Today it ends....

[Wondrous1233]

I am another piece of fodder for the Romanian cam girl game. I have been in love with a woman for months now and I think I finally forced myself to realize that it isn't real. I haven't send money, but I have sent emotion and invested my time. I really thought there was something there, but then I suppose that is their job. To make people feel wanted, needed, and or loved. I realize that it is my fault, doesn't really make me feel any better about it. All accounts associated will be deleted no more contact at all. I refuse to be a pet or a permanent friendzone attachment, my position is known so there should be no surprise from anyone.

I write this message half as therapy and half as a warning to ANYONE who thinks that they have a real relationship with any of these women from europe. If you haven't met them in person, get out, get out now. Unless you are stronger than I am and can play the game for the game. This is nothing against camgirls, Its just not for me. I got emotionally involved and ended up hurting myself.

 

[lordmagellan]

Am I missing something? Are there any actual cam sites where you pay a girl, who's broadcasting her image from another part of the world to get naked, that are dating sites? Because that just seems like a bad idea- but possibly lucrative, given the plethora of "I feel in love" testimonials. Paying a woman to take her clothes off just doesn't seem like the foundation of a long term, healthy relationship. Maybe I'm just "old-school" in that regard.

 

[Wondrous1233]

So was I, I don't think people go to those sites to find a relationship. But as with everything if you spend enough time with someone feelings develop. I already stated that I had no intention for this to happen and It really is my fault for feeling this way. I know myself better than that, I should have stuck to my gut. I selfishly wanted a place to vent

 

[Jupiter551]

:violin:

 

[sweetiebatman]

Massive sweeping generalisation there

Those "European" girls eh?

:naughty:

 

[Evvie]

So was I, I don't think people go to those sites to find a relationship. But as with everything if you spend enough time with someone feelings develop. I already stated that I had no intention for this to happen and It really is my fault for feeling this way. I know myself better than that, I should have stuck to my gut. I selfishly wanted a place to vent

I dare say that a good quarter of the threads around ACF are selfish venting.

I do not think it is very generous of you to claim either that no man can have a "real" relationship with a European camgirl, nor that camgirl relationships ever lead to anything.

I don't think camming has much to do with it at all, in fact.

There seem to be very few circumstances where you can have a long-distance Internet-only relationship that has the stability, support, loyalty, and honesty that is expected in analog relationships. This is true across all mediums; it doesn't matter if you meet a camgirl, banker, school teacher or escort over the Internet: if she lives in Budapest and you live in Texas, that is a relationship that will be hard.

I have watched Mr. Evvie suffer long and often over his online relationships that have never panned out. There is a difference between meeting someone on the Internet and meeting them for coffee in the next day, and meeting someone on the Internet and you'll never meet them in real life because you live 2000 miles apart. While some women here will tell you they have developed amazing and serious relationships with members, the very few success stories are far outshined by failed relationships.

Long distance, Internet-only relationships are something I would not recommend to anyone, for reasons too lengthy to type out here. The fact that the woman is a prostitute or European has little to do with it.

 

[Nordling]

Well said, Evvie.

It's kind of like if I said, "every time I've ever been hurt in a relationship, it's been an American woman, therefore avoid American women like the plague--they're all out to hurt you."

:mrgreen:

 

[LilyMarie]

I really thought there was something there, but then I suppose that is their job. To make people feel wanted, needed, and or loved.

Not really. Their job is to entertain people.

I write this message half as therapy and half as a warning to ANYONE who thinks that they have a real relationship with any of these women from europe.

But you see, hardly anyone thinks that. Especially on this forum. Most men are fully aware that camgirls don't work on a camsite to meet men. There is no 'Romanian Camgirl Game'. They don't play a game. They're there to entertain and arouse you and make money doing so, period. Of course they're nice to you in the process. Do you think that's part of their 'game'? It's part of their job. No one wants to see a grumpy bitch; no one will tip her. If an attractive, friendly woman is enough for you to fall in love with her, then it was a very good decision of you to delete your account(s) because apparently cam sites are a bit too much for you.

But as with everything if you spend enough time with someone feelings develop.

No. I daresay most guys think of watching live cams as a fun hobby that involves their online friends who happen to be sexy. It's a great thing if you see it as what it truly is and if you realize why the women are there and why you are supposed to be there. Camming has nothing to do with dating or love. The vast majority of members do not develop any romantic feelings towards models.

And generalizing all European camgirls (or all Romanian camgirls for that matter!) is never cool and makes you look ignorant.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

Love you Lily

And generalizing all European camgirls (or all Romanian camgirls for that matter!) is never cool and makes you look ignorant.

I think the whole post made me think that!

No seriously, I'm actually laughing my head off. How many more of these do we need?

I'm debating whether to be really brutally honest or nice..... Well, apparently as you fall in love with girls who are nice to you I'll go for blunt.
Yeah I get this whole thing that "it could happen to lots of people" yeah, "it could happen to anyone..... if you forget there isn't an empty space between your ears".
Jeeze, yes, you can fall for a cam girl, you can fall for anyone who you have no chance with, it's not really new news. it's a risk men take when they come to a camsite.

