Are Onlyfans Subs mostly cheapskates?

[squirtalot]

My rate is $10. And 2 months in, I've uploaded almost 30 videos plus the same amount of photos too. It's a mix of nude and non nude stuff. I don't do ads, my DMs are all free and so far I've only sent out 2 paid video messages.

I had one sub who, after 3 days of not posting content, dared to send me a DM saying something passive aggressive about it. He was restricted immediately. Jerk.

Today however I decided to upload a 15min spy show recording since I didn't feel like filming content. A sub DMs me saying that his subscription is ending and he wasn't planning on renewing unless I "upload more masturbation videos like this at LEAST once a week " and then he'd stay.

Like wtf?? This was a pay per minute soy show and I usually reserve these to be sold as "Premium videos" because they're Hardcore. But this guy wants all of this and more for $10 a month...

I'd really like both models and viewers perspectives on this. I also see where he's coming from. More hardcore content will retain more subs but then who's going to purchase the premiums?

 

[Nigerian Prince]

Just be upfront about the content and frequency when advertising, and if someone suscribes knowing that and doesn't like what they get that's on them.

 

[squirtalot]

Just be upfront about the content and frequency when advertising, and if someone suscribes knowing that and doesn't like what they get that's on them.

What I do is sometimes I post a bunch one day, take a break for a few days and then post another bunch. At other times, I post 1 piece every day for a few days then take a break.
On my profile the number of photos and videos respectively, are visible. So a viewer can decide based on this.
I personally don't want to commit myself to x number of videos / photos a week because this has failed me gloriously in the past and it makes me feel pressured to hit a deadline which gives me unnecessary stress and anxiety about the whole thing.

 

[Deleted member 37064]

Like anything, there will be both ends of the spectrum. Some people will be extremely cheap, while others will be supportive and tip additional.

You won’t please everyone. Just do what you feel is appropriate. One or two people complaining isn’t terrible. But, be aware of trends and keep note of things in case it becomes more commonplace. Then you’ll need to re-evaluate.

 

[yummybrownfox]

My rate is $10. And 2 months in, I've uploaded almost 30 videos plus the same amount of photos too. It's a mix of nude and non nude stuff. I don't do ads, my DMs are all free and so far I've only sent out 2 paid video messages.

I had one sub who, after 3 days of not posting content, dared to send me a DM saying something passive aggressive about it. He was restricted immediately. Jerk.

Today however I decided to upload a 15min spy show recording since I didn't feel like filming content. A sub DMs me saying that his subscription is ending and he wasn't planning on renewing unless I "upload more masturbation videos like this at LEAST once a week " and then he'd stay.

Like wtf?? This was a pay per minute soy show and I usually reserve these to be sold as "Premium videos" because they're Hardcore. But this guy wants all of this and more for $10 a month...

I'd really like both models and viewers perspectives on this. I also see where he's coming from. More hardcore content will retain more subs but then who's going to purchase the premiums?

See, that b.s. is exactly why I decided to, like some other models, make mine a free subscription to where the guys can just pay for the pics or vids they want to see. I don't want people paying a monthly rate, and then expecting new stuff DAILY, and having a temper tantrum ("Scammer! I want my money back!") because 2-3 days have gone by without a new post.

I also decided to do things this way, because I don't like the idea of dudes spending $5-$10/month to have access to ALL your sexy pics and vids that you've put all those hours into creating.

 

[melanieoncam]

See, that b.s. is exactly why I decided to, like some other models, make mine a free subscription to where the guys can just pay for the pics or vids they want to see. I don't want people paying a monthly rate, and then expecting new stuff DAILY, and having a temper tantrum ("Scammer! I want my money back!") because 2-3 days have gone by without a new post.

I also decided to do things this way, because I don't like the idea of dudes spending $5-$10/month to have access to ALL your sexy pics and vids that you've put all those hours into creating.

This is what I do also. The only thing free is sexypreviews of my videos (no nudity in the preview, only in the paid vid) and non-nude pics. Everything else is in a paid post or a pay to view post.

I still get tips, plus this frees me up to not feel obligated to post every day since they are not being charged monthly. I post when I have time. It's been a great way to interact with my fans yet still not feel pressured to keep up with posting things that may just get pirated. Also prevents guys joining, downloading all my content then unsubsribing.

