The Chris Hansen of Street Prostitution

[Jupiter551]

I stumbled onto the weird part of youtube again (and this time it wasn't because of a decieving preview screen of a buxom woman). While there I found this creepy guy lol. The way he pops up and yells "You're busted buddy!" is kind of hilarious.

My guess is this is how Peeping Toms legitimise their fetish in the 21st lol First busting takes place about 1:20.


Edit: okay nevermind maybe it was the preview screen that got me...

 

[lordmagellan]

Motherfucker goin' to get shot.

 

[mynameisbob84]

Haha. I kinda feel bad for the Johns. They're "preying" on women in the same way that I "prey" on chocolate in the sweets section of the supermarket. You can't really "prey" on something that's openly for sale, ya know?

 

[Jupiter551]

Haha. I kinda feel bad for the Johns. They're "preying" on women in the same way that I "prey" on chocolate in the sweets section of the supermarket. You can't really "prey" on something that's openly for sale, ya know?

lol yeah, and he's preying on both of them lol.

I found it really odd that in a couple of those videos he mentions it's a felony if it's within 1000 feet of a church. Like wow...school I can understand, but church? Good job legislating on the basis of not offending the church, wowsers.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

Cannot stop laughing!!! I feel bad for the prostitutes but it's just so funny the guys being caught out!

What. a. loser. lol! How fucking weird would you have to be to actually do that?! The "victimising" the prostitutes in the parking lot was a completely incorrect use of word. They'd be victimised if the guy refused to pay them and then raped them.

How weird though, all these cars going to one parking lot.

One thing that did make me laugh was how ready all the guys were to drive off! They were gone in seconds! I guess they're probably driving automatics, but still!

There is a certain truth to what he said at the end about people doing it because they think it's anonymous. I'm pretty open with my camming because I don't believe it's wrong. I keep it fairly low profile in the way that I don't shout out to everyone if I had sex the night before, most people don't want to know that much info, but I actually much prefer people knowing about it. Generally if you're terrified about people finding out, it's because you probably shouldn't be doing it... like if you have a wife. There are people who are terrified of judgement alone, but most would still go and do things even if they were going to be judged, but they'd have to be a total bellend to do these things knowing they'll get caught and if getting caught means they'll cause a lot of pain to someone they love (this marks for all cheating). Most people who cheat don't think they'll get caught. Otherwise they'd do it right in front of the person they're with. Actually I've had that happen, it hurt, but actually hurt no more than being cheated on behind my back. So really it's much of the same.

I dunno, personally I find that kind of sex shopping strange, but it is a part of life, everyone does things that they wouldn't necessarily want everyone to know about, like some people like to hang around hookers, follow them and then film them with men. I find that creepy, and in the context kind of hilarious, but still, very creepy. There are certain things that I'd rather be behind closed doors. In this case, car doors, 4 of them, in a parking lot. You'd think if they were so scared of being found out they'd at least get a hotel!

 

[AshleyMarks]

I stumbled onto the weird part of youtube again (and this time it wasn't because of a decieving preview screen of a buxom woman). While there I found this creepy guy lol. The way he pops up and yells "You're busted buddy!" is kind of hilarious.

My guess is this is how Peeping Toms legitimise their fetish in the 21st lol First busting takes place about 1:20.


Edit: okay nevermind maybe it was the preview screen that got me...

Actually, this guy is no stranger to catching street prostitutes in the act. He is currently working with a not for profit organization call No Boundaries International in order to clean the streets and reach out to women stuck out on the street with no other alternative. He also has his own website : Johntv.com and strangely enough, I have talked to him and he seems like a good guy. I used to live in Oklahoma City at one point. He actually has a wife and stepson and is well known. He has appeared on the Maury Povich show and has been featured in British news cast documentaries. Some people frown at him in disgust, while tons of other people like myself show some support. He is helping to make the streets safer for children by helping NBO. Recently, a NY news anchor stole his footage and took watermarks off of it even though all of his stuff is legally copyrighted and gave Brian Bates no credit whatsoever for the footage. I think he has the right idea. That specific area where the lady is at has a school right up the road where children and their mothers often have to pass the illegal activities while on the way home. He has done a lot of good actually. Just Google him if you want to know more. @johntvokc on twitter.

 

[Nordling]

I suppose, but I found his text at 4:00 kind of a tell about his sense of ownership:

"This scenario of 'men' buying our young women repeats itself over and over again."

OUR young women? WTF?

 

[LilyEvans]

Does this guy honestly think he's helping anybody? Basically what is happening is he is making it harder for these girls to get paid, which is a loss for them whether or not they are "victims". If they are prostitutes by choice, they are losing income. If they were forced into this situation, how do you think their "handler" will react when they stop pulling in cash because some fucking weirdo with a video camera thinks he is saving them? And if the police see the tape, I have a feeling that the woman will be the one arrested, not the man-- even though they are both breaking the law.

This is weird, and depressing.

eta: I feel like if he really wants to help these women out he should spend time and money at a women's shelter, not stalking girls tryna make a buck. I dunno.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

Do I sense the kind of white knights who lurk around stolen video websites and then report them to the model, hoping she might give him some free stuff in return? Or maybe just to be "the hero".

 

[Jupiter551]

I get that he's trying to help, but if he claims the sex work is a product of drugs and pimps (which is what he claims) then why go after the girls and their johns, sure they're easy (and kinda sleazy) targets, but they aren't going to disappear while the causes still exist.

 

[Rose]

This video kind of reminded me of the time me and a certain someone got busted for parking. :lol: Car sex....Not half as much fun as it's cracked up to be.

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

As TV goes, I didn't find it nearly as compelling as Chris Hansen stuff. You generally really loath the pedophile by the time Chris busts them.
Of the stuff that could be reduced by public outing, humiliation etc, street prostitution is way down on my list of priorities. Way below drug dealing,and government corruption.
Good to know the guy isn't a douche bag though.

 

[dustinxxxizzle]

@Jupiter551

Are street walkers as common in Australia where brothels are legal?

Seems to me if the US legalized prostitution, and somehow made sure it was safe, street walkers and pimps would be dramatically reduced.

 

[LindseyDoll]

I do feel like it would be easier for everyone if prostitution was legal, regulated, and safe.
As for the guys in the video, that's what they get for trying to save a buck by not paying for a hotel. :lol:

 

[AshleyMarks]

I suppose, but I found his text at 4:00 kind of a tell about his sense of ownership:

"This scenario of 'men' buying our young women repeats itself over and over again."

OUR young women? WTF?

On the streets of OKC there are a lot of underaged prostitutes taken by pimps and promised a better life. Some as young as 15! Yes, that is young in my book.

Does this guy honestly think he's helping anybody? Basically what is happening is he is making it harder for these girls to get paid, which is a loss for them whether or not they are "victims". If they are prostitutes by choice, they are losing income. If they were forced into this situation, how do you think their "handler" will react when they stop pulling in cash because some fucking weirdo with a video camera thinks he is saving them? And if the police see the tape, I have a feeling that the woman will be the one arrested, not the man-- even though they are both breaking the law.

This is weird, and depressing.

eta: I feel like if he really wants to help these women out he should spend time and money at a women's shelter, not stalking girls tryna make a buck. I dunno.

He is helping them. There is a not for profit organization that he is working with to reach out to these women.

http://nbint.org/?page_id=111

Excerpt below taken from the NBI webpage.

Project HOPE:

Although located in the center of the US “Bible Belt”, devastation can still be found in this county of 715,755 people. With a “church on every corner”, there is still a sizeable population of homeless, oppressed, prostitutes and disadvantaged elderly in the inner city area. Officials report that on any given night in the OKC area, between 6000 – 8000 people are homeless. Crime, substance abuse, poverty, and oppression are just a few of the issues that plague the lives of many. NBI has identified a ministry hot zone in the heart of Oklahoma City where we are targeting the specific needs of the homeless, oppressed, prostitutes, elderly, and at-risk children and youth with our “Project Hope”. As you partner with us in Oklahoma county, typical activities may include:



Reaching out to prostitutes and those caught in the web of the sex trade (click here to find out more…)
Providing basic needs for the poor
Inner healing
Bible studies
Life skills training
Targeted outreaches
After school/summer children and youth programs
Prevention and wellness training
If you would like to be part of our Oklahoma City outreaches, contact us!

Also, a link to just one of the stories about what he has been doing to help the women:

http://johntv.com/no-boundaries-intl-hosts-open-house-for-s-robinson-ave-hope-house/

And another showing all searches on his site related to NBI:

http://johntv.com/?s=no+boundaries&x=0&y=0

 

[curvyredhead]

I suppose, but I found his text at 4:00 kind of a tell about his sense of ownership:

"This scenario of 'men' buying our young women repeats itself over and over again."

OUR young women? WTF?

On the streets of OKC there are a lot of underaged prostitutes taken by pimps and promised a better life. Some as young as 15! Yes, that is young in my book.

I think you missed the point (please correct me if I am wrong) on what Nordling was saying. It was not the YOUNG word he had a problem with...more the OUR word.
Taking ownership and all.

 

[Nordling]

I suppose, but I found his text at 4:00 kind of a tell about his sense of ownership:

"This scenario of 'men' buying our young women repeats itself over and over again."

OUR young women? WTF?

On the streets of OKC there are a lot of underaged prostitutes taken by pimps and promised a better life. Some as young as 15! Yes, that is young in my book.

I think you missed the point (please correct me if I am wrong) on what Nordling was saying. It was not the YOUNG word he had a problem with...more the OUR word.
Taking ownership and all.

Exactly. I'm always suspicious of the words "we" or "our" when someone is obviously only speaking for himself--and in this case, he owns no one.

As far as him catching "johns" with underage prostitutes, he should call the police, not act as a vigilante.

Hell, for that matter, he has no right to be using the word "bust." He isn't busting anyone, he's trespassing.

 

[Mirra]

He may be in it for the right reasons. He may be doing other things to help. He may be an overall decent guy. That video, however, wasn't very compelling for selling his mission. He came off as a bit of a lame creep to me anyway.

Exactly. I'm always suspicious of the words "we" or "our" when someone is obviously only speaking for himself--and in this case, he owns no one.

As far as him catching "johns" with underage prostitutes, he should call the police, not act as a vigilante.

Hell, for that matter, he has no right to be using the word "bust." He isn't busting anyone, he's trespassing.

I agree... mostly, but I think the whole parking lot thing makes trespassing a bit questionable.

 

[Jupiter551]

I'd love to hear what the girls say about him to their customers after he drives off lol "yeah whatever that weirdo does that all the time, hey pull round the back of the Krispy Kreme and we'll finish up"

 

[Nordling]

He may be in it for the right reasons. He may be doing other things to help. He may be an overall decent guy. That video, however, wasn't very compelling for selling his mission. He came off as a bit of a lame creep to me anyway.

Exactly. I'm always suspicious of the words "we" or "our" when someone is obviously only speaking for himself--and in this case, he owns no one.

As far as him catching "johns" with underage prostitutes, he should call the police, not act as a vigilante.

Hell, for that matter, he has no right to be using the word "bust." He isn't busting anyone, he's trespassing.

I agree... mostly, but I think the whole parking lot thing makes trespassing a bit questionable.

Oh, from a legal standpoint, no doubt. But to me, if someone opens my car door no matter where I am, to video tape and yell some shit at me, they're in my space--they're trespassing on my space.

 

[LilyEvans]

I don't doubt that his INTENTIONS are good, but "Bible Studies" and "outreach" don't seem like real solutions. Especially sabotaging these women at work seems like a poor idea because when they go back to their pimps with little or no money from all this coitus interruptus they will likely have the shit beat out of them. Pimps are no known for being kind and understanding.

 

[lordmagellan]

He may be in it for the right reasons. He may be doing other things to help. He may be an overall decent guy. That video, however, wasn't very compelling for selling his mission. He came off as a bit of a lame creep to me anyway.

Exactly. I'm always suspicious of the words "we" or "our" when someone is obviously only speaking for himself--and in this case, he owns no one.

As far as him catching "johns" with underage prostitutes, he should call the police, not act as a vigilante.

Hell, for that matter, he has no right to be using the word "bust." He isn't busting anyone, he's trespassing.

I agree... mostly, but I think the whole parking lot thing makes trespassing a bit questionable.

Oh, from a legal standpoint, no doubt. But to me, if someone opens my car door no matter where I am, to video tape and yell some shit at me, they're in my space--they're trespassing on my space.

And that's why I say "Motherfucker gonna get shot."

 

[Jupiter551]

He could at least call it "Intersexion" (get it? it's like intersection crossed with intervention and then mixed up with a little sex!)

 

[TashaDutch]

@Jupiter551

Are street walkers as common in Australia where brothels are legal?

Seems to me if the US legalized prostitution, and somehow made sure it was safe, street walkers and pimps would be dramatically reduced.

yeah streetwalkers... but not pimps... and definately not dirty pimps.. it just gives me more cover to hide up their assholeness... and crimes

i always thought it was a good thing to have prostitutes... in whatever way.... imagine how many of these guys could turn to violance and rape when these girls wouldn't be there...

 

[Jupiter551]

@Jupiter551

Are street walkers as common in Australia where brothels are legal?

Seems to me if the US legalized prostitution, and somehow made sure it was safe, street walkers and pimps would be dramatically reduced.

I don't know tbh, there would for sure be streetwalkers, dunno how many though, and if there are it would be in specific streets etc but I wouldn't even know where.

For one thing though there will always be some people who don't want the brothel taking a cut I guess, also guys with fetishes for public sex maybe?

I used to live in an area that was a bit of a red light district about 10 years ago and yeah there were streetwalkers around, I became friendly with some. Most had heroin habits, I dunno maybe brothel's won't take all girls, or ones with heavy habits - and if that's the case they will end up back on the corner.

As for pimps...I don't know but I never saw any that I know of.

 

[Just Me]

@Jupiter551

Are street walkers as common in Australia where brothels are legal?

Seems to me if the US legalized prostitution, and somehow made sure it was safe, street walkers and pimps would be dramatically reduced.

I don't know tbh, there would for sure be streetwalkers, dunno how many though, and if there are it would be in specific streets etc but I wouldn't even know where.

For one thing though there will always be some people who don't want the brothel taking a cut I guess, also guys with fetishes for public sex maybe?

I used to live in an area that was a bit of a red light district about 10 years ago and yeah there were streetwalkers around, I became friendly with some. Most had heroin habits, I dunno maybe brothel's won't take all girls, or ones with heavy habits - and if that's the case they will end up back on the corner.

As for pimps...I don't know but I never saw any that I know of.

My guess is the brothels, since they are government regulated, will not let someone with a known drug addiction work there. Drug addicts tend to take more risks and that would not be something they would want to be held liable. Plus you have the problem that HIV and Hepatitis is more likely in IV drug users.

 

[AllisonWilder]

I don't doubt that his INