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[westkanye]

Hi, I cam on chaturbate under the name of westkanye. I have been camming good for the last month, but a new problem arose for me. How the hell can I get my dick up for 5 hours straight if i were to cam for 5 hours? There were times when someone tips and says "show me hard dick bb" but I couldn't because I cummed two times for a client in priv before that. I feel like i have lost alot of clients and my ratings went to shit because of this. I could talk to my audience and stuff like that but I lost my place to live, and am living with a friend. I don't talk anymore because I don't want my friend to know I cam. First it was very easy and fun money for me but now I'm kind of discouraged to even cam anymore. Any advice would be appreciated, thank you.

 

[Ms_Gingersnatch]

I don't have a dick, so I don't know any anatomical tricks for you. However, I think some simple math might go a long way. First, figure out how many tokens you need/want to make per day on cam. Then figure out how many times per day you can cum. Divide the tokens by the number of times you can cum. Then don't cum until you make that amount (let's call it X).

There are a few ways to do that:

1. Do public shows in which the final goal is you cumming, and the amount needed to get there is X;
2. Figure out how many minutes of private is required to earn X. The math would be X / the number of tokens you charge per minute. Let's call the result Y. Make a note in your profile or somewhere that tells members that you only cum in shows lasting at least Y minutes;
3. If someone is very insistent that he doesn't want to stay in private for Y minutes, but wants to see you cum, suggest that he can tip X to see you cum imminently.

So for example, let's say you want to earn 4000 tokens per day, you can cum twice a day, and you charge 60 tokens/min for private. Your goal would be to make 2000 tokens before cumming each time. So your public cum show goal would be 2000 tokens. Someone could also tip 2000 tokens to see you cum swiftly in private. You would have a policy of not cumming in private shows that last less than 30 minutes (2000tks / 60tks/min = 33.33 minutes, but I rounded down since you would probably hit the 30 minute mark and then need an additional 3 minutes to actually cum).

Remember that if you can only cum a couple times per day, that makes your cum a rare commodity. Don't feel bad for charging accordingly.

 

[AudriTwo]

I don't have a dick, so I don't know any anatomical tricks for you. However, I think some simple math might go a long way. First, figure out how many tokens you need/want to make per day on cam. Then figure out how many times per day you can cum. Divide the tokens by the number of times you can cum. Then don't cum until you make that amount (let's call it X).

There are a few ways to do that:

1. Do public shows in which the final goal is you cumming, and the amount needed to get there is X;
2. Figure out how many minutes of private is required to earn X. The math would be X / the number of tokens you charge per minute. Let's call the result Y. Make a note in your profile or somewhere that tells members that you only cum in shows lasting at least Y minutes;
3. If someone is very insistent that he doesn't want to stay in private for Y minutes, but wants to see you cum, suggest that he can tip X to see you cum imminently.

So for example, let's say you want to earn 4000 tokens per day, you can cum twice a day, and you charge 60 tokens/min for private. Your goal would be to make 2000 tokens before cumming each time. So your public cum show goal would be 2000 tokens. Someone could also tip 2000 tokens to see you cum swiftly in private. You would have a policy of not cumming in private shows that last less than 30 minutes (2000tks / 60tks/min = 33.33 minutes, but I rounded down since you would probably hit the 30 minute mark and then need an additional 3 minutes to actually cum).

Remember that if you can only cum a couple times per day, that makes your cum a rare commodity. Don't feel bad for charging accordingly.

math is so hot.

 

[westkanye]

Thanks alot for the helpful advice.

 

[cammingcouple]

I cam as a couple and use viagra when I'm going to be on for several hours. Aside from that, I also use an assortment of various supplements that help as well (and help me use a smaller dose of viagra for the same results).

 

[_pilya_]

This is interesting, I also often thought it must be harder for male models to perform on cam then girls. I always thought there was some magic gel or you guys just take viagra each time you go on cam.

Ms_Gingersnatch math solution was awesome though!