 

[Mila_]

The quality of your OF subscribers will depend on the quality of your own following. There is no such a thing as an OF public considering they don’t have a homepage or index with models listed in it so each model brings their own following to the table. If your followers have been cultivated by yourself then expect them to be as stingy or as generous as they generally are toward you, if you are one of those models who relies on doing cross promotion or buying paid spots on other models OF timelines then the average quality of your subs will drop because you are filling it up with people who don’t know you and just wanna know what’s up so they are less likely to spend on your content. Personally? My OF subscribers are more generous than my cam followers in terms of the average spending per user (which is VERY generous) but less generous in terms of giving “just because” tips which makes sense since it’s a content site

 

[Makko]

I've cancelled my onlyfans to my favorite model. I didn't like to do it, cause I really like her, but there are just too many drawbacks. First of all, with now added VAT, the price just got too high.
The main reason is that the videos can't be downloaded. I like to own the videos so I can watch them on my TV and sometimes edit out some uninteresting parts. Yes, I knew this when I joined, but hoped to find some exclusive stuff not available on her share/manyvids. There was some but it was a very small part of the entire collection. Also some of the things on Onlyfans was also posted in her snap which I follow.

I agree with OP, that was just rude. But a lot of people are low on money right now and though not an excuse, many people are searching for cheaper things.

 

[Deleted member 37064]

I've cancelled my onlyfans to my favorite model. I didn't like to do it, cause I really like her, but there are just too many drawbacks. First of all, with now added VAT, the price just got too high.
The main reason is that the videos can't be downloaded. I like to own the videos so I can watch them on my TV and sometimes edit out some uninteresting parts. Yes, I knew this when I joined, but hoped to find some exclusive stuff not available on her share/manyvids. There was some but it was a very small part of the entire collection. Also some of the things on Onlyfans was also posted in her snap which I follow.

I agree with OP, that was just rude. But a lot of people are low on money right now and though not an excuse, many people are searching for cheaper things.

I'd say it's up to the individual user to make the decision on where their price point is and if VAT impacts that, so be it. As I mentioned in the other thread, people should always consider tax on top of purchases just as they would at a physical store. Same with how much is too much on regular purchases such as a name brand vs store brand item. Just that Only Fans is a relatively new platform for so many that it's something new to consider.

As to videos, there are ways to download them same as there are ways to save the pictures. Not as easy as right-click, save. But, it's also not that difficult. Just a bit cumbersome.

As to the model posting some OF content on Snapchat, depending on the intent and the amount, it may not be an issue. If it was to post a short clip as a self advertisement on Snap, okay. If it's on very rare occasion, I wouldn't even mind as if someone sees and asks her to post more, she can point them to her OF page as a subscription. But, if it's relatively frequent, then might have issues. I think each platform should have a vast majority of it's own content as there's many members who subscribe to multiple platforms of the same model.

 

[LaceyRoyce]

What I do is sometimes I post a bunch one day, take a break for a few days and then post another bunch. At other times, I post 1 piece every day for a few days then take a break.
On my profile the number of photos and videos respectively, are visible. So a viewer can decide based on this.
I personally don't want to commit myself to x number of videos / photos a week because this has failed me gloriously in the past and it makes me feel pressured to hit a deadline which gives me unnecessary stress and anxiety about the whole thing.

Suggestion .. next time u have a bunch to post, post one today and schedule the rest to drop every day or other day. I haev my onlyfans scheduled over a month in advance. I add stuff as i feel but that way i know there will be SOMETHING ON MY FEED every day. Sometimes its old video gifs, video previews or stills. You'll make more $$ drip feeding than dropping in bunches

 

[evie19]

You mean 30 videos like in full lenght videos? In my opinion that is way too much for a price of 10, I have a similar price and I think I only had 2 full videos there, one of which was more softcore. There are always gonna be people who demand a lot even if they pay only 10 dollars which is cheap... I advertise I'm uploading short clips so the guys can have an idea what to expect.

