Any App That Lets Me Send Tokens to Model Directly?

[Smores]

Is there an app that works on Android and iOS that would let me send something analogous to tokens to a model without involving any specific cam site? It seems like such an incredibly obvious idea. Someone must have done this? I realize cryptocurrency could fill part of that need, but there are per-transaction fees and many cryptos are just a hassle for the model.

 

[Deleted member 37064]

Is there an app that works on Android and iOS that would let me send something analogous to tokens to a model without involving any specific cam site? It seems like such an incredibly obvious idea. Someone must have done this? I realize cryptocurrency could fill part of that need, but there are per-transaction fees and many cryptos are just a hassle for the model.

My guess is, no. Most likely it is each camsite has their own value of tokens, as well as authentication methods. Not to mention security involved for sending to multiple platforms would be a nightmare. The most complex a program, especially when it comes to edit/change/delete across multiple platforms, it becomes a significant security risk. Even programs such as Mint, Personal Capital, etc have read only access because of security issues. This is why you can't send money from Zelle to Paypal, Venmo or pick your money transfer app.

Also, who is the purchasing authority for tokens? Let's say you want to buy $50 worth of tokens. Who do you purchase them through? Then, what if you want to send Model A on Camsite A 30 tokens but the smallest token package they sell is 100 tokens and their token value is different than what's on other camsites?

No matter if it's cryptocurrency, tokens or credit card purchase there's always a fee involved.

 

[AudriTwo]

It really leaves a bad taste in my mouth when people try to avoid the necessary fees that keep the camsites functioning which keeps the site and camodels in business. And you shouldn't encourage other models to do the same. In the end it can hurt them long-term. Taking payments on site helps the ranking and placement depending on the site, and reputation. Also could get her in trouble if it's found by the site or studio she cutting them off while poaching the traffic they have been supplying her. Getting a model to take offsite payments is not helping them in the long run. If you are using the camsite to communicate, do shows with, and whatnot, you should pay there appropriately.

If you are 100% offsite (only talking and doing shows on Skype or Whatsapp for an example), time for her to find a payment processer, aand those come with high fees too because all pornography is consider highrisk transactions. So you may think she is getting 100% but she is still getting a percentage. Camsites take on this burden because that's what it is. It's a fucking burden to deal with payment processors.

 

[Nigerian Prince]

Is there an app that works on Android and iOS that would let me send something analogous to tokens to a model without involving any specific cam site? It seems like such an incredibly obvious idea. Someone must have done this? I realize cryptocurrency could fill part of that need, but there are per-transaction fees and many cryptos are just a hassle for the model.

It's not an obvious idea because there is no financial gain for anyone to set it up, unless they take a cut, which I'm assuming is not what you are looking for? Per transaction fees on crypto are low... I paid a 2 cent fee to to move some eth yesterday. No matter what method you choose there will always be the hassle of connecting said method to a bank account to cashout. Just pay them through whatever site they are signed up with.

 

[PandoraUnchained]

I got a tipjar on my studio page. As far i checked it take about 3% for transactions. Never really received huge tips on it but I appreciate that members took their time to go tipping on an external page (and free self promotion for me there)

I'm surprised by some reactions. I never had any problem to gave a 50% to my studio for real support, but calling most plateforms fees "maintenance fees" is totally ignoring the super profits they made....

 

[Nigerian Prince]

I'm surprised by some reactions. I never had any problem to gave a 50% to my studio for real support, but calling most plateforms fees "maintenance fees" is totally ignoring the super profits they made....

What are their profits like?

 

[PandoraUnchained]

Scary
->Laszlo Czero is the former CEO of jasmin.com and current consultant to streamate.com – two leading corporations in the field. He estimates that profits for webcam hosting sites could reach up to $3bn (£2.4bn) in 2016 alone. Cams.com executive Harry Varwijk estimates that profits yielded by webcam hosting will reach $10bn by 2020. One of the most popular webcam sites – livejasmin.com – has 40m visitors a day, and has made its founder, Gyorgi Gattyan, Hungary’s richest man.