_pilya_

 

[westkanye]

How should I reply when people beg me or say "you are just doing this for the money". There are alot of ways I could respond to but am just wondering what the best response to that would be. Thanks alot guys

 

[Ms_Gingersnatch]

How should I reply when people beg me or say "you are just doing this for the money". There are alot of ways I could respond to but am just wondering what the best response to that would be. Thanks alot guys

I think that's the second most common issue dealt with by cam models, following "why the fuck is it so hard to log in consistently?"

Responses could range anywhere from flirty sales tactic to totally ignoring the comment to telling the beggar to lick his grandmother's anus. The right answer depends on a lot of things, including your persona, the person doing the begging, whether the beggar is likely to ever spend money on you, and who else is there to witness the conversation. Try watching other models and seeing how they deal with it and what you could adapt to your own style. Don't focus just on other male models, either; even outside camland, most women have been fielding unwelcome sexual demands since their preteen years.

One thing that took me awhile to internalize is that you don't ever owe anyone any explanation for why you run your room a certain way. When I started, I'd go into long explanations about why I would or wouldn't do something. That only resulted in people trying to argue the opposite and challenge my logic. "Because I said so" is a perfectly valid reason. Make parameters for your show/room, write them on your profile or room topic, and know in your heart that it's not a negotiation. Remember that people trying to get around your rules and limits aren't "boys being boys" - they're more like someone insisting that he should get a whole cart of groceries for $50 of monopoly money because... that sounds like a good deal to him. Requests to negotiate, alter, or bend your room policies should be treated as equally absurd. Because they are.

 

[AudriTwo]

How should I reply when people beg me or say "you are just doing this for the money". There are alot of ways I could respond to but am just wondering what the best response to that would be. Thanks alot guys

i break the fourth wall. i always respond because it's my body and if i want to show it for money, fine. if you don't have the money for me to show my body, fine. also i remind them i'm a cammodel and it's my job. i usually point out that the person is embarrassing themselves by acting so entitled. either that gets them to leave, tip, or try to toll (which then turns into live entertainment for my room or show a hint of me aggressiveness to entice a sub to take me to a show to dom them. i have a handful of regs who like to take me to exclusive for humiation and verbal abuse once i start going in freechat. channel it into your art.)

 

[Ms_Gingersnatch]

Oh, on a practical note, if you're in a private show, you could try a verbal cum show where you describe in graphic detail what it's going to be like when you cum. Sometimes that's more than enough.

For example, if the customer expresses a desire to see you cum, you can say, "Mmmm, look how hard you've got me! I know you're going you make me cum super hard..." Notice how the future tense implies that you'll cum when you're good and ready, but doesn't sound unsexy? Then you can describe details like where you'll cum, how hard, how much, how far it will shoot, etc. Hopefully the customer will either stay long enough to make it worth your while or will bust a nut just from the description. If he gets pushy about it, obviously you'll have to be more forceful and less subtle.

 

[SMuser69]

I cam as a couple and use viagra when I'm going to be on for several hours. Aside from that, I also use an assortment of various supplements that help as well (and help me use a smaller dose of viagra for the same results).

Do consider you're taking medications FOR WORK. Make sure you have access to insurance or good medical service before you get to dependent on popping pills for work. Risking long term effects for a few extra bucks is extra risk/reward gamble. Just weight it carefully no matter how safe what your taking is on paper.

It's the same for female models that use period delay medication or procedures. Anything you put in your body always has potential risks either straight away or long term. This also goes for toys.

 

[SaffronBurke]

How should I reply when people beg me or say "you are just doing this for the money". There are alot of ways I could respond to but am just wondering what the best response to that would be. Thanks alot guys

My go-to is: "Duh, EVERYBODY does their job for the money. Do YOU work for the fun of it? Didn't think so."

