Banned from chaturbate?

[gudheadt]

hello before im going to go in to the ban, here is a little information about me.
i'm a 19years old cam model from Denmark, i've been on chaturbate for the past 7 months having fun camming and meeting some of the most awsome models/fans in the world, i have been able to travel and meet people thanks to camming so im extremely gratefull to chaturbate over it.
so the 29september where when i got my first ban under my show, mind you i where not doing anything "bad" or against chaturbates rules, i just got kickede out of my room and then that page where you have to put in your id came up. then i put in my id and i where unbanned the next day.
but then i got on cam again the next day about 1 hour in to my show, this time the only thing comming up where this messagde "We have reason to believe that you may have violated our terms of service." but i have looked over there terms of service multiple times and i cant find Anything at all that i have done wrong.
before my ban i averagede about 250-700people in my room at one time, i had over 25 fanclub members (people that pay about 5dollars pr month to be in the club) and 17000+followers.
i have tried emailing there suport but that have not helpede, i also tried to email shirley but she have not responded to my emails at all.
have any one else had this problem, and if so how did you resolve it?
any help would be really awsome!

edit, this post are not createde to slur or harm chaturbate, but simply asking for any help.

 

[gudheadt]

so i guess, im the only one that have had this problem :/ any one got any suggestions on what to do?

 

[mynameisbob84]

so i guess, im the only one that have had this problem :/ any one got any suggestions on what to do?

I've not done the math or anything, but no, I don't think you're the one to have had this problem sadly.

 

[StrayObject]

Search for "banned from chaturbate" on this forum. You are not the first or probably not the last.

 

[Puffin]

i'm a 19years old cam model from Denmark. ... and then that page where you have to put in your id came up.

If you don't look old enough that could be the problem, and hence request for id.
I don't know the rules on chaturbate(perhaps comeone can link them) but on MFC you can be removed if you don't look old enough.

so i guess, im the only one that have had this problem :/ any one got any suggestions on what to do?

Search for "banned from chaturbate" on this forum. You are not the first or probably not the last.

@gudheadt, chaturbate banning is not uncommon, see this and this.

 

[gudheadt]

If you don't look old enough that could be the problem, and hence request for id.
I don't know the rules on chaturbate(perhaps comeone can link them) but on MFC you can be removed if you don't look old enough.





@gudheadt, chaturbate banning is not uncommon, see this and this.

the thing is that i where not a small cam model. like i know i bought a pretty good sum of money in for them, so i would think they would care about it. + i have quite a large following that have written Countless emails to the normal suport and shirley. but none of them have responded with anything other then the usual "we cant talk about other models buisniss" which is fine and all, but i have not gotten any answer what so ever from shirley herself.

 

[DeezNA]

There's a pretty apathetic mentality around helping models/members in recovering from bans on camsites (CB especially) since it happens pretty frequently - rightfully so, as there are a metric fuck-ton of "models" and members on CB that frequently and blatantly break rules.

Unfortunately, with your case, there is very little we can do to provide you any form of assistance or condolence since we have pretty much no information about the actual events regarding the second "ban". Here are some examples of information that could help with identifying the problem: specific reasons stated by Chaturbate regarding your ban, what was happening in your room right before the ban, usual show content if this was "just another normal show", summarized content of your repeated contacts with CB Support and Shirley. Your traffic numbers, fanclub members, followers, income stats - none of that helps us identify any problem at all, nor does it exempt you from punishment if the site deems it necessary or worthy.

It is contractually agreed upon registration that CB has full right to shut down your account for any reason and at any time they see fit, but they usually at least give a general statement as to why they did it. If you could fill in some of that missing information, we may be able to assist. If you need help properly requesting this information from CB, we can also assist with that.

Feel free to let us know how we can help you and we'll do the best we can.

 

[David_Lee_Loca]

My ex looked like he was pushing 17 (and is older than me ! ) and we never had any problems with him "looking too young".
Hell, he even had the voice of a high-school freshman.
Like, seriously, the only time we even ever got a warning was for drinking.
I'm curious as to what went on in your usual show too.

 

[gudheadt]

There's a pretty apathetic mentality around helping models/members in recovering from bans on camsites (CB especially) since it happens pretty frequently - rightfully so, as there are a metric fuck-ton of "models" and members on CB that frequently and blatantly break rules.

