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haha, ok technically I haven't invested in any useless commemorative kitsch but I will be receiving a call from my grandma at 4am to herald the start of the event and I will probably cam from the living room that day so I don't miss any of the festivities!
This is my future King and Queen assuming they don't dissolve the monarchy in the next 40 years! God Save the Queen. The Americans just aren't into it because neither William or Kate have ever had their own reality TV show, but for many Canadians it's terribly exciting. How much is the royal wedding costing the British tax payer? And it is in direct wedding costs or security or what? There'd be a little bit of a tourism boost eh?
I'll be watching it smiling like a goon, cuz I'm such a geek AND they're both just so smexy.
A pussy stuffed commemorative tea towel would make a fucking fantastic raffle item, lulz
haha, ok technically I haven't invested in any useless commemorative kitsch but I will be receiving a call from my grandma at 4am to herald the start of the event and I will probably cam from the living room that day so I don't miss any of the festivities!
This is my future King and Queen assuming they don't dissolve the monarchy in the next 40 years! God Save the Queen. The Americans just aren't into it because neither William or Kate have ever had their own reality TV show, but for many Canadians it's terribly exciting. How much is the royal wedding costing the British tax payer? And it is in direct wedding costs or security or what? There'd be a little bit of a tourism boost eh?
I'll be watching it smiling like a goon, cuz I'm such a geek AND they're both just so smexy.
A pussy stuffed commemorative tea towel would make a fucking fantastic raffle item, lulz
It's annoying me too, I'm not interested in anyones wedding unless they're a family or friend. It's like all those celeb magazines that think people really want to know about random people getting married just coz they're famous or whatever.
I don't know why anyone buys any of the stuff with them all over it, and if I was them, I'd be a bit freaked out that someone was eating their dinner off my face lol. Ooh they should do some bog roll and toilet seats too so everyone can shit on them then wipe their arses with them. :-D
I don't know why anyone buys any of the stuff with them all over it, and if I was them, I'd be a bit freaked out that someone was eating their dinner off my face lol. Ooh they should do some bog roll and toilet seats too so everyone can shit on them then wipe their arses with them. :-D
Pervs_INC said:
Erm, a few points first about the Royal Family - and the Queen. Her role is like that of a President, and her children/grand children are born into a life whereby they are servants of the nation until the day they die.
1) They are part of the head of state, and their function involves spending their entire lives (when not in a formal job, such as William and Harry in the armed forces) working for the UK Govt's interests... The Queen is 85 and still works, whereas UK citizens retire at 65 (ladies at 60). She does something like 280 functions per year - travelling the length and breadth of the country to open hospitals, buildings, visits and shake hands with hundreds of thousands of people. The members of the family that elect/opt not to public work are not supported. The Queen may choose to support them out of her own finances.
2)
means that money earnt from the estate goes to the govt, whilst the govt then pays the royal family expense... which is estimated at £50 million. Of course, big events like this will cost a bloody fortune simply due to policing and security - however, since Football clubs do not pay the police to have them attend, and this is a free public event for the nation - why should they pay for police? Imagine who else should pay for the police! Trying a protest "yes, but we estimate policing costs at £3 million - so please pay up front and we'll let you have your protest"
3) The income generated through tourism, related to the crown, is huge - billions and billions per year. The income that'll be generated through this couple in their lifetime will be well beyond the costs of the wedding. The chances are that tourism for the wedding alone is going to pay several times over for the whole wedding. Tourism spreads to everything (airlines, airports, taxi's, shops, hotels) as well as memorabilia. I would not be surprised if the US were the biggest purchasers of said memorabilia.
4) The wedding is of national interest and public importance. In this country there appears to be precious little that everyone can celebrate for "free". This isn't just a local event, it's a global event, with many many countries of the world watching. They could easily have had the wedding in private, away from prying eyes - but imagine the uproar that would have caused! "Why are we paying for the royal family when they hide everything away". They're damned if they do, damned if they don't...
5) The scene where George Bush met the Queen, bumbled, didn't know what to say, how to act, or anything else - is priceless and worth 50p to see it every time :lol:
If you really want to complain about the cost, then start with the fact it is a bank holiday on the day of the wedding. The cost to UK business could be astronomical (if you divide the overall yearly output into days and say it's worth one days work - of course that's an awful way to attribute "national cost"), but no-one moans about the extra holiday day...only the perceived cost to the taxpayer directly.
