3D interactive virtual porn

[IsabellaSnow]

I really don't know how you're getting this from my posts Alice. I'm sorry you're interpreting them in this way, but you are putting things into my mouth which I simply haven't said. It makes me think of a boyfriend who's asked his girlfriend if they want a diet coke and now she's pissed off because somehow in that statement he called her fat.

I was not "giving you advice". I was saying we have ALL been there with the low room counts, camscore drops and shitty nights, and those girls who are lucky to not been there will most likely get to a stage where they will. I was saying that I have been there. I don't really know who you think I am but you are aware that my camscore is currently under 3k right? My score has gone up and down like a yoyo, it's been way lower than this before and way higher. I actually fit into the category you seem to think I'm insulting... I just can't even...

I have not said you are doing anything "wrong" when you're on cam. I have not said you are unattractive when you're not doing well on cam. These are statements which you have picked yourself, not me. They aren't even things I agree with so please don't badly interpret someone else's writing and then continue after they explain the actual meaning. Can you please just let it go and accept that you did make a mistake when you read and interpreted that post and that maybe there isn't some nasty between the lines motive behind the words. What you're doing now is unfair and it's derailing the thread even more. You can keep repeating yourself until the cows come home but you're not going to suddenly change what I said into what you think I've said.

 

[AerynShade]

Soo, am I the only one who thinks it is strange we don't have a ton of Oculus-based porn games yet?

I have a friend in the games industry who has tried to get her fellows to collaborate on an Oculus sex game, but no one was interested.

 

[weirdbr]

Soo, am I the only one who thinks it is strange we don't have a ton of Oculus-based porn games yet?

I have a friend in the games industry who has tried to get her fellows to collaborate on an Oculus sex game, but no one was interested.

I wonder if this isn't due to licensing/contractual issues... While the base technology should be usable with any current gaming engine, I bet you can't easily license something like Unity to be used for adult content.. Which means you have to reimplement pretty much everything, go with an old(er) engine that is now free or find an opensource engine that might not be that great.

 

[TheAliceLane]

Some statements are for Hi and some for Is:

As neither of you have regrets of what you stated neither do I.

Yes I am pretty sure you imply I was asking for advice with statements like:

"Using different cam angles"
"I haven't been in your room so I wouldn't be able to say"

I also never said you were insulting anyone. I said you made a generalized statement that looked "this way".

Hi thanks for clearing up that you were talking about girls with a camscore of over 10k that is a HUGE difference. Saying camscore over 10k as to a previous "top girl" statement changes this completely. Top girl does not = camscore over 10k. Tons of girls in top 250 do not have a camscore that big.

As for "admitting I am wrong" I am no more wrong than you. Everyone is entitled to their opinions and how they view a topic or statement made. The cows came home a long time ago and I still see it as I saw it to begin with.

If you say you meant nothing by it then you didn't, but no one was putting words in your mouth any more than you were putting them into mine. Also never said you directly called me ugly. I said you implied that girls with a lower ro count were not attractive because she didn't have masses immediately confirming so pointing out you were indirectly speaking negatively about a huge population of mfc girls.

I got your camscore when I looked at it prior to writing my statement. I thought though that you stated earlier in this thread that you don't cam anymore so that had me a little confused.

Either way I have the way I felt about what you said and you are inclined to disagree and become defensive as I have that right as well.

Looks like we are both exersicing that right. I am not more derailing this thread than you have by continuing to also reply in efforts to make sure you get the last word.

You may have it.

Also HiGirls thank you very much for actually responding to my statements and conversations about what I was actually talking about. You were very direct as well as considerate of the other persons point of view. Thank you for your input it was well received.

Good day to you both. I'm out of this feed for good. Off to work I go.

 

[mynameisbob84]

@Bob- Forgive me if I'm wrong, I didn't have time to mention it in my last post, but if my memory is correct I can remember you posting some very handsome photos of yourself in another thread a while back. If I'm not just making this up then Bob I think you're gorgeous and when you end up in the bed of a really hot girl then it'll be a mixture of your looks and your great personality.