The sex work revolution no one is willing to talk about

It gives women the opportunity to reclaim profits from the traditionally male-dominated pornography industry, but is enough being done to protect performers?

www.independent.co.uk

 

[AudriTwo]

Scary
->Laszlo Czero is the former CEO of jasmin.com and current consultant to streamate.com – two leading corporations in the field. He estimates that profits for webcam hosting sites could reach up to $3bn (£2.4bn) in 2016 alone. Cams.com executive Harry Varwijk estimates that profits yielded by webcam hosting will reach $10bn by 2020. One of the most popular webcam sites – livejasmin.com – has 40m visitors a day, and has made its founder, Gyorgi Gattyan, Hungary’s richest man.

The sex work revolution no one is willing to talk about

It gives women the opportunity to reclaim profits from the traditionally male-dominated pornography industry, but is enough being done to protect performers?

www.independent.co.uk

I'm guessing that's more so "market value" of the industry as a whole and not net profit. Lots of companies like to throw around their industry total worth. There are a lot of us bitches making lots of money. After they take out the expenses, like payout for models and affiliates, server costs, site upkeep, employee expenses, lawyers, online security, lobbyists, payment processor fees, and probably a lot more I'm not thinking, it's a lot less that isn't a number worth bragging compared to the money coming in.

Camming is very lucrative industry, but it takes a lot to run a site and keep it afloat. Sites come and go all the time because they can't failed to see how much of an expense it is to run a site, and they can't pay their models on time or they need to shut down.

 

[pleasurecamsnl]

I'm guessing that's more so "market value" of the industry as a whole and not net profit. Lots of companies like to throw around their industry total worth. There are a lot of us bitches making lots of money. After they take out the expenses, like payout for models and affiliates, server costs, site upkeep, employee expenses, lawyers, online security, lobbyists, payment processor fees, and probably a lot more I'm not thinking, it's a lot less that isn't a number worth bragging compared to the money coming in.

Camming is very lucrative industry, but it takes a lot to run a site and keep it afloat. Sites come and go all the time because they can't failed to see how much of an expense it is to run a site, and they can't pay their models on time or they need to shut down.

Yeah I think many underestimate how much it costs to build a site, and keep it running and add new features once in a while, and then a big chunk of the budget is spend on advertising.
To build and host a fairly simple site aint that hard, but to get traffic and keep advancing your site, and handle all the legal problems that undoubtedly will occur, is something a lot of sites that have tried underestimated.

 

[PandoraUnchained]

I'm guessing that's more so "market value" of the industry as a whole and not net profit. Lots of companies like to throw around their industry total worth. There are a lot of us bitches making lots of money. After they take out the expenses, like payout for models and affiliates, server costs, site upkeep, employee expenses, lawyers, online security, lobbyists, payment processor fees, and probably a lot more I'm not thinking, it's a lot less that isn't a number worth bragging compared to the money coming in.

Camming is very lucrative industry, but it takes a lot to run a site and keep it afloat. Sites come and go all the time because they can't failed to see how much of an expense it is to run a site, and they can't pay their models on time or they need to shut down.

Nope. This is profit not market value. It's written black on white (well white on grey for me). I guess the guy who is the CEO of one of the biggest sites of the world know what he's speaking about and know differences between this terms. I f you do some more research you'll find the same numbers from different sources.

Yeah there is probably nothing to brag about, like this guy who became the richest men of his county. Poor guy, he's probably crying every night dreaming about bringing the fees for models to a less scamming value, but then he see his children and wife have nothing but bread and water everyday and has to maintain the fees, heartbreaking really.

Yeah I think many underestimate how much it costs to build a site, and keep it running and add new features once in a while, and then a big chunk of the budget is spend on advertising.
To build and host a fairly simple site aint that hard, but to get traffic and keep advancing your site, and handle all the legal problems that undoubtedly will occur, is something a lot of sites that have tried underestimated.