 

[cammingcouple]

How should I reply when people beg me or say "you are just doing this for the money". There are alot of ways I could respond to but am just wondering what the best response to that would be. Thanks alot guys

"Money doesn't get me hard "

Do consider you're taking medications FOR WORK. Make sure you have access to insurance or good medical service before you get to dependent on popping pills for work. Risking long term effects for a few extra bucks is extra risk/reward gamble. Just weight it carefully no matter how safe what your taking is on paper.

It's the same for female models that use period delay medication or procedures. Anything you put in your body always has potential risks either straight away or long term. This also goes for toys.

Probably should've added a few disclaimers in there. It's definitely not something to be taken lightly and certainly not to be taken unless you know what you're doing. Even then, only use minimum doses and only occasionally. DO NOT take it everytime!

That said, the general consensus is that the dependency issues with viagra are psychological in nature. It can cause anxiety of whether or not you'll be able to perform without it. This is why is crucial to only use it occasionally and definitely not every time you have sex. Viagra works by blocking an enzyme that will break down cGMP (which enhances blood flow to your dick and allows for an erection). Drugs with physical dependency problems tend to work on various receptors throughout the body. Eventually, those receptors build tolerance. Since viagra doesn't work like that, there's not as much risk for physical dependence. When viagra stops working, it's usually due to a worsening of the condition causing ED rather than tolerance.

Of course, there are other risks and side effects when taking it. Make sure you fully understand them before doing anything. Also, start low and slow. You don't want to end up with priapism either.

 

[Puffin]

"Money doesn't get me hard "

OMG, so funny! A genius suggestion given the OP's concern with getting and staying hard.

 

[SaffronBurke]

It's the same for female models that use period delay medication or procedures.

Oops, I got graphic about periods in the public section. Oh, well.

There is no "period delay medication". It's just a happy side effect of some birth control. For example, most people experience fewer or no periods while on Nexplanon. It's not bad - there's actually no medical reason why we need to have periods. And since birth control regulates our bodies to stay at one point of the monthly cycle (a point with minimal uterine lining present), we are not constantly building up uterine lining that requires shedding. Personally, I am currently on my second Nexplanon implant, and it will need replaced next year, so I have been on this method for five years now. I occasionally experience what is known as "breakthrough bleeding" or "spotting", and it's always very minimal, because there's not much there for my body to get rid of.

Some women forgo the sugar pill week of birth control pills and just start a new pack every three weeks. This is often done under the supervision of a doctor (so that enough packs are prescribed for the year), and is just as safe as me having my Nexplanon in my arm for the standard three years.

 

[AudriTwo]

It's the same for female models that use period delay medication or procedures. Anything you put in your body always has potential risks either straight away or long term. This also goes for toys.

you mean when ladies skip their placebo week. i don't think women should skip it since periods are also our self cleaning oven feature. but i do want to point out procedures to relieve heavy periods are necessary. i'm pretty sure you've never experienced your vagina basically hemorrhaging with giant clots during your 2.5 week period.
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/menorrhagia/symptoms-causes/syc-20352829

 

[Just_A_Guy]

How should I reply when people beg me or say "you are just doing this for the money".

I think you should just reply as if you were in any other business on Planet Earth.
"I don't work for free. Do you work for free?". My 2 cents

 

[PrincessAria]

How should I reply when people beg me or say "you are just doing this for the money". There are alot of ways I could respond to but am just wondering what the best response to that would be. Thanks alot guys

I'm fairly new but my response is, "Where do you work? So I can come to your job and ask for free shit." Lol

 

[MissJasmineUK]

How should I reply when people beg me or say "you are just doing this for the money". There are alot of ways I could respond to but am just wondering what the best response to that would be. Thanks alot guys

It is sad that people often say that. As others have said the response depends on you, and whatever you feel most comfortable saying is best. I usually stick to something like, "yes as a webcam model, I am currently entertaining you in return for your generosity. This is my job, after all..." or "I'm here to make a living, you know?" and hope that clears up any confusion the person asking has. If they continue to beg for you to do things for free then just make your life easier and ban them!

