Change to Wire trqansfer payouts!

[TashaDutch]

Re: Change to Wire thrqansfer payouts!

I think MFC needs to do some "remodeling" of their site.

I like what was said above, and I do think MFC should make models earn their keep on this site.
I'm not gonna be the one who says some models shouldn't cam, definitely not my place.
However the girls who are bringing in 6grand+ every 2 weeks should have higher priority
over girls who are only making 1500 or less. Especially if this is done for a living.

They seriously need to downsize in models, theres probably a good couple hundred models
on this site who don't make anything, yet their using up space, servers, ect ect.

Which in turn is frustrating for other girls who are in hour long privates and the site suddently
crashes. Quality over Quantity is always best.

With that said, I'm in Canada and need not to worry about the temp. change

i dont think all the girls you are mentioning are just on cam to be on cam and kinda fool around
i also think that 1500 dollars is a shit load of money.. but who am i.. lol
girls online are just different from eachother... and some just have "it"
to be honest your post came off a bit offensive.. i study and need every dollar i can get (for groceries and such).. i dont know why girls who allready make a shitload of money should have priority.. most of us low rated girls work hard as well..
i even study beside it
but anyway.. i'm sure it came of to me totally different then it was written so sorry.. but had to comment...
i agree that some girls should just be checked and deleted.. even i have no idea why they are even online...
there are plenty sites that have the whole free chatroom/video option
just wanted to share my thoughs also..

Sorry that you took that offensivlely, I'm not to sure how you did but if you did I apologize.
Seems to me that egg shell walking and sugar coating is needed in this forum so that I can do
and not be so blunt
And I don't think that ones money is less important than anothers so lets just get that out of the way.

i dont ask for sugar coating but i assume you never saw me online.. and girls like me...
i admit there are girls that dont do shit.. just beeing online seems to be enough for them..
hell there are even thousands of unused accounts...
buuut there are tons of girls that are working hard... while they are not in hour long prvts
there are guys for everyone on mfc..
the way you wrote that down sounded like you basicly meant ever girl that makes less then 1500 dollars...
and yeah thats not cool to read if you know you work hard to make it happen.. but it just doesnt happen for some reason..
thats all i meant

 

[MonroeLee]

Re: Change to Wire thrqansfer payouts!

i dont think all the girls you are mentioning are just on cam to be on cam and kinda fool around
i also think that 1500 dollars is a shit load of money.. but who am i.. lol
girls online are just different from eachother... and some just have "it"
to be honest your post came off a bit offensive.. i study and need every dollar i can get (for groceries and such).. i dont know why girls who allready make a shitload of money should have priority.. most of us low rated girls work hard as well..
i even study beside it
but anyway.. i'm sure it came of to me totally different then it was written so sorry.. but had to comment...
i agree that some girls should just be checked and deleted.. even i have no idea why they are even online...
there are plenty sites that have the whole free chatroom/video option
just wanted to share my thoughs also..[/quote]


Sorry that you took that offensivlely, I'm not to sure how you did but if you did I apologize.
Seems to me that egg shell walking and sugar coating is needed in this forum so that I can do
and not be so blunt
And I don't think that ones money is less important than anothers so lets just get that out of the way.
[/quote]

i dont ask for sugar coating but i assume you never saw me online.. and girls like me...
i admit there are girls that dont do shit.. just beeing online seems to be enough for them..
hell there are even thousands of unused accounts...
buuut there are tons of girls that are working hard... while they are not in hour long prvts
there are guys for everyone on mfc..
the way you wrote that down sounded like you basicly meant ever girl that makes less then 1500 dollars...
and yeah thats not cool to read if you know you work hard to make it happen.. but it just doesnt happen for some reason..
thats all i meant[/quote]



Ohh no, not how I meant it at all Tasha, and I'm sorry that's how you took it.
I know moneys money and each and every one of us works damn hard for it, doesn't
matter who the hell we are.

 

[MonroeLee]

Re: Change to Wire thrqansfer payouts!


Ohh no, not how I meant it at all Tasha, and I'm sorry that's how you took it.
I know moneys money and each and every one of us works damn hard for it, doesn't
matter who the hell we are.