Yeah just look at the non adult sites. Like Youtube - they have to charge....0 for their users, and take a whooping 30% from creators. And something tells me that they have incomparably more traffic then any adult site (meaning way more expenses). Poor guys, probably earning nothing.

Really, reading this I have the feeling that some people have a Stockholm syndrome toward being robbed and try to do anything to justify the unjustifiable. The whole cam industry has kept the prices from the early 00's when it was normal to pay 20-50$ for a membership on an adult site to see 5 new videos per month. Then the tubes appeared and everything changed. The webcam industry will have to evolve too, and reduce the difference of the value of a token for members and models. Through that will probably mean cheaper tokens for members, models will still win from this as it will open this sites for people who couldn't afford it before.

 

[LylacDoll]

Nope. This is profit not market value. It's written black on white (well white on grey for me). I guess the guy who is the CEO of one of the biggest sites of the world know what he's speaking about and know differences between this terms. I f you do some more research you'll find the same numbers from different sources.

Yeah there is probably nothing to brag about, like this guy who became the richest men of his county. Poor guy, he's probably crying every night dreaming about bringing the fees for models to a less scamming value, but then he see his children and wife have nothing but bread and water everyday and has to maintain the fees, heartbreaking really.



Yeah just look at the non adult sites. Like Youtube - they have to charge....0 for their users, and take a whooping 30% from creators. And something tells me that they have incomparably more traffic then any adult site (meaning way more expenses). Poor guys, probably earning nothing.

Really, reading this I have the feeling that some people have a Stockholm syndrome toward being robbed and try to do anything to justify the unjustifiable. The whole cam industry has kept the prices from the early 00's when it was normal to pay 20-50$ for a membership on an adult site to see 5 new videos per month. Then the tubes appeared and everything changed. The webcam industry will have to evolve too, and reduce the difference of the value of a token for members and models. Through that will probably mean cheaper tokens for members, models will still win from this as it will open this sites for people who couldn't afford it before.

"Laszlo Czero is the former CEO of jasmin.com and current consultant to streamate.com – two leading corporations in the field. He estimates that profits for webcam hosting sites could reach up to $3bn (£2.4bn) in 2016 alone. Cams.com executive Harry Varwijk estimates that profits yielded by webcam hosting will reach $10bn by 2020."

It's important to remember that these are estimates of what could happen. I think every CEO has a certain interest in inflating their projected numbers to a certain extent. But these are not just for one site. These are for the industry as a whole split between all of the camsites which I'm assuming includes whitelabels, which there are a ton of to split those billions of dollars between. It's a lot of money but it's considerably less than a lot of other industries. Not to mention, I wouldn't really call jasmin (which I'm guessing they meant was livejasmin) one of the leading corporations in the industry (but that's just my opinion).

Honestly though, I'm fine with people making millions off of a website that let's me do the work I want to do. I want running a camsite to be a lucrative business which lures more people in, and creates competition between sites to improve. I want people to have legitimate market interests in running camsites. Camsites provide me a service by giving me a platform with viewers to use who will watch me and a convenient way to get paid by those users. I could not do this work as a fully independent model. Some people can but I don't want to put in the legwork, so I accept that they take a cut, the owners make some money, and I get what I want out of the deal. If I didn't feel like I was getting a fair deal out of it I would find another platform to work with or go independent--it is an option I have, but one I choose not to take because I appreciate the convenience camsites provide and I'm okay if those sites get some compensation for it.