 

[LylacDoll]

i don't think women should skip it since periods are also our self cleaning oven feature.

What is going on in my uterus that would require it needing cleaned? It's not like we vomit monthly for the sake of routinely cleansing our stomachs. If you're on birth control, then the uterine lining isn't even being formed so there's nothing that should need to be "cleaned out." I haven't found any scientific evidence that having periods is a necessary thing, and have never heard of it having any cleaning benefits.

 

[Ms_Gingersnatch]

As far as the self cleaning oven question, I generally agree that it's not necessary if your long term birth control prevents your uterine lining from building up. Like, if you aren't going to eat a piece of fruit, you should definitely throw it out, but if you didn't buy any fruit in the first place, there's no need to fret over not cleaning out your fruit bowl.

What I'm curious about is when women just skip the sugar pills. Most of my friends who are on the pill say that they get their period very quickly when they start the sugar pills. I assume that the uterus doesn't go from zero to built up to shedding over the course of 24-48 hours once you start the sugar pills, right? So if you get your period that quickly, does that imply that women on the pill are building up the uterine lining while taking the medicated tabs? If so, does skipping the sugar pills mean that you have an "engorged" uterus, but have paused the cycle? If that's the case, could that be unhealthy? (@SaffronBurke, I feel like you might know about this?)

As far as potential health benefits from having a period, I once heard someone argue that a moderate amount of blood loss on a regular basis is a good way to reduce heavy metals and other toxins that your body is unable to filter out naturally. The reasoning was that some of these substances would come out with your blood, the body would produce new blood, and the percent of contaminants would be lower as a result. However, this was a person trying to convince people to donate blood, and one of his arguments was that women flush out contaminants via their period, but men and non-menstrual women would experience health benefits from blood donation. I mean, yes, you should donate blood, and his explanation seems logical, but I can't say it came from an unbiased source.

 

[THE MOLLIE MARIE]

What is going on in my uterus that would require it needing cleaned? It's not like we vomit monthly for the sake of routinely cleansing our stomachs. If you're on birth control, then the uterine lining isn't even being formed so there's nothing that should need to be "cleaned out." I haven't found any scientific evidence that having periods is a necessary thing, and have never heard of it having any cleaning benefits.

Hormonal birth control provides estrogen and progesterone, which keep the endometrium or uterine lining from thickening, giving the ovum less material to attach itself to. Birth control doesn't stop the process of endometrium creation, just makes it more challenging for implantation of a potentially fertilized ovum to occur, as the lining will not thicken or have the increased blood supply that creates an inviting place for the ovum to implant and grow. The depleted lining still exists in the body, as evidenced when a person experiences "spotting" or "breakthrough bleeding" even while skipping placebo pills and continuing on to a new cycle of active pills.

If it doesn't seem to be causing you trouble, that's great! But that may not be everyone's experience, as some bodies will produce differently than others.

 

[Gen]

Hormonal birth control provides estrogen and progesterone, which keep the endometrium or uterine lining from thickening, giving the ovum less material to attach itself to. Birth control doesn't stop the process of endometrium creation, just makes it more challenging for implantation of a potentially fertilized ovum to occur, as the lining will not thicken or have the increased blood supply that creates an inviting place for the ovum to implant and grow. The depleted lining still exists in the body, as evidenced when a person experiences "spotting" or "breakthrough bleeding" even while skipping placebo pills and continuing on to a new cycle of active pills.

If it doesn't seem to be causing you trouble, that's great! But that may not be everyone's experience, as some bodies will produce differently than others.

This is what my doctor told me about going on the pill to essentially force a period, if you have PCOS and wouldn’t otherwise menstruate. She (and a specialist) were concerned about uterine lining building up, which is apparently unhealthy? Idk. But that’s what she told me.