[/quote]

 

[TashaDutch]

Re: Change to Wire thrqansfer payouts!

i dont think all the girls you are mentioning are just on cam to be on cam and kinda fool around
i also think that 1500 dollars is a shit load of money.. but who am i.. lol
girls online are just different from eachother... and some just have "it"
to be honest your post came off a bit offensive.. i study and need every dollar i can get (for groceries and such).. i dont know why girls who allready make a shitload of money should have priority.. most of us low rated girls work hard as well..
i even study beside it
but anyway.. i'm sure it came of to me totally different then it was written so sorry.. but had to comment...
i agree that some girls should just be checked and deleted.. even i have no idea why they are even online...
there are plenty sites that have the whole free chatroom/video option
just wanted to share my thoughs also..

Sorry that you took that offensivlely, I'm not to sure how you did but if you did I apologize.
Seems to me that egg shell walking and sugar coating is needed in this forum so that I can do
and not be so blunt
And I don't think that ones money is less important than anothers so lets just get that out of the way.
[/quote]

i dont ask for sugar coating but i assume you never saw me online.. and girls like me...
i admit there are girls that dont do shit.. just beeing online seems to be enough for them..
hell there are even thousands of unused accounts...
buuut there are tons of girls that are working hard... while they are not in hour long prvts
there are guys for everyone on mfc..
the way you wrote that down sounded like you basicly meant ever girl that makes less then 1500 dollars...
and yeah thats not cool to read if you know you work hard to make it happen.. but it just doesnt happen for some reason..
thats all i meant[/quote]



Ohh no, not how I meant it at all Tasha, and I'm sorry that's how you took it.
I know moneys money and each and every one of us works damn hard for it, doesn't
matter who the hell we are.

[/quote]

lool thank you.. i didnt wanna come of as some offended little bitch either.. glad we got the weird thing outta the way..

 

[XxXIndiXxX]

no more payments for tasha then... is this serious? wtf..
i didnt even earn 1000 the whole damn time i worked there

is payoneer btw safe? didnt change to it because i'm always afraid it will end up like Epassporte costumers..

I've been using Payoneer and i like it a lot more than epassporte. BUT after what happened to epassporte you never know so I always withdraw as much as I can straight away. They do seem to be a lot more professional than epassporte, I'm pretty happy with them.

And yes I agree that it's bullshit that if someone earns more money they should have higher priority. Absolute bullshit.

 

[MzzMetal]

no more payments for tasha then... is this serious? wtf..
i didnt even earn 1000 the whole damn time i worked there

is payoneer btw safe? didnt change to it because i'm always afraid it will end up like Epassporte costumers..

I've been using Payoneer and i like it a lot more than epassporte. BUT after what happened to epassporte you never know so I always withdraw as much as I can straight away. They do seem to be a lot more professional than epassporte, I'm pretty happy with them.

And yes I agree that it's bullshit that if someone earns more money they should have higher priority. Absolute bullshit.

was wondering if you could tell me typically how long it takes to receive payment via payoneer i know mfc says 1 day but i was wondering if someone who has actually used it could tell me and if it is within 1 day is it a full 24 hours or less i was thinking of switching thanx so much if you can answer my question

 

[XxXIndiXxX]

You can choose how quickly you get it. Pay a $2 fee and you will have it in about 2 days. Pay a $5 fee (which I do) and I get the the money 2 or 3 hours after the end of the pay period, it's really quick.

 

[AlexLady]

BUMP!

They lowered the minimum to 500.

Updated Minimum for International Wire Transfers
**THE FOLLOWING ONLY EFFECTS FOREIGN MODELS AND STUDIOS***

On December 4 2010 we posted that the international bank wire transfer minimum would be temporarily increased to $1000, but we were able to make some positive changes and therefore only had to increase the minimum to $500. We will continue to try to lower the minimum for international bank wire transfers, but also remember that there are several alternative options to be paid amounts as low as $10.

 

[AngelicTease]

I'm soooo glad they changed it! At least 10,000 over a pay period is less than 1000 a day, it was getting a bit stressfull trying to make 20,000, lol. Yipeeeeee. Yayyyy. WOO HOOOO! :dance:
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[AngelicTease]

Just seen(thanks to LilyPink for tweeting it) that they've changed it to $1000 AGAIN!

Mar 15th, '11 Updated Minimum for International Wire Transfers
**THE FOLLOWING ONLY AFFECTS FOREIGN MODELS AND STUDIOS BEING PAID BY INTERNATIONAL WIRE TRANSFER**

Effective immediately, the minimum payout for international wire transfers will be temporarily increased to $1,000.00 instead of the current $500.00.

