Ban Bossy? Really???

[Sevrin]

I wouldn't mention a "creator" and "freedom of speech" together. There's no mention of "freedom of speech" in any scripture of any major religion. Freedom of speech is a humanist concept, as are rights generally. There's no bill of rights in the Bible, for instance. "Freedom of speech" also implies a freedom to blaspheme, which most religions kind of frown on.

But there is mention of it in the Declaration of Independence.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Considering who wrote the Declaration of Independence, they could have put Flying Spaghetti Monster in there and it would have carried the same weight.

 

[JickyJuly]

I wouldn't mention a "creator" and "freedom of speech" together. There's no mention of "freedom of speech" in any scripture of any major religion. Freedom of speech is a humanist concept, as are rights generally. There's no bill of rights in the Bible, for instance. "Freedom of speech" also implies a freedom to blaspheme, which most religions kind of frown on.

But there is mention of it in the Declaration of Independence.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

It also says MEN. :lol:

 

[Bocefish]

As laughable as the attempt to ban the word bossy is, the overall message is a good one.

The way they went about doing it got everyone's attention and talking about it... so I would consider it an overall success. :thumbleft:

 

[Sevrin]

I wouldn't mention a "creator" and "freedom of speech" together. There's no mention of "freedom of speech" in any scripture of any major religion. Freedom of speech is a humanist concept, as are rights generally. There's no bill of rights in the Bible, for instance. "Freedom of speech" also implies a freedom to blaspheme, which most religions kind of frown on.

But there is mention of it in the Declaration of Independence.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

It also says MEN. :lol:

Settle down, honey.

 

[LioraVox]

Its not like there hasn't been other campaign's to "ban" a word/phrase. I think its a good thing that Beyonce is involved too. Wether she is a feminist by your standards or not, she still does some pretty good PR work. Beyonce is a very wealthy woman, that at one point took her career into her own hands and has done the things she has wanted to do. Do you think she got there without being called bossy? Of course not, she continued with her dreams and goals. That is a perfect example to little girls.

Her being married to Jay-Z, and him using the term "bitch" in his music has nothing to do with what she does in her line of work.

Edited to say. That I think its irrational behavior for people to get worked up over a ban of a word but to not get worked up over being allowed to petition to ban people.

Damn social media.

 

[JickyJuly]

I wouldn't mention a "creator" and "freedom of speech" together. There's no mention of "freedom of speech" in any scripture of any major religion. Freedom of speech is a humanist concept, as are rights generally. There's no bill of rights in the Bible, for instance. "Freedom of speech" also implies a freedom to blaspheme, which most religions kind of frown on.

But there is mention of it in the Declaration of Independence.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

It also says MEN. :lol:

Settle down, honey.

*kicks off shoes and trots back to the kitchen already pregnant*
:lol:

 

[Brad]

6 time NASCAR champ Jimmie Johnson supports this and this morning on Twitter some dope called him a commie and wussy for doing so. This is not so much about the actual banning of the word as it is a concept that uses the banning of bossy as it's example of improper attitudes towards females as opposed to males. I guess they haven't done a good enough job of explaining this yet from reading some of the responses here. Maybe it is easier to use the old example of a promiscuous girl is called a slut but a promiscuous boy is called a stud. Pretty much the same concept just worded differently. I think it's a fine idea as there is still a large divide in gender pay in the workforce. The main point is this is trying to encourage girls to lead. Now what's wrong with that?
:dontknow:

I'm probably not explaining it very well either so here's the website.

http://banbossy.com/

 

[Poker_Babe]

This sounds like some tin-foil hat business right here.

 

[Anonymous]

That is very possibly the best response in the world. I may not agree with your views but damn girl, rock it!!!
:lol:

 

[Bocefish]

This sounds like some tin-foil hat business right here.

Just FYI and others... copper is the new tin-foil material. It fends off overhead biological bacterial rays far better than tinfoil. Just sayin'.

 

[Poker_Babe]

Just FYI and others... copper is the new tin-foil material. It fends off overhead biological bacterial rays far better than tinfoil. Just sayin'.

That's what they want you to think. Trying to trick us into taking off our protective gear, thus being able to catch us off guard for the attack. It's a conspiracy I tell ya, one big conspiracy!

 

[Bocefish]

Tried these for a while, but they obviously didn't work.

 

[Poker_Babe]

Because those are suppose to be covering your other head.

 

[schlmoe]

This showed up on my Google News page this morning:

Sheryl Sandberg wrong on 'bossy' ban
snip...But while Sandberg isn't wrong that "bossy" is disproportionately directed at girls and women, and usually with negative connotations, the problem isn't the word itself, but how and when the word is used. Ban "bossy" and other words will spring up in its place: "Bitchy," "cold" and "aggressive" come to mind.

