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AmberCutie

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AmberCutie
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Let me give you a little back story of the happenings over the last few weeks...

I don't do many private shows on MFC. I don't like spending one on one time with someone I haven't really gotten to know, and I've had bad experiences with a few strangers taking me into a private show in the past. But a few weeks ago, I decided to take someone up on their offer since they had been in some of my group shows and seemed to be cool.

Since that initial show, he and I have spent a lot of time in "true private," where no one can spy on it, so it's really just one on one. (Due to the fact that no one can watch, no one knows who this person is, and I am keeping it anonymous so please don't ask who it is. :nono: ) Now during these shows, it has been a little hard to understand what he wanted to do, since typing skills don't seem to be his strong suit, and he didn't talk all that much in the first place. All in all, he seemed to be satisfied with what we were doing. He made a few requests that were out of my scope, but we just moved on.

He repeatedly asked if I could do more daytime shows, to which I told him I may possibly be on some other days, but no guarantees. I told him Thursdays were generally the day I had set aside for a daytime show. But then last week, with Jobs' father visiting, I couldn't make it on during the day. I put out a Tweet regarding my schedule change, and got on that night. He proceeded to make me feel guilty for not being on during that day, telling me I hurt his feelings and that he was mad. Really? Jeez. I explained to him that I've been working on MFC for nearly 8 months and I have a routine down and that I apologized if he felt left out of it, but that's how I roll. Eventually he said he'd get over it and he'd see me the next day. He acted pretty normal after that.

Then comes last night. I had been talking to him a little in private messages for an hour or two. Then this conversation happens:

11:41:07 PM person: hi love do u now if u have day shift
11:42:53 PM AmberCutie: other days i dunno. i may try to get on tomorrow. but im not sure. doon't rearrange anything for it!
11:42:57 PM AmberCutie: i dont wanna feel guilty if i cant get on
11:43:48 PM person: ok isee u thursdayday
11:43:59 PM AmberCutie: k
11:59:08 PM person: do u have phone in pvt room
12:00:17 AM AmberCutie: no i only hav emy personal phone so i dont use it for here
12:02:08 AM person: it is hard for me typ and enjoywould u consider just for one hour
12:02:28 AM AmberCutie: no phone sowwy.
12:03:35 AM person: thats rude
12:03:51 AM AmberCutie: what is?
12:05:02 AM person: other model have phone in room for pvt
12:05:21 AM AmberCutie: did you really just call me rude because i won't use the phone?
12:06:20 AM person: for the time we r inpvt
12:06:34 AM AmberCutie: you think it's rude that i wont use my phone?
12:07:03 AM person: i pay for the tmie
12:07:34 AM AmberCutie: ok listen to this
12:07:37 AM AmberCutie: i know you pay for the time
12:07:41 AM AmberCutie: this is how the site works
12:07:49 AM AmberCutie: you get to watch and interact with me via the computer
12:07:58 AM AmberCutie: no one says i need to use a phone or other means to entertain you during that time
12:08:06 AM AmberCutie: if you dont have fun with me as is, you can kindly NOT take me on sh ow
12:08:28 AM AmberCutie: this neediness that you've been showing to me is hard to handle. w hiole i appreciate your generosity, i will not bend over backwards for t hat.
12:09:04 AM AmberCutie: do you understand?
12:09:32 AM AmberCutie: and twice now you've called me rude
12:09:40 AM AmberCutie: and that, in itself, is rude.
12:10:11 AM AmberCutie: Thank you for all you've done for me, but I think you s hould find another girl who is willing to do all you require.
12:10:25 AM person: understood
12:11:03 AM AmberCutie: thanks again for all youv'e done. have fun on the site. take care.
12:12:25 AM person: u taking evry think out of me
12:13:00 AM AmberCutie: your attitude about your expectations of me exhausts me
12:13:40 AM person: allisaid to have two way conwersation
12:14:03 AM AmberCutie: i can't handle it anymore.
12:14:08 AM AmberCutie: twice you've called me rude
12:14:12 AM AmberCutie: its ridiculous
12:14:52 AM person: sorry
12:15:04 AM AmberCutie: I can't be myself with you when I know you are like this.
12:15:07 AM AmberCutie: So I think we're done.
12:16:27 AM person: soorry idident meanit that way
12:16:47 AM AmberCutie: no more tips ok?
12:16:54 AM AmberCutie: i don't want you to waste your tokens on me.
12:17:13 AM person: promise
12:17:54 AM AmberCutie: watch in my room if you like but i don't want any more of your tokens.
12:18:23 AM person: ok

For 1: Don't call me rude. I pride myself on being polite, and have been accused of being TOO NICE for fuck's sake.
For 2: When you "pay for the time" you're paying for what you see on the screen. You are not paying for the model to use outside resources to entertain you.
For 3: "I didn't mean it that way" does not make it any less offensive after it's been said and done.