 

[ViviDoll]

If you don't have a large following, not top 20 on mfc. I don't think you can make a living just from onlyfans.. Itt's good when you have larger following etc. Unless it's hard work to promote and etc.

 

[AussieCosplay]

I started OnlyFans prior to camming.
At first I didn't even go full nude!
Further down the track and I was noticing that a large amount of subs would only be there for one month and basically wanted the full backlog of content for $7.50. Which wasn't fair on those who stayed.
So I raised the price to $13, lost half my followers and had to build back up. The higher price attracted better quality people.
I also split my content, professional shoots and teasers on main feed.
A private message each day or so with nude pictures or videos.
Occasionally a PPV.
This way they have to stay subscribed to see them all.

 

[AmberCutie]

So I raised the price to $13, lost half my followers and had to build back up. The higher price attracted better quality people.

I think that's a great point to make. I think my price point keeps the cheapskates and idiots to a minimum. Regular price is $12 but sales a couple times a month can go down to $9 for a few days at a time. I couldn't justify pricing my page any lower since I post majority of my content right on the timeline.

 

[Makko]

I'd say it's up to the individual user to make the decision on where their price point is and if VAT impacts that, so be it. As I mentioned in the other thread, people should always consider tax on top of purchases just as they would at a physical store. Same with how much is too much on regular purchases such as a name brand vs store brand item. Just that Only Fans is a relatively new platform for so many that it's something new to consider.

As to videos, there are ways to download them same as there are ways to save the pictures. Not as easy as right-click, save. But, it's also not that difficult. Just a bit cumbersome.

To clarify. I didn't wanted to sound like a cheapskate myself, but this girl I'm talking about; Her Onlyfans is 25 dollar and with taxes, it comes close to 30 Euros. She does have an enormous amount of stuff on there, but most of that, I already bought from her MFC Share.
Also, I do know how to download restricted movies. I sometimes use it to download specific music videos from Youtube like remixes/Mashups etc that can't be bought anywhere.
So yes, I could do that, but it would feel wrong as it was never intended by the model to be downloaded.

 

[CheeseMoon]

Her Onlyfans is 25 dollar and with taxes, it comes close to 30 Euros.

We all want value for our money. You may not be a cheapskate, but you are still - unintentionally, maybe - haggling.
I have no problem leaving "my" stuff online instead of downloading it. I would probably just move it somewhere else in the cloud anyway ...

 

[Deleted member 45270]

If you don't have a large following, not top 20 on mfc. I don't think you can make a living just from onlyfans.. It's good when you have larger following etc. Unless it's hard work to promote and etc.

I don't think this is necessarily true, especially considering some of the top creators (Savannah Solo to name one) didn't have a following before onlyfans afaik. I think onlyfans can be a lucrative income for most, even those who started with little/nothing.
I might have a few hundred thousand views on tube sites, but this hasn't impacted my twitter much (which was about 800 I think when I started OF?). I still consider myself relatively small/unknown.

Promoing myself on reddit and posting daily is what got me from 100ish to 300 followers in about 1.5 months before I started paying for OF promos. So I'm from 100ish to now 400 in 2 months, and I still feel far from my realistic potential. It's definitely possible (not guaranteed) to go from a nobody to a top creator - just harder, as you said, but the results are worth it. As 5-10 new subs a day adds up quickly, just one hour of spam promo a day on subreddits had a huge impact on me, and it could have a huge impact on you, too.


As for OP, I think paywall sites like onlyfans will naturally bring people expecting to pay less for more. It's your page, you decide how it's run. Some people don't do nudity on OF, and, just like on camsites, it can work for some, but not all.
However, I think the "cheapness" may work in our favour, and may be why so many people with little/no following have been able to do well on onlyfans: it's easier to market something costing $5 a month than $5 a minute.

 

[Deleted member 37064]

To clarify. I didn't wanted to sound like a cheapskate myself, but this girl I'm talking about; Her Onlyfans is 25 dollar and with taxes, it comes close to 30 Euros. She does have an enormous amount of stuff on there, but most of that, I already bought from her MFC Share.
Also, I do know how to download restricted movies. I sometimes use it to download specific music videos from Youtube like remixes/Mashups etc that can't be bought anywhere.
So yes, I could do that, but it would feel wrong as it was never intended by the model to be downloaded.

