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Hey ladies I am now representing a new website called Cam4BTC.com. This is the worlds first and only BitCoin Cam site. NO Fees, No signup and peer2peer meaning your video feed gets fed strait to the customer.Did i mention no fees? Cam4btc.com is also ran completely on BitCoin Donations And is totally anonymous. The site is heavily moded so if there is a hint of underage or any illegal activity going on there would be an immediate ban. Cam4BTC is still in its infancy so its not pretty and its design is basic. I know allot of you Ladies Do not like the idea of BitCoin and never will. I am not here to try and change your minds or start a flame war .I myself am exited about Bitcoin, All its benefits and close friendly community it has behind it. I am here looking for like minded Girls or boys who are already intrigued about BitCoin and an opportunity to make money and help grow the community . I also want to say there isn't a whole lot of traffic on the site due to the fact that we run on donations and advertising costs money. At the moment we are trying to Spread the word through social media web sites like Twitter, Reddit, BitCoin forums and other BitCoin related websites. So if you are wanting to broadcast with us it would be good for you to contact me here or on twitter in advance and or set your scheduled on the website so we can promote you before hand.
If you are interested you can contact me on Twitter at https://twitter.com/CassieHeart or message me here. You can check the site out at http://www.Cam4btc.com

Thank you for your time and patients.
Cassie Heart :h: :h: :h:
 
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Longtime bitcoin fanatic here. I've been keeping an eye on Cam4BTC, and I might give it a go just to see what the profits are like.

The site definitely is in its infancy, as you mentioned, and the technical problems are a little weird, but hey - bitcoin camsite. That has my support.

Would there be any incentive for me to work there regularly, in the form of maybe a profile page or maybe a simple link? Like, 'model list' type deal?

EDIT: mebbe I could 'earn' it through a certain amount of hours worked, to prevent there being a giant list of models who rarely show up.
 
Aella said:
Longtime bitcoin fanatic here. I've been keeping an eye on Cam4BTC, and I might give it a go just to see what the profits are like.

The site definitely is in its infancy, as you mentioned, and the technical problems are a little weird, but hey - bitcoin camsite. That has my support.

Would there be any incentive for me to work there regularly, in the form of maybe a profile page or maybe a simple link? Like, 'model list' type deal?

EDIT: mebbe I could 'earn' it through a certain amount of hours worked, to prevent there being a giant list of models who rarely show up.

We could work something out like a banner featuring your picture and name on the front page or broadcasting page If you try to keep a schedule and post it on the site. I know things pop up and a cam girls time is precious :) So i know it wont be set in stone.
 
Kokoro said:
What does the term BitCoin mean?

Bitcoin is a digital currency that is earned from having a computer do complex mathematical calculations that have no use outside of being hard to do. By that I mean they are not folding protein to cure diseases or anything. The mathematical problems get harder as each one is solved. This means the only value in Bitcoins is the value the users place in them, think of them as beanie babies you cannot even cuddle. You can also earn them from other users who give them to you in exchange for good or services, and you can buy them from an exchange as users try to cash out.

The famous Silk Road drug website is the most famous place to spend Bitcoins, but there are other stores you can use them at. Most people will want to cash out and use the resulting money in a regular store I would think though. Which is why I posted about Mt. Gox, the Japanese exchange that's responsible for the lion's share of Bitcoin buying and trading being in trouble above. You will have to find a new way to cash out.

Speaking of cashing out though most of the bitcoins are in the hands of a very few people, and if they ever sell a fraction of their massive holdings the market will be so flooded your coins will be worthless. It would look like the scene from a country experiencing hyper inflation.

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I think Pioneers like Cassie and Aella are great. because someone has to take the plunge.
And I like the idea of Bitcoins but I am not seriously considering them as a form of currency.
unless I see people like Jeff Bezos investing in them.
And Amazon.com, Inc or Paypal/Ebay accepting them as payment. just my :twocents-02cents:
The Treasury Department keeps trying to regulate it does not help matters for me either.
 
This article from Salon pretty much sums up my thoughts on bitcoin.