It may cost you 50p for a paid day off work... (where 50p represents the entire cost of the wedding of taxpaying public).
It should be noted that Charles, meanwhile, pays entirely out of his Duchy's income.
Honestly, there's a huge negative push by certain media areas against the Royal Family and their portrayed "cost to the nation". There's thousands, maybe ten's of thousands, of jobs that benefit from maintaining the Royal Family as heads of state.
If you hadn't noticed, I am a staunch supporter of the Royal Family, and greatly admire the way they go about business (the Queen in particular). I don't lap up media stories, don't own anything "Royal" and probably won't even watch the wedding either... but I am tired of people complaining about the cost without realising the asset that the Royal Family is for the nation. The media go overboard, which is highly irritating, but then given the amount of negative news we hear - it is refreshing there's a piece that's positive for once.
For this whole post - people never seem to know what the Royal Family does/means - if you did, then apologies
I'm not trying to come across as militant, but offer up several good reasons why the public do foot the bill for such a huge public event, and why the Royal Family don't really deserve scorn or hatred unless there is better reason than "the media won't shut up" or "they cost me 50p a year!".About 20% of the population want a Republic, but the only reason I ever hear is due to "they cost money" and "its old fashioned". A president has the same role as the queen, and apparently some cost their public more than the Queen does ours! Of course, Presidents don't really bring in tourist money...
LOL it must be really annoying to be in the UK right now. A member on mfc made a commemorative banner..wtf.
Heard her wedding dress cost close to half a million dollars.
Wonder if there will be any spotted dick on the menu?
Wonder if there will be any spotted dick on the menu?
I want canned spotted dick! lol
I did some of my early schooling in London and still remember spotted dick for school lunch hahah, never seen it since.
So I was wondering...her dad's a plumber, so assuming they have a son, who will someday become king and he marries a girl who's dad is I dunno...a takeaway store owner...and presumably this keeps going like...in 2 or 3 generations are we going to have a couple of dustmen's kids on the throne??
And it's not even that there's anything wrong with that - aside from upbringing there's no difference between royal blood and working class blood, except...their entire monarchy is predicated on the belief that there IS.
I'm not in favour of them marrying their cousins, but the whole reason they did it in the first place was to reinforce legitimacy - claim to the throne. If in three generations only one set of great grandparents was actually descended from the house of windsor by blood...then they might not even have the strongest claim to the throne anymore.
I think this is as good as a death sentence for the monarchy - which to me is a bit of a shame from a historical point of view, but no big deal in the great scheme. I think it's an odd move though. I doubt they'll get their billions of pounds a year when they're just Mr and Mrs Windsor, and virtually everything they own belongs to the British people.
I did some of my early schooling in London and still remember spotted dick for school lunch hahah, never seen it since.
So I was wondering...her dad's a plumber, so assuming they have a son, who will someday become king and he marries a girl who's dad is I dunno...a takeaway store owner...and presumably this keeps going like...in 2 or 3 generations are we going to have a couple of dustmen's kids on the throne??
And it's not even that there's anything wrong with that - aside from upbringing there's no difference between royal blood and working class blood, except...their entire monarchy is predicated on the belief that there IS.
I'm not in favour of them marrying their cousins, but the whole reason they did it in the first place was to reinforce legitimacy - claim to the throne. If in three generations only one set of great grandparents was actually descended from the house of windsor by blood...then they might not even have the strongest claim to the throne anymore.
I think this is as good as a death sentence for the monarchy - which to me is a bit of a shame from a historical point of view, but no big deal in the great scheme. I think it's an odd move though. I doubt they'll get their billions of pounds a year when they're just Mr and Mrs Windsor, and virtually everything they own belongs to the British people.
Bocefish said:Heard her wedding dress cost close to half a million dollars.
Depends, when it was first reported they said there were 6 dresses being made... Not her choice, but attempts to keep the dress secret until the day (from what I understood - it should be said I read it in a newspaper - maybe the Telegraph or Times - and it was two months ago, so memory is hazy!).
As for spotted dick, I'm hungry now - not had that in years :drool:
Zoomer said:Pervs_INC said:
Erm, a few points first about the Royal Family - and the Queen. Her role is like that of a President, and her children/grand children are born into a life whereby they are servants of the nation until the day they die.