It's all good, and I didn't mean it to sound like I was getting down on you for it. Was my way of saying that $10 to one person might be $0.10, while it might be $100 to another. Only we can say what's too expensive for ourselves. Though, I will say that $25/month for OnlyFans subscriptions is definitely one of the higher ones I've seen.

If it's content that is elsewhere, then I wouldn't stay subscribed either.

As to downloading online content, do you download and keep things from MFC? Or, do you leave it up there? I'm one who downloads and retains local copies for offline viewing. And I don't feel bad for it because it's purchased content. I've had more than a few models delete content off of MFCShare after I've purchased it, including one who removed all content very shortly after I purchased all of hers (well over 100 vids/albums) and before I could view all of it. Without notice. Just one of the many reasons I no longer talk with that particular model.

OnlyFans is slightly different. But, IMO, we're still paying for content and as long as it's kept for individual use, then I see nothing wrong with saving a few pics/vids here or there. Especially if it's one that may really like.

 

[Deleted member 45270]

But, IMO, we're still paying for content and as long as it's kept for individual use, then I see nothing wrong with saving a few pics/vids here or there.

I've always felt this way too, and am totally fine with screenshots or recordings of onlyfans/private shows/whatever, so long as they're for private use. Obviously some people are going to try and ruin it for everybody, but that's always going to be a thing, with or without my say-so.

But not everyone is going to feel this way, and its their right to decide what people can and can't do with their content, which is why it would be best for everybody to allow the creator to have an optional download feature in the same way that we can put optional price tags on our content. Hell, why not go the pornhub route and optionally charge for downloads?
I'm sure this would make more creators happy with the power to decide and make it clear what's allowed and what isn't - and maybe even earn a little more in their bottom line.

 

[AmberCutie]

If it's content that is elsewhere, then I wouldn't stay subscribed either.

If it's "for sale" on another site (say Share) but included in the timeline on Onlyfans... I see no problem with that, right? Or if a model has the same videos for sale on both?

OnlyFans is slightly different. But, IMO, we're still paying for content and as long as it's kept for individual use, then I see nothing wrong with saving a few pics/vids here or there. Especially if it's one that may really like.

I specifically price my videos differently on OF because they aren't (as easily) downloadable. Wondering if others do the same, and if so, if they'd feel slighted at this.

 

[Deleted member 37064]

I've always felt this way too, and am totally fine with screenshots or recordings of onlyfans/private shows/whatever, so long as they're for private use. Obviously some people are going to try and ruin it for everybody, but that's always going to be a thing, with or without my say-so.

But not everyone is going to feel this way, and its their right to decide what people can and can't do with their content, which is why it would be best for everybody to allow the creator to have an optional download feature in the same way that we can put optional price tags on our content. Hell, why not go the pornhub route and optionally charge for downloads?
I'm sure this would make more creators happy with the power to decide and make it clear what's allowed and what isn't - and maybe even earn a little more in their bottom line.

When I download, it's only for personal use, and not shared/giveaway. Like you said, people will try and share/co-op it with others via trade, free, etc. That happens with music and big movies also.

I'm not familiar with PH, as haven't visited the site in years. But, have no issues with purchasable downloads. Was going to mention it in my previous post, as it's similar to movies one can purchase off of Netflix, Prime, Google Play, etc. where it may come free with the subscription and can download it to watch with a certain time. Or buy it outright which one can access any time online. IIRC, permanent downloads work too. But, haven't tried yet.

Where I have doubts on that though is the content providers mentioned above will very likely be around for 15-20 years at a minimum. Models on OnlyFans, MFC, etc. most likely won't and will at some point delete their content. So, if I purchased it, then it comes back to the "Can I still access it online?" via my account question if they decide to leave?

To make it even more complicated, it then moves into the realm of who has the right to the media? Yes, the content creator/distributor may own the copyright and distribution rights. But, if it is a purchasable item, then the buyer has the right to do what they want with it so long as it doesn't violate copyright laws. In the case of physical media (CD/DVD/Blueray), one may retain the original media for as long as they wish, and they even have the legal right to make a backup copy of it. When it comes to purchased online content, it either needs to be 100% downloadable. Or, it is implied that it shall be available indefinitely to the original purchaser.

