Blast from the past... ( Are Romanian Cam Models Trustworthy )

[RomanianScamModels]

Feel free to stop posting in a cam model positive forum. Be gone troll.

Take a deep breath...

Site is called

AmberCutie's Forum
An adult community for cam models and members to discuss all the things!

See the word ALL? That means Amber understands the reality of the camming business isn't always rainbows and unicorns. There are in fact a lot of bad issues circling the industry, which I just so happened to have touched on in my original post. If anything, you lashed out at me with accusations and then insults. I won't call you a troll, but I certainly won't let someone create a case of unwarranted defamation of character simply because it doesn't jive with your view of the camming industry.

 

[RomanianScamModels]

I’m not angry, but I do find you annoying and predatory. You came here to bitch about Romanian models being scammers, even though you are obviously preying upon them. You go on a site and become a patron of models who you admit are in less than desirable situations with their studios and find ways to meet up with them, knowing they more than likely will not turn you down because you’re an American man with money. Asking someone “hey, you know someone who would benefit from dating me” just sounds like a *nudge nudge, hint hint* way of getting around a site’s rules of no meet ups.

This is a problem because it is literally illegal as long as the site allows American models, because of FOSTA/SESTA. Cam sites are not for meet ups. If you’re having that many issues meeting people in real life and have to resort to exploiting foreign models that’s sounds an awful lot like a you problem. It’s awfully entitled and selfish to risk a site getting shut down or having an entire country of model’s get banned from a site (which is what sites like adultwork, I believe, did so that they could keep up their escort listings) just so you can get your dick wet.

You came here to “warn” members about Romanian models love scamming people and I responded with how it’s quite simple to not get love scammed and they aren’t forcing anyone to do anything and that members should not treat cam sites as dating sites.

Since you brought up MGTOW, maybe you should go your own way... right off the internet. Or at least from this forum.

Again, you accuse me of stuff that never happened and ramble on with several straw man arguments in attempt to make me look guilty of some horrendous crime. For instance, let's say I met a model in less than desirable circumstances and she was actually interested in getting to know me and after we met decided to start a relationship. Do you think that would be worse for her or do you think she'd be better off working at a cam studio constantly being threatened by management? Sure, I'm a predator looking for a serious relationship. You make it sound like women are stupid. If you want my opinion, I would disagree with that statement. In fact, Romanian women are quite intelligent and self preserving. Trust me when I say they know better than to get involved with some simpleton nobody.

 

[Danigirl]

It must be exhausting to be you. No wonder you can't meet girls other than ones in horrible situations. No one with options could stand you. I pity you.

 

[Finchomatic]

Since you brought up MGTOW, maybe you should go your own way... right off the internet. Or at least from this forum.

No no, you are correct... Right off the internet.

 

[AudriTwo]

If you get a back tattoo with their name I'm 1000% positive the next Romanian cammodel will love you

 

[Mila_]

I think your OP was quite vague. You never explained why you traveled to Romania for such a long time, how you feel they tried to scam you or how you got to the conclusions you got. Now don’t get me wrong, I think EE studio models (not only Romanian) have the highest percentage of scams all around, but if you are going to talk this way about this subject at least give us a little idea of why you feel the way you do. The fact you didn’t explain is why people in the thread filled those gaps with their imagination, you can’t blame them, we don’t know you

 

[RomanianScamModels]

It must be exhausting to be you. No wonder you can't meet girls other than ones in horrible situations. No one with options could stand you. I pity you.

Actually, the model I dated for 18 months contacted me via a PM. She approached me with the idea of meeting. She wasn't working at a studio. She was just in a shitty marriage. He was a drunk and abusive and not that it matters, but he also had dealings with terrorists, hence my immediate interest as my job is counter-terrorism. Anyhow, most of the models I did meet from cam sites were only friendly. The 2 women I lived with in Bucharest for 3 months, let me sleep on the couch while they slept in the bed. I knew them for 6 years before I visited them. I paid their rent, utilities and food. They cooked meals and showed me around Bucharest and surrounding cities. I know, I'm a terrible man. Since I still support both of them financially simply because they were honest with me after spending some time together. Neither of them cam anymore. It's easy to judge a book by it's cover, so I don't blame you. I know who I am as a person. I was raised in a very strict Christian environment. I love everyone until they give me a reason not to. I also highly respect women and believe they deserve a better life than what they were handed. I guess you can fault me for caring in exchange for possibly creating something beautiful. Maybe it sounds like a reality TV show, so I understand where you're coming from, but I'm not the bad guy.