1) They are part of the head of state, and their function involves spending their entire lives (when not in a formal job, such as William and Harry in the armed forces) working for the UK Govt's interests... The Queen is 85 and still works, whereas UK citizens retire at 65 (ladies at 60). She does something like 280 functions per year - travelling the length and breadth of the country to open hospitals, buildings, visits and shake hands with hundreds of thousands of people. The members of the family that elect/opt not to public work are not supported. The Queen may choose to support them out of her own finances.
2)means that money earnt from the estate goes to the govt, whilst the govt then pays the royal family expense... which is estimated at £50 million. Of course, big events like this will cost a bloody fortune simply due to policing and security - however, since Football clubs do not pay the police to have them attend, and this is a free public event for the nation - why should they pay for police? Imagine who else should pay for the police! Trying a protest "yes, but we estimate policing costs at £3 million - so please pay up front and we'll let you have your protest"
3) The income generated through tourism, related to the crown, is huge - billions and billions per year. The income that'll be generated through this couple in their lifetime will be well beyond the costs of the wedding. The chances are that tourism for the wedding alone is going to pay several times over for the whole wedding. Tourism spreads to everything (airlines, airports, taxi's, shops, hotels) as well as memorabilia. I would not be surprised if the US were the biggest purchasers of said memorabilia.
4) The wedding is of national interest and public importance. In this country there appears to be precious little that everyone can celebrate for "free". This isn't just a local event, it's a global event, with many many countries of the world watching. They could easily have had the wedding in private, away from prying eyes - but imagine the uproar that would have caused! "Why are we paying for the royal family when they hide everything away". They're damned if they do, damned if they don't...
5) The scene where George Bush met the Queen, bumbled, didn't know what to say, how to act, or anything else - is priceless and worth 50p to see it every time :lol:
If you really want to complain about the cost, then start with the fact it is a bank holiday on the day of the wedding. The cost to UK business could be astronomical (if you divide the overall yearly output into days and say it's worth one days work - of course that's an awful way to attribute "national cost"), but no-one moans about the extra holiday day...only the perceived cost to the taxpayer directly.
It may cost you 50p for a paid day off work... (where 50p represents the entire cost of the wedding of taxpaying public).
It should be noted that Charles, meanwhile, pays entirely out of his Duchy's income.
Honestly, there's a huge negative push by certain media areas against the Royal Family and their portrayed "cost to the nation". There's thousands, maybe ten's of thousands, of jobs that benefit from maintaining the Royal Family as heads of state.
If you hadn't noticed, I am a staunch supporter of the Royal Family, and greatly admire the way they go about business (the Queen in particular). I don't lap up media stories, don't own anything "Royal" and probably won't even watch the wedding either... but I am tired of people complaining about the cost without realising the asset that the Royal Family is for the nation. The media go overboard, which is highly irritating, but then given the amount of negative news we hear - it is refreshing there's a piece that's positive for once.
For this whole post - people never seem to know what the Royal Family does/means - if you did, then apologies
About 20% of the population want a Republic, but the only reason I ever hear is due to "they cost money" and "its old fashioned". A president has the same role as the queen, and apparently some cost their public more than the Queen does ours! Of course, Presidents don't really bring in tourist money...
I don`t get bank hollidays I have to work and it`s my right to complain,we shouldn't have to pay for there wedding.
Fair enough, complain away
What work do you do?(assuming something like police/ambulance/fire/medical/other area which doesn't have holiday breaks or working hours like most).
Wondering whether the bank holidays get added on to annual holiday time? (so you get 30 days instead of 25, or 25 instead of 20 etc).
Media is creating a mini political storm over the wedding at present
Two former PM's not invited, and instantly it's "must be govt in charge who had a hand in this" :lol:
I pay for schools I'll never use (dont have, cant have kids) and all the other myriad of shite that people sponge off the UK economy. This Wedding is piddly shit compared to all that.
I'm not arsed either way about having a Royal Family but I bet this wedding brings in more cash for the economy than being paid out by us.
Part of living in the UK is that we pay for stuff we don't want to but that is the way it is. Complain away but no one cares, really, no one cares except the people trying to sell you a newspaper.
