Can Tipping / Transferring Tokens be a Shell Game on CB?

[Dubious]

I believe Tokens are not transferrable between CB users without the express consent of CB. For example, if I have multiple CB Memberships at the same time, I can’t transfer Tokens from one of my Memberships to another one of my Memberships . . without the express consent of CB, which makes sense: If one COULD transfer Tokens, one could easily & quickly accrue A TON of tokens in one Membership at a VERY small cost (assuming one cancels new Memberships as soon as they are created, simply in order to get the 200 free Tokens, which could then be trasferred).

However, IF a Member DOES have consent from CB to transfer tokens to > < from > < to > from different Memberships . . couldn’t, for example, the users fakemember, ghostaccount, and daddywarbucks in a Model's Room APPEAR to be Tipping very generously in order to generate buzz & excitement in the Model’s room and motivate other Members to Tip, only for the Model to return most / all of those Tips to fakemember, ghostaccount, and daddywarbucks after the show . . in a continuous loop? Yes, CB allegedly takes 50% of the Tokens, I believe . . unless CB is PART of the Shell Game, right?

 

[SCRIPTA]

This happens all-the-time... maybe not as flagrantly as years past, but it still happens.

 

[Vixxen81]

LMFAO

There is no rule whatsoever that you cannot transfer tokens between accounts. Models tip their mods to tip tokens back to them all the time and models pay to have bios created and use tokens to pay the person designing it. Where it becomes a gray area is cashing tokens out for actual money and the affiliate programs.

 

[cbhours]

simply in order to get the 200 free Tokens, which could then be trasferred

That's not free it's 20 bucks for the supporter plan and they give you 200 tokens "free" after taking your 20 bucks.

 

[bamdicted]

Yes, CB allegedly takes 50% of the Tokens, I believe . . unless CB is PART of the Shell Game, right?

CB does not take 50% of the tokens from models, the user pays between 8 and 10 cents per token, depending on the package, the model/studio receives 5 cents per token. CBs cut is the difference.

I believe the misconception that CB takes 50% of the tokens has formed because, as far as I know, for models working for a studio it is very common that the studio and model split the tokens models earn 50/50.

 

[pbonACF]

However, IF a Member DOES have consent from CB to transfer tokens to > < from > < to > from different Memberships . . couldn’t, for example, the users fakemember, ghostaccount, and daddywarbucks in a Model's Room APPEAR to be Tipping very generously in order to generate buzz & excitement in the Model’s room and motivate other Members to Tip, only for the Model to return most / all of those Tips to fakemember, ghostaccount, and daddywarbucks after the show . . in a continuous loop? Yes, CB allegedly takes 50% of the Tokens, I believe . . unless CB is PART of the Shell Game, right?

CB makes millions selling 1000 tokens for $80 and redeeming them for $50. No trickery required.

OP, the tone of your post is reminiscent of a troll, stirring the pot for your own entertainment. Beware, people here toast trolls for breakfast

 

[Dubious]

CB makes millions selling 1000 tokens for $80 and redeeming them for $50. No trickery required.

OP, the tone of your post is reminiscent of a troll, stirring the pot for your own entertainment. Beware, people here toast trolls for breakfast

Not a troll . . simply not good at abstract math (or simple math, it seems )

 

[Dubious]

Not a troll . . simply not good at abstract math (or simple math, it seems )

Ack! Was unaware there is a 15min time-out for editing .

I'm not a troll (I don't think I'm a Troll. Oh, I really HOPE I'm not a troll. OMG . . is my query what a Troll would throw out there just to waste people's time?!). I'm new to the world of CB (and AmberCutie). But thanks for the shot across the bow (I know: that's a bomb, not a cannonball. There is no cannonball emoji on my laptop).

Getting back to my query: what is to prevent CB Members from tipping a CB Model wildly in order to create buzz / hype and motivate & inspire others to therefore Tip . . and then the Model simply transferring those Tokens back to the . . "plants" (not as in "foliage," but as in "unknown member of a scheme") . . so the Plants can Tip wildly again the next show . . and the next . . ad infinitum?