I will also point out that as a cam girl I am really not bothered with the time invested by non tipping members who come to my room every fecking time i'm on and freeload. Many of them chat and that's cool, I'm not going to be rude to them, but in reality, I'm glaring at the inwardly when yet again they freeload.

I haven't send money, but I have sent emotion and invested my time.

Yayyyyy the member we all LOVE! The one who never pays us yet stalks us/declares love!

Really, you sound like a complete moron. You "refuse to be in the friendzone", then go for girls who might actually want you! Being in the friendzone of a camgirl is an honour! To be fair, chances are you probably weren't even there.
Grow up, and please get a life, and please please please, never come and visit my room.
It is people like you which is why I'm rarely nice on mfc/acf.

 

[AmberCutie]

I think some people lack the ability to discern an "addiction to the attention" and "love" when it comes to their favorite camgirls. Even I have gone through phases where I get sort of addicted to hanging out with a particular model. I'll try to be there every time she's online, enjoy exchanging tweets or messages with her, and get very giddy when she talks to me directly in her public chat. Am I in love? No, I am a bit addicted, but I could see how someone without the ability to rationalize cam girl behavior could think so.

And for FUCKS SAKE! It isn't just European girls that have this effect on people. Holy balls. STAHP.

 

[ComicOzzie]

Based on this thread, I will immediately cut off all communications with the continent of Europe.

Just to be sure.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

Based on this thread, I will immediately cut off all communications with the continent of Europe.

Just to be sure.

Don't forget Britain/Ireland, remember, we're part of europe to and should be punished just as much!

But.... as St Nicholas is European, if you choose to cut us out, you won't be getting your stocking filled this year....

 

[LindseyDoll]

Dude, I think you simply lack the emotional maturity to be on cam sites, and just to be on the safe side I would recommend that you never step foot into a strip club either.

 

[Anonymous]

Love you Lily

And generalizing all European camgirls (or all Romanian camgirls for that matter!) is never cool and makes you look ignorant.

Both you and Lily are awesome.

I haven't send money, but I have sent emotion and invested my time.

Yayyyyy the member we all LOVE! The one who never pays us yet stalks us/declares love!

I admit that I rolled my eyes too when I read that part. If only 'emotion' and 'invested time' could convert to dollar bills. LOL.

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

Most (not for much longer) American, Canadian, and many Latin woman come from European roots. They are infected with the untrustworthy, and money scheming genes also. (Plus when they die they turn into zombies). So I'd advise cutting off communication with them and just sticking with the cute Asian girls, they luv you looong time and African woman are probably safe also. :twocents-02cents:

 

[Shaun__]

I admit that I rolled my eyes too when I read that part. If only 'emotion' and 'invested time' could convert to dollar bills. LOL.

I see so many freeloading members, basics, and guests who are in such deep love with the models they seem to know nothing about, based on the things they say to them.

 

[AprilCarroll]

Being in the friendzone of a camgirl is an honour!

THIS! Every once in a while I find a guy attractive on MFC, but the only real feelings I have for anyone on that site are feelings of friendship, and that is very rare. There are a few guys whom I care for as friends, and those guys really stand out of the crowd. They are my favorites, the guys who make me love what I do.

For a camgirl to befriend you is a huge compliment; she values your company and opinions, and she genuinely cares about you as a person. She's like the bar tender at your favorite bar who pours you a drink on the house and asks about your family. Do not mistake that friendliness for love, and don't forget that you know her far better than she knows you. While you're watching her -- seeing her home, her pets, noticing her mannerisms, hearing her accent, etc. -- she doesn't see anything but text (and the occasional penis).

Like every other camgirl who has responded to you, I try to give the guys in my room a place where they can relax, have fun, and escape their day-to-day lives for a bit. Aside from some warm and fuzzy friendship feelings for a few regulars (and aside from physical attraction to a few guys who are just fucking sexy - heyyy boys!), no emotions are involved. It's just fun. That's all.

I am sorry to hear that you're heartbroken, though. Hopefully talking about it here has brought everything into focus a bit so you can move on.

 

[LadyLuna]

April, you said most everything I wanted to say.

Except the bit about "European camgirls". I don't know how many times I've had guys declare their undying love for me, and how many times guys have said "I'm sorry, I think I'm falling in love with you. I can't come see you anymore."

The thing is, we are entertainers. Most of us put our best on camera, or at least our second best. How much do you really know about this woman? Do you know her fears, her hopes for the future, her hopes for the far future, how many offline friends she has, where she grew up, what sort of social class she grew up in, what kinds of schools she went to, how many schools she went to, where she's lived and when, what her family is like, her religion, politics, and ideals? Do you know what her actual sex-life is like, her offline sexual preferences, whether she wants to be in an open relationship, d/s style relationship (as either the dom or the sub), kept like a pet or treated like a queen? Do you know what her daily routine is like, what her issues, skeletons, and triumphs are?