After feeling like this guy really wanted me to do cartwheels through flaming hoops for him over the past few weeks, plus laying a guilt trip on me when I don't rearrange my schedule for him, this moment was just the straw that broke the camel's back for me. I wouldn't feel right accepting any more tokens from him at this point, because he obviously doesn't understand me, nor respect the way I work. With the way he threw tokens around, he probably could have single handedly put me up in the top 10 if I had just gone along with him, but I won't do it. As much as I want to be up there, I won't pretend to be someone's friend in order to get there. I'm just going to have fun and bust ass.
 
Sweetheart, you don't deserve to be talked to like that. You work your fucking ass off as it is. If that guy wasn't respecting that, then he wasn't respecting you. Therefore, he's not worth wasting a damn second on.

Sure, someone might say "well, doing that isn't good for business." And I say: fuck business. If someone's going to insult you while you're working (and yes, this qualifies as "work"), you have every right to tell them to go fuck themselves. So if telling him to go away or posting that hurts you, so fucking what.

Anyway, if you're not having fun with someone in a show, is it really worth it to you to do the show? Sure, he's paying well. But is getting paid well for that time worth not enjoying the time?

And to the guy in question (though he'll probably never read this): I think I speak on behalf of everyone here when I tell you to NEVER speak to our girl like that. You're damn lucky you even got to spend time with her in the first place. And then to go call her "rude" because she has her limits? Fuck you then. Go take your needs to some cheap ass token whore who ain't worth shit. Because you don't deserve the brillance of Amber.

/rant
 
AmberCutie said:
After feeling like this guy really wanted me to do cartwheels through flaming hoops for him over the past few weeks, plus laying a guilt trip on me when I don't rearrange my schedule for him, this moment was just the straw that broke the camel's back for me. I wouldn't feel right accepting any more tokens from him at this point, because he obviously doesn't understand me, nor respect the way I work. With the way he threw tokens around, he probably could have single handedly put me up in the top 10 if I had just gone along with him, but I won't do it. As much as I want to be up there, I won't pretend to be someone's friend in order to get there. I'm just going to have fun and bust ass.

MOAR of this plz.lol
 
Man, it's great that you have so much patience with the customers.
I'd have probably snapped, which isn't a good thing, but when people don't get what I'm saying the first couple times, I tend to yell.
 
Look I just don't think it's unreasonable to ask for you to use a phone. Sheesh you didn't need to go all Sharon Osbourne on me

And it's hard to type when both of my hands are preoccupied ok
 
Cypher_17 said:
Look I just don't think it's unreasonable to ask for you to use a phone. Sheesh you didn't need to go all Sharon Osbourne on me

And it's hard to type when both of my hands are preoccupied ok

lol@ Sharon Osbourne reference. I had to think about that one for a sec.
 
Jeez. I always wondered what bad experiences (besides those you have already mentioned) could have turned you off privates, but now I completely understand. I think every model has one douche bag who acts like this or similar, which if you think about it is fucking sad. o_O Especially with models like yourself who are so giving & nice.
 
Totally agree with you all the way Amber... It isn't rude at all for you to do something you aren't comfortable with! And it's not even like you were a bitch about it, you even apologized!

I think I might start adopting your method of only doing privates with friends... I had one today where the guy was just like, "Cum now. Scream bb" ...

Dude, I know you are paying for my time, but I'm still a woman and a person! I can't just cum on command (unless you want me to fake it, which I'm not into, unless you know I'm faking it, cause then I'm still being honest, but then what's the point if you know it's fake... lol) And I don't scream unless I'm getting fucked really hard, and even then I'm not sure it would be necessarily a scream... I am sorry, I just don't give myself that kind of reaction with a toy - it's not the same as a man slamming his body into me! *shares some of your Camgirl rage*

Anyway, good for you Amber. You handled it well and I hope you don't let him really get to ya.
 
NaughtyNaomi said:
Anyway, good for you Amber. You handled it well and I hope you don't let him really get to ya.

Yeah I am still a little rage filled today. It was just a bit of an annoying night all in all, anyway. That was the icing on the cake. I'm going to try and brush it off and carry on tonight, but there's a chance my patience is too thin to work a full night tonight. We'll see.
 
all models have some line that they won't cross, some are way higher than others, but if someone can't respect that you are uncomfortable doing something they aren't worth your time, even if they are paying for it.
 
I've noticed more women taking privates with friends (read: proven loyal, respectable, fun clients) only rather than whomever happens to want one. It took about a minute to ponder but makes complete sense to me. Prove yourself worthy in public chat and group show, then maybe if the woman deems you worthy, you may partake in a private show with her. I see a lot of guys on the site forget a private show isn't an "I don't want anyone else to see/read what goes on" show. Perhaps by the same token, women treat private shows differently. One might flash only in public chat and reserve private for full nude plus orgasm show whereas another may only accept private shows from fairly well known clients. I've seen enough (ie as in plenty) women that have stated "I don't know you that well, so get to know me and they we can go private once I'm comfortable".

People, in general life, but on a more minute level, the guys on the site (MFC) have a sense of entitlement. This "I'm paying for it" attitude is sickening, to say the least. Big fucking deal. Just remember the women allow us to share their time. Perhaps I'm one of the few that opine in that manner. Forgive my pontification.
 