This would work especially well in a Raffle situation (where the continuously-tipping Plants would help drive a sense of urgency and momentum, and all-but-be-guaranteed to win the prize) . . or with Ticket Shows, where the Plants would help create a FOMO environment.

None of this would hurt CB's bottom line, in fact it would help CB make more $$ because of the hyped real tippers who would likely not be tipping as wildly without inspiration and a sense of urgency. Wouldn't hurt the model, for the same reason. Wouldn't hurt the Plant Tippers, who never loose any Tokens in simply moving them around between CB Accounts, have raffle winning percentages skewed in their direction, and have essentially free entry to Ticket Shows, etc.

 

[Dubious]

LMFAO

There is no rule whatsoever that you cannot transfer tokens between accounts. Models tip their mods to tip tokens back to them all the time and models pay to have bios created and use tokens to pay the person designing it. Where it becomes a gray area is cashing tokens out for actual money and the affiliate programs.

I see "bamdicted" liked this post with a thumbs up. How did they do that? I don't see a "Like" button anywhere

 

[Dubious]

That's not free it's 20 bucks for the supporter plan and they give you 200 tokens "free" after taking your 20 bucks.

Ok . . good point. I've never been good at abstract math . . or simple math.

 

[Dubious]

CB does not take 50% of the tokens from models, the user pays between 8 and 10 cents per token, depending on the package, the model/studio receives 5 cents per token. CBs cut is the difference.

I believe the misconception that CB takes 50% of the tokens has formed because, as far as I know, for models working for a studio it is very common that the studio and model split the tokens models earn 50/50.

Well-explained; thank you. I see your point . . and stand corrected.

 

[rockin_rod]

I believe Tokens are not transferrable between CB users without the express consent of CB. For example, if I have multiple CB Memberships at the same time, I can’t transfer Tokens from one of my Memberships to another one of my Memberships . . without the express consent of CB, which makes sense: If one COULD transfer Tokens, one could easily & quickly accrue A TON of tokens in one Membership at a VERY small cost (assuming one cancels new Memberships as soon as they are created, simply in order to get the 200 free Tokens, which could then be trasferred).

However, IF a Member DOES have consent from CB to transfer tokens to > < from > < to > from different Memberships . . couldn’t, for example, the users fakemember, ghostaccount, and daddywarbucks in a Model's Room APPEAR to be Tipping very generously in order to generate buzz & excitement in the Model’s room and motivate other Members to Tip, only for the Model to return most / all of those Tips to fakemember, ghostaccount, and daddywarbucks after the show . . in a continuous loop? Yes, CB allegedly takes 50% of the Tokens, I believe . . unless CB is PART of the Shell Game, right?

This is a Dubious question in more than one way.

 

[MaLiNka__]

On all other sites this program was Regina even before it appeared.
The accounts were divided into user and model. Where the model can only receive payment for tokens, nothing more.
Chaturbate left it as is and it gives a lot of opportunities for speculation, previously token theft/account hacking (I hope this is not relevant now due to additional protection).
After tightening the rules, the scheme is to send tokens to the moderator, and he back, Will be regarded as popularity boosting. Even if you have two accounts and you sent money to one of them, then you return it back and give it a thumbs up , you will be charged with a serious violation. You will receive a warning and will be blocked (temporarily or permanently).
Recently there was a person here with a similar story, the account was blocked for more than a month, although he received a warning, but never got unblocked. He discovered this by accident, he didn't think that one thumb up would be considered a violation. "Automated or semi-automated..." I don't remember the exact name, but something like false opinion or traffic generation.

 

[darthro]

You pay $20 for those 200 tokens.

CB takes their 50% ($10) right then and there as soon as you pay for them.

They do not care what you do with those 200 tokens after that

 

[Vixxen81]

I see "bamdicted" liked this post with a thumbs up. How did they do that? I don't see a "Like" button anywhere

There a link that says like just below each comment. Hover over it or hold your finger on it to bring up a list of choices.