 

[AmberCutie]

Honestly though, I'm fine with people making millions off of a website that let's me do the work I want to do. I want running a camsite to be a lucrative business which lures more people in, and creates competition between sites to improve. I want people to have legitimate market interests in running camsites. Camsites provide me a service by giving me a platform with viewers to use who will watch me and a convenient way to get paid by those users. I could not do this work as a fully independent model. Some people can but I don't want to put in the legwork, so I accept that they take a cut, the owners make some money, and I get what I want out of the deal. If I didn't feel like I was getting a fair deal out of it I would find another platform to work with or go independent--it is an option I have, but one I choose not to take because I appreciate the convenience camsites provide and I'm okay if those sites get some compensation for it.

 

[pleasurecamsnl]

Nope. This is profit not market value. It's written black on white (well white on grey for me). I guess the guy who is the CEO of one of the biggest sites of the world know what he's speaking about and know differences between this terms. I f you do some more research you'll find the same numbers from different sources.

Yeah there is probably nothing to brag about, like this guy who became the richest men of his county. Poor guy, he's probably crying every night dreaming about bringing the fees for models to a less scamming value, but then he see his children and wife have nothing but bread and water everyday and has to maintain the fees, heartbreaking really.



Yeah just look at the non adult sites. Like Youtube - they have to charge....0 for their users, and take a whooping 30% from creators. And something tells me that they have incomparably more traffic then any adult site (meaning way more expenses). Poor guys, probably earning nothing.

Really, reading this I have the feeling that some people have a Stockholm syndrome toward being robbed and try to do anything to justify the unjustifiable. The whole cam industry has kept the prices from the early 00's when it was normal to pay 20-50$ for a membership on an adult site to see 5 new videos per month. Then the tubes appeared and everything changed. The webcam industry will have to evolve too, and reduce the difference of the value of a token for members and models. Through that will probably mean cheaper tokens for members, models will still win from this as it will open this sites for people who couldn't afford it before.

And they cover their expensen with advertisers. And thats a lot harder for an adult site. Brands like Mercedes, Nike etc dont want to be involved with adult, thus revenue from advertising is less for adult sites.

 

[PandoraUnchained]

"Laszlo Czero is the former CEO of jasmin.com and current consultant to streamate.com – two leading corporations in the field. He estimates that profits for webcam hosting sites could reach up to $3bn (£2.4bn) in 2016 alone. Cams.com executive Harry Varwijk estimates that profits yielded by webcam hosting will reach $10bn by 2020."

It's important to remember that these are estimates of what could happen. I think every CEO has a certain interest in inflating their projected numbers to a certain extent. But these are not just for one site. These are for the industry as a whole split between all of the camsites which I'm assuming includes whitelabels, which there are a ton of to split those billions of dollars between. It's a lot of money but it's considerably less than a lot of other industries. Not to mention, I wouldn't really call jasmin (which I'm guessing they meant was livejasmin) one of the leading corporations in the industry (but that's just my opinion).

Honestly though, I'm fine with people making millions off of a website that let's me do the work I want to do. I want running a camsite to be a lucrative business which lures more people in, and creates competition between sites to improve. I want people to have legitimate market interests in running camsites. Camsites provide me a service by giving me a platform with viewers to use who will watch me and a convenient way to get paid by those users. I could not do this work as a fully independent model. Some people can but I don't want to put in the legwork, so I accept that they take a cut, the owners make some money, and I get what I want out of the deal. If I didn't feel like I was getting a fair deal out of it I would find another platform to work with or go independent--it is an option I have, but one I choose not to take because I appreciate the convenience camsites provide and I'm okay if those sites get some compensation for it.

You'll find the same numbers into a lot of different sources. I'm just too lazy to point it here. About the numbers it's a LOT of entertainment industry. Wikipedia says "As of 2016, the money generated by camming sites was upwards of US$2 billion annually. The pornography business as a whole is estimated to be about $5 billion"

I never said that webcam platforms should do it per charity, but there is a big gap between charity and making superprofits by robbing those who make this business possible. I'm all about competition, but does it really exists? All the sites have barely the same prices for members, and the same conditions for models.