If it's "for sale" on another site (say Share) but included in the timeline on Onlyfans... I see no problem with that, right? Or if a model has the same videos for sale on both?

How I meant that was if a model puts the exact same content for sale on MFCShare, MV, C4S, or other clip sites, no problem. It's a one time purchasable content. But, in the case of OnlyFans, where it's a monthly subscription service and that exact same content is found on a one-time purchase site, I don't see the value of OnlyFans. Especially when there wouldn't be any new, unique content on OnlyFans. Now, if it's a free subscription and you can purchase them, then it'd be similar to C4S, etc.

Though, the question then come up, what is the "life" of the video on OnlyFans and if it can be downloaded. Which, if it can't, I'd rather buy it elsewhere and have the ability to download it with a link instead of having to use work around methods of doing it.

If you want to look at this from a more vanilla perspective, then the argument is what's the benefit of having Netflix and Amazon Prime at the same time? They both offer mostly the same content, yet they both now offer unique content not available elsewhere. So, it comes down to which gives the better value and which tends to align more with your needs/wants.

I specifically price my videos differently on OF because they aren't (as easily) downloadable. Wondering if others do the same, and if so, if they'd feel slighted at this.

Or, do they even realize that it's not easily downloadable compared to other sites if they use them? Not to sound negative/derogatory. But, there are content providers who really don't have much of a clue of what other sites can/do offer. Granted, this comes with experience, and relies on them doing research here, or elsewhere on differences. But, there's other variables than just price differences.

 

[Deleted member 45270]

I specifically price my videos differently on OF because they aren't (as easily) downloadable.

I discount my videos on OF, although not for the fact that they aren't download able, just as a special thank you for staying subscribed/incentive for subscribing in the first place. Although I do think it's a fair deal to discount them for your reason, now that I think about it.

I just wish OF would make it downloadable on an optional basis, it would save people a lot of effort from making unlisted mfcshare albums, dropboxes and whatnot. Leo pls

 

[Makko]

As to downloading online content, do you download and keep things from MFC? Or, do you leave it up there?

I think you mean MFC Share? I only buy if it's downloadable. Don't want to run the risk if it's suddenly taken offline and as I said, I want to watch it on my TV.
But yes Onlyfans... If there would be a download option for let's say half price what's charged on other sites, then I would have no problem of paying 25 dollar+taxes.

 

[LaceyRoyce]

If it's "for sale" on another site (say Share) but included in the timeline on Onlyfans... I see no problem with that, right? Or if a model has the same videos for sale on both?

I specifically price my videos differently on OF because they aren't (as easily) downloadable. Wondering if others do the same, and if so, if they'd feel slighted at this.

Yeah i offer ppv discounts specifically because they're stream only. I'm not naive i know ppl can download eadily but, if someone is downloading then they need to pay the extra or purchase on any of my clip sites to download. Or even just ask for a downloadable price.. I'd dm a dropbox file. I'd feel slighted too

 

[Shaun__]

I have no problem paying for adult entertainment, but I have never had a good experience on onlyfans the three times I have tried it.

The problem is you have no previews, all you get is a vague text description. Even it you know the model is gorgeous, funny, smart, and everything else you don't know if you are buying access to a lot of foot fetish stuff until you put down money. That is what happened to me the first time I subscribed to someone, she had cute feet but I don't find feet any more sexual than an elbow. I am sure she knew what her audience wanted, and she filled her feed with that( 40 to 50 percent feet the rest regular pictures and short unedited videos. I looked at it and saw nothing worth staying subbed for so I left.

I saw another model advertising a video in a cute demon succubus cosplay, and unable to find it on MFCshare or manyvids I went back to onlyfans to find it. It was an older video and looking at a bunch of pictures of locks did me zero good, and I gave up.

The third time I was on r/all and saw a cute cosplayer with an onlyfans, and since I am not that bright I trusted her description of a package of pictures for sell. This time was all my fault, and being on onlyfans was just a coincidence.

In the end I decided the problem is that I am too picky about my entertainment and should just stay away from the place.