If any one of those things is a mystery to you, how well do you actually know her? The big ones are: religion, politics, fears, ideals, hopes, issues, skeletons, triumphs, friends, and family. Any one of those things could end up making her to be not the person you think she is.

 

[Swirl]

I don't get it. How can you consider yourself to be 'fodder' if you didn't give her any money? Because you invested your emotions? Come on. How much did you give her?

 

[mynameisbob84]

I don't get it. How can you consider yourself to be 'fodder' if you didn't give her any money? Because you invested your emotions? Come on. How much did you give her?

:dance:

 

[Bocefish]

Maybe there could be a Broken Hearts Club thread where all the imagined camgirl love affairs that went nowhere people can commiserate with each other. :mrgreen:

 

[PunkInDrublic]

It is people like you which is why I'm rarely nice on mfc/acf.

You let delusional, slightly racist dudes affect your mood? Also, gotta add that you sounded like a complete moron and were told to grow up recently so maybe you should chill and take your own advice. Or is it that only camgirls can call out stupid comments but when they say something silly and someone calls them out on it, its trollish?

 

[mynameisbob84]

Maybe there could be a Broken Hearts Club thread where all the imagined camgirl love affairs that went nowhere people can commiserate with each other. :mrgreen:

"I never even tipped mine. But she still spoke to me. That means she loved me at least a little, right?"
"Mine used to speak to me outside of MFC. That definitely means she loved me"
"Mine laughed at my jokes and told me I was sweet!"
"Mine looked at my cam and told me I was hot!!!"
"Mine told me she was only camming for the money. I think she was just waiting for me to save her. I mean, she never said that exactly, but the way she smiled her melancholy smile, the far away look in her eyes, the sound of her soul ebbing away as she sighed whenever I asked about meeting up in real life... yeah, she was definitely waiting for me to save her"

 

[Zoomer]

So was I, I don't think people go to those sites to find a relationship. But as with everything if you spend enough time with someone feelings develop. I already stated that I had no intention for this to happen and It really is my fault for feeling this way. I know myself better than that, I should have stuck to my gut. I selfishly wanted a place to vent

Glad you said that - as I would point out that unless you've been specifically conned by being told they love you, want to marry you, etc - then the only person conning yourself is... you.

Yes, feelings develop.

Is it the girls fault you fall in love with them? No, it isn't.

Is it their fault you throw money at them and wildly dream they'll suddenly fall in love with this guy who throws money at them whilst watching then masturbate? No, it isn't (granted, you didn't... but still - time is money, so time = money or whatever that old joke about women being the root of all evil goes )

So unless the girls have been specifically conning with regards to "come meet me bb and we'll fuck... if you can pay for my house/mortgage/car/school/ice cream " then the only people conning someone are yourselves. If you proportion blame onto the ladies at this point (of realization, or before) you need a good fashioned slap. Its your own fault - don't blame her. Or perhaps you think she's complicit in the guilt because she didn't insult you and cause you to dislike her.

However, I do understand the "need to retreat" if you have developed feelings for someone and believe it is the best thing for you - that's fine and dandy.

But when guys start blaming the girls for their delusions - it makes me think of primary school children... as kids always say it is never their fault

 

[RedHerby]

Don't forget Britain/Ireland, remember, we're part of europe to

As long as you poms, limeies, tommies & rost beefs remember that !

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100304176
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news ... n-union-eu
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/28/world ... .html?_r=0

 

[ComicOzzie]

Based on this thread, I will immediately cut off all communications with the continent of Europe.

Just to be sure.

Don't forget Britain/Ireland, remember, we're part of europe to and should be punished just as much!

But.... as St Nicholas is European, if you choose to cut us out, you won't be getting your stocking filled this year....

Fuck it! That's too complicated. I'd better just cut off the entire Eastern Hemisphere. Now let me see exactly where that prime meridian is. :geek:

 

[AmberCutie]

Aside from addressing the "European" comment, I feel like a lot of the posts are being a bit harsh.

Yes, and not just from our friend Punk, either...

 

[UncleThursday]

It is people like you which is why I'm rarely nice on mfc/acf.

You let delusional, slightly racist dudes affect your mood? Also, gotta add that you sounded like a complete moron and were told to grow up recently so maybe you should chill and take your own advice. Or is it that only camgirls can call out stupid comments but when they say something silly and someone calls them out on it, its trollish?

Hey hey hey! What does the Reginator have to do with this?

I still remember being in the first press conference at E3 he hosted. Many of us left being like "where have they hid that guy?" The initial fascination has worn off by now, though. But, he is still the Reginator.

 

[RedHerby]

Don't forget Britain/Ireland, remember, we're part of europe to

As long as you poms, limeies, tommies & rost beefs remember that !

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100304176
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news ... n-union-eu
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/28/world ... .html?_r=0

hmmm, now I read my own posting back it looks a bit hard ... so not the intention .... I just found the quoute "we're part of europe to" from someone of the biggest European island so funny ... they don't say that a lot there :dance:

 

[Kickaz]

I thought this thread had to do with the Mayan calendar lol