Bitcoin is a fantasy. The Internet’s currency—a secure, private, decentralized type of money that makes possible anonymous and virtually costless transactions across borders—contains the seeds of its own destruction. More than anything else, it resembles a Ponzi scheme—and the wild claims made on its behalf reveal a great deal about a libertarian strain of thinking with deep roots in the American psyche.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...heme_the_internet_currency_will_collapse.html
 
Shaun__ said:
The US government is cracking down hard on the largest exchange here, and it is very difficult get US currency as a result if you want to cash out.
Yes The Banksters, IRS and the US Government are throwing a Temper tantrum. But it is still very easy to cash out.
MtGox.com is still trading they just have a temporary hold on usd, Temporary. There are still a dozen or more sites and ways to cash out with > here are a few >https://bitpay.com https://btc-e.com https://vircurex.com .
 
Shaun__ said:
Kokoro said:
What does the term BitCoin mean?

Bitcoin is a digital currency that is earned from having a computer do complex mathematical calculations that have no use outside of being hard to do. By that I mean they are not folding protein to cure diseases or anything. The mathematical problems get harder as each one is solved. This means the only value in Bitcoins is the value the users place in them, think of them as beanie babies you cannot even cuddle. You can also earn them from other users who give them to you in exchange for good or services, and you can buy them from an exchange as users try to cash out.

The famous Silk Road drug website is the most famous place to spend Bitcoins, but there are other stores you can use them at. Most people will want to cash out and use the resulting money in a regular store I would think though. Which is why I posted about Mt. Gox, the Japanese exchange that's responsible for the lion's share of Bitcoin buying and trading being in trouble above. You will have to find a new way to cash out.

Speaking of cashing out though most of the bitcoins are in the hands of a very few people, and if they ever sell a fraction of their massive holdings the market will be so flooded your coins will be worthless. It would look like the scene from a country experiencing hyper inflation.

hyBTm1r.jpg

The fact is that at the moment no Place has that kind of funding to cash out massive amounts of bitcoins. That whole hyper inflation thing is just a rumor.There are a lot of nasty rumors that have been spread by the Banking industries and government that are just not true. The fact is Bitcoins top benefit is a low risk to hyper inflation. Now i think it could be possible, Anything is possible just not now. Also there is a easy completely untraceable way to cash out.You can buy gift cards money packs and physical dollars through The silk road, bitmit.net and other places around the Net. People forget also you can sell your coins on Ebay.People are buying them like crazy. There is also cashing them out at an exchange like > https://bitpay.com https://btc-e.com https://vircurex.com .
Mtgox wasn't the only place ;)
 
I've had no problems buying or selling bitcoin.

The problem is when people treat it as an investment, rather than a currency - which is what most people are doing. What we need is a good enough chunk of people to start buying and selling merchandise regularly in bitcoin. It takes a measure of faith, which I'm willing to do, because I love the idea behind bitcoin and want it to work.

I've already made more money off bitcoin than I've put into it, so even if it crashes completely, I'm safe. I'm aware it is risky, but I want to do my part to help drive it towards stability.
 
Thank you Jeff ;) I don't think People Like Jeff Bezos would ever invest in Bitcoin. If they did I am sure they wouldn't make it public.
jeff98902 said:
I think Pioneers like Cassie and Aella are great. because someone has to take the plunge.
And I like the idea of Bitcoins but I am not seriously considering them as a form of currency.
unless I see people like Jeff Bezos investing in them.
And Amazon.com, Inc or Paypal/Ebay accepting them as payment. just my :twocents-02cents:
The Treasury Department keeps trying to regulate it does not help matters for me either.
 
My opinion is that Bitcoin is as Volatile as any other currency. Just look at what has and is happening all over Europe.
I would like to think its safer because the banks and government don't have their hands on it .
LizzySaturday said:
It could be a great way to avoid feeding the greedy virtual pimps and banks. Plus there is no need to verify which is awesome. Pure Anarchy with all pros and cons.
Unfortunately, Bitcoin is a highly volatile currency. But maybe it's still worth a try.
 
