Work Visa application "Work Contract" from CB, MFC, and OF?

[abbyb]

I am getting closer to my timeline for applying for a remote work visa. The application requests a "work contract" in addition to bank statements to prove income. I was told to request a letter on their letterhead with the nature of the work, when did I start, will I continue, and a possible range of pay. That just doesn't seem like something CB, OF, or MFC would be able to do. Has anyone gone this route? My only thought is to set up a business LLC and have the contract for my business? I'm at a loss.

 

[KingMarti]

I am getting closer to my timeline for applying for a remote work visa. The application requests a "work contract" in addition to bank statements to prove income. I was told to request a letter on their letterhead with the nature of the work, when did I start, will I continue, and a possible range of pay. That just doesn't seem like something CB, OF, or MFC would be able to do. Has anyone gone this route? My only thought is to set up a business LLC and have the contract for my business? I'm at a loss.

I think you are looking for the wrong type of visa. A work visa is for when you are working for someone else, as a cam model you are self employed, you'll need to find the relevant visa for that (different countries have different visa's available). Some countries have a digital nomad visa which could suit what you need. If you explain the situation to chatgpt and where you are going it will more than likely be able to tell you the most applicable visa type.

 

[LaceyRoyce]

I am getting closer to my timeline for applying for a remote work visa. The application requests a "work contract" in addition to bank statements to prove income. I was told to request a letter on their letterhead with the nature of the work, when did I start, will I continue, and a possible range of pay. That just doesn't seem like something CB, OF, or MFC would be able to do. Has anyone gone this route? My only thought is to set up a business LLC and have the contract for my business? I'm at a loss.

Where are you applying for a work visa to go? Like what country?

You are an independent contractor so you will not be able to get a traditional work visa through your work as a model

 

[abbyb]

I think you are looking for the wrong type of visa. A work visa is for when you are working for someone else, as a cam model you are self employed, you'll need to find the relevant visa for that (different countries have different visa's available). Some countries have a digital nomad visa which could suit what you need. If you explain the situation to chatgpt and where you are going it will more than likely be able to tell you the most applicable visa type.

Yeah I'm looking at the D8 visa in Portugal for the self employed category they still request a work contract or letter like I described

 

[abbyb]

Where are you applying for a work visa to go? Like what country?

You are an independent contractor so you will not be able to get a traditional work visa through your work as a model

Yeah I'm looking at Portugal's remote work visa. Everything else makes sense but they have a requirement that self employed needs a work contract

 

[KingMarti]

Yeah I'm looking at the D8 visa in Portugal for the self employed category they still request a work contract or letter like I described

I also ran it through chatgpt, and it seems it has the information you need.

As a streamer, your situation still fits within the scope of Portugal's D8 Visa for digital nomads, but since you don’t have traditional contracts or letters of engagement from clients, you'll need to provide alternative forms of documentation that demonstrate your work, income, and stability as a digital content creator. Here's how you can approach your D8 Visa application as a streamer:

1. Proof of Employment as a Streamer​

Even without formal contracts, there are other ways to show that you are actively working and earning income as a streamer:

• Streaming Platform Evidence:
  • Provide proof of your streaming activity on platforms like Twitch, YouTube, or any other service you use. You can submit:
    • Screenshots of your profile showing your account, follower count, and streams.
    • Links to your streaming channel(s) and videos.
    • A summary of your streaming schedule and how long you've been active.
• Monetization Proof:
  • Include evidence of how you monetize your streams. This could be:
    • Statements from the platform showing income (e.g., from Twitch payouts, YouTube AdSense revenue, or Super Chats).
    • Records of donations, tips, or subscriptions from your audience (e.g., from Patreon or other third-party support platforms).
    • Sponsorship or affiliate marketing payments, if applicable.
    • Any other revenue streams you generate through your content (e.g., merchandise sales, brand deals).
• Portfolio of Work:
  • Create a portfolio that showcases the content you produce. This could be a document or presentation that highlights:
    • Key achievements as a streamer (e.g., major collaborations, milestones such as reaching a certain number of followers or subscribers).
    • Details on your target audience and engagement levels (viewer counts, follower growth, etc.).

2. Proof of Income​

You'll need to demonstrate that your streaming income meets the minimum financial requirements for the D8 visa, which is around €3,040 per month (as of 2023). Since you don’t have an employer or formal contract, you can provide:

• Bank Statements:
  • Show bank statements for the last six months that clearly indicate your income from streaming platforms. Highlight the deposits made by streaming services, Patreon, or other monetization sources.
• Platform Income Statements:
  • Obtain income summaries from platforms like Twitch, YouTube, or Patreon. These can typically be found in your account settings or payment history sections.
  • Monthly or quarterly earnings reports (as available) to show a stable income stream.
• Tax Returns:
  • If possible, include tax filings that show your reported income from streaming, especially if you’ve been doing this work for a while and have filed taxes as a self-employed individual.