Unfortunately, with your case, there is very little we can do to provide you any form of assistance or condolence since we have pretty much no information about the actual events regarding the second "ban". Here are some examples of information that could help with identifying the problem: specific reasons stated by Chaturbate regarding your ban, what was happening in your room right before the ban, usual show content if this was "just another normal show", summarized content of your repeated contacts with CB Support and Shirley. Your traffic numbers, fanclub members, followers, income stats - none of that helps us identify any problem at all, nor does it exempt you from punishment if the site deems it necessary or worthy.

It is contractually agreed upon registration that CB has full right to shut down your account for any reason and at any time they see fit, but they usually at least give a general statement as to why they did it. If you could fill in some of that missing information, we may be able to assist. If you need help properly requesting this information from CB, we can also assist with that.

Feel free to let us know how we can help you and we'll do the best we can.

okay so about 1 hour in to my show, i where sitting butt naked you know normal stuff, talking with people and having a good time (nothing more then just sitting on my bed and talking with people, like that is everything my show normaly is, and then the fapping like once in a light year, yes i know im the most boring cammer ever lol) and then i randomely got banned, like i where not drinking, not doing drugs or anything else that could have breachede there terms of service, to the looking young thing, i have had that To many times i'm 19 but look like im 14 lol so i suspekt that where the problem on the first day, hints to why i had to submit my id again. but dunno about the secound day, the only thing the suport told me where that they suspekt me of breaching there terms of service. and that my account where getting terminated.

 

[DeezNA]

Hi @gudheadt ,

Thanks for a bit more detail, but unfortunately none of it really clearly explains your situation so there's not a ton for me to go off of as far as troubleshooting. The best I can do is ask a few questions and see what we can discuss with CB to get this worked out.

First, and most importantly, I would like to address the underage statements. You have proven that you are over 18, this is quite clear, the thing that is not extremely clear is whether or not you play out that underage-look angle or fantasy for your guests (whether playfully, subconsciously or actively) or not. Looking underage is not a problem or something to worry about if you act like an adult, if you play underage... that's a massive liability and breach of big-ol' Term 3 on the ToS. Simulated child pornography, whether consciously played off that way or not, is a really big problem.

If this is not the case and you clearly correct people every time they say "oh, you look 14", there is another underlying problem that hasn't been stated yet. CB Support, no matter what you hear people say about them, does not ban for absolutely no reason. There is always a catalyst. Whether the catalyst is "justified" or "right" is absolutely up for debate, but in my 4+ years of immersion in the cam industry, I have never seen a ban for absolutely no reason.

Given this, if you haven't already, I would reflect back on if anything at all was different about that show: an animal on screen, an unverified person on screen, joking about looking very young, talking about meeting up with people, stuff like that. Next, I would email either Shirley or Support with a well thought-out letter (think like you are writing for a job interview, because if you take this job seriously, it kinda is...) asking specifically which breach of policy you were banned for and what you can do for them to get your business back up and running, or if that's even possible.

Since you haven't really mentioned anything about your interactions with CB Support other than the fact that they didn't respond to you, I am assuming there is an error in the way communication is getting through. Repeatedly emailing is never the answer - direct, detailed, informed messages requesting exactly what you need from them streamlines the process in spades. Add in a dash of patience and you should be good in a few weeks tops.

I hope at least a little of this can get us on the track of figuring out what really went wrong.

 

[gudheadt]

Hi @gudheadt ,

Thanks for a bit more detail, but unfortunately none of it really clearly explains your situation so there's not a ton for me to go off of as far as troubleshooting. The best I can do is ask a few questions and see what we can discuss with CB to get this worked out.

First, and most importantly, I would like to address the underage statements. You have proven that you are over 18, this is quite clear, the thing that is not extremely clear is whether or not you play out that underage-look angle or fantasy for your guests (whether playfully, subconsciously or actively) or not. Looking underage is not a problem or something to worry about if you act like an adult, if you play underage... that's a massive liability and breach of big-ol' Term 3 on the ToS. Simulated child pornography, whether consciously played off that way or not, is a really big problem.