 

[MaLiNka__]

You pay $20 for those 200 tokens.

CB takes their 50% ($10) right then and there as soon as you pay for them.

They do not care what you do with those 200 tokens after that

I thought so too until I heard a few situations.
Some people here might think that this thumbs up blocking situation is a joke. I would like to think so too.
And yes, usually it's not 50%, but a little less, if you take into account stocks and such. Also server fees, employee salaries and other expenses, so it will never be 50% of your purchase. (if we talk about profit)

 

[NotYou]

You pay $20 for those 200 tokens.

CB takes their 50% ($10) right then and there as soon as you pay for them.

They do not care what you do with those 200 tokens after that

This is what a lot of people don't seem to understand for some reason.

OP: You can transfer between accounts if you want, there is no problem with this as long as it's nothing shady. I have a few accounts I do it on with no problems.
You just need to make sure to verify your account (ID) so you can receive tokens. That's the only "permission" you need - to verify as a broadcaster to receive tokens, even if you never intend or want to broadcast


A quick breakdown for those who are confused, I hope I got this correct
Only the first 3 small packages are where CB take the 50% or more from the user, but obviously this is probably what the majority of users purchase so it could be a reason why it is also mistaken for them always taking 50%.
(p/t = per token)

100 tokens - $11 - 54.55% ($0.11 p/t)
200 tokens - $21 - 52.38% ($0.105 p/t)
400 tokens - $40 - 50.00% ($0.10 p/t)
550 tokens - $50 - 45.00% ($0.0909 p/t)
750 tokens - $63 - 40.48% ($0.084 p/t)
1000 tokens - $80 - 37.50% ($0.08 p/t)


Everything above that 1000 package is the same price and saving

 

[AmberCutie]

A quick breakdown for those who are confused, I hope I got this correct
Only the first 3 small packages are where CB take the 50% or more from the user, but obviously this is probably what the majority of users purchase so it could be a reason why it is also mistaken for them always taking 50%.
(p/t = per token)

100 tokens - $11 - 54.55% ($0.11 p/t)
200 tokens - $21 - 52.38% ($0.105 p/t)
400 tokens - $40 - 50.00% ($0.10 p/t)
550 tokens - $50 - 45.00% ($0.0909 p/t)
750 tokens - $63 - 40.48% ($0.084 p/t)
1000 tokens - $80 - 37.50% ($0.08 p/t)

And it's important to constantly remind people that the model gets $0.05 p/t no matter what the user pays for them. (Unless a studio model, because they have their own payout amounts, but that's a studio issue, not a CB issue.)

 

[cbhours]

but obviously this is probably what the majority of users purchase so it could be a reason why it is also mistaken for them always taking 50%.

Based on stats ive gathered 29% of packages sold are purchased 10.99 or cheaper. On average chaturbate sells tokens at 0.08452.

 

[Dubious]

This is what a lot of people don't seem to understand for some reason.

OP: You can transfer between accounts if you want, there is no problem with this as long as it's nothing shady. I have a few accounts I do it on with no problems.
You just need to make sure to verify your account (ID) so you can receive tokens. That's the only "permission" you need - to verify as a broadcaster to receive tokens, even if you never intend or want to broadcast


A quick breakdown for those who are confused, I hope I got this correct
Only the first 3 small packages are where CB take the 50% or more from the user, but obviously this is probably what the majority of users purchase so it could be a reason why it is also mistaken for them always taking 50%.
(p/t = per token)

100 tokens - $11 - 54.55% ($0.11 p/t)
200 tokens - $21 - 52.38% ($0.105 p/t)
400 tokens - $40 - 50.00% ($0.10 p/t)
550 tokens - $50 - 45.00% ($0.0909 p/t)
750 tokens - $63 - 40.48% ($0.084 p/t)
1000 tokens - $80 - 37.50% ($0.08 p/t)


Everything above that 1000 package is the same price and saving

Excellent response; thank you

 

[Dubious]

And it's important to constantly remind people that the model gets $0.05 p/t no matter what the user pays for them. (Unless a studio model, because they have their own payout amounts, but that's a studio issue, not a CB issue.)