3. Self-Employment Declaration​

Since you don't have formal contracts or an employer, you may need to include a self-declaration explaining your role as a digital nomad streamer. This letter can be addressed to the Portuguese Consulate and should include:

• An overview of your career as a streamer, including details about when you started, the platforms you use, and your income sources.
• A detailed description of how your streaming work is independent, flexible, and does not require you to be in any fixed location (remote nature of your work).
• A commitment that you intend to continue working as a streamer while residing in Portugal and that your income is derived from outside of Portugal.

4. Other Required Documents​

Beyond proving your income and work, you'll still need to gather the standard documentation required for the D8 visa:

• Health Insurance: Proof of comprehensive health insurance coverage in Portugal.
• Accommodation Proof: A rental contract, hotel booking, or letter from someone hosting you.
• Criminal Background Check: A criminal record check from your home country or countries where you’ve resided in the past year.
• Passport: Your passport must be valid for at least six months beyond your intended stay.
• Visa Application Form: Complete the official visa application form.
• Photos: Two passport-sized photos, as required by the consulate.

5. Submit Your Application​

• Once all your documents are ready, submit your visa application at the Portuguese consulate or embassy in your home country. Make sure to have all your documents translated into Portuguese or English if needed and notarized if required.

6. Final Steps in Portugal​

• After arriving in Portugal with your visa, you’ll need to apply for a residence permit at SEF (Serviço de Estrangeiros e Fronteiras). You’ll be able to stay for one year, with the possibility of renewal.

Conclusion​

Even without traditional contracts or formal employment, your work as a streamer fits the requirements of the D8 Visa as long as you can prove your self-employment, remote work, and financial stability. Your streaming platform activity, monetization records, and income statements will serve as sufficient proof to support your application.

Let me know if you need help drafting any of these documents or have further questions!

I would still double check with someone since I wouldnt personally want to be attaching my profiles to a visa application, and pretty sure when I say streamer gpt is thinking twitch not adult.

ETA: I did clarify adult content streamer and it did change the output quite a bit

As an adult content streamer, applying for a D8 Visa (Digital Nomad Visa) for Portugal would require careful consideration due to the nature of your work. While the Portuguese government does not explicitly prohibit adult content creators from applying for visas, the specific industry you work in could introduce complications or sensitivities in the visa process. Here are some factors to consider:
1. Legal Considerations in Portugal

Portugal does not have specific laws banning adult content creation or streaming, provided it is consensual and within legal boundaries (i.e., no underage content or exploitation). However, there are some important points to consider:

Legality of Work: Ensure that the adult content you create complies with both Portuguese laws and the regulations of the platforms you use. Portugal has relatively liberal views on adult content compared to some countries, but illegal content (such as revenge porn or non-consensual material) is heavily penalized.
Taxation: If your visa is approved, you would be subject to taxation in Portugal as a resident. Ensure that the adult industry work you perform is declared appropriately for tax purposes.

2. Presenting Your Application

The nature of adult content creation may not need to be explicitly stated in your visa application. You can frame your profession as "digital content creation" or "entertainment" while still providing evidence of income from streaming platforms. However, avoid misrepresenting or hiding critical facts if directly asked about the specifics of your work.
3. Documentation Requirements

As an adult content streamer, you will still need to provide the same documentation as any other applicant. Focus on proving your financial stability and remote nature of your work:

Income Proof:
Bank statements showing regular income from your content creation platforms (e.g., OnlyFans, MyFreeCams, Chaturbate, or other adult-focused sites).
Platform Income Statements: Download earnings reports from the platforms you use.
Tax Returns: If available, submit tax returns showing your reported income, regardless of the nature of the work.

Portfolio and Self-Employment Declaration:
Avoid being explicit about the adult content nature unless asked, but you can describe your work generally as "digital entertainment" or "content creation."
Be ready to explain the remote nature of your work and how it is independent from any fixed employer.

Health Insurance and Other Required Documents:
You will need to provide health insurance, proof of accommodation, and a criminal background check just as any other applicant.

4. Challenges You May Face

Stigma or Bias: While there is no official restriction against adult content creators applying for visas, you might face unofficial bias or scrutiny due to the nature of your work. Be prepared to navigate these situations diplomatically.
Platform Restrictions: Some streaming platforms for adult content may face restrictions in certain countries. Ensure that Portugal does not block or heavily restrict the platform you rely on for your income. As of now, Portugal does not have significant restrictions on accessing adult content sites.

5. Taxation and Legal Framework

Non-Habitual Resident (NHR) Tax Regime: Portugal offers a favorable tax regime (NHR) for expats, which may apply to you as long as you declare your income properly. The adult content industry is not excluded from this tax regime, but you should consult a tax professional to understand how best to report your earnings and take advantage of tax benefits.

VAT Considerations: If your earnings exceed certain thresholds, you may need to register for VAT (Value Added Tax), depending on how you structure your business. Seek advice from a tax professional or legal expert with experience in digital nomad or adult content business models.