 

[AmberCutie]

I have no problem paying for adult entertainment, but I have never had a good experience on onlyfans the three times I have tried it.

The problem is you have no previews, all you get is a vague text description. Even it you know the model is gorgeous, funny, smart, and everything else you don't know if you are buying access to a lot of foot fetish stuff until you put down money. That is what happened to me the first time I subscribed to someone, she had cute feet but I don't find feet any more sexual than an elbow. I am sure she knew what her audience wanted, and she filled her feed with that( 40 to 50 percent feet the rest regular pictures and short unedited videos. I looked at it and saw nothing worth staying subbed for so I left.

I saw another model advertising a video in a cute demon succubus cosplay, and unable to find it on MFCshare or manyvids I went back to onlyfans to find it. It was an older video and looking at a bunch of pictures of locks did me zero good, and I gave up.

The third time I was on r/all and saw a cute cosplayer with an onlyfans, and since I am not that bright I trusted her description of a package of pictures for sell. This time was all my fault, and being on onlyfans was just a coincidence.

In the end I decided the problem is that I am too picky about my entertainment and should just stay away from the place.

From your information, it sounds like you'd only be served properly by a model's Onlyfans if you were already a fan of hers and knew her content style.

 

[melanieoncam]

I have no problem paying for adult entertainment, but I have never had a good experience on onlyfans the three times I have tried it.

The problem is you have no previews, all you get is a vague text description. Even it you know the model is gorgeous, funny, smart, and everything else you don't know if you are buying access to a lot of foot fetish stuff until you put down money. That is what happened to me the first time I subscribed to someone, she had cute feet but I don't find feet any more sexual than an elbow. I am sure she knew what her audience wanted, and she filled her feed with that( 40 to 50 percent feet the rest regular pictures and short unedited videos. I looked at it and saw nothing worth staying subbed for so I left.

I saw another model advertising a video in a cute demon succubus cosplay, and unable to find it on MFCshare or manyvids I went back to onlyfans to find it. It was an older video and looking at a bunch of pictures of locks did me zero good, and I gave up.

The third time I was on r/all and saw a cute cosplayer with an onlyfans, and since I am not that bright I trusted her description of a package of pictures for sell. This time was all my fault, and being on onlyfans was just a coincidence.

In the end I decided the problem is that I am too picky about my entertainment and should just stay away from the place.

I actually feel the same way about the pictures of locks and I brought this up with OnlyFans. I hope they tweak that some.

Nobody can tell what vids I have for sale even with my free onlyfans because once I set a price it locks it and they don't allow me to create a preview on the same post. I've been making a separate post with a free preview but it's very clunky and annoying and messes up the look of my timeline.

There needs to be a better way to show what we are offering.

 

[Deleted member 37064]

I actually feel the same way about the pictures of locks and I brought this up with OnlyFans. I hope they tweak that some.

Nobody can tell what vids I have for sale even with my free onlyfans because once I set a price it locks it and they don't allow me to create a preview on the same post. I've been making a separate post with a free preview but it's very clunky and annoying and messes up the look of my timeline.

There needs to be a better way to show what we are offering.

This has been one of my biggest gripes about OnlyFans from the beginning. I just stick with a couple of models I know from MFC. Which hurts others because there's no real search/browse feature and then there's no way to preview content. Pretty sad since porn sites back in the 90's had a "Take a tour" preview. It didn't show a lot. But, gave an idea of what kind of content will find.

 

[kristenjade]

I actually feel the same way about the pictures of locks and I brought this up with OnlyFans. I hope they tweak that some.

Nobody can tell what vids I have for sale even with my free onlyfans because once I set a price it locks it and they don't allow me to create a preview on the same post. I've been making a separate post with a free preview but it's very clunky and annoying and messes up the look of my timeline.

There needs to be a better way to show what we are offering.

You can 100% have a preview and a locked vid in the same post on free. Just upload both to thee same post, click the little arrow buttons, and move the preview to the free section.

 

[melanieoncam]

You can 100% have a preview and a locked vid in the same post on free. Just upload both to thee same post, click the little arrow buttons, and move the preview to the free section.

Oh nice. I tried to get it to work but it seemed to glitch. I'll try that, thank you!