Well thank you, bb. That's kind of you to say

 

[Fay_Galore]

With the risk of adding another batch of discussion on looks,

here's what I think, I think the average camgirl puts more effort into grooming than the average member. it is, after all, our job. I wonder what we all look like without a smile, make-up, cute outfits, good lighting, flattering angles and attire. so, in that light, one might argue that the average camgirl 'looks better' than the average member simply because we put more time and effort into presentation, whereas a member's job isn't necessarily looking good all the time. It is ours.

now, if I (an average camgirl) would run into the average MFC member (or any human being for that matter) in the street with my nude face and sweatpants, I highly doubt he would look back

 

[IsabellaSnow]

now, if I (an average camgirl) would run into the average MFC member (or any human being for that matter) in the street with my nude face and sweatpants, I highly doubt he would look back

Definitely not in my case! :lol:
I do get chatted up a fair bit by guys when I have no make up on and am wearing shit clothes but if I walked down the street I doubt many would look twice. I doubt most members would even recognise me most days, big baggy coats, shit jeans, muddy wellies and unbrushed hair tied up with no make up on. I look like shit on a day to day basis. Women have quite a large level of grooming they can go through to make themselves more attractive, men don't have that option. If you're not that good looking as a guy you can up your grooming to certain points but you can't totally change yourself around in the way women can.

I said you implied that girls with a lower ro count were not attractive because she didn't have masses immediately confirming so pointing out you were indirectly speaking negatively about a huge population of mfc girls.

How you get me mentioning that especially girls with lots of viewers tend to be extremely attractive means that girls without as many viewers are unattractive I have no idea. It is not what I said, you read into my words in a completely wrong way and even though I have told you that I had not implied these things in the slightest you are still refusing to believe or accept it, so either I am lying to you and I was for fuck knows what reason completely going against the point that started this whole ridiculous mess or you read into it in the wrong way. What do you honestly think is more likely?
It's like if I said that I find blonde girls really attractive a brunette girl accused me of implying that girls who aren't blonde aren't attractive. It does not correlate. And yes, girls who have shed loads of viewers are clearly found attractive by a bunch of people or they wouldn't have those viewers. That doesn't mean that girls without those viewers aren't attractive. It was never said, it was never implied and it's pointless me continuing to repeat myself but you still do not seem to be getting it. You keep repeating your posts as though you're going to convince me that I said something that I did not say and because you took a far fetched and incorrect assumption about what I meant out of a short sentence. Drop it. It's over.

Yes I am pretty sure you imply I was asking for advice with statements like:

"Using different cam angles"
"I haven't been in your room so I wouldn't be able to say"

Again you seriously need to stop reading words and then thinking they "imply" something different. I'm an extremely blunt person. I say what I mean. There are no implications ever. If I don't mean it, I won't say it. I've never seen you on cam so I would never advise you, and seeing as I have been successful at camming then if I or any other girl on here were to share her route to success with you or another girl then for christ sake, don't take it as some personal insult, take it as a complement that someone from the same industry as you is willing to spend time out of their day telling you their experiences.
By saying I used different cam angles I was just stating that for a while I didn't have as high room numbers, I was pointing out that I did nothing to change my attractiveness to get those room numbers, I used my brain and changed up the camera angles to what worked for me. Me saying that I haven't been in your room so I wouldn't be able to say is me saying that I have never watched you before so none of this is personally about you and that I was not giving you advice. I have absolutely no idea how attractive you are. It means exactly what I said. I haven't watched you so I have no comment. But apparently that's an attempt at giving advise...

Now back to the topic, I'm very interested in these Oculus based porn games... Did anyone ever play Morrowind and visit that shitty strip club? haha

 

[Teagan]

So this: Obviously not all camgirls look like that but a lot of the ones who actually have more than 5 people in their rooms are very attractive. -Bella
That statement to me is very much stating exactly what what I took it as. Meaning if you have 5 or less in your room you are unattractive. In her attempt to prove what she was saying about members being out of "most cam girls leagues" she used girls with large room counts as an example. Meaning anyone with less is as repulsive and below her as the members of MFC are. So no I don't think my response was out of context.

Another thing no where in my statement did I say I do not like girls with high ranks or high room counts. I simply stated that her satement of "anyone who visits any high count room on mfc will find that girl attractive" is completely false. I used an example of trainwreck cams as a funny instance. Also your statement of all rooms with high counts are like that because the guys has searched them out out. Again false. THere are a few reasons why someone could be in a room that has a high room count. One being the obvious that they are a reg second being that they are lazy and research proves that someone wants the least amount of clicks when finding ANYTHING on the internet including a cam room to sit in. When you google you click on the first or second thing that pops up from your search right? Same goes for MFC top page easy click you don't have to go searching or a quick click to most popular room and again quick click. Anything more than 3 clicks away is just too much lol this is the age of instant gratification.

Now with that being said:

I LOVE LOVE LOVE watching a lot of the top girls who have large room counts!

A lot of them have worked years to get where they are and have been through many struggles, but as most will agree high cam score usually means bigger room count REGARDLESS of what you look like. THere are girls that struggled with below 800 scores who now are CRAZY huge on MFC and what were they unattractive before they got their chance to shine and now suddenly bc they have a big camscore and a high room count they are more attractive hahahhaahahha

There is a science to camscores and room counts and making it all work. Once you start to get that higher camscore you have a better chance of being seen. Getting your camscore up is simple math and anyone can do it if done properly and with hard work.