Tubby, you are so right. And really, who can blame any model for making that rule. It's not being arrogant. It's saying "I need to be sure that I can trust you and have fun with you before we can have some private time." As long as it's clear what the rules are and how you can earn the privlege to have a private show is clear, I see no problem with doing that at all.
 
*BIG hugs* to you Amber, I know what needy buggers some of those guys can be and lawd is it draining. You handled it exceptionally well.

And you're very lucky to have so many regular visitors who have the attitude that they describe in this thread, I wish more of my guys realised what hard 'yakka' (work) this job can be. x
 
My sage advice: Fuck 'em.

And I don't mean fuck 'em, I mean FUCK 'em.
 
fuck em? fuck em where? fuck em in their fuckin fuckface asses or fuck those fuckers wallets?
 
Fuck them meaning "people like that aren't worth the paper I wipe my ass with and should be disregarded as a polite human being forevermore while said individual's MFC moniker will be passed onto my trusted model friends so they may ban him from their room and save themselves the trouble of dealing with what I went through regarding this individual". "Fuck them" is just easier to type. Enon, I've noticed, appreciates brevity. :lol:
 
tubby556 said:
Fuck them meaning "people like that aren't worth the paper I wipe my ass with and should be disregarded as a polite human being forevermore while said individual's MFC moniker will be passed onto my trusted model friends so they may ban him from their room and save themselves the trouble of dealing with what I went through regarding this individual". "Fuck them" is just easier to type. Enon, I've noticed, appreciates brevity. :lol:

I don't know about you, but the paper I wipe my ass with is pretty important. I mean it's that, or walk around with a shit covered ass.
 
I have always wondered why models take privates with only friends, but now I know. The past couple days I have had the WORST private shows, the majority of them being like a minute or so. "Scream bb SCREAM" "CUM NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWW" "RIGHT NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW" sorts of things, then after 54 tokens "tnx" and leaves. I mean I get it, guys jerk of a whole bunch in public chat then just take the girl private to cum with her or whatever nonsense. Its just irritating. Thank goodness, I have regulars that will let me take the time I need to truly enjoy myself. It always helps with days like those.

Amber, don't beat yourself up over it even though it is super frustrating. We all love you here, and you can rage anytime :)
 
Hello Amber,

You are so right it is a matter of respect. No money is worth being treated so badly. There are some guy's that don't get how MFC sight works. They have no respect for woman at all they just want to get off. They don't get that if you show respect you shall be respected in return and this will make the whole experience so much better.

Good on you Amber for standing up for yourself. You are a class act.
 
i loved the 12:07-12:10 bit where you just went off. i can just see you furiously pounding away on your keyboard. :lol:

anyway, i can see why you ladies would become wary of people and going private. but, eh, don't let a few bad apples ruin your time and experience. i do think the way you handled it is the best way that it could be handled. so good job. :clap:
 
I saw this linked so I'm shamelessly gravedigging.

A few times a week we are seeing threads from models (myself included) who are upset and unsure of what to do because a certain member has started to ignore their boundaries, take up a lot of their time and make them feel really uncomfortable.

Sometimes this happens because a member acts so nice and friendly at first, but then slowly demands more and more until they are basically blights on our lives. (Harsh? Perhaps, but I think more than a few models can name a regular that has made us so anxious that it was hard to even get online, camming or not)

Other times, we allow this to happen because that member seems to always have tokens for us, either with amazing big tips or just always being there to help finish countdowns.

But it is important for you ladies to remember: You always have the right to say no. There is never a situation where you have to give in to demands that make you uncomfortable.

Some ladies are happy to bend their own rules to provide for big spenders. I support this fully! But a lot of us have limits and lines that we do not want to break. And you should never allow a member to pressure you in to doing things you are uncomfortable with.

Miss Amber turned down a big tipper because he was pushing her boundaries. Did her camscore drop by thousands of points? Did she have to give up MFC because she lost one tipper? Did she start to make only dollars an hour? No.

Turning away one member will not destroy your career. Turning away one member will not hurt you in the long run. Turning away one member who makes you feel guilty, nervous, anxious, stressed, angry or used is a good thing. And you should do it as often as you need to make your camming life a safe and happy place.
 
Evvie said:
I saw this linked so I'm shamelessly gravedigging.

Turning away one member will not destroy your career. Turning away one member will not hurt you in the long run. Turning away one member who makes you feel guilty, nervous, anxious, stressed, angry or used is a good thing. And you should do it as often as you need to make your camming life a safe and happy place.

Gravedigger accomplice here.

From a member's perspective, I have been turned off in a model's room where she allows one (or two) big tippers to run rampant through the room. I'm sure others have felt the same way. While it may hurt in the short term, getting rid of one or two members who either stress you out (which is noticeable) or piss off people in your room, the benefits in the long run should make up for it.
 
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Posting because I think a few other models around here should see this. Amber, your reaction was a great example of how a lot of other ladies should handle behavior like this. :thumbleft:
 
Jeez, lucky you cut him off while you did, what a needy bitch. Seemed like he was going to ask you to "go steady".
 
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