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Hello there.

Cam model trainer here (7 years experience in the field).
I am working on a cam model tutorial website. The first series will be ready soon.
The target audience is beginner models or models who aren't doing that great money wise.

Some details about the series:
1. Difficulty level: medium
2. Duration: 1-2 hours of videos
3. Content: clothes, makeup, lighting, websites (pros and cons), pc configuration, communication exercises, mental exercises, when and how to work, how to manage a small room, how to manage a big one, how to bring people in your room and much more.

This is my question:
How much do you think I should charge. More to the point, were you interested, how much would you be comfortable paying to get access to them? Please don't just pick the smallest price :)

Thank you for your input.
 
This is my question:
How much do you think I should charge.
Considering there is a lot of free information around (like this forum you found) I'd suggest $0.
 
I'd pay nothing for it since this forum exists and I think the girls getting into this industry should research things on their own.

There's so much free info on this business around, good info at that, it's a bit... odd... for you to charge for it. There's this forum, stripperweb, and camgirlwiki, as well as countless blogs run by cammodels that give out info and help for free.
 
$0 because with sites like ACF, SW, WCG, what is the point? There is already so much information out there. Plus they are pretty great communities where we help each other and share with our experiences and advice, free of charge.

I like how you guys think it's clothes, makeup, ect. I wore baggy ass sweat pants and a sports bra I couldn't easily take off last night and earned what most people earn in a week in 3 hours. You can't teach hustle and likability. Something that might entice you, will probably not entice 100 other dudes who come visit a models room.

Also what the fuck is a cammodel trainer?
 
How long have you been webcamming and how successful have you been? Have you ranked on all of these sites yourself? You say 7 years experience, do you mean camming or watching camgirls and telling them what to do then claiming their success? (whether they want it or not) Has this 7 years literally been your full time job which you have been paid by a company to do? Or is it just a hobby?

I wouldn't pay anything seeing as you don't seem to be selling particularly useful information. It's all pretty no brainer and a lot of it is so model specific I don't think you could offer advice on it. I also don't particularly like men telling me how to work seeing as camming is personality specific and cannot be forced.

clothes- Some models make bank with t-shirts, some with lingerie. This is entirely personal preference. What makes you qualified?
makeup- Most girls know how to do their own make up. Probably better than you. Are you a make up artist? Do you make successful make up tutorial vids on youtube?
lighting- This is actually useful if you know what you're talking about. As in have actually set up and tried out a bunch of lighting yourself and know which is the most popular.
websites (pros and cons)- What is your experience of this?
pc configuration- This is usually told to you by the site you wish to work for. Though there is lots of free information on ACF.
communication exercises- I am confused as to what this means... I think most cam models can communicate.
mental exercises- Again, not entirely sure what you're getting at in terms of camming.
when and how to work- This sounds a bit controlling and should be up to the model alone.
how to manage a small room- Have you modeled with a small room and managed it well?
how to manage a big one- Have you modeled with a big room and managed it well?
how to bring people in your room and much more- How has your experience been of bringing people into your room?

Things that models do sometimes pay people for (though probably not a random member but an actual professional they looked up and hired)-

Help with HTML to make their profiles awesome. (or HTML lessons)
Assistance with uploading and editing content.
Updates on websites and profiles.
Creation of interesting games which need expertise in computing (if they don't have it)
Accountancy
Photography (or photography lessons)

Basically assistant work for handling the more mundane parts of the behind the scenes work so they can spend more time and energy on cam. That is all I would pay someone for, and they would have to be excellent and someone I trust.

When I was newer to camming I was approached by the "helping" members. They were not helpful, they were controlling and difficult and eventually damaged my room and my enjoyment of camming. I gave them attention because I was led to believe they might spend, when really they wanted free attention for their "service". But by doing so they took my attention away from the room.
It is all very well and good to say there is a set way to cam, but the beauty of webcamming is there are thousands of different ways to cam. People visit models because they are real, not girls who are being directed by some fat male manager in a completely unrealistic porn shoot. Members don't want your idea of a good model, they want the real thing, they want her. They don't want a model who is being controlled in the background by another dude, they want the real experience. If anything, they want to be the one doing the controlling. This is why many members don't like studio models, even if it doesn't effect her camming, they don't like the idea that it is not "her" they are with. You've also got to remember that if the model isn't being true to herself, she won't meet the members she would get along with, which wouldn't be fun. The "wrong" type of members can bring you money, but if it makes working unbearable then you will burn out fast and will stop working altogether.