If this is not the case and you clearly correct people every time they say "oh, you look 14", there is another underlying problem that hasn't been stated yet. CB Support, no matter what you hear people say about them, does not ban for absolutely no reason. There is always a catalyst. Whether the catalyst is "justified" or "right" is absolutely up for debate, but in my 4+ years of immersion in the cam industry, I have never seen a ban for absolutely no reason.

Given this, if you haven't already, I would reflect back on if anything at all was different about that show: an animal on screen, an unverified person on screen, joking about looking very young, talking about meeting up with people, stuff like that. Next, I would email either Shirley or Support with a well thought-out letter (think like you are writing for a job interview, because if you take this job seriously, it kinda is...) asking specifically which breach of policy you were banned for and what you can do for them to get your business back up and running, or if that's even possible.

Since you haven't really mentioned anything about your interactions with CB Support other than the fact that they didn't respond to you, I am assuming there is an error in the way communication is getting through. Repeatedly emailing is never the answer - direct, detailed, informed messages requesting exactly what you need from them streamlines the process in spades. Add in a dash of patience and you should be good in a few weeks tops.

I hope at least a little of this can get us on the track of figuring out what really went wrong.

hey so yes i look pretty young, but i try and tell people that i'm 19 everytime they ask, or else i will tell them to look in my bio.(which states im 19) i dont play on the "you look young card" because i think that is moraly wrong, the only thing i can think of me doing that maby could have gotten me in to trouble where that i talkede about staying with a girl in america (i live in denmark) when i got there, but even that i dont think would have causede any trouble because she herself is a cam model. there where no animals on screen or any other person then me those days, or any other such things. i send her a letter yesterday, where i explain everything, but i have still not gotten a answer from her. and the regulair suport only tells me that they think i have violatede the terms of service. and wont go in to details about what i did do wrong. if there is any other information you need then i will be more then villing to give it

 

[DeezNA]

Well, I am as stumped as you are, @gudheadt . I don't mean to make presumptions about how you present yourself - people who are "banned for no reason" have a tendency to either hide or be oblivious to the reason they were really banned, making it seem like a "random ban". I was just trying to give some feedback on potential factors; since it seems to be none of those, I really don't know what else to tell you.

Unfortunately, CB doesn't have any contractual obligation to tell you why your account was banned. It sucks but it's in the contract pretty clearly. If Support or Shirley don't feel a desire or need to tell you why, they really don't have to. This can make "convincing them to tell you the reason" a very difficult or impossible task.

The best suggestion I can give you, given the information you have provided, is to either contact Support one final time and ask politely which Term you were in breach of... or just take your business to another site. Do not set up another account on CB. Do not send multiple messages. If you've tried the previous two sentences in the past, don't bother contacting them a final time.

That's really all I can think of, given the scenario presented. I wish I could be of more help... it's just none of us were there, so we really can't tell you what you did wrong. If you are looking into other sites, Streammate is popular and male-friendly. Just make sure to read the contracts and rules very carefully as it functions much differently than token-based sites.

Best of luck, let us know if any new information pops up that could potentially help you out.

 

[gudheadt]

Well, I am as stumped as you are, @gudheadt . I don't mean to make presumptions about how you present yourself - people who are "banned for no reason" have a tendency to either hide or be oblivious to the reason they were really banned, making it seem like a "random ban". I was just trying to give some feedback on potential factors; since it seems to be none of those, I really don't know what else to tell you.

Unfortunately, CB doesn't have any contractual obligation to tell you why your account was banned. It sucks but it's in the contract pretty clearly. If Support or Shirley don't feel a desire or need to tell you why, they really don't have to. This can make "convincing them to tell you the reason" a very difficult or impossible task.

The best suggestion I can give you, given the information you have provided, is to either contact Support one final time and ask politely which Term you were in breach of... or just take your business to another site. Do not set up another account on CB. Do not send multiple messages. If you've tried the previous two sentences in the past, don't bother contacting them a final time.

That's really all I can think of, given the scenario presented. I wish I could be of more help... it's just none of us were there, so we really can't tell you what you did wrong. If you are looking into other sites, Streammate is popular and male-friendly. Just make sure to read the contracts and rules very carefully as it functions much differently than token-based sites.