I'm not arsed either way about having a Royal Family but I bet this wedding brings in more cash for the economy than being paid out by us.
Part of living in the UK is that we pay for stuff we don't want to but that is the way it is. Complain away but no one cares, really, no one cares except the people trying to sell you a newspaper.
Just_mark__ said:
Well, I hope you are correct, but highly doubt it. They won't be getting a dime from me. In fact, they can suck my Sovereign Sceptre!
All the TV rights etc and tourism/memorabilia? Directly we won't see it unless you work in any of those sectors but thats a phat load of foreign money coming into the country.
Bocefish said:Just_mark__ said:
Well, I hope you are correct, but highly doubt it. They won't be getting a dime from me. In fact, they can suck my Sovereign Sceptre!
I think indirectly, it may do. Simply because it's a bank holiday, which usually sees pub's doing great business. They think 600,000 more people will be in the capital specifically due to the wedding - and most will use public transport at around £5 each (conservative estimate) to get around London. This discounts the cost of getting to London (if they have to). Unless they come fully supplied, I imagine shops, restaurants and street sellers will do particularly well on the day compared to a normal Friday daytime. Stuff you buy has VAT on it (except food if I remember) at 20%, and then businesses pay tax, so it should help.
Of course all the journalists and photographers from around the world are staying in hotels, eating in restaurants ... and paid taxes and more to fly into and out of the country (as well as hire transport). Invited dignitaries (50 world leaders) will have more than just themselves turning up (however, unsure if we pay for their stay or they pay their own way?) - but if they're paying for themselves, that is probably a few hundred extra people in hotels too.
When it comes down to members of the public - the bank holiday may cost you individually as they are spending money they wouldn't have spent (they'd have been at work instead), but anything people spend to attend the wedding itself is entirely voluntary.
It would be nice to see a brief, yet indepth, analysis of the cost of it all (including the bank holiday, policing etc as well as the positives - and of course, the actual event itself).
Meh. If you're into it then cool but if you're not then just enjoy the day off. Why so angry?
I personally love the excuse to party!
I personally love the excuse to party!
LilyPink said:
I'm not angry, just sick and tired of it dominating the mainstream media for the past few weeks and them thinking we care about the stoopid hats along with all the other commercialized crap surrounding the wedding. Just fed up with it and will be glad when it's finally over, that's all. :mrgreen:
I guess I can understand that. I feel the same about things like the superbowl and the world cup etc
Lol Bocefish, I'm sorry just think it's funny that you say you're sick of hearing about it, yet you start a thread so you can hear about it some more?! :lol:
Meh, we all pay taxes for crap we don't want, that's life. Anyway, I think Kate's parents threw in a couple of hundred grand to help pay?
I will agree though, I don't get why it's such a big deal in the US, nothing to do will you guys at all.
For us Aussies though, I think we're just excited because the time difference is perfect, it's Friday evening here so basically a great excuse to get pissed!!! :dance:
Meh, we all pay taxes for crap we don't want, that's life. Anyway, I think Kate's parents threw in a couple of hundred grand to help pay?
I will agree though, I don't get why it's such a big deal in the US, nothing to do will you guys at all.
For us Aussies though, I think we're just excited because the time difference is perfect, it's Friday evening here so basically a great excuse to get pissed!!! :dance:
XxXIndiXxX said:
Yeah I know :lol: I was originally just going to vent in the daily thoughts thread but figured it was such a national event that it deserved a thread of it's own.
LMAO Lily, exactly! http://www.whyamericansshouldcareabouttheroyalwedding.com
I'm always concerned about how huge gatherings garnering national attention are a terrorist's wet dream, but extremely happy everything went well. That had to be a security nightmare and sooooooooo happy it's finally over!
:dance:
Another PILF, but WTF is up with with all the ridiculously gaudy hats?!? :lol: Maybe it's just me... but some of them seem to have lady bit overtones... clitoris and labias often come to mind for some reason. 
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/sns-royal-wedding-hats-pictures,0,2465632.photogallery
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/sns-royal-wedding-hats-pictures,0,2465632.photogallery
Never minding the fact that its royals... Just looking at williams life and his mothers struggles and death. Im bawling my eyes out because its a beautiful day for both of them. Looking at them and seeing the way they look at each other gives me the warm fuzzies. I know what the feeling of a wedding day is like, but im a sap.
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