BongaCams, new webcam site launching soon

[IsabellaSnow]

Sorry about that Jenn, shame you hadn't been able to read this first. I'm so glad nothing like that happened to me when I started camming, when I first went on mfcs I totally didn't believe I could have just earned that much! lol

Oh and guys! When I joined Mfc my first payment was through paypal, they used to use it! they stopped I think the second or 3rd time I got paid.

That site thing seems like such a scam, and yeah, they did make it sound like each model in the top 30 would get $3250.

I don't really understand why if people are going to go to the effort of setting up a camsite, why scam people? I mean they're getting 40/50% of earnings anyway! The more models who sign up and give you a better reputation, the more money you'd get! You shouldn't need to steal the money model's worked hard for as she might get her friend to sign up, and then you get her 50% too!

Maybe one day we should all set up a camsite!

 

[mynameisbob84]

My advice would be to stop camming on 'Bonga' now - like, this very second (if you haven't already) and just sign up to one of the many reputable cam sites (MFC, Chaturbate, Streamate etc.)

 

[ComicOzzie]

Hello Girls,

We have a new website that is launching on 27th of February. Registration for models and studios is open.

Your website launches in 6 months and you want models to register now? WTF?

 

[MrRodry]

Hello Girls,

We have a new website that is launching on 27th of February. Registration for models and studios is open.

Your website launches in 6 months and you want models to register now? WTF?

This message was posted on Feb 21 of this year Ozzie. Relax and go feed those raging koalas! :lol:

Jenn, I hope you see the color of this money.

 

[Jenn]

Thanks everyone, it's sad to say that no one has been answering my inquiries on SKYPE up to now. We did stop camming on the site the 2nd time they didn't pay us.... Unfortunately, whether it's $400 or higher, the fact that the girls worked their asses off trying to make ends meet. They didn't get squat.

It's also unfortunate that MFC banned the Philippines from camming because of the other models and studios not following the simple rules set by the site. We as other models who follow the rules suffer. Indeed MFC was the best site ever created for models. But as their new policy declares, they no longer accept Philippines.

A friend of mine offered that he can send a DDOS (distributed denial of service) to Bonga site which will render them useless. His offer sounds very attractive but I'll be stooping down to their level. I'm sure karma will catch up to them. I don't understand either, I'm sure this site make lots of money and yet they manage to slip stupidity because of greed.

 

[Jenn]

Thanks everyone, it's sad to say that no one has been answering my inquiries on SKYPE up to now. We did stop camming on the site the 2nd time they didn't pay us.... Unfortunately, whether it's $400 or higher, the fact that the girls worked their asses off trying to make ends meet. They didn't get squat.

It's also unfortunate that MFC banned the Philippines from camming because of the other models and studios not following the simple rules set by the site. We as other models who follow the rules suffer. Indeed MFC was the best site ever created for models. But as their new policy declares, they no longer accept Philippines.

A friend of mine offered that he can send a DDOS (distributed denial of service) to Bonga site which will render them useless. His offer sounds very attractive but I'll be stooping down to their level. I'm sure karma will catch up to them. I don't understand either, I'm sure this site make lots of money and yet they manage to slip stupidity because of greed.

UPDATE:

We finally got paid wohooo!! They finally paid after I threatened them that I will report their actions to the camming community forums. One he saw that in bold letters, he asked for my name again and 2 hours later, the funds were in my account! Thanks!

 

[IsabellaSnow]

Thanks everyone, it's sad to say that no one has been answering my inquiries on SKYPE up to now. We did stop camming on the site the 2nd time they didn't pay us.... Unfortunately, whether it's $400 or higher, the fact that the girls worked their asses off trying to make ends meet. They didn't get squat.

It's also unfortunate that MFC banned the Philippines from camming because of the other models and studios not following the simple rules set by the site. We as other models who follow the rules suffer. Indeed MFC was the best site ever created for models. But as their new policy declares, they no longer accept Philippines.

A friend of mine offered that he can send a DDOS (distributed denial of service) to Bonga site which will render them useless. His offer sounds very attractive but I'll be stooping down to their level. I'm sure karma will catch up to them. I don't understand either, I'm sure this site make lots of money and yet they manage to slip stupidity because of greed.

UPDATE:

We finally got paid wohooo!! They finally paid after I threatened them that I will report their actions to the camming community forums. One he saw that in bold letters, he asked for my name again and 2 hours later, the funds were in my account! Thanks!

Typical! So glad you finally got paid! honestly I still think they should be shut down, they're scamming people, and only paid up after being threatened, I doubt this'll be any different with other girls on the site.

That's so random not letting people in the Philippines cam on mfcs!

 

[AllisonWilder]

That's so random not letting people in the Philippines cam on mfcs!

Pornography is illegal in the Philippines.

 

[Jenn]

That's so random not letting people in the Philippines cam on mfcs!