Best of luck, let us know if any new information pops up that could potentially help you out.

yes i get what you mean that it could be because i where hiding something, but im really not, like i have given the information out that i got, i really dont know why i where banned and have been looking in to why it happend, but i still can figurere out how, i have also contactede the suport but hopeless, last time the only response they gave me where "
As you may have noticed, your account with the Chaturbate live cam community has been terminated. This termination is due to suspected violation of our terms of service.
Let us know if you require any further assistance, and we will be happy to help! " when i askede what terms of service i had violatede then they send the same again. right now i have taken my buisniss else where, not going to mention the site just because i dont know if i can do that on here lol, but if possible then i would love to come back on chaturbate, that is where my friends are and all the people that i like being around. i know they can ban you with out a reason or anything, but i Highely dought they would just do that since i bring in a good amounght of money for them. but i think this is kind of sad, like they have stoppede responding to me and my fans(they properly get like 10 emails a day about unbanning me). but nothing seems to help any, and its just frustrating me.

 

[DeezNA]

We may have found a suspect in why they won't respond... Having your fans rally and spam messages at CB Support to get you back will not get you unbanned, if anything it will likely worsen the scenario. As this has already happened, I wouldn't worry about it, I would just ask your fans to stop immediately before CB starts shutting their accounts down for harassment.

Support sent you a form letter. There is a slight difference between not hearing anything from them and hearing simply the same message repeatedly. They are dealing with the situation poorly, but they are doing it by the books, which tells me your account was likely flagged. Some culprits of this activity could be multiple accounts on the same IP, suspicion of underage/falsified information, multiple IPs accessing the same account or VPN usage. This response is likely automated, which would make progress nearly impossible unless you can somehow get through to an actual person and start getting some concrete answers.

I'm not sure why you wouldn't be able to talk about a different site that you cam on in this forum... I cam on both CB and SM, many (I'd venture to say most) models here work on multiple sites as well.

As a final note, since you're talking directly and publicly to other models here, I would drop the "I bring in a good amount of money for them" bullshit. CB made more money off of ad revenue than they did from you; you're not hot shit, you're a model just like the rest of us and staying grounded and being realistic is really the only way you will ever be able to deal with situations like these. Just because you had higher room counts does not mean you are exempt from the rules or punishments for breaking them.

My only recommendations from here out would be to call off your fans, get them onto your new site and focus on trying to not get your account banned there.

 

[TacoBelle]

Having your fans rally and spam messages at CB Support to get you back will not get you unbanned, if anything it will likely worsen the scenario.

I dunno, Deez. I mean, look at that Heatherdeep chick (couple?). They did all that shit to CB publicly, even threatened them multiple times, and CB still re-enacted their account. So... it seems that CB may be just as dumb as some of its performers.

OP, it sucks that you got banned, but I highly suggest you take the advice Deez gave you and move on to another site. CB has always been known to shoot first and ask questions later (if at all), so we've seen this scenario hundreds of times on this forum alone. Even if they did re-instate your account, the chances of them banning you again are close to 100%. Then you'll have to go through all this again. Just go to another platform that actually respects their workers a bit more. Then you can count on actually getting the money that you make.

 

[gudheadt]

i will say i did not tell my fans to spam or do anything violet to the suport or shirley herself, but yes i get what you mean, the thing that really annoyes me is that i honestely dont think i have done anything wrong, but on chaturbate people can aparently just report one and then you will get shot down and not respondede to unless you have like a 100k+ followers or something. idk i really love that site and got to many friends over there to want to drop it all together. im also trying a nother site but are not as sucessfull because a lot of my fans only follows me on chaturbate and not twitter and stuff.
also the reason i got the "I bring in a good amount of money for them" in there is because im just trying to say that they are a buisniss and there for properly would like to know how to increase there income, and not banning innocent people that make them money would be a good way to start.

but thanks for the nice advice, more are always welcome. :3

 

[Teagan]

I dunno, Deez. I mean, look at that Heatherdeep chick (couple?). They did all that shit to CB publicly, even threatened them multiple times, and CB still re-enacted their account. So... it seems that CB may be just as dumb as some of its performers.