About the numbers being split between different sites - is there some much of them ? I strongly doubt that even here most of people know more then 10 sites that aren't part of the same network (Flirt/kink) or belonging to each other (ruscam/bongacam). And in any industry the biggest companies usually represent 70-90% of the market. I strongly doubt that some small regional sites have a big share of it.

According to the numbers the cam industry is making about the half of the porn industry, and there is WAY more porn producing companies then webcam companies. And they manage to make huge profits somehow, despite having more important cost, as porn models, shooting teams, shooting location rent and such are payed by the company, not by leftovers of members money. Oh and they also pay for porn start promotion instead of letting them do it themselves.

The most funny thing about that topic is that if a new sites with better condition and a big member base will finally show up, everybody will run toward it, forgetting how they defended the previous sites, so it's quite pointless to argue about it.

 

[SMuser69]

I never said that webcam platforms should do it per charity, but there is a big gap between charity and making superprofits by robbing those who make this business possible. I'm all about competition, but does it really exists? All the sites have barely the same prices for members, and the same conditions for models.

Do you like when members argue your rate or what you're worth, if not why would you do the same thing to other people? If the CEO is getting a high salary it's because they convinced the company their skills are worth that much money. It's the same as a $10/min models isn't ROBBING members because $4/min models exist at the same time. It just means the $10/min model was better able to sell the idea of value and members agree to pay it.

 

[AudriTwo]

Nope. This is profit not market value. It's written black on white (well white on grey for me). I guess the guy who is the CEO of one of the biggest sites of the world know what he's speaking about and know differences between this terms. I f you do some more research you'll find the same numbers from different sources.

i really don't think you are comprehending what you are reading. how long have you been in the industry, my dude? they are making estimates and projections and you taking it as legitimate numbers.

Really, reading this I have the feeling that some people have a Stockholm syndrome toward being robbed and try to do anything to justify the unjustifiable.

lol well that makes it very convenient to dismiss our legitimate experience and knowledge.

Question, are you a cammodel and how long have you been camming. I think we are being camsplained, lol.

 

[Deleted member 37064]

i really don't think you are comprehending what you are reading. how long have you been in the industry, my dude? they are making estimates and projections and you taking it as legitimate numbers.

It read that the reports were also at least five years old since they were estimating an upcoming 2016 year. At least that's how I read it. I haven't looked for more recent estimates. But, I think it's be interesting to see trending numbers, and the biggest unknown of how it's going to be impacted this year.

 

[AmberCutie]

i really don't think you are comprehending what you are reading. how long have you been in the industry, my dude? they are making estimates and projections and you taking it as legitimate numbers.



lol well that makes it very convenient to dismiss our legitimate experience and knowledge.

Question, are you a cammodel and how long have you been camming. I think we are being camsplained, lol.

Apparently cam model for a studio that takes 50% of income, yet is saying that camsite owners are robbing the cam models...

 

[AudriTwo]

Apparently cam model for a studio that takes 50% of income, yet is saying that camsite owners are robbing the cam models...

 

[PandoraUnchained]

i really don't think you are comprehending what you are reading. how long have you been in the industry, my dude? they are making estimates and projections and you taking it as legitimate numbers.

lol well that makes it very convenient to dismiss our legitimate experience and knowledge.

Question, are you a cammodel and how long have you been camming. I think we are being camsplained, lol.

Lol was pointing especially at you when I was when I wrote about the syndrome Stockholm. First you made some imaginary assertions about adult transactions being dangerous to handle (Is life great in the 90's? Or did you never tried to register on a site as a member to ignoring that all payments are handled by Visa/Mastercard and proceed by standard payment protocols used by non adult sites since like...10years), then you tried to modify the numbers I gave arguing that it was market value rather then profit. Lol seriously, I have no interest to continue to argue with somebody with such a twisted vision of reality.

Apparently cam model for a studio that takes 50% of income, yet is saying that camsite owners are robbing the cam models...