What you are offering could do a lot more damage than good. There are lots of girls here who have offered great information over the years which I have been able to take, but not one of them has thrust this information at me telling me it is a formula to success in the way that you appear to be doing. Some things have worked, many haven't. But it has always been up to me to choose what might work and put my own camming style into it. Then if (and when) I lose money because I try something new, it is all down to me. If I had paid someone for that information and I lost money and potential followers because of it, I would be furious. How would you handle this? Would you be willing to reimburse what they would usually have made?
 
That depends, are you a cam model?

I would pay absolutely nothing to get coached by a non cam model.

Sign up for chaturbate or SM. Cam consistantly for 6 months to a year and then get back to me.

People who aren't in the industry acting as experts and trying to charge money for it is just insulting to those of us busting our ass in the industry.
 
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Thank you all for your input. Hopefully the tutorials I will soon publish will help new models succeed.
Btw, the idea was not mine, it was requested by some of the girls I coached, although that doesn't necessarily speak to my expertise.
Also, in my opinion, new models need substantially more help than contradicting forum posts.
 
Also, in my opinion, new models need substantially more help than contradicting forum posts.

You havent been in the model only section where the majority of help actually is ;) this is the most helpful resource I have found. And I have done A LOT of reading on camming.

On that note thanks for this resource Amber! With post like this it really makes you appreciate the generosity of making this so easily accessible for us models.
 
new models need substantially more help than contradicting forum posts.
And models who fail to figure out how to navigate or properly read forum posts and other help posts on the Internet are bound to fail.... so...

(it's a sign they aren't that Internet or computer savvy, which is key to being successful as a webcam model.)
 
And models who fail to figure out how to navigate or properly read forum posts and other help posts on the Internet are bound to fail.... so...

(it's a sign they aren't that Internet or computer savvy, which is key to being successful as a webcam model.)

Amber, so basically, those who can't do it on their own...just fuck em, right?
Why did I go to school for so many years, I should have just gone to the library :)
 
Also, in my opinion, new models need substantially more help than contradicting forum posts.

I think all the tens of thousands of successful webcam models who didn't get your help (or anyone's help) would disagree. As would the large amount of models (including myself) who found success from using this forum as a source of information.
It really isn't rocket science:
- Get decent lighting, try it out at different angles to get the best lighting for you (which doesn't blind you)
- Make sure you have a fast enough computer to get good quality
- Make sure your internet is fast enough
- Get a decent webcam, there aren't many to choose from and that information takes about 5 minutes to find out which one to get.
- Watch other cam models for research
- Put on some make up, underwear and a top (I'm sure most girls can manage this without assistance)
- Log on and start chatting and doing shows.
- Accept that it is work and therefore you will need to put in the time, effort and energy to keep it going.

For many girls it is that easy, and all of these things are basically stuff that the model has to do on her own. From there a lot that makes success is luck. You may think that girls with a lower camscore are somehow failing, but girls in the top 2000 on MFC make about the same as an entry level job after university. Top 1000 you're talking about what many people get after years of experience in a field. Just a 1000 camscore makes about double what the minimum wage is in England. So no, I do not believe most models, whether new or not, "need" anyone's help. Yes there is always room for improvement, and some girls get really unfortunate and have to work their way up the ranks by working out what it is that works for them.
I would like to know why you believe that you are qualified in this area, and at least why you are any more qualified than a group of models on a free and supportive forum who have actually been through the experience of modelling themselves. Many from low camscore to high ones.