6. Discretion in Your Application

While the adult content industry may carry social stigma, this doesn’t have to affect your visa application if you focus on the legal and financial aspects of your work. You can describe your work in broad terms, such as “online entertainment” or “digital content creation,” while still providing the necessary proof of income and remote work.
Conclusion

As long as your work is legal and you can meet the financial and documentary requirements, being an adult streamer should not inherently disqualify you from applying for a D8 Visa for Portugal. However, it is advisable to approach the application process with discretion regarding the specific nature of your content while ensuring all necessary documents, particularly those proving income and self-employment, are thorough and accurate.

If you want help structuring your application or further advice on specific details, feel free to ask!

 

[abbyb]

I also ran it through chatgpt, and it seems it has the information you need.



I would still double check with someone since I wouldnt personally want to be attaching my profiles to a visa application, and pretty sure when I say streamer gpt is thinking twitch not adult.

ETA: I did clarify adult content streamer and it did change the output quite a bit

Yeah unfortunately chatgpt just doesn't quite cover this. The EU immigration portal asks for "Specific documentation: a work contract or service agreement in the framework of an independent and temporary work activity" and that's a bullet point they have to check off and ask for when you do your interview. I wasn't sure if someone here had been through this situation and had advice

 

[KingMarti]

Yeah unfortunately chatgpt just doesn't quite cover this. The EU immigration portal asks for "Specific documentation: a work contract or service agreement in the framework of an independent and temporary work activity" and that's a bullet point they have to check off and ask for when you do your interview. I wasn't sure if someone here had been through this situation and had advice

The best option I see in that case would be to look for one of the services that help you fill out forms or ask you the questions and then fill it out for you, I know it's possible because there is a hub of remote software developers (who wont have employment or work contracts because they build and launch products) based out of Portugal, it's just going to be a matter of finding out what the equivalent information is that they are asking for.

 

[abbyb]

The best option I see in that case would be to look for one of the services that help you fill out forms or ask you the questions and then fill it out for you, I know it's possible because there is a hub of remote software developers (who wont have employment or work contracts because they build and launch products) based out of Portugal, it's just going to be a matter of finding out what the equivalent information is that they are asking for.

Oooh thank you that's a good idea! I'll look into that

 

[Skaar_the_Savage]

Oooh thank you that's a good idea! I'll look into that

You'll need an immigration lawyer from Portugal. Honestly, any adult work is gonna get you flagged for closer analysis of your application and then eventually denied.

You have to have clean proven income. I would do like a travel visa and use the travel time to find some kind of legit work or company that might be doing a work sponsorship. I would keep any webcam work on the side, completely separate and hidden. I would not risk putting anything adult orientated on any immigration docs in any capacity.

Reddit has immigration subreddits that might be more helpful.

 

[MarieElise]

You'll need an immigration lawyer from Portugal. Honestly, any adult work is gonna get you flagged for closer analysis of your application and then eventually denied.

You have to have clean proven income. I would do like a travel visa and use the travel time to find some kind of legit work or company that might be doing a work sponsorship. I would keep any webcam work on the side, completely separate and hidden. I would not risk putting anything adult orientated on any immigration docs in any capacity.

Reddit has immigration subreddits that might be more helpful.

"Clean" proven income? Nothing we do is illegal, and all is taxed. Not sure I care for that term, in this context, at all. Do you actually know anything about what we do and how it works?

 

[Skaar_the_Savage]

Yeah, valid point. To clarify, it's not guaranteed they would be flagged, but the issue is that they lack the requested documents. This is a common concern others have raised as well. Once something is submitted, there's no way to roll it back. It's also uncertain how Portugal views or tolerates webcam work, or whether their current payout methods are available. Some countries ban pornography production and apply the same laws to webcam models, regardless of the "live performance" distinction. Additionally, some countries restrict the use of third-party payment processors.

By "clean," I mean income that can support a sustainable lifestyle in the country you plan to relocate to without compromising your privacy. If someone wanted to rent an apartment or set up utilities, they’d likely need proof of income. A potential problem could arise if they're allowed into the country but the locals don't accept bitcoin statements. For instance, I had crypto, but it was only recently that I could link my bank account with a popular crypto broker. Before that, one of my banks viewed crypto activity as "dirty" or "untrustworthy." Therefore I never felt comfortable using crypto statements as proof of income for a loan. It's frustrating that something legal still faces such scrutiny.

I have an EIN and have paid taxes. I also know models who have relocated. If I were trying to move, I’d start with a travel visa first because the question of documented income doesn't go away after the visa application.

The application requests a "work contract" in addition to bank statements to prove income. I was told to request a letter on their letterhead with the nature of the work, when did I start, will I continue, and a possible range of pay.

More concerning is all the financial laws tho than this “porn” article, as for example my bank in Ukraine would nag me to death starting from $8,000 in my account asking to provide employment info, income source, if I own properties etc etc.