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You are completely rite. we need to get people spending them coins! I am glad the Ebay of Bitcoin Bitmit.net is back up.
I think the only investors that are mad about bitcoins are the ones who bought high at $230.00. Which was a horrible investment decision on their part lol.

Aella said:
I've had no problems buying or selling bitcoin.

The problem is when people treat it as an investment, rather than a currency - which is what most people are doing. What we need is a good enough chunk of people to start buying and selling merchandise regularly in bitcoin. It takes a measure of faith, which I'm willing to do, because I love the idea behind bitcoin and want it to work.

I've already made more money off bitcoin than I've put into it, so even if it crashes completely, I'm safe. I'm aware it is risky, but I want to do my part to help drive it towards stability.
 
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So... how would taxes work in this kind of situation? I'm not terribly familiar with bitcoins, but I don't think they're recognized as a currency by most/any countries, right? So you wouldn't be claiming income from this site, which sounds... messy. Even if that is somehow legal, it's hard enough as it is to prove income in all the facets of life where you need to (getting an electric or phone bill, a house, rent, a car...), this would make it near impossible.

Maybe I'm entirely misunderstanding. I guess my question is just how you'd be sending 1099s, if at all.
 
You would not pay taxes on the bitcoins themselves. If you chose to you could Claim income on the bitcoins you exchange for Currency such as dollars. But that's the point of Bitcoin to leave the banks and Gov out of the equation.

As for 1099's and the IRS We have never , Nor would we ever report income or personal details to any government agency. Cam4BTC is not subject to laws from the US government. Also our server do not hold any information on the broadcasters so we couldn't even if we where made to. As of now i would look at cam4btc as a site to splitcam with for extra alternate income. I hope i answered your question ;)

NataliaGrey said:
So... how would taxes work in this kind of situation? I'm not terribly familiar with bitcoins, but I don't think they're recognized as a currency by most/any countries, right? So you wouldn't be claiming income from this site, which sounds... messy. Even if that is somehow legal, it's hard enough as it is to prove income in all the facets of life where you need to (getting an electric or phone bill, a house, rent, a car...), this would make it near impossible.

Maybe I'm entirely misunderstanding. I guess my question is just how you'd be sending 1099s, if at all.
 
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Isn't the main point of bitcoins to buy things on the Silk Road (like drugs, child port and bestiality porn) as its unregulated currency?

Will this website, as it is unregulated by the government, allow bestiality, underage performers, etc?
 
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You would not pay taxes on the bitcoins themselves. If you chose to you could Claim income on the bitcoins you exchange for Currency such as dollars. But that's the point of Bitcoin to leave the banks and Gov out of the equation.

As for 1099's and the IRS We have never , Nor would we ever report income or personal details to any government agency. Cam4BTC is not subject to laws from the US government. Also our server do not hold any information on the broadcasters so we couldn't even if we where made to. As of now i would look at cam4btc as a site to splitcam with for extra alternate income. I hope i answered your question ;)

NataliaGrey said:
So... how would taxes work in this kind of situation? I'm not terribly familiar with bitcoins, but I don't think they're recognized as a currency by most/any countries, right? So you wouldn't be claiming income from this site, which sounds... messy. Even if that is somehow legal, it's hard enough as it is to prove income in all the facets of life where you need to (getting an electric or phone bill, a house, rent, a car...), this would make it near impossible.

Maybe I'm entirely misunderstanding. I guess my question is just how you'd be sending 1099s, if at all.

This sounds messy :twocents-02cents:



Also--although Cam4BTC might be the only/first caming site for bitoins.

Motherless has been using BitCoins for a while as a tipping option.
 
SexyStephXS said:
Isn't the main point of bitcoins to buy things on the Silk Road (like drugs, child port and bestiality porn) as its unregulated currency?

Will this website, as it is unregulated by the government, allow bestiality, underage performers, etc?