I know what I'm paying for in a studio, i know how much the director which is also the owner earns (small clue - he isn't the richest men of the country). I know i could make more without it, but I'm too lazy and busy to take care about certain things that the studio take cares about. The big difference is that you may work without a studio so it's a choice. You cannot working without a streaming platform.

 

[PandoraUnchained]

And they cover their expensen with advertisers. And thats a lot harder for an adult site. Brands like Mercedes, Nike etc dont want to be involved with adult, thus revenue from advertising is less for adult sites.

They aren't covering their expenses with advsertising. Advertising is the main and barely sole revenue as Youtube is free for users.

It read that the reports were also at least five years old since they were estimating an upcoming 2016 year. At least that's how I read it. I haven't looked for more recent estimates. But, I think it's be interesting to see trending numbers, and the biggest unknown of how it's going to be impacted this year.

The problem is that the last big survey is from 2016. Since then all the owners did they best to never had any precise survey about their industry (probably because that could stop Audri believe that they are doing their job only thinking about models happiness, while living on bread and water). Even understanding who owns each site is quite a pain, NextWeb tried it a time ago.

The (almost) invisible men and women behind the worldâs largest porn sites

Hundreds of millions of people watch porn each month, but the people behind the companies are hard to track down.

thenextweb.com

 

[Nigerian Prince]

I know what I'm paying for in a studio, i know how much the director which is also the owner earns (small clue - he isn't the richest men of the country). I know i could make more without it, but I'm too lazy and busy to take care about certain things that the studio take cares about. The big difference is that you may work without a studio so it's a choice. You cannot working without a streaming platform.

 

[AmberCutie]

I know what I'm paying for in a studio, i know how much the director which is also the owner earns (small clue - he isn't the richest men of the country). I know i could make more without it, but I'm too lazy and busy to take care about certain things that the studio take cares about. The big difference is that you may work without a studio so it's a choice. You cannot working without a streaming platform.

Camsites provide me a service by giving me a platform with viewers to use who will watch me and a convenient way to get paid by those users. I could not do this work as a fully independent model. Some people can but I don't want to put in the legwork, so I accept that they take a cut, the owners make some money, and I get what I want out of the deal. If I didn't feel like I was getting a fair deal out of it I would find another platform to work with or go independent--it is an option I have, but one I choose not to take because I appreciate the convenience camsites provide and I'm okay if those sites get some compensation for it.

It's almost like these say the same thing! Except my cam site doesn't take 50% of my earnings. In fact, the cam site doesn't take any % of my earnings, they take a % of customer's purchases.

(Which still happens on the cam sites that your studio has you on, and THEN they take more... not much leg to stand on here sorry.)

 

[Marceline]

First you made some imaginary assertions about adult transactions being dangerous to handle

Not dangerous, high risk. Which is true. Fraud is much more prevalent in the adult industry than in other industries. That's why payment processors label them "high risk" and charge them much higher fees.

It's sort of odd that someone can be totally okay with giving a studio 50% of their earnings when the majority of studios don't do anything for you that you can't do for yourself (and easily, at that), yet is seemingly angry that the actual sites that make earning that money capable takes their cut of what members spend. The sites give you the platform, the customers, the way to actually process these payments. Studios do not. Are you just angry that the owners are rich? Because that's ridiculous. But hey, keep going off and telling people they have Stockholm Syndrome because they're not agreeing with you.

 

[PandoraUnchained]

It's almost like these say the same thing! Except my cam site doesn't take 50% of my earnings. In fact, the cam site doesn't take any % of my earnings, they take a % of customer's purchases.

Could you please read afain what I wrote. Studios are a choice. Webcam sites are not.

Nice verbal gymnastic with the earning/purchase. Except that you are the seller.

If tomorrow eBay charge 99.99% of the sale price as a commission, you;ll sell a good worth 10$ and receive 0.01$ for it would you be happy? After all EBay takes his commission on the customer's purchase too.

 

[AmberCutie]

Studios are a choice. Webcam sites are not.