Wait they let them back? After this last go around of all the stuff said in that thread? Shirley saw that stuff too. I tagged her AND her profile said she was in the thread later on. WTF is wrong with them.

 

[TacoBelle]

Wait they let them back? After this last go around of all the stuff said in that thread? Shirley saw that stuff too. I tagged her AND her profile said she was in the thread later on. WTF is wrong with them.

Yeah, a few days after chick was banned here, I looked at her twitter. Yep, they were talking MAJOR shit about CB on Twitter too, and literally THE NEXT DAY they updated it with lots of pictures and stuff saying, "Come see us on Chaturbate since they finally unbanned us! It's about time! They knew we were too good to lose!" or similar. /facepalm

 

[gudheadt]

Wait they let them back? After this last go around of all the stuff said in that thread? Shirley saw that stuff too. I tagged her AND her profile said she was in the thread later on. WTF is wrong with them.

i've have seen colombian transsexuals do coke on cam, then get banned and be on the next day with out a problem. it seems like you can get back from "almost" anything.

 

[HotAndScottish]

Just keep emailing Shirley. Always put your model name in the subject, keep the emails short and she'll get back to you when she can. There's nothing else you can do.

 

[gudheadt]

Just keep emailing Shirley. Always put your model name in the subject, keep the emails short and she'll get back to you when she can. There's nothing else you can do.

i will try that, so far no response and it have been 20days, but im hopefull thanks for the respose, its so cool to see how the cam community is helping out.

 

[DeezNA]

@Teagan @I_Am_Iris The other offenders in question were reinstated because of a difficult call that CB had to make - weigh the options of hiring an international lawyer to sue those assholes or just give them their account back and hope they don't break more rules/laws. Shirley was well alerted to the events that happened here and the personal security leaks against herself. CB did not necessarily make the smartest choice, but if you put yourself in their shoes, it kinda makes sense. As Iris said, the models are pretty much guaranteed to fuck up again or move away from site when their attention streak goes cold; either way, they're gone.

We can sit here and say they play favorites for front-page models all day (and legally they reserve every right to do so) but in the end, what good does that do? The most any of us could do is start speaking the same language and get CB to adjust their ToS so that they have less power, but we all know that isn't going to happen any time soon. The smartest thing we can all do is learn from the mistakes made by and events that happen to others and help those that can be helped. The other studio in question was banned for obvious reasons. Every other "no-reason ban" I have looked into and helped people with actually had a tangible cause at the root. So... basically... just don't break the rules. I've been over at CB for well over 2 years now and I have gotten one single warning when I had a guest model on my stream who was not fully verified on my account - we were back up and running without too much delay. My stream was not disabled, my account was not suspended or banned... I simply couldn't receive tips until that issue was addressed. So, if someone is immediately banned, it tells me they likely did something pretty serious...

i've have seen colombian transsexuals do coke on cam, then get banned and be on the next day with out a problem. it seems like you can get back from "almost" anything.

Then you must have done something really bad... I also think your example is purely fabricated bullshit. This thread is for you, if you want us to be able to help you at all you have to start being fully honest with us, otherwise there's really nothing we can do. The whole situation makes no sense at all - either you are not as successful as you're bragging about (because you got banned and apparently top models can get away with anything, right?...), you were banned for committing a serious offense (and are covering your own ass here) or CB is just culling their own models (which logically and business-wise just doesn't make any sense). Either way, the chances of @gudheadt not lying or being oblivious are minimal at best.

I'm so sick of seeing these utterly hypocritical "CB is a steaming pile of shit website that's run horribly... why won't they unban me and let me work for them again?!" posts. Yes, life is unfair. Yes, having to work under such strict contracts is not ideal. This does not mean we are all just potential victims and I'm kinda getting tired of seeing this attitude everywhere. If you don't do anything wrong, you're not going to get in trouble - end of story. A model that follows the rules is worth a lot more to CB than someone starting shit, regardless of income or expenditure. We know what terms we agreed to when we started working at the site and any repercussions of our own actions leave only ourselves to blame. In other words - if you don't like the way CB functions, don't fucking work there.