No No no NO :naughty: NO under age Nudity NO bestiality. Any of these things will result in a permanent ban!
Also the silk road does not sell child porn. I think you should check some bitcoin merchant sites out for your self
Like http://www.bitcoinstore.com & http://www.bitmit.net and have a look . BitCoins aren't evil like the bankster ran media outlets make them out to be lol
 
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cassieheart said:
SexyStephXS said:
Isn't the main point of bitcoins to buy things on the Silk Road (like drugs, child port and bestiality porn) as its unregulated currency?

Will this website, as it is unregulated by the government, allow bestiality, underage performers, etc?

No No no NO :naughty: NO under age Nudity NO bestiality. Any of these things will result in a permanent ban!
Also the silk road does not sell child porn. I think you should check some bitcoin merchant sites out for your self
Like http://www.bitcoinstore.com & http://www.bitmit.net and have a look . BitCoins aren't evil like the bankster ran media outlets make them out to be lol

Thank god. I was very concerned that it would be able to allow things like that and that worried me. Thanks for clearing that up! :)
 
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cassieheart said:
SexyStephXS said:
Isn't the main point of bitcoins to buy things on the Silk Road (like drugs, child port and bestiality porn) as its unregulated currency?

Will this website, as it is unregulated by the government, allow bestiality, underage performers, etc?

No No no NO :naughty: NO under age Nudity NO bestiality. Any of these things will result in a permanent ban!
Also the silk road does not sell child porn. I think you should check some bitcoin merchant sites out for your self
Like http://www.bitcoinstore.com & http://www.bitmit.net and have a look . BitCoins aren't evil like the bankster ran media outlets make them out to be lol

I agree bitcoins like virtually any technology is inherently neutral. But unfortunately the usage and promotion of Bitcoins, seems to attract two type the "nice" libertarian types who see the benefits of a currency unable to be manipulated by governments. And the evil folks who see the benefit of a currency which is untraceable and leaves no easy electronic trail. This makes bitcoin a wonderful currency for doing transaction for the worse drugs, evading taxes, and extreme porn. But of course any of the mechanism that make harder to do the evil stuff also conflicts with the primary benefits of Bitcoins.

I am still trying to see a benefit for me patronizing a bitcoin cam site.
 
HiGirlsRHot said:
cassieheart said:
SexyStephXS said:
Isn't the main point of bitcoins to buy things on the Silk Road (like drugs, child port and bestiality porn) as its unregulated currency?

Will this website, as it is unregulated by the government, allow bestiality, underage performers, etc?

No No no NO :naughty: NO under age Nudity NO bestiality. Any of these things will result in a permanent ban!
Also the silk road does not sell child porn. I think you should check some bitcoin merchant sites out for your self
Like http://www.bitcoinstore.com & http://www.bitmit.net and have a look . BitCoins aren't evil like the bankster ran media outlets make them out to be lol

I agree bitcoins like virtually any technology is inherently neutral. But unfortunately the usage and promotion of Bitcoins, seems to attract two type the "nice" libertarian types who see the benefits of a currency unable to be manipulated by governments. And the evil folks who see the benefit of a currency which is untraceable and leaves no easy electronic trail. This makes bitcoin a wonderful currency for doing transaction for the worse drugs, evading taxes, and extreme porn. But of course any of the mechanism that make harder to do the evil stuff also conflicts with the primary benefits of Bitcoins.

I am still trying to see a benefit for me patronizing a bitcoin cam site.

The benefit. Is that your going to be making bitcoins!
 
SexyStephXS said:
cassieheart said:
SexyStephXS said:
Isn't the main point of bitcoins to buy things on the Silk Road (like drugs, child port and bestiality porn) as its unregulated currency?

Will this website, as it is unregulated by the government, allow bestiality, underage performers, etc?

No No no NO :naughty: NO under age Nudity NO bestiality. Any of these things will result in a permanent ban!
Also the silk road does not sell child porn. I think you should check some bitcoin merchant sites out for your self
Like http://www.bitcoinstore.com & http://www.bitmit.net and have a look . BitCoins aren't evil like the bankster ran media outlets make them out to be lol

Thank god. I was very concerned that it would be able to allow things like that and that worried me. Thanks for clearing that up! :)

Actually I'm pretty sure one can't 'ban' someone from bitcoin. It's not regulated by any one central authority, and exchanges are almost entirely anonymous. Child pornography and bestiality probably ARE purchased and sold in bitcoin, and as it currently stands there is no way to stop it.