You may have been helpful to some models who are new and have no idea what is going on. I do not know what it is you do. But you also may have been damaging to their camming experience. An example of a helpful member who first visited me was one who took me in long private shows which meant my camscore didn't tank, showed me how to set up a basic account and took me around the site so I could see other models (which at this point I didn't know I could do), he then forwarded me to ACF (though he didn't use this site). That was quite literally all I needed.
I didn't choose to join ACF until some months later. I met another "helpful" member, who basically made me feel like crap about camming because I apparently wasn't successful enough with my 2k camscore and 30 people in the room. He told me to buy expensive lighting which put me into debt (and I actually hated), and he basically tried to dictate how I acted in the room, which brought in more people yes, but it was not my style and I was exhausted from it. I also made less money, which to me was more important than a busy room. I ended up camming less because he took the fun away. He probably felt he was helpful, and he had all sorts of stories about his training qualifications, so maybe with some girls it worked. But in my case, I was new and vulnerable and he took advantage. He did not have my best interests at heart, as any member who does would be bringing your camscore up with tips of a financial type. He just wanted to enjoy the thrill of controlling a girls room and making it successful. I joined ACF shortly afterwards, and after joining, my camscore went up and I became much more successful. Controlling "I will help coach you" members stopped bothering me, which is probably the best part of having a camscore above 3/4k.

What I needed all along was a wealth of information that I could sift through, with lots of different reviews and opinions from people who have tried and tested methods so I could find what I wanted and how to make it work for me.
At the end of the day, if I choose to buy a juicer, I won't take advice from one review. I will read through hundreds of reviews and check out their star ratings. I will look up articles on what type to buy and the pros and the cons. I will watch youtube videos, I will access every bit of information I can. Because I want an item that works, and if you were to look at anything statistically you would be looking at a large selection of information rather than one review, which could be an abnormality.

Maybe I am just a nerd and spend too much time and effort considering purchases, but why would I spend that much time over ensuring I get the right kitchen appliance, when I wouldn't do it for my own career? There is a wealth of information on the internet for kitchen appliance reviews, which shows that people do clearly use them and find them helpful in making decisions. New camgirls often feel at a loss because they don't know where to access information, therefore "helpful" members might seem like their only option. This is not true though, there are places to gain resources as a camgirl, such as this site. And I will bet you that no one member knows more about the inside of this industry than most of the camgirls here, let alone all of of combining information together. If you care about a model's success, by all means help her, but also send her here. Let her work it out for herself, she will last longer in the end.

Asking new models (who are likely broke and feeling desperate), for money to give your likely biased information when you are aware they can come here and get a wealth of information, help and support for free, is incredibly exploitative. You are not helping models, you are trying to exploit them out of their money before they've even made it. Some members try to exploit new models in this way by getting free attention from them and getting a thrill from "helping". But in asking for money you might as well be one of the studios which pretends to be the official site and then takes a cut of a models income. It is taking advantage and it isn't right.
 
Amber, so basically, those who can't do it on their own...just fuck em, right?
Why did I go to school for so many years, I should have just gone to the library :)

if you have 0 experience in the industry no one will listen to you.

I wouldn't take advice from a hair dresser that never cut hair.. I would never get tattoo'd by someone who has never had proper knowledge and training.. Im sure you wouldn't go to a doctor who didn't go to medical school... Would you a hire a lawyer to defend you in a court of law with no experience or schooling, would you go seek advice from a financial planner who had 0 financial planning advice? think of all these things that require training and knowledge and why you wouldn't go to them..


SO why the fuck would anyone listen to you for camming advice when you have never been in the adult industry and have 0 knowledge other than bullshit you will spew all over the internet..This forum is amazing and the info is ALL FREE.. so why the fuck would someone pay for advice from someone with no knowledge. I know you can't be this stupid right? I seriously don't understand why people who HAVE never been in the industry think they can come in and give advice and or make some website we are all going to want to join. If you have no real experience as a sex worker how can you give advice to sex workers? You have never made it on the C4S Top 50 (for film makers), You have never made it on Miss MFC and won or got close (for camming) or anything like that so to me you don't know shit and you probably has no clue what it takes to make clips or how a production company works. You know who does... ME. I've been running one for 5 years. These are the people you listen to not some dude/girl who has never stepped foot in the industry and thinks they know it all because you don't. Come back when your successful and then maybe people will listen to you but for now... No.


So if you still think you can make it here your delusional and then the answer is: yes you went to school to work in a fucking library.. In your first post you mention nothing about saving for a 401k, How to incorporate yourself, how to pay your taxes.. nothing .. So your initial thing is lighting and camera's when you start off with teaching the wrong thing. How about saving money for taxes and being smart. Your already giving out the wrong advice.. Oh man.
 
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I think all the tens of thousands of successful webcam models who didn't get your help (or anyone's help) would disagree. As would the large amount of models (including myself) who found success from using this forum as a source of information.
It really isn't rocket science:
- Get decent lighting, try it out at different angles to get the best lighting for you (which doesn't blind you)
- Make sure you have a fast enough computer to get good quality
- Make sure your internet is fast enough
- Get a decent webcam, there aren't many to choose from and that information takes about 5 minutes to find out which one to get.
- Watch other cam models for research
- Put on some make up, underwear and a top (I'm sure most girls can manage this without assistance)
- Log on and start chatting and doing shows.
- Accept that it is work and therefore you will need to put in the time, effort and energy to keep it going.

I think you don't really understand what help means.
If I were to shove your great list to a model that needs help, she would look at me the same way I'm reading your post and ask me whaaaat?

Please stop looking at help the way an experienced person looks at newbies. Your perspective should change very fast and until then stop making so much damage, since new models might really take your word just because you make decent money.
- "Get decent lighting, try it out at different angles to get the best lighting for you (which doesn't blind you)" - OMG - what is decent lighting, what makes it decent, decent reported to what, what kind of bulbs, why not set de webcam differently, where to buy them from, why is decent lighting better than partially dark (as so many models use), etc, etc , etc... How to setup partial darkness, how to change angles, how to manage sunlight when camming OMG...
- Make sure you have a fast enough computer to get good quality - what makes a computer decent, what software to use, why use that screen and not another since it creates soooo many different issues...
- Make sure your internet is fast enough - what is fast enough, how do I know which isp to pick, which package, what is guaranteed up speed, how to test, how to understand their offers
- Get a decent webcam, there aren't many to choose from and that information takes about 5 minutes to find out which one to get. - Again...search this forum and you will see why your answer is just....
- Watch other cam models for research - There is a lot of work involved in a successful room, and the important thing is that it looks effortless: you can't peek behind the curtain without seeing the curtain. Also...cam models tend to have those 3 6 7 regulars who constantly help, without them they will drop like rocks. Of course those are the result of their work but still, you can't compare or expect the same treatment when you're not popular.
- Put on some makeup, underwear and a top (I'm sure most girls can manage this without assistance) REALLY? : are you aware that there are at least 6 colors that the webcams aren't able to manage properly from software and that are a definitely NO NO if you're camming? no shapes and the webcam adjusts the others in the room? Didn't you ever wonder why whenever you're setting your webcam before logging, no matter what you do you can't really get that great look that you had yesterday? That is why my dear, you had no proper training and no curiosity to dive deeper into understanding what camming can be. MAKEUP - this is just to easy...sooo many things girls don't understand when it comes to screen makeup compared to street makeup, and even rather- should you even wear it? etc.... What makeup with what kind of lighting...
- Log on and start chatting and doing shows. -WOW that is just....WOW
- Accept that it is work and therefore you will need to put in the time, effort and energy to keep it going. HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW
 
So basically you're just a dude who's watched camgirls for "7 years" and thinks that gives you "experience" enough that you think you have the right to charge naive girls for information that is free everywhere else on the internet.

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I think you don't really understand what help means.
If I were to shove your great list to a model that needs help, she would look at me the same way I'm reading your post and ask me whaaaat?

Please stop looking at help the way an experienced person looks at newbies. Your perspective should change very fast and until then stop making so much damage, since new models might really take your word just because you make decent money.
- "Get decent lighting, try it out at different angles to get the best lighting for you (which doesn't blind you)" - OMG - what is decent lighting, what makes it decent, decent reported to what, what kind of bulbs, why not set de webcam differently, where to buy them from, why is decent lighting better than partially dark (as so many models use), etc, etc , etc... How to setup partial darkness, how to change angles, how to manage sunlight when camming OMG...
- Make sure you have a fast enough computer to get good quality - what makes a computer decent, what software to use, why use that screen and not another since it creates soooo many different issues...
- Make sure your internet is fast enough - what is fast enough, how do I know which isp to pick, which package, what is guaranteed up speed, how to test, how to understand their offers
- Get a decent webcam, there aren't many to choose from and that information takes about 5 minutes to find out which one to get. - Again...search this forum and you will see why your answer is just....
- Watch other cam models for research - There is a lot of work involved in a successful room, and the important thing is that it looks effortless: you can't peek behind the curtain without seeing the curtain. Also...cam models tend to have those 3 6 7 regulars who constantly help, without them they will drop like rocks. Of course those are the result of their work but still, you can't compare or expect the same treatment when you're not popular.
- Put on some makeup, underwear and a top (I'm sure most girls can manage this without assistance) REALLY? : are you aware that there are at least 6 colors that the webcams aren't able to manage properly from software and that are a definitely NO NO if you're camming? no shapes and the webcam adjusts the others in the room? Didn't you ever wonder why whenever you're setting your webcam before logging, no matter what you do you can't really get that great look that you had yesterday? That is why my dear, you had no proper training and no curiosity to dive deeper into understanding what camming can be. MAKEUP - this is just to easy...sooo many things girls don't understand when it comes to screen makeup compared to street makeup, and even rather- should you even wear it? etc.... What makeup with what kind of lighting...
- Log on and start chatting and doing shows. -WOW that is just....WOW
- Accept that it is work and therefore you will need to put in the time, effort and energy to keep it going. HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW

Everything I put on there doesn't take long to work out for yourself if you have half a brain, and the information is available. This forum is easy to navigate, I still use it when I fancy changing up my lighting etc. And if the information isn't already available I ask and people will answer or direct me to the information. You act like it is so difficult without your help, yet like I said, tens of thousands of models manage this all by themselves. Sometimes a little help is nice, but part of webcamming is being self employed, meaning you are going to have to accept responsibility and find information for yourself. You would be better off teaching them how to access their own information than giving it to them yourself if you really care about them having long prosperous careers.

They certainly don't need to pay for this information, or need it to come from one person. As for make up, it is trail and error of what works on cam and looks good. I managed to get a 4k camscore pretty quickly after starting by using this site, and when I decided to go for top 100 I made it. I have cammed with no regulars around, and I have cammed with regulars around. My earnings tend to be pretty similar, when my regulars aren't around I usually make new ones. So no it is not just about having regulars, but gaining regulars is important, largely due to a cam model's mental well being.

And also, no I did not ever wonder why make up looks differently on webcam to real life, it is pretty obvious. In a world of selfies I think most girls are aware of screen make up versus real life make up. And if they aren't, they will work it out for themselves. Literally, trail, error, learned lesson. Problem sorted. This is actually the fun part for many girls. And it's hardly like regular make up makes you look awful. I usually make more when I wear less make up, the kind I would wear day to day, sometimes even no make up has been best. Most girls have been experimenting with make up since before their teens, so unless you are a make up artist, I don't see how your opinion is relevant.
 
So basically you're just a dude who's watched camgirls for "7 years" and thinks that gives you "experience" enough that you think you have the right to charge naive girls for information that is free everywhere else on the internet.

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Thank you for your thoughts
 
Hello there.

Cam model trainer here (7 years experience in the field).

Wot? A cam model trainer!!! Not in this universe mate!:rofl:

This is my question:
How much do you think I should charge. More to the point, were you interested, how much would you be comfortable paying to get access to them? Please don't just pick the smallest price :)

Thank you for your input.

Dude, you are just an opportunistic, oleaginous, jackass! Asking for cash in exchange for advice, which is readily available for free in many places... such as through this forum and others... pretty much reveals your true intention is NOT to assist any new models, but to line your own pockets at their expense. :facepalm:
 
Wot? A cam model trainer!!! Not in this universe mate!:rofl:



Dude, you are just an opportunistic, oleaginous, jackass! Asking for cash in exchange for advice, which is readily available for free in many places... such as through this forum and others... pretty much reveals your true intention is NOT to assist any new models, but to line your own pockets at their expense. :facepalm:
Lol wicked...you really don't like people :)
Thank you for your input
 
Hello there.

Cam model trainer here (7 years experience in the field).
I am working on a cam model tutorial website. The first series will be ready soon.
The target audience is beginner models or models who aren't doing that great money wise.

Some details about the series:
1. Difficulty level: medium
2. Duration: 1-2 hours of videos
3. Content: clothes, makeup, lighting, websites (pros and cons), pc configuration, communication exercises, mental exercises, when and how to work, how to manage a small room, how to manage a big one, how to bring people in your room and much more.

This is my question:
How much do you think I should charge. More to the point, were you interested, how much would you be comfortable paying to get access to them? Please don't just pick the smallest price :)

Thank you for your input.

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