 

[gudheadt]

Then you must have done something really bad... I also think your example is purely fabricated bullshit.

okay first of all, Unless im blind or dont know how to read there tos, then i have not done anything wrong, i have had 3 people now that are lawyers that watch me on a daily bacis to look over it and they cant fint anything eighter. and no, its not "fabricated bullshit" that Literaly happends everyday, i usede pretty much all my time eighter on that site or with it on my secound monitor so i see a lot of stuff.

either you are not as successful as you're bragging about (because you got banned and apparently top models can get away with anything, right?...), you were banned for committing a serious offense (and are covering your own ass here) or CB is just culling their own models (which logically and business-wise just doesn't make any sense). Either way, the chances of @gudheadt not lying or being oblivious are minimal at best.

i have never claimede to be "sucessful just that i made them a decent amounght of money" but i get what you mean. neighter did i say top models can get away with anything, although they can get away with a lot more then normal people, but that is a discussion for another day. i don't see why i would go on to a cam girl forum and ask how i can get unbanned. and then Explain the whole thing, what happend. im more then willing to give out any information people ask for, except my name adress and that stuff.

I've been over at CB for well over 2 years now and I have gotten one single warning when I had a guest model on my stream who was not fully verified on my account - we were back up and running without too much delay. My stream was not disabled, my account was not suspended or banned... I simply couldn't receive tips until that issue was addressed. So, if someone is immediately banned, it tells me they likely did something pretty serious...

that is fine, but i have had 1 person that where not fully verified on my account and my account got Banned untill i submittede my own id and her's, i have seen it happend again And again where people get banned if some one on there cam is not verified. and that is fine, i get that they need to do it. but i will guess you where "lucky" then, or else me and Literaly every other model i know that have this happend to them been on lucky, im not calling you a liar, just trying to debunk your arguement, because i feel its trying to be really offensive.

last i want to say that i dont think the statement "CB is a steaming pile of shit website that's run horribly... why won't they unban me and let me work for them again?!" is true, chaturbate is a good site and have a Extremely nice community and everything, but its to easy getting some one banned on there for no reason, idk if you know this, but it takes almost Nothing to get any one banned on there, if enough reports gets send your way then they are going to do something about it, and then look in to whether or not its true later. i got a friend that dont cam but only tip on the site, and last month he spend over 3k on that site, and about a week ago he got banned for no reason, and no explanation. cb is a lovely site but it also have its flaws Just like any other site.

if any one have any questions regarding the day where i got banned then i'm more then willing to answer them.

 

[Dani Picas]

Once, I got banned for doing a bdsm related show and a user reported me for violence. Had my account taken away, until I asked them to just let me payout, they decided to give me my account back. When it happened, I kindly messaged them, and then didn´t annoy them until I got my answer 3 days later.

I was in the top row every day for a month, but I wasn´t making as much as the top girls there... So I don´t know if it´s about how much you make etc.

Then, quite literally, randomly they just banned my account... Out of no where. You guys might not believe me but I actually hadn´t done anything wrong. They had decided, after 10 months of using my ID, that it was no longer not good enough. They sent me an automatic message after sent a support message.

I sent them an email asking how my ID was okay for 10 months, but not now and they said sorry and just let me back on....

I think that me being nice when I emailed them helped. I did screw up the first time, they have strict BDSM related rules, and I was tied up... so they could have just taken all my money and my account, but they didn´t cause I was nice and recognised the error.

If you haven´t been nice and respectful so far, because it could just be an error, or something that you can overcome by working with them... then I think you might just need to move on.

 

[gudheadt]

that totally makes sence dani picas and i get that i have to be nice when emailing them or else it would make sence why they dont take it serius, but i will say i have been pretty nice and cool when emailing them. this where a screenshot of the email i send to shirley. pictures and my real name have been blockede out for my own safety and all that lol.
https://gyazo.com/d5c21d220c04c3fe0a5a6966c3b5839f

 

[Teagan]

Nah apparently you can also harass and threaten to take down their entire site for days on end and get let back on too.

Honestly it all just depends on who you get at support and if they feel like doing their job that day and how well. Most support people do like when others are nice to them of course. A lot of stuff they do makes no or little sense though.

 

[DeezNA]

Well that was a response...

i usede pretty much all my time eighter on that site or with it on my secound monitor so i see a lot of stuff.