They are amazing and I chat with some of those girls they are amazing.I have also cammed with and even flown to the other side of the country to meet one of them to hang out. I at no point EVER said anything about not liking them as you implied here:

" Those top rooms may not be pleasurable to watch to you, or me, or someone else but on a whole they are for one of those reasons."

There are lots of top 300 girls I adore and look up to. My statement at no point was to stab at the girls with high room counts nor did anything in my statement do so. One day I hope to have put in enough hard work as some of those I look up to in order to be where they are. I was defending the idea that girls with low room counts by "most standards according to her" mean they we are not attractive to the general public. Uh wrong.

My statement had nothing to do with jumping on the rage wagon. I am not in a rage just making an observation that to a girl who struggles on MFC she basically just stated that we were not included in her "most camgirls are fairly attractive statement" she only meant that for girls with high room counts of course.

I think it's pretty clear that saying 5 people was an off hand randomly picked number that popped into her head. Not meant to be taken literally to offend anyone. It's not like anyone in their right mind thinks that every single girl with 6+ members watching are wonderfully better than anyone with 5 or less in there. I mean come on. Thats ridiculous and a ridiculous think to pick on someone for saying and taking seriously. Or to take personally as you did.

I simply stated that her statement of "anyone who visits any high count room on mfc will find that girl attractive" is completely false.

I disagree with this as a girl with a higher room count is attracting people more than someone else at that moment. Regardless of the reason it's happening. Whether it be they are gorgeous, entertaining, having a fun show, are a trainwreck, easy to find, ETC. Something she is doing is attracting them right then thus she is attractive. Attractive means many things and not just how someone looks. So does HOT. I know there are multiple reasons guys visit a room and multiple reasons why they are popular rooms which is why I said a few then etc as to cover those in my previous post. I dont feel the need to list all the possible reasons I could think of in here like that she has regulars or many of them. Some things just dont have to be said they are implied. I shouldn't even have to explain that really.

No one said girls who struggle or have lower room counts are unattractive in any way. As it's been said many times on the forum it takes a multitude of things and a lil luck to get there.

I at no point EVER said anything about not liking them as you implied here:

" Those top rooms may not be pleasurable to watch to you, or me, or someone else but on a whole they are for one of those reasons."

I in no way insinuated or said that you thought anything less or more of girls who have high rooms counts. I dont know why you honestly think I did but i think again you're taking one thing and picking on it. Ridiculous. That comment you chose to pick out was said in response to you saying "I also like EVERYONE else in the world have things I find attractive or people who please my eyeballs more than others. Not all cams listed in most popular at any given time are cams I find pleasurable to my eyeballs and I am going to take a good guess that goes for ALL members." Obviously not all rooms are pleasurable to watch for you, and I included that to myself not all rooms are a pleasure to me, or to other people. That was in no way intended to say you did not like popular rooms for some reason. And I was very careful to even add "MAY" in my statement as well.

I dont think you jumped on a rage wagon but I do think you took one sentence here or there and jumped on them. You need to give the benefit of the doubt sometimes and look at context rather than one single thing and blow off the rest. Come on. Often times we generalize things on forums. We dont feel the need to be exact, or literal in every thing we type at all times. It's common sense that it happens. Do we honestly have to start typing out every word rather than saying ETC and the like. No. We should not all have to suddenly be defensive with every thing we say and on guard at all times either.

Now I could pick a bunch of things you said out and pick on you for them like saying "As neither of you have regrets of what you stated neither do I." for that being very poor behavior or "You were very direct as well as considerate of the other persons point of view" for you not being this way yourself but i'm not gonna cause that is petty and childish. I could generalize and imply and assume a ton of things from what you have said here (and just to cover my ass since we have to be so literal here apparently, others could do the same to me) but just so you know things you sometimes say to can be picked apart and attacked just as much as other girls or guys stuff can be and it doesnt feel to good to have it happen. So keep that in mind next time you wanna jump on a sentence till it's dead. It also doesnt feel to good to have words put in your mouth as you accused others of doing to you here fyi.

@Izzie I absolutely played Morrowind and games like it and i think it could be a very interesting turn of events to be able to put yourself into places like those virtually. One day it may well happen. You could pop anywhere. Even into Anime type things or anime porn which is very popular. Or for girls who love tentacle porn and the like they could get into it. The possibilities are really endless. I dont think it will make camgirls obsolete though even with guys getting what they want instantly in virtual world as for quiet some time it would be hugely expensive. I could see them adding DLC content to base packages like The Sims though and keep it forever going.