Instead, the focus should be on how to reclaim the positive and indispensable nature of "bossiness," turning it from a word used to describe the domineering and unlikable to one used to describe those very necessary qualities for those who lead.
Sheryl Sandberg is bossy, and it's a quality that likely played a pretty key role in helping her become one of the technology industry's most successful women. So, how about an initiative to reclaim bossiness as a point of pride?

Bosses are bossy, plain and simple. As Sandberg even notes: "...if you look at my childhood, if you look at the childhood of most of the leaders we talked to, they lived through being told they were bossy." And, well, look where they are now...

If you want to read the entire opinion piece (and to verify I didn't take anything out of context), it can be found here: http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/11/opinion/d ... erg-bossy/

About the author: Editor's note: Peggy Drexler is the author of "Our Fathers, Ourselves: Daughters, Fathers, and the Changing American Family" and "Raising Boys Without Men." She is an assistant professor of psychology at Weill Cornell Medical College of Cornell University and a former gender scholar at Stanford University. Join her on Facebook and follow her on Twitter @drpeggydrexler.

Author's homepage: http://www.peggydrexler.com/

 

[schlmoe]

Uh-oh, now it's Beyonce's turn in the hot seat:

Beyonce, what have you done?

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/12/opinion/g ... del-video/

There are two Web clips featuring Beyonce that have been getting a lot of attention.
Clip No. 1 features a host of celebrities and community leaders, including Bey, involved with a movement trying to ban the use of the word "bossy" in reference to young girls. The reason being that "bossy" is often used in a derogatory way to describe girls who display leadership traits, thus discouraging them from asserting themselves. "I'm not bossy, I'm the boss," the superstar says.

Clip No. 2 features Beyonce wearing a bedazzled thong and not much else, as she sings about ejaculate landing on her dress after performing oral sex in the back of a limo.
"I just want to be the girl you like," she pleads to her husband, Jay-Z, in the "Partition" video, the second single from her latest release, "Beyonce."

 

[mynameisbob84]

Uh-oh, now it's Beyonce's turn in the hot seat:

Beyonce, what have you done?

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/12/opinion/g ... del-video/

There are two Web clips featuring Beyonce that have been getting a lot of attention.
Clip No. 1 features a host of celebrities and community leaders, including Bey, involved with a movement trying to ban the use of the word "bossy" in reference to young girls. The reason being that "bossy" is often used in a derogatory way to describe girls who display leadership traits, thus discouraging them from asserting themselves. "I'm not bossy, I'm the boss," the superstar says.

Clip No. 2 features Beyonce wearing a bedazzled thong and not much else, as she sings about ejaculate landing on her dress after performing oral sex in the back of a limo.
"I just want to be the girl you like," she pleads to her husband, Jay-Z, in the "Partition" video, the second single from her latest release, "Beyonce."

I don't think being an assertive female means you can't give your husband a blowie or that you somehow aren't allowed to want to be loved by him, yo

 

[Rose]

Uh-oh, now it's Beyonce's turn in the hot seat:

Beyonce, what have you done?

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/12/opinion/g ... del-video/

There are two Web clips featuring Beyonce that have been getting a lot of attention.
Clip No. 1 features a host of celebrities and community leaders, including Bey, involved with a movement trying to ban the use of the word "bossy" in reference to young girls. The reason being that "bossy" is often used in a derogatory way to describe girls who display leadership traits, thus discouraging them from asserting themselves. "I'm not bossy, I'm the boss," the superstar says.

Clip No. 2 features Beyonce wearing a bedazzled thong and not much else, as she sings about ejaculate landing on her dress after performing oral sex in the back of a limo.
"I just want to be the girl you like," she pleads to her husband, Jay-Z, in the "Partition" video, the second single from her latest release, "Beyonce."

I don't think being an assertive female means you can't give your husband a blowie or that you somehow aren't allowed to want to be loved by him, yo

If anything it means we can give them when we please and can initiate instead of being asked for them. :twocents-02cents:

 

[Bocefish]

The more I think about this, the more I believe this is also one of those "female things." I say that because I've never heard a guy call a girl bossy. If a young girl wanted to hang with the boys, play sports, assert herself in those activities, make group decisions... we considered her a tomboy but usually never said that to her. The only people I've ever considered bossy were the ones who fell into the definition of 'overly authoritative' regardless of gender.