 

[RomanianScamModels]

I think your OP was quite vague. You never explained why you traveled to Romania for such a long time, how you feel they tried to scam you or how you got to the conclusions you got. Now don’t get me wrong, I think EE studio models (not only Romanian) have the highest percentage of scams all around, but if you are going to talk this way about this subject at least give us a little idea of why you feel the way you do. The fact you didn’t explain is why people in the thread filled those gaps with their imagination, you can’t blame them, we don’t know you

I agree, I probably approached this with some bias. I simply don't understand the whole love scam. Yes, I was approached every time in this manner, but I never fell prey. I simply worked my way around the scam or moved on. In the end, I'm not 100% sure it's the models, so perhaps it is wrong for me to accuse them directly. I have visited one Studio 20 site in the past and the models I've met from there were truly mistreated. I guess what I would like to see happen is not something I have any control over. Perhaps InterPol would have jurisdiction, but since it's basically common knowledge that LiveJasmin is run by the mafia for laundering money, who knows. I have connections, but I guess since the mafia exists pretty much everywhere, corrupt governments turn a blind eye. Got to love how deep politician pockets are.

 

[RomanianScamModels]

If you get a back tattoo with their name I'm 1000% positive the next Romanian cammodel will love you

That is hilarious as one of the recent models I was conversing with actually asked me if I would be willing to get matching tattoos. So I guess this isn't some urban legend than? Crazy.

 

[Marceline]

>" LiveJasmin is one such site that is notorious for this. In fact, it's well known LiveJasmin is a mafia run organization that even coerces models into having sexual relations with management or they get fired. At least in Romania and specifically models who work for Studio 20 "
>Complains about how Romanian models are "truly just that disgusting to lie to people"
>Still goes on LiveJasmin to find a serious relationship with Romanian models/women

That is exploitation, dude. It's predatory behavior. Finding someone who is in a desperate situation and using that to your advantage so you can get what you want. I did not say these models were stupid. No one did. If someone is in a desperate situation they are going to do what they can to survive, even if that includes pretending to like some self righteous dude that just wants to have a hot Romanian girlfriend who will pay for them to live a comfortable life.

 

[RomanianScamModels]

>" LiveJasmin is one such site that is notorious for this. In fact, it's well known LiveJasmin is a mafia run organization that even coerces models into having sexual relations with management or they get fired. At least in Romania and specifically models who work for Studio 20 "
>Complains about how Romanian models are "truly just that disgusting to lie to people"
>Still goes on LiveJasmin to find a serious relationship with Romanian models/women

That is exploitation, dude. It's predatory behavior. Finding someone who is in a desperate situation and using that to your advantage so you can get what you want. I did not say these models were stupid. No one did. If someone is in a desperate situation they are going to do what they can to survive, even if that includes pretending to like some self righteous dude that just wants to have a hot Romanian girlfriend who will pay for them to live a comfortable life.

Yep, you got it all figured out. I'd be better off meeting a random woman on the street. Oh wait, I've done that too. Don't worry my dear, this isn't a business operation. I just find camming sites to be far less predatory towards members than dating sites. I guess the fact I can actually talk to a real person instead of some Nigerian Prince catfishing, I guess me looking out for myself is now a crime. I've never hurt anyone I've met. I don't consider what I've done as taking advantage of someone. Sure, I offered a better option, but you probably shouldn't throw the book at me, unless I am actually taking advantage of the situation.

 

[AudriTwo]

Yep, you got it all figured out. I'd be better off meeting a random woman on the street. Oh wait, I've done that too. Don't worry my dear, this isn't a business operation. I just find camming sites to be far less predatory towards members than dating sites. I guess the fact I can actually talk to a real person instead of some Nigerian Prince catfishing, I guess me looking out for myself is now a crime. I've never hurt anyone I've met. I don't consider what I've done as taking advantage of someone. Sure, I offered a better option, but you probably shouldn't throw the book at me, unless I am actually taking advantage of the situation.

have you ever considered the reason why you cant meet a woman irl is because of you? maybe seek therapy or a life coach.

 

[RomanianScamModels]

have you ever considered the reason why you cant meet a woman irl is because of you? maybe seek therapy or a life coach.

What gave you the idea that I have trouble meeting women? I don't live in Romania. So what are my choices for meeting Romanian women before I visit the country? Dating site? Please tell me you don't actually believe dating sites function as intended. I gave Plenty of Fish a go for several years in my 30's and oh man was that a catastrophe. Also, I don't do tinder. I'm not about one night stands. I only do serious relationships, which if you're from America, you'd probably understand just how ridiculous a majority of American women can be. All hail feminism! Nah, Romanian women have it going on. They believe in marriage, family and traditional values. The fact I meet cam models isn't the problem is it? Probably not. At least I hope not. Cam models are people too, not that it matters. I've also met Romanian women who are not cam models. I don't sleep with them, but I'm sure that's exactly what you assumed. That seems to be the consensus here. Of all the Romanian women I've met, I had intimate relationships with only 2. The fact the 12 cam models I met were all liars and manipulative in the beginning, is why I posted this thread. I guess what you refer to as love scams, is a problem there. Wouldn't it be in the best interest of the camming industry as a whole for this knowledge to be available to members who might be in that particular situation as we speak? Man, imagine saving someone from having their wallet drained. That does sounds like a really bad thing to write about.