Please keep in mind the following:

1) We offer a variety of payment options through e-Wallets such as Payoneer, AlertPay, Paxum, i-Payout, CashX, and OKPay where the minimums are as low as $10 or $20. Many of these e-Wallet services will wire you the money to your bank similarly to how we would do it.

2) Remember that if you earn below a minimum payout, the money is carried over to the future pay period. The money is not lost and you will always get paid.

3) This increase in the minimum payout for international wire transfers is temporary. We will once again lower the minimum payout as soon as possible.

The reason for this temporary change is that due to the extreme growth of the number of models on our website, we are having difficulty processing the huge number of very small wire transfers in an efficient manner. We are working very hard to solve this problem.

We apologize for this inconvenience and for the very short notice.

Thank you for your understanding. Please do not e-mail us about this issue as all relevant details will be posted here.

**THIS MESSAGE ONLY EFFECTS FOREIGN MODELS AND STUDIOS BEING PAID BY INTERNATIONAL WIRE TRANSFER**

I really can't believe they've changed it a day before we're meant to get paid. Could have at least gave more notice. Does MFC not give a crap about the models at all?

 

[SatanJonez]

Just seen(thanks to LilyPink for tweeting it) that they've changed it to $1000 AGAIN!

Mar 15th, '11 Updated Minimum for International Wire Transfers
**THE FOLLOWING ONLY AFFECTS FOREIGN MODELS AND STUDIOS BEING PAID BY INTERNATIONAL WIRE TRANSFER**

Effective immediately, the minimum payout for international wire transfers will be temporarily increased to $1,000.00 instead of the current $500.00.

Please keep in mind the following:

1) We offer a variety of payment options through e-Wallets such as Payoneer, AlertPay, Paxum, i-Payout, CashX, and OKPay where the minimums are as low as $10 or $20. Many of these e-Wallet services will wire you the money to your bank similarly to how we would do it.

2) Remember that if you earn below a minimum payout, the money is carried over to the future pay period. The money is not lost and you will always get paid.

3) This increase in the minimum payout for international wire transfers is temporary. We will once again lower the minimum payout as soon as possible.

The reason for this temporary change is that due to the extreme growth of the number of models on our website, we are having difficulty processing the huge number of very small wire transfers in an efficient manner. We are working very hard to solve this problem.

We apologize for this inconvenience and for the very short notice.

Thank you for your understanding. Please do not e-mail us about this issue as all relevant details will be posted here.

**THIS MESSAGE ONLY EFFECTS FOREIGN MODELS AND STUDIOS BEING PAID BY INTERNATIONAL WIRE TRANSFER**

I really can't believe they've changed it a day before we're meant to get paid. Could have at least gave more notice. Does MFC not give a crap about the models at all?

I thought this would be obvious, but no. They don't give a fuck about anyone accessing the site really. :lol:

 

[AngelicTease]

I know people say bad stuff about them all the time, but I didn't think they'd ever do something like that. At least last time they did it, I'm sure they gave quite a bit of notice.
And I'm sure they could have done something else, instead of doubling the amount, like if they're reason is coz it's taking too long, then say lower transfers will take a few more days to be transfered. At least then the people depending on their MFC money will only have to wait an extra few days, instead of another two weeks! Like I don't know, do big transfers on the 16th like planned, then the little ones on another day.
Maybe they like pissing people off/fucking things up for people financially.

I know people will probably say well models shouldn't depend on money and should have savings, but for some people that's hard. I'm sure this will affect lots of models badly and it sucks.

 

[LilyPink]

Someone suggested that MFC might be having money problems and have to hold some back. It's worrying but there are always more sites.

I couldn't believe it was so close to the end of the pay period. I cursed so bad when I saw it.

 

[Mikeythegeek]

Someone suggested that MFC might be having money problems and have to hold some back. It's worrying but there are always more sites.

I couldn't believe it was so close to the end of the pay period. I cursed so bad when I saw it.

To do it this close to the end of the period (which ended 6 minutes ago as I type this) screams of something going on.

If you can avoid wire transfers all together, do so.

And if MFC is having money problems, there's one obvious way of fixing that.

 

[Kittycatpurr]

Someone suggested that MFC might be having money problems and have to hold some back. It's worrying but there are always more sites.