:twocents-02cents:

 

[Poker_Babe]

snip...But while Sandberg isn't wrong that "bossy" is disproportionately directed at girls and women, and usually with negative connotations, the problem isn't the word itself, but how and when the word is used. Ban "bossy" and other words will spring up in its place: "Bitchy," "cold" and "aggressive" come to mind.

Instead, the focus should be on how to reclaim the positive and indispensable nature of "bossiness," turning it from a word used to describe the domineering and unlikable to one used to describe those very necessary qualities for those who lead.
Sheryl Sandberg is bossy, and it's a quality that likely played a pretty key role in helping her become one of the technology industry's most successful women. So, how about an initiative to reclaim bossiness as a point of pride?

Bosses are bossy, plain and simple. As Sandberg even notes: "...if you look at my childhood, if you look at the childhood of most of the leaders we talked to, they lived through being told they were bossy." And, well, look where they are now...

^^^This^^^

 

[Courtneypage]

Has anyone else seen this new campaign to ban the word "bossy"? I mean really, I feel like I'm in an episode of the Twilight Zone, or in some 1984 nightmare after watching this video.




And look at who one of the supporters of this campaign is... it's Beyonce! Fucking give me a break, you're really gonna jump on this ridiculous band wagon of banning the word "bossy" while not giving 2 shits about the fact that your husband Jay-Z routinely refers to women as “bitches” and all kinds of other sexist words in his songs. But noooooooo... the word "bossy" is soooooooo damaging to the youth of our nation, that it needs to be banned.

Guys and gals, please tell me that none of you are buying into this BS. It would make me feel a whole hell of a lot better.

Omg! Seriously? That message I feel is so sad! Basically telling our female youth to grow up not ruffling any feathers and just get to your success any way possible that doesn't upset those around you! THAT'S BOLOGNA HOMEY! Great, so let's raise a generation of passive aggressive woman.


And you know damn well Beyonce be BOSSY! Divas aren't bossy?

:snooty:

 

[Bocefish]

And you know damn well Beyonce be BOSSY! Divas aren't bossy?

:snooty:

I don't give a rat's ass how much money a person makes or what their so-called diva status may be... it's not right to treat anyone like shit just because they managed to be successful.

 

[Courtneypage]

And you know damn well Beyonce be BOSSY! Divas aren't bossy?

:snooty:

I don't give a rat's ass how much money a person makes or what their so-called diva status may be... it's not right to treat anyone like shit just because they managed to be successful.

Nobody should have to take shit from anyone but its much more likely that the average person would call a bossy woman a bitch and a bossy man ASSERTIVE. That message is directly solely at females.

 

[Bocefish]

And you know damn well Beyonce be BOSSY! Divas aren't bossy?

:snooty:

I don't give a rat's ass how much money a person makes or what their so-called diva status may be... it's not right to treat anyone like shit just because they managed to be successful.

Nobody should have to take shit from anyone but its much more likely that the average person would call a bossy woman a bitch and a bossy man ASSERTIVE. That message is directly solely at females.

Although I do find it hard to distinguish sometimes between the words bitch and diva when JLO from the block demands her sheets be a thread count over 1200 while traveling or some other shit like that.

:twocents-02cents:

 

[Courtneypage]

 

[Bocefish]

You can keep all that money makin' playa shit up in harlem AFAIC.

What message does that send?

 

[Courtneypage]

You can keep all that money makin' playa shit up in harlem AFAIC.

What message does that send?

It sends the message that you know what you’re doing, and you’re not afraid to tell others what to do. You know what that sounds like to me? A leader.

 

[Bocefish]

It sends the message that you know what you’re doing, and you’re not afraid to tell others what to do. You know what that sounds like to me? A leader.

What is the woman in that video telling other women to do?

 

[Courtneypage]

It sends the message that you know what you’re doing, and you’re not afraid to tell others what to do. You know what that sounds like to me? A leader.

What is the woman in that video telling other women to do?

She's telling them to step their game up. Like her.

I'm bossy
I'm the first girl to scream on a track
I switched up the beat of the drum
That's right, I brought all the boys to the yard
And that's right, I'm the one that's tattooed on his arm
I'm bossy
I'm the bitch you love to hate
I'm the chick that's raised the stake​

 

[Bocefish]

Sounds like survival tactics of the finest current pussy available willing to put out to me, while telling other bitches to back off. I wouldn't consider that leadership.

It's so different how we interpreted that.

Thanks for educating me on your point of view. I would have never thought that video to be a positive message for women. :dontknow:

 

[tomboytoy]

Clearly this is Kelis' fault:

Dammit, you beat me to it. Someday I'll be as wonderful as Kelis.