 

[Marceline]

I don't consider what I've done as taking advantage of someone

I'm sure you don't. And that's the problem.

Anyway, refer to Audri's last post. I'm sure your totally real counter-terrorism job has a decent enough health insurance plan so you can get yourself a good therapist.

 

[RomanianScamModels]

I'm sure you don't. And that's the problem.

Anyway, refer to Audri's last post. I'm sure your totally real counter-terrorism job has a decent enough health insurance plan so you can get yourself a good therapist.

I'm retired, but yeah, I have a great health plan. I actually served in the Air Force, Active Army and yes, I did do counter-terrorism and yes, I had top secret security clearance. Props to me for having a higher than average IQ, ambitious to the core and one squeaky clean criminal record. Sorry, don't mean to flex, it's rude.

 

[AudriTwo]

I only do serious relationships, which if you're from America, you'd probably understand just how ridiculous a majority of American women can be. All hail feminism! Nah, Romanian women have it going on. They believe in marriage, family and traditional values.

there are plenty of american women who have traditional values of wanting to be married and family. fuck i would love to be able to retire from work and focus on being a fulltime mom. our economy though doesn't really support one financial supporter household unless one member is making $100k a year. The average household is less than $60k and that is with dual incomes. children are expensive. i just googled it, an average of $233,610 spent to raise one child.

i have a cousin who married a woman from an EE country. she is 100% career driven. she thinks its a gross stereotype that EE women want a "traditional" life.

but if it's tradional values you want..

 

[Marceline]

I'm retired, but yeah, I have a great health plan. I actually served in the Air Force, Active Army and yes, I did do counter-terrorism and yes, I had top secret security clearance. Props to me for having a higher than average IQ, ambitious to the core and one squeaky clean criminal record. Sorry, don't mean to flex, it's rude.

Mhmmm. I'm sure. And that one time you visited Studio 20 you Liam Neeson-ed your way through there, taking out all the bad studio managers until you got to the final boss manager who you took out with one roundhouse kick to the face. You had saved all the Romanian cam models, despite them being "disgusting" liars, and as a reward for your courageous, ultra manly man, actions they offered to be a part of your Romanian cam model harem. And when you walked outside you got into your waiting fighter jet and took off while all the cam models and Romanian citizens looked up at you in awe.

And then everyone clapped.

 

[cbhours]

 

[Finchomatic]

And then everyone clapped.

Some people want to live in their imaginations.

 

[RomanianScamModels]

there are plenty of american women who have traditional values of wanting to be married and family. fuck i would love to be able to retire from work and focus on being a fulltime mom. our economy though doesn't really support one financial supporter household unless one member is making $100k a year. The average household is less than $60k and that is with dual incomes. children are expensive. i just googled it, an average of $233,610 spent to raise one child.

i have a cousin who married a woman from an EE country. she is 100% career driven. she thinks its a gross stereotype that EE women want a "traditional" life.

but if it's tradional values you want..

You're going to love this. I did find an American woman with traditional values. She even came with a prepackaged family. Wow, you mean to tell me I married a woman with children? Wait, it gets better. The father was a deadbeat and in exchange for not having to pay child support anymore, I was given the opportunity to adopt the children. My great and wonderful deed ended up biting me in the ass, because low and behold, divorce in America loves women. She basically got an upgrade in financial support because I'm the asshole right? All these aggressive comments are hilarious but anyways, at least the kids are enjoying a better life.

Yes, EE women are career driven, I stated this in an earlier reply. I believe I said Romanian women were actually seeking independence long before it became a thing in America. However, the majority of Romanian women do in fact adhere to traditional values as well. American women gave a lot of that up during this feminism charade. Don't get me wrong, I totally want women to be and do whatever their heart desires. I just feel feminism lost their way in the process and I consider current feminists a joke.

 

[AlexaCrush]

I only do serious relationships, which if you're from America, you'd probably understand just how ridiculous a majority of American women can be. All hail feminism! Nah, Romanian women have it going on. They believe in marriage, family and traditional values.

Have you stopped to wonder why American women don't seem to believe in the same values you have?
I get the impression when you say "traditional values" you mean "a woman who is subservient to her husband and won't call him out on his bullshit". You keep humble bragging about your fancy pants government job and how you give all this money away and all this as if we should be impressed. You sound pretentious as fuck.
The fetish you have about how Romanian women are all so traditional borders on creepy. It's like listening to the guys who fantasize about an Asian wife because they believe they'll be their subordinate little dolls.