I couldn't believe it was so close to the end of the pay period. I cursed so bad when I saw it.

That was exactly what I thought when i saw the last minute change. I think they're clinging on to their capitol. But then again, I'm just guessing. It seems v fishy to me that they didn't give more notice, it's obvious that a last minute change would mean less chance for a lot of girls to be able to make the pay period, therefore leaving more money in the MFC coffers for longer.

Would be interested to see which companies Leo has his money invested in. I wonder if any of them are in Japan...haven't had a look at the markets recently but I can imagine that a lot of the big blue chip japanese companies that are floated have seen a HUGE nosedive in their share price...which would have a knock-on effect on their investors obviously.

 

[nzhere]

"The reason for this temporary change is that due to the extreme growth of the number of models on our website, we are having difficulty processing the huge number of very small wire transfers in an efficient manner. We are working very hard to solve this problem."


Why don't they move the payout day for the Asian models to the 8th and 22nd of the month and that might fix it

 

[Mirra]

The reason for this temporary change is that due to the extreme growth of the number of models on our website, we are having difficulty processing the huge number of very small wire transfers in an efficient manner. We are working very hard to solve this problem.

Something about this seems rather odd to me. Let me see if I can pin-point what it is...

...we are having difficulty processing the huge number of very small wire transfers in an efficient manner.

Still don't see it?

huge number of very small wire transfers

The minimum was still $500 right? They never removed that stipulation? Or did they remove it for a bit then re-institute it at $1000? Call me crazy but $500 is a decent amount of money where I sit. If this $1000 minimum was happening to MY paycheck I would only get paid once a month. That would suck royally if I was expecting that money. This late notice shit is not even a remotely acceptable way to handle it. Delay payment for people under 1k for a day or two? Sure! Implement this policy for a pay period that is a month away? Definitely! Delaying people's money up to two weeks? Fucking bullshit! I sure hope any of you models who were affected have some friends, family, or savings to get you through this because I know I'd have a hard time if I was in that situation.

 

[AngelicTease]

It's been that quiet recently I wouldn't be suprised if some models can't even reach the 20,000 tokens to get paid on the 1st.
I think I'm going to need some kind of miracle, or to be on cam 12 hours a day, to reach it, and I need that money for my rent so then I'd be right buggered if I can't make it.
And what if MFC decide to up the limit AGAIN? Eeeek. On the last day of the month they might decide the minimum should be 50,000 tokens, pfft.

And if they are doing it coz of money problems, can't they just fine all the rule breakers? Then they wont have to pay out as much, coz of the fines. So then at least their punishing the people that have done something wrong, and not us innocent low earners. And if they fined them like 10,000 tokens, it might actually make them follow the rules or something. :shock:

 

[AlexLady]

Yep, the limit was changed back to 500 not too long ago. Before when they warned people and first set it to 1k, it was set that way on the fourth.

It's stupid, girls who make 500 have made MFC at least 400$. It's not that expensive even for the three thousand models who only make 100$ (based on miss MFC.)


I'm thinking it's either them trying to deal with sudden credit card fraud, them being stuck behind on taxes or maybe another sudden expense, or of course, MFC just being greedy.

 

[LilyPink]

Just wondered... if they are having money problems, surely they'd delay other methods of payment too.

Perhaps it is as someone mentioned and that they want people to use these other online payment companies.

 

[Mikeythegeek]

And if they are doing it coz of money problems, can't they just fine all the rule breakers? Then they wont have to pay out as much, coz of the fines. So then at least their punishing the people that have done something wrong, and not us innocent low earners. And if they fined them like 10,000 tokens, it might actually make them follow the rules or something. :shock:

If this is happening due to lack of income, I think this is a big part of why income is down. As I've said in a previous thread, the more models who break the rules without fear of punishment; the less visitors to the site are needing to pay for access. If MFC starts punishing models, income will go up because guests will become basics and basics will become premiums all in the name of seeing HollyHanna fuck herself with a chainsaw.

 

[nzhere]

Models that get paid via bankwire have had since December to order the "FREE" payoneer card as an alternative payment.

There are a bunch of others as well.

http://wiki.myfreecams.com/wiki/Payment ... #e-Wallets

 

[AngelicTease]

I don't trust things like that, not after what happened to epassporte. At least the wire method it's safe and trusted. I'd rather have my money late and know I'll get it one day eventually, than take the risk of joining another payment thing that might go wrong like epassporte did and not be able to get money.