How can I find more about these Studios on the internet? I've tried searching terms like "Cam Studio," and I get results that have nothing to do with what I'm looking for.

 

[Dubious]

Based on stats ive gathered 29% of packages sold are purchased 10.99 or cheaper. On average chaturbate sells tokens at 0.08452.

Where / how have you gathered these stats? The only statistical sites I know of are Statbate and CB Explorer . . the accuracy of whose numbers do not stand up when compared side-by-side

 

[Vixxen81]

How can I find more about these Studios on the internet? I've tried searching terms like "Cam Studio," and I get results that have nothing to do with what I'm looking for.

Why would you want to know more about studios?

 

[cbhours]

The only statistical sites I know of are Statbate and CB Explorer

Multiple 10k affiliate transaction exports and claude ai processing them for me. I didn't publish them on any sites.

 

[NotYou]

How can I find more about these Studios on the internet? I've tried searching terms like "Cam Studio," and I get results that have nothing to do with what I'm looking for.

There is no reason or need for you to know more about studios so there is no point trying to search for them.
All you need to know for them is the fact a lot of models use a studio for different reasons, a lot don't have place at home to cam from, or they are not so tech savvy, so having somewhere like a studio to go and work from is the best option for them, and in return the studio takes a 40% - 60% (usually) cut from the earnings, to pay for the room, internet, tech help and anything else (some studios are very good and useful, some are bad and lazy, some are pure exploitive). That right there is all you need to know.

But all in all, just tip the model as much as you can, enjoy with her and don't be a dick to her/them, and just enjoy.

 

[pbonACF]

...couldn’t, for example, the users fakemember, ghostaccount, and daddywarbucks in a Model's Room APPEAR to be Tipping very generously in order to generate buzz & excitement in the Model’s room and motivate other Members to Tip...?

Especially on page 1. This is the landing page for people coming to the site, and it is beneficial to CB that page 1 rooms always appear alive and fun.

However, CB code tracks tokens being cycled back to the model. So it is unlikely the shell game can get you on to page 1. For example, models can't pay members to join their Fan Club. (I guess they could reimburse them

 

[Vixxen81]

Especially on page 1. This is the landing page for people coming to the site, and it is beneficial to CB that page 1 rooms always appear alive and fun.

However, CB code tracks tokens being cycled back to the model. So it is unlikely the shell game can get you on to page 1. For example, models can't pay members to join their Fan Club. (I guess they could reimburse them

But broadcasters can turn greys into 1 token blues if the viewer becomes age verified. One room was notorious for it.

 

[NotYou]

But broadcasters can turn greys into 1 token blues if the viewer becomes age verified. One room was notorious for it.

Yes but only if they keep hold of 1 token though, otherwise as soon as they release that last token, they go back to grey because you have to purchase tokens to stay blue with 0 balance. I have tested this myself in the past out of curiosity (years ago to be fair, maybe it has changed since but CB don't usually change that much)

 

[Vixxen81]

Yes but only if they keep hold of 1 token though, otherwise as soon as they release that last token, they go back to grey because you have to purchase tokens to stay blue with 0 balance. I have tested this myself in the past out of curiosity (years ago to be fair, maybe it has changed since but CB don't usually change that much)

I would not be surprised if they inspired the change in that...the room didn't allow grays to chat but saw they had a ton of grays. "Give ya one token. If you verify." So, they did.

That? I would consider artificial inflation of a room. Haven't seen the room online in ages and they stopped the sign up thing after some other controversies. Can't quite recall the time line on that.

 

[Dubious]

But broadcasters can turn greys into 1 token blues if the viewer becomes age verified. One room was notorious for it.

I know we can level-down the color of our aliases . . I had no idea it was possible to level-up!