Pornography is illegal in the Philippines.

If pornography is illegal in the Philippines...

The government would have blocked all porn/adult related materials on the internet.
Video stores wouldn't be selling porn films.
There won't be strippers in night clubs.
There won't be prostitution in tourist areas.
Producers won't be making pornographic films in the country.

Catholic church are the ones enforcing illegal porn in the Philippines. They've always meddled in politics and they always will. They are currently fighting a bill that won't allow the use of contraceptives because it's suppose to take away the opportunity for a baby to be born. The fact that a lot of low income citizens in this country do nothing but screw like rabbits when it's raining or whatever, a baby is born and they can't feed them. I wouldn't have a problem with what they are fighting for IF they are willing to feed the children. But all they do is collect money in the church send em to Vatican and impose rules in the country.

It's ironic, most sex scandals involved in this country are priests. Whether it's multiple sex partners, molestations, rape etc etc. I've also seen priests who smoke, drink, curse worse than my neighbor and gamble in casinos.

The reason why MFC banned Philippines is because of studios who keep changing models with the same name and ID. Some use fake/photoshopped documents. Some use minors, or they let a man in the show, they are caught sleeping, poo/pee which is against the rules. There have been several notices from the site, but they (models/studios) keep doing it. I guess they got tired and completely shut out the country.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

The catholic church can be extremely corrupt, same with many religions, there was a story several years ago when an irish girl in her early teens was raped and impregnated by a priest, her mother tried getting her an abortion and the church wouldn't let her, so they tried travelling to england to get one, the church tried forcing her not to leave the country, eventually she did and got her abortion, but how horrible!

Sadly religion is often a way for bad people to abuse control, gain power and make others feel bad about themselves, and to do it whilst still posing as a virtuous person. No one wants to believe they're a bad person, and everyone is the hero of their own story, it takes a lot of guts to accept you're wrong about something, and guts these people don't have, so being a part of the church/being overly religious means they have an easy way to justify doing bad things.

Not all religious people are like this though, it's just those who want to abuse it have the loudest voices, because well, they're abusing it! Many truly are decent people who want to help their lives and devote it to faith. The bible has too many different opinions, so a kind person will read all the parts about morals, helping others etc, and a nasty person will read bits about women being evil etc. Because they're both from the same book, they are put together. (I am not remotely religious btw)

 

[mynameisbob84]

I shan't go into detail about my thoughts on the Catholic Church for fear of offending anyone but suffice it to say I'm not a fan (of the Church that is - I got no beef with Catholics in general).

 

[UncleThursday]

The reason why MFC banned Philippines is because of studios who keep changing models with the same name and ID. Some use fake/photoshopped documents. Some use minors, or they let a man in the show, they are caught sleeping, poo/pee which is against the rules. There have been several notices from the site, but they (models/studios) keep doing it. I guess they got tired and completely shut out the country.

If I remember right, the straw that finally broke the camel's back, as it were, was supposedly one of the studios from the Philippines had an obviously under age girl (from what I heard, she looked no more than 13-15) who got tokens to defecate on cam. Which she promptly did after the tokens were thrown at her. And, sadly, it probably wasn't even a lot of tokens.

This may be just a rumor, but I know a lot of the Philippine models had very nasty/bad reputations on MFC. A lot of members, myself included, were also prone to just hiding all of the Philippine models because of unwanted PM spam that hit us, with the majority coming from those models. While the unwanted PMs haven't completely stopped, their frequency has dropped more than considerably since the removal of the Philippines from MFC. I'm not saying Jenn's girls ever did that, but it definitely left a bad taste in members' mouths for Philippine models. The bad models/studios ruined it for the good models/studios in that country.

 

[Jenn]

The catholic church can be extremely corrupt, same with many religions, there was a story several years ago when an irish girl in her early teens was raped and impregnated by a priest, her mother tried getting her an abortion and the church wouldn't let her, so they tried travelling to england to get one, the church tried forcing her not to leave the country, eventually she did and got her abortion, but how horrible!

Sadly religion is often a way for bad people to abuse control, gain power and make others feel bad about themselves, and to do it whilst still posing as a virtuous person. No one wants to believe they're a bad person, and everyone is the hero of their own story, it takes a lot of guts to accept you're wrong about something, and guts these people don't have, so being a part of the church/being overly religious means they have an easy way to justify doing bad things.