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

Soo, am I the only one who thinks it is strange we don't have a ton of Oculus-based porn games yet?

I have a friend in the games industry who has tried to get her fellows to collaborate on an Oculus sex game, but no one was interested.

AFAIK the Oculus is really only selling to software developers. There website lists the googles as being pre-orders only with delivering in 2015. So it will take at least a year or two before there is a big enough base to interest porn producers. Porn tends on the leading edge of technology but not the bleeding edge. I am overseeing an augmented reality project and the small number of firms doing work are charging a premium compared to a normal app development. In the past sex orient video games have not been big sellers,

I hope Facebook (Oculus corportate overlord) doesn't put restrictions on the usage of the technology but we will see.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

@Izzie I absolutely played Morrowind and games like it and i think it could be a very interesting turn of events to be able to put yourself into places like those virtually. One day it may well happen. You could pop anywhere.

It'd be without a doubt incredible, though I don't think I'd ever want to leave! I already have real trouble getting sucked into computer games, I find them so addictive I can't handle reality. I can be the same with reading books though books don't give me a headache or make me feel sick. But with both I'll barely eat and won't be able to focus on real things. I occasionally get that when I first get into a tv series. After a week or two of feeling seriously weak and messed in the head I'll usually force myself back into reality. I kind of think all things like this are like junk food, so tasty to eat but if you consume too much of it you will eventually get ill. With stuff on the computers I think you can make yourself mentally ill in the same way if you life an unhealthy life style your body will become ill. I'm not talking about going crazy, but I feel like it makes me go a bit weird. We're naturally social, we need physical contact with others, the more we bring ourselves into a world where we socialise online and start to cut out those physical bonds the more alone and depressed we will end up feeling.

I was talking about this subject with a friend earlier and though we were both agreeing how cool it'd be we were also talking about how different children are now even compared to when we were young. When I was a child I spent pretty much all of my free time outdoors, even when it rained. A computer was not something I ever thought about, my father ran a company involving something to do with computers so occasionally I'd play pacman on visits to his office but that was as far as it went. Even watching tv wasn't something I did much. I'd spend lots of time drawing, painting, reading and playing piano, and in the evening we'd watch a mixture of university challenge, time team and countdown, as a child things I had no interest in. Technology was there, but it wasn't the focus of the household.

I watch children nowadays and it's completely different. No more tamegotchies, no more boxy game boys. No more games in the park, nope, they play on a Wii they want to be active. My friends 3 year old sister can use an ipad (to a point). We have no real way of knowing what this is doing to this generation. For sure though they'll be so much more advanced when it comes to technology! It's pretty crazy I think. You learn about big changes in history where everything advances super quick, it's crazy to know that I was growing up in the middle of another and that so many things aren't that far fetched. The place I got the original article from was an article on various things in sci fi that have actually been developed. One of them was an honest to god invisibility cloak.

 

[zippypinhead]

Soo, am I the only one who thinks it is strange we don't have a ton of Oculus-based porn games yet?

I have a friend in the games industry who has tried to get her fellows to collaborate on an Oculus sex game, but no one was interested.

Porn games in general don't seem to be too great a market. It's pretty sparse, when compared to other media, and the quality tends to be particularly bad most of the time, both as games and erotica. Hell, the best sexy gaming experiences I've had have been through mods to existing games, like Elder Scrolls and Sims.

 

[MrRodry]

Bumping this topic to post a link to a interview with a VR Cam Girl.

What It's Like to Be the First VR Cam Girl

 

[Puffin]

A developing technology is 3D projection, one possible method that might take off.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

Wild thread, forgot all about it. Things got a little weird but it ended up leading to a cool thread.
https://www.ambercutie.com/forums/threads/positive-experiences-on-acf

 

[Lelo1]

Bumping this topic to post a link to a interview with a VR Cam Girl.

What It's Like to Be the First VR Cam Girl

Having used it. I have to say there is a real sense of presences. The best way to describe it, it's like the 3D in minority report. From straight on it's great, from the side it starts to see through it. Right now the resolution is low. Its like jpg's in the 90s.

After watching it I had to grab a kinnect 2. I wanted to see if I could find ways to increase the detail both in 3D and the Video. I stumbled into a road block. Kinnect 2 requires usb 3.0. And it's picky about USB 3.0 over PCI upgrade cards. Also this eats HD space like you would not believe.

 

[Lelo1]

There some interesting work with using multi cam setups to create 3d. But this requires high end software, a large dedicated space, and about 80 SLRs. And at the moment it's not really focused on motion.

One of these days I wouldn't be surprised if a model sells little 3d printed models of them self.