How can you do this if your account is banned? Do you have another account that you didn't tell us about?

if any one have any questions regarding the day where i got banned then i'm more then willing to answer them.

If there is nothing more that you have to share about the situation (you know, like your other past ban that you failed to mention until just now...), there are no other questions that would provide information to help your situation. This statement alone implies there is shit you are not telling us - just think about it, no one would ask you questions if you already told us everything. No one here works for CB except for Shirley and she is not responding to you, so no one here can wave a fucking wand and make your problems go away - getting upset with the only people taking the time to actually help you is only going to set you back even more, so I would slow your roll on that and try to understand why I am reacting the way that I am when I am literally taking time out of my day to help my competition.


@Dani Picas - The problem with your ID was probably a change of ToS where they didn't accept that form of ID anymore or some error related to that, likely automated. I absolutely agree that they should notify every time, it's simply good business practice, but they are not legally obligated to. My point in all this is that there is always a reason: in your case it was your ID, in my case it was verification of another model on my account, in gud's case we're simply not getting a direct answer.


I have seen "not-top-models" have bans removed because of error or misunderstandings several times. The idea that "top-models" are immune to punishment simply breeds conflict and resentment within the camming community, which I don't think is the goal of this forum. Pointing fingers left and right and theorizing conspiracy doesn't solve problems. If we want to get to the root of the problem and actually help this guy, we need to drop the conspiracy shit and start focusing on specific reasons why this kid might have been banned - unfortunately, that's all information that he has and he's still stubbornly claiming innocence despite already being punished for a term breach.


I'll be around if you guys want my perspective but I'm beyond done with this 'CB Support is evil and randomly bans people left and right' circle-jerk - whether it's true or not holds no weight, it simply doesn't help anyone and kinda defeats the point of the thread.

 

[gudheadt]

How can you do this if your account is banned? Do you have another account that you didn't tell us about?

there is a reason why i said "usede to, you know as in i cant watch chaturbate any longer because my account is banned"

If there is nothing more that you have to share about the situation (you know, like your other past ban that you failed to mention until just now...),

if you read longer up in the first post i made, i actully wrote the secound ban in but okay "so the 29september where when i got my first ban under my show, mind you i where not doing anything "bad" or against chaturbates rules, i just got kickede out of my room and then that page where you have to put in your id came up. then i put in my id and i where unbanned the next day.
but then i got on cam again the next day about 1 hour in to my show"
(sorry just saw that where not what you where talking about lol, but that should still not matter at all, because it have nothing with this case to do)

i get that no one here can "wave a want and get the problems to go away" that is not what im trying to get at, im trying to seek help and ask if others have tried the same thing happening to them. i'm not hiding anything at all, because i simply dont see a reason to hide anything when im asking on a open forum about stuff.

and im really glad you took the time out of your day to help the "competition" althought i think that is a werry negative way to look, because you are implying its a Free for all and everyone stands alone, which is not that case at all. just over the past week i have seen how helpfull the cam community are on this site alone.

what i ment in my "if any one have any questions regarding the day where i got banned then i'm more then willing to answer them. " is just that if there is anything you girls and guys are confusede about, or want to know more about then i would like to tell more, If there is more to tell. although i am 99% sure i got all the information on there.

 

[DeezNA]

Prior bans/suspensions/warnings absolutely have everything to do with this situation! It's basically a criminal record!

All you're doing is still defending everything that questions your character or actions, so whenever you want to get back to the topic of bailing your guilty ass out... I'm not only trying to make sense of broken English (which is understandable) but naive defensiveness and a lack of professionalism (which is slightly less understandable). If you wish to keep defending yourself, go for it, no one has judged guilt in you except for CB - we're just trying to find out what that guilt is. If you actually want to figure out why you are guilty in their eyes, feel free to let us know.

 

[gudheadt]

Prior bans/suspensions/warnings absolutely have everything to do with this situation! It's basically a criminal record!

okay prior ban includes, first time on cam, they did it because i where not verified. then i got verified, and then that happend, with the other person on cam, and then now this.

and im sorry if it sounds like im defending my self that where not the meaning lol but just trying to explain stuff. and yeah i know my english is really broken, but should be readable? dunno lol