 

[Marceline]

Some people want to live in their imaginations.

r/thathappened

 

[RomanianScamModels]

Mhmmm. I'm sure. And that one time you visited Studio 20 you Liam Neeson-ed your way through there, taking out all the bad studio managers until you got to the final boss manager who you took out with one roundhouse kick to the face. You had saved all the Romanian cam models, despite them being "disgusting" liars, and as a reward for your courageous, ultra manly man, actions they offered to be a part of your Romanian cam model harem. And when you walked outside you got into your waiting fighter jet and took off while all the cam models and Romanian citizens looked up at you in awe.

And then everyone clapped.

Well, I'm glad your enjoying your fantasies. Mr. Rourke and Tattoo might have a comeback with your writing ability. I bet your life must be extremely satisfying. I've only been on this site for a day and your extreme prowess at creating drama is evident of someone I once knew. She lived with a bunch of cats. What's the matter, did your crash and burn argument towards my original post cause you some PTSD? Your arm flailing has me worried.

 

[RomanianScamModels]

Some people want to live in their imaginations.

Yeah, they're referred to as Liberals.

 

[AmberCutie]

I think the only issue I find in the OPs posts (sure I hate guys using cam sites as dating sites but whatever) is the misuse of the word jealous.

 

[AmberCutie]

Yeah, they're referred to as Liberals.

I think the only issue I find in the OPs posts (sure I hate guys using cam sites as dating sites but whatever) is the misuse of the word jealous.

Oh wait, and that.

If this starts turning into a political debate it's over. So don't.

 

[AmberCutie]

For people that insist on using sites to chat with EE models before trying to date/marry them, maybe we should figure out which site David was using, because it seemed to work out great for him.

Only had to spend $100k over 7 years to court this lovely lady.... who accepted his proposal then continued to use "the website" for some reason. /shrug

 

[RomanianScamModels]

Have you stopped to wonder why American women don't seem to believe in the same values you have?
I get the impression when you say "traditional values" you mean "a woman who is subservient to her husband and won't call him out on his bullshit". You keep humble bragging about your fancy pants government job and how you give all this money away and all this as if we should be impressed. You sound pretentious as fuck.
The fetish you have about how Romanian women are all so traditional borders on creepy. It's like listening to the guys who fantasize about an Asian wife because they believe they'll be their subordinate little dolls.

I've never met a subservient woman in my life. Not in America and definitely not in Romania. That ideology doesn't exist anymore. Well, except for maybe the fetish world of BDSM. Exactly why am I being attacked anyways? I've done nothing but help people in my life. I even get taken advantage of. So please forgive me if I find your lack of compassion anything but typical right now. It's almost like I tapped the hornets nest of feminists and the alarm was sounded that a rationalist Christian man entered the no testosterone zone. I think it's so easy for people to gang up on the new guy. The truth is, I simply posted this thread as a warning to other men to stay clear of an obvious ongoing problem. If you have issues with me as a person, I can accept that, but that's not why I came here. Maybe we should start a new thread called "Why this site hates men" where you can freely unload your obvious distaste for me. I can't promise I'll respond, since my life has more value than belittling people.

 

[RomanianScamModels]

Oh wait, and that.

If this starts turning into a political debate it's over. So don't.

My apologies, I figured since it was ok for multiple veteran members of this site in a bandwagon effort to discredit my original post as anything but a valid concern without so much as a hint of moderation, I mistook the liberties of what goes on here. I will retract my statement if people can get a grip and present non insulting, non demeaning and non aggressive responses.

 

[Marceline]

your enjoying

**you're

For someone who claims to have an above average IQ, you sure don't sound very smart.

And I think my shitposting joke touched a nerve. Or maybe you're just raging that a woman dare make a joke at your expense, but it seems like I hurt your wittle feewings, so you've resorted to terribly implicated gaslighting. My "argument" about you being a predatory loser who needs to prey on women from other countries by using your money and status as an American man didn't "crash and burn". You just kept on going in circles trying to deny what is obvious to everyone here in this thread, so I stopped being serious, because clearly there's no getting through to you. You're going to keep on being a doofus who funds people he simultaneously thinks of as dirt, so that maybe one day he can sleep with them. You went from insulting these women to totally switching your standpoint when it benefited you. I don't think you give a shit about them, just what they can provide for you sexually. And giving them money so that they can make you feel more wanted and useful, since clearly that's not happening for you in real life, gets you off.

PS. I don't doubt you were probably in the military. It wouldn't surprise me if you were one of the soldiers who used his power as an American soldier in foreign countries to assert sexual authority over foreign women. I highly doubt you were as important as you claim to be, because I've never known someone with actual, legitimate power and authority brag about it on the internet like that.