I support bitcoin anyway, though, because, though it is free from law, it's also free from government. Ideally, once it gains stability, there will be no regulation by an outside authority, there will be easier methods of tax reduction, and the market will be entirely self-regulating. A libertarian paradise, or at least as close to one as we're gonna get, here. Nobody can track transactions, so nobody could look at your records and try to take your money. There will be no artificial inflation or money saturation. There will be no import or export taxes. Everything will be at the whim of the consumer. Possibly even no minimum wage laws (though our government would probably fuck that over).

It's an unlikely future, but I want it so much I'm gonna support it anyway.
 
cassieheart said:
The fact is that at the moment no Place has that kind of funding to cash out massive amounts of bitcoins. That whole hyper inflation thing is just a rumor.There are a lot of nasty rumors that have been spread by the Banking industries and government that are just not true. The fact is Bitcoins top benefit is a low risk to hyper inflation. Now i think it could be possible, Anything is possible just not now. Also there is a easy completely untraceable way to cash out.You can buy gift cards money packs and physical dollars through The silk road, bitmit.net and other places around the Net. People forget also you can sell your coins on Ebay.People are buying them like crazy. There is also cashing them out at an exchange like > https://bitpay.com https://btc-e.com https://vircurex.com .
Mtgox wasn't the only place ;)

This post shows your lack of understanding of what you are defending. You realize if there are more bitcoins than there is money to buy bitcoins then the value of bitcoins goes down? Every time someone pops up on the site to defend this volatile currency, whose main use seems to be illegal tax evasion and purchasing illegal goods, they are always full of imaginary things about how safe and great it is.

This is a story from April, Bitcoin crashes, losing nearly half of its value in six hours. People need to understand that bitcoin is not a currency backed by a large country and it also has zero intrinsic value. The difference between collecting bitcoins and commemorative plates is that you can eat off of the plates if they fail to increase in value.


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Aella said:
Actually I'm pretty sure one can't 'ban' someone from bitcoin. It's not regulated by any one central authority, and exchanges are almost entirely anonymous. Child pornography and bestiality probably ARE purchased and sold in bitcoin, and as it currently stands there is no way to stop it.

I support bitcoin anyway, though, because, though it is free from law, it's also free from government. Ideally, once it gains stability, there will be no regulation by an outside authority, there will be easier methods of tax reduction, and the market will be entirely self-regulating. A libertarian paradise, or at least as close to one as we're gonna get, here. Nobody can track transactions, so nobody could look at your records and try to take your money. There will be no artificial inflation or money saturation. There will be no import or export taxes. Everything will be at the whim of the consumer. Possibly even no minimum wage laws (though our government would probably fuck that over).

It's an unlikely future, but I want it so much I'm gonna support it anyway.
Wrong!

The Bitcoin Wiki for Anonymity isn't very reassuring, starting off admitting that "while the Bitcoin technology can support strong anonymity, the current implementation is usually not very anonymous."
Also this paper http://eprint.iacr.org/2012/584.pdf by Dorit Ron and Adi Shamir on the "Quantitative Analysis of the Full Bitcoin Transaction Graph" shows us that by analysing the Bitcoin Transaction graph (by default all transactions are logged the proverbial paper trail see http://blockchain.info/) you could figure out who is making the transactions.

They actually used this technique to search for Satoshi Nakamoto (person or group of people who designed and created the original Bitcoin software). They concluded that a handful of massive transactions made in November 2010, in which large amounts of Bitcoins were stashed away in several accounts that have yet to make another outgoing transaction were in fact by this person/persons. While it is not 100% Dorit and Adi say that if any of the Bitcoins make another transaction they would be able to identify who made them.

So the only way to be anonymous is not to have any transactions. Which defeats the purpose of any currency.
 
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