Months!​

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The time period for trends has been extended to a whopping 4 months for all CB Cam Insights users, but the best news is that this will also include the Free tier! That's right, just by creating a free account you get four months of data for your Chaturbate account. With a 1/3 of a year trend line some long-term trends become much more visible compared to just looking at 1 or 2 months. In the future, expect more time range increases especially for full subscribers. Follower Ranks and Follower Growth Ranks​

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After what feels like ages, finally two more trend charts see the light of day! Similar to the daily rankings of cam shows by viewers, these new ranks rank performers by their total number of followers as well as how quickly they've been able to add followers over a time period - the last 7 days for the Follower Growth rank. This enables you to better evaluate how you are doing compared to other Chaturbate performers as you grow your account. ​

 

[Dan Epstein]

Dude, can you explain the graph in a simplified manner? What does each axis represent?

 

[DoD404]

Dude, can you explain the graph in a simplified manner? What does each axis represent?

The left one is absolute (blue curve), the Right one is relative (green curve)

 

[Dan Epstein]

The left one is absolute (blue curve), the Right one is relative (green curve)

Again, as a junior Data Analyst, I like it when tables or graphs are explained, so I'd appreciate it if we start with the basics. What does the vertical axis stand for, and what does the horizontal one stand for please?