 

[AudriTwo]

What is going on in my uterus that would require it needing cleaned? It's not like we vomit monthly for the sake of routinely cleansing our stomachs. If you're on birth control, then the uterine lining isn't even being formed so there's nothing that should need to be "cleaned out." I haven't found any scientific evidence that having periods is a necessary thing, and have never heard of it having any cleaning benefits.

No your periods help maintain your pH level. Ever had a nasty yeast infection that goes away from your period? That's what I mean by self-cleaning. I didn't mean literally.

https://www.cigna.com/healthwellness/hw/medical-topics/vaginal-yeast-infections-hw61044

 

[PrincessAria]

No your periods help maintain your pH level. Ever had a nasty yeast infection that goes away from your period? That's what I mean by self-cleaning. I didn't mean literally.

https://www.cigna.com/healthwellness/hw/medical-topics/vaginal-yeast-infections-hw61044

My face breaks out soooo bad when I skip my sugar pills so I've stopped trying to do that lol

 

[AudriTwo]

No your periods help maintain your pH level. Ever had a nasty yeast infection that goes away from your period? That's what I mean by self-cleaning. I didn't mean literally.

https://www.cigna.com/healthwellness/hw/medical-topics/vaginal-yeast-infections-hw61044

omg i linked the wrong thing.
http://beatcandida.com/will-yeast-infection-go-away-with-period/

 

[Ms_Gingersnatch]

omg i linked the wrong thing.
http://beatcandida.com/will-yeast-infection-go-away-with-period/

Oh thank god. I was seriously puzzled. Blood is about 7.4, and a healthy vag is about 4 (if not a bit lower), so in theory, blood should not be doing us any favors. On the other hand, if the pH gets too low, bacteria can't survive, so I was wondering if it was possible for a pussy to get too acidic and kill off it's own bacteria (apparently so!). Also, the good bacteria in there produce hydrogen peroxide,* which is what keeps the candida in check, but I don't know the pH of hydrogen peroxide off the top of my head, so I was trying to muse about that. It all makes much more sense after reading that link.

*DO NOT put hydrogen peroxide in your twat if you are having yeast issues. You will really regret it.

 

[SaffronBurke]

What I'm curious about is when women just skip the sugar pills. Most of my friends who are on the pill say that they get their period very quickly when they start the sugar pills. I assume that the uterus doesn't go from zero to built up to shedding over the course of 24-48 hours once you start the sugar pills, right? So if you get your period that quickly, does that imply that women on the pill are building up the uterine lining while taking the medicated tabs? If so, does skipping the sugar pills mean that you have an "engorged" uterus, but have paused the cycle? If that's the case, could that be unhealthy? (@SaffronBurke, I feel like you might know about this?)

Some birth control pills are a steady dose all three weaks, while others offer a varying dose of hormones from week to week, to somewhat mimic the natural cycle but still prevent pregnancy. The first kind will cause less lining to build up. When I was on the patch, it was similar to that - I had the same dose of hormones in each weekly patch, and when I took the last one off, I would start bleeding in about two days. I had a super light period on it, I couldn't even wear a tampon because there wasn't enough flow and it would be uncomfortable to insert and remove. The period would last about three or four days, often ending on its own before I started the next box of patches, so I wasn't too worried about skipping my barely-period when it would be inconvenient to have. With a varied dosage, there's probably more build-up, but I only have experience with the patch and the implant.

No your periods help maintain your pH level. Ever had a nasty yeast infection that goes away from your period? That's what I mean by self-cleaning. I didn't mean literally.

https://www.cigna.com/healthwellness/hw/medical-topics/vaginal-yeast-infections-hw61044

I was the opposite in high school, I would get a yeast infection after my period. My body is ridiculous.

 

[LylacDoll]

No your periods help maintain your pH level. Ever had a nasty yeast infection that goes away from your period? That's what I mean by self-cleaning. I didn't mean literally.

https://www.cigna.com/healthwellness/hw/medical-topics/vaginal-yeast-infections-hw61044

Huh, interesting stuff. Good to know.

 

[westkanye]

Ugh not gona eat pussy till I die now :/