Webcam sites are a choice for those that are willing to do all of the work independently, which is still possible, so as I quoted:

Some people can but I don't want to put in the legwork

Again.

You need to stop.

 

[Nigerian Prince]

Not dangerous, high risk. Which is true. Fraud is much more prevalent in the adult industry than in other industries. That's why payment processors label them "high risk" and charge them much higher fees.

It's sort of odd that someone can be totally okay with giving a studio 50% of their earnings when the majority of studios don't do anything for you that you can't do for yourself (and easily, at that), yet is seemingly angry that the actual sites that make earning that money capable takes their cut of what members spend. The sites give you the platform, the customers, the way to actually process these payments. Studios do not. Are you just angry that the owners are rich? Because that's ridiculous. But hey, keep going off and telling people they have Stockholm Syndrome because they're not agreeing with you.

Even if they are fine with paying their studio 50% its not an equal comparison, because what these sites provide is 100 times more valuable than anything a studio can. Sure, studios can provide some things, but not enough to most people to justify paying 50% of their earnings...

 

[PandoraUnchained]

Not dangerous, high risk. Which is true. Fraud is much more prevalent in the adult industry than in other industries. That's why payment processors label them "high risk" and charge them much higher fees.

It's sort of odd that someone can be totally okay with giving a studio 50% of their earnings when the majority of studios don't do anything for you that you can't do for yourself (and easily, at that), yet is seemingly angry that the actual sites that make earning that money capable takes their cut of what members spend. The sites give you the platform, the customers, the way to actually process these payments. Studios do not. Are you just angry that the owners are rich? Because that's ridiculous. But hey, keep going off and telling people they have Stockholm Syndrome because they're not agreeing with you.

Ok. THen explain me why any big webcam site is using standart payment protocols same that those used by any adult sites, paying exactly as much fees.
I already answered for the studios, I'm ok for overpaying my lazyness. And there is other reasons why I prefer to work in a studio rather then alone, but this is offtopic here.
I have no problem about the sites owners being rich, they should be rich for their work.
I have a problems with an industry dominated by a small number of companies having the same practices, and receiving much more money that their market worth, due to the monopolistic situation.

 

[Marceline]

Even if they are fine with paying their studio 50% its not an equal comparison to compare it to a cam site, because what these sites provide is 100 times more valuable than anything a studio can. Sure, studips can provide some things, but not enough to most people to justify paying 50% of their earnings...

Definitely. That's why it's weird to be angry at one and not the other, at least to me. While studios miiiiggghhtt increase your overall earnings before they take their cut, they're not the ones that are actually providing the cam model with all the essentials to make money. The only way I could ever see working for a studio being worth it is if you're in a situation where you need a place to cam from and equipment to cam with and the studio can provide that. Even then, I would think that would be more of a short term solution if someone is actually planning on staying in the adult industry.

Ok. THen explain me why any big webcam site is using standart payment protocols same that those used by any adult sites, paying exactly as much fees.

I'm really not sure if this is a question or a statement or what, but it doesn't make much sense. Soooooo....

I have a problems with an industry dominated by a small number of companies having the same practices, and receiving much more money that their market worth, due to the monopolistic situation.

You do realize that if there's more successful big name camming sites out there you'll more than likely be making less money unless you also spread yourself across all of those sites? But still, the reason why there's a handful that do so well is because of the nature of the business. Like I said before, fraud is prevalent in this industry. It goes both ways. And so, members are going to be cautious with which sites they can trust to use their payment info on, which makes it hard for there to be tons of wildly successful sites. And about having the same practices, are you talking about them taking their cut? Because that's going to be the case no matter the site. They're a business, not a charity.

 

[Deleted member 37064]

Somewhat relevant to the discussion, remember that even if profit margins are thin, if there enough of them with the same expenses, it adds up. Look at Walmart and other companies where profits margins are slim but due to mass volume high profits.