 

[AmyLemon]

The reason for this temporary change is that due to the extreme growth of the number of models on our website, we are having difficulty processing the huge number of very small wire transfers in an efficient manner. We are working very hard to solve this problem.

Something about this seems rather odd to me. Let me see if I can pin-point what it is...

...we are having difficulty processing the huge number of very small wire transfers in an efficient manner.

Still don't see it?

huge number of very small wire transfers

I'm with Mirra on the implied "red flags" in that statement. I wonder whether it's an expression of their weighing the cost of paying girls vs. what the girls are bringing in vs. the overhead of the site itself. MFC isn't "working diligently" to figure out how to do many small wire transfers, that job would fall to an actual payment processor (bank), the only thing MFC might be working on is trying to negotiate cheaper per-transaction wire transfers with said bank.

A bank would charge less on a larger transaction than on a smaller transaction, but we're talking about fractions of a cent when you compare $500 to $1000 dollars. So either Leo is a total jew (pardon me) or there's something bigger afoot. For instance: they don't have enough in the coffers to cover the payables.

Or the "too many wire transfers" is a distraction technique for a bigger business plan. Upping the payout seems like a logical way to "weed out all the undesirables" It's basically MFC saying, "it costs too much overhead for us (servers/tech/CC processing) for you to make us less than $1000 a month".

I'm a numbers girl so I would be sooo hot and horny to see the overhead breakdown for MFC divided by each model. Ie: It costs MFC $10 a month to keep Model123 live and earning and she makes $10,000 a month, but it also costs $10 a month to keep ModelXYZ live and earning and she only brings in $700 a month. It takes 20 ModelXYZ's to bring in what Model123 does. It might be a "culling of the herd".

It would have NOTHING to do with the price of wire transfers (not only would that number be minimal when compared to other overhead expenditures, but also a tax write off), it would have everything to do with the overall cost of operations and keeping the coffers from redlining twice a month. When I try to wrap my head around how much money the site generates and how much it costs to keep live I can't come up with a scenario wherein they'd be scraping by by the skin of their teeth, but you never know how some people run their finances.

 

[nzhere]

I thought those using bankwire transfer pay the additional bankwire fee themselves deducted from their tokens? $15??

 

[Kittycatpurr]

They do pay out of their tokens, so it doesn't cost MFC anything to pay the banks, unless the bank charges change regularly due to being basedf on a percentage and they are sucking up the difference.

The only charges MFC incurs on paying wire transfers is the admin/overheads/whatever you want to call them on actually doing the paperwork etc.

Wichever way you look at it,it does strike me that there is a serious issue with MFCs business model. They have pushed hard for expansion over the past 6-12 months and they don't seem to have the infrastructure in place to cope with the increased numbers on any side. Who does their business strategy and planning? I think they need help...

 

[Divine]

Well, i just started on MFC, been a week. The whole 1000$ thing sucked but it gave me a goal, something to strive for!
So i've set a minimum earnings of 2,000 tokens a day and i usually make more.
I only work Monday - Friday and crapy hours because I can only work when my parents are at work (8am - 6pm) CET which is about 2am - noon EST.
What im trying to say is, if i can do it you guys can! Lets get the dough rollin' in!!

 

[Twinkle03]

There should be an MFC changelog on these forums, to keep track of MFC history, and future, and what we girls have done to improve.

Shit, there should be a long "MFC SHOULD CHANGE/ ADD THIS, AND WHY" thread, in which has legitimate reasons, and proven fact behind those reasons of a change in MFC that should/ needs to fucking happen.

Shit, these forums should be a fucking eye opener to MFC, and they should look here when they want to make improvements to their site, to give their girls/ customers a much better experience overall.

 

[AmberCutie]

There should be an MFC changelog on these forums, to keep track of MFC history, and future, and what we girls have done to improve.

Shit, there should be a long "MFC SHOULD CHANGE/ ADD THIS, AND WHY" thread, in which has legitimate reasons, and proven fact behind those reasons of a change in MFC that should/ needs to fucking happen.

Shit, these forums should be a fucking eye opener to MFC, and they should look here when they want to make improvements to their site, to give their girls/ customers a much better experience overall.

If Leo was smart he'd lurk these forums pretty hard on a weekly basis, at least. Who's to say he doesn't though...