Not all religious people are like this though, it's just those who want to abuse it have the loudest voices, because well, they're abusing it! Many truly are decent people who want to help their lives and devote it to faith. The bible has too many different opinions, so a kind person will read all the parts about morals, helping others etc, and a nasty person will read bits about women being evil etc. Because they're both from the same book, they are put together. (I am not remotely religious btw)

Well said Isabella.. That's exactly what is happening here. I remember way back, the church succeeded in stopping Stanley Ho a Casino magnate into building casinos along Manila bay. This would've created thousands of jobs for the people. But Stanley Ho didn't believe in giving to the church, his agreement was with the government. So the church prevented the progress because gambling is immoral. In turn Stanley Ho built the casinos in Macau. Now our people go to Macau so they can find jobs there. They are against gambling yet it's ok for them to have PCSO a government run sweepstakes/lottery. The church is quiet because they receive some of the proceeds from the sales. You are right, not all of them are like this, but it would be nice if they clean their own backyard first before they jump into someone else's. I'm believe in my religion (Catholic) but I don't believe in the people running it.

 

[ComicOzzie]

Hello Girls,

We have a new website that is launching on 27th of February. Registration for models and studios is open.

Your website launches in 6 months and you want models to register now? WTF?

This message was posted on Feb 21 of this year Ozzie. Relax and go feed those raging koalas! :lol:

Jenn, I hope you see the color of this money.

DOH! Fooled yet again by a zombie thread.

 

[Jenn]

The reason why MFC banned Philippines is because of studios who keep changing models with the same name and ID. Some use fake/photoshopped documents. Some use minors, or they let a man in the show, they are caught sleeping, poo/pee which is against the rules. There have been several notices from the site, but they (models/studios) keep doing it. I guess they got tired and completely shut out the country.

If I remember right, the straw that finally broke the camel's back, as it were, was supposedly one of the studios from the Philippines had an obviously under age girl (from what I heard, she looked no more than 13-15) who got tokens to defecate on cam. Which she promptly did after the tokens were thrown at her. And, sadly, it probably wasn't even a lot of tokens.

This may be just a rumor, but I know a lot of the Philippine models had very nasty/bad reputations on MFC. A lot of members, myself included, were also prone to just hiding all of the Philippine models because of unwanted PM spam that hit us, with the majority coming from those models. While the unwanted PMs haven't completely stopped, their frequency has dropped more than considerably since the removal of the Philippines from MFC. I'm not saying Jenn's girls ever did that, but it definitely left a bad taste in members' mouths for Philippine models. The bad models/studios ruined it for the good models/studios in that country.

I agree Uncle, I know some studios who tolerate it, even encourage it. Though I didn't realize I was creating enemies along the way when I tried to prevent it. Now everyone good or bad are all stuck in the same boat. I do know that individual models from Philippines still work at MFC. It's the studios that were shut down.

 

[Evvie]

I heard that one of the reasons the Asian webpage was dropped was because many models were working non-consensually. But I suppose it's a moot point, enough was going on anyway.

 

[UncleThursday]

I heard that one of the reasons the Asian webpage was dropped was because many models were working non-consensually. But I suppose it's a moot point, enough was going on anyway.

This is something that is somewhat talked about for some areas of the world, not just East Asia. Any area known for high levels of (potentially underage) prostitution and human trafficking get this stigma thrown at them for their cam models. Some areas of Eastern Europe, certain Asian countries, Africa, etc.

There's always the thought, when you see a particularly poor looking girl, in a crappy looking room that seems to be divided by sheets from other girls, that they aren't on cam because they want to be; but that they're being forced to do it because they are already prostitutes/basically sex slaves (trafficked girls). The thought crossed my mind on a few cams I saw from different parts of the world. Especially if it was obvious the model wasn't the one typing.

But, not every girl in a studio in these parts of the world is there not of her own free will. But, there are definitely times it can appear that way, and might even really be that way.

 

[nzhere]

This may be just a rumor, but I know a lot of the Philippine models had very nasty/bad reputations on MFC. A lot of members, myself included, were also prone to just hiding all of the Philippine models because of unwanted PM spam that hit us, with the majority coming from those models. While the unwanted PMs haven't completely stopped, their frequency has dropped more than considerably since the removal of the Philippines from MFC. I'm not saying Jenn's girls ever did that, but it definitely left a bad taste in members' mouths for Philippine models. The bad models/studios ruined it for the good models/studios in that country.

This thread is getting kind of sidetracked.

I know several Philippines models working on Bongacams, they have not had any problem receiving payment from Bongacams.

As for MFC and Philippines models issues. Some of the issues were MFC not taking action sooner and monitoring more on what went on in the Asian section. Hundreds of accounts with wrong i.ds on file. Where the studio had swapped the model and didnt bother to update the submitted i.d

I asked one why they didn't update it and they said "MFC didn't ask us to"...

The studios were well aware of the flaws and took full advantage of them. Putting underaged on them etc.

November 1st was the day that those who were not on the homepage got removed. But Leo started the cleanup many months before that, the Asian section had gone from 500 girls online in peak time to around 150.

I think there are about 250 Philippines models left with active active accounts. In peak time there is only 30 or 40 of them online now.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

I think it's gone down an interesting route, at least more interesting than the old advertisement of 'bongacams'.

Mfcs is definitely more relaxed about ID's than I would have expected. When I signed up I took a photo of my ID with photobooth, you can only just see the date, but it was visible. I just wonder how hard it would have been for some clever photoshopping to change the dates. In fact even with a decent quality ID, if you're any good at photoshop you might be able to pull it off. If I'd discovered this at the age of 16/17 or even 15 I think I might have tried it, I looked old for my age, not much different then to how I do now so I doubt anyone would have been able to tell. It does make you think, doesn't have to be a '3rd world' country to sneak in underage girls.

The whole sex slaves/sex trafficking is horrible. Poor girls. What's almost worse is the amount of men who will watch/wank over these girls when it's fairly clear they don't want to be there/aren't there by choice. That and the men who will go abroad and take advantage of these 'facilities'. I mean yeah ok, the majority of girls don't grow up dreaming they'll either be a prostitute or a cam girl, it's circumstances that tend to lead us down this road, but there's a difference between being forced to do it and finding our own way here.

 

[Jenn]

Most of us in this studio are undergrad. We all used to have regular jobs (sales associate, call center rep, office clerks). But with what we were earning it wasn't enough to support ourselves let alone our families. Making about 5 dollars per day (yes $5 per day not hour), just doesn't cut it for us. An example of a famous restaurant in US, the prices on their menu is exactly the same as here. But the salary of their employees are way below the standard compare to US. Department of labor is very lenient in favor of companies and foreign investors. They are raking it in big time because of low wages to their employees. I have a guest who's making about $20k per year doing call center job. Here it's about $4k and that's being generous. Fast food chains in the US are also here, but the wages are way below what you have there. There are no jobs that have the same income there except camming. Our doctors change their careers and go back to schools to become nurses just so that they can get work abroad. Lots of talented college graduates and no jobs. Our government is very corrupt, instead of helping its citizen, they're helping themselves. BTW we use our passports as IDs which is suppose to be very hard to photoshop.

 

[Jenn]

I know several Philippines models working on Bongacams, they have not had any problem receiving payment from Bongacams.

They may have started when Bonga was new. We started August and waited 3 pay periods before we got paid.
According to widestat their daily revenue is about $550 per day compare to MFC which is about $8500 per day (no surprise there why it's easy to drop Philippines... less headaches).

 

[nzhere]

[/quote]


They may have started when Bonga was new. We started August and waited 3 pay periods before we got paid.
According to widestat their daily revenue is about $550 per day compare to MFC which is about $8500 per day (no surprise there why it's easy to drop Philippines... less headaches).[/quote]


No, they also started in August.

Maybe you were just unlucky?

But I've noticed that site is stalled they are stuck @ around 25-40 models online, they don't seem to be getting very much traffic or attracting many models. The tokens are expensive tokens priced in euro and the rooms full of beggars.

 

[LilyMarie]

Why, whyyy am I reminded of Bunga Bunga parties everytime I see this thread on the board....

 

[Hony]

Just to put my $0.02 in here about my experience with bongacams, they owed me some money, I had to ask a few times, finally they paid. Maybe I was impatient. I'll wait to see whether the next scheduled payment goes through smoothly or late before I make my mind up. A lot of new sites are just disorganized.

Like the say: "Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence".

 

[Jupiter551]

If I remember right, the straw that finally broke the camel's back, as it were, was supposedly one of the studios from the Philippines had an obviously under age girl (from what I heard, she looked no more than 13-15) who got tokens to defecate on cam. Which she promptly did after the tokens were thrown at her. And, sadly, it probably wasn't even a lot of tokens.

I doubt the tokens would even be enough to buy a new cam after the first one got defecated upon :?

 

[bonga]

Hello,

I would like to clarify this situation. We have sent you a payoneer link to associate your account with us on August 13, but you have replied that the link does not work. Then we have sent you another one. Account was associated only on August 27, we have paid on the 31th of August (we always pay on friday). Support has kindly told you that all payments will occur after you will associate your payoneer account with us. So we have not tricked anyone. Do not jump to conclusions before you get all information.

 

[Nissim-Payoneer]

Also feel free to contact me (via PM or e-mail), and I will be more than happy to check the status of the Payoneer account to make sure that it's linked to your account with BongaCams.

 

[cosima]

have you guys continued to cam there? have the payment issues subsided?

 

[cosima]

If I remember right, the straw that finally broke the camel's back, as it were, was supposedly one of the studios from the Philippines had an obviously under age girl (from what I heard, she looked no more than 13-15) who got tokens to defecate on cam. Which she promptly did after the tokens were thrown at her. And, sadly, it probably wasn't even a lot of tokens.

I doubt the tokens would even be enough to buy a new cam after the first one got defecated upon :?

that is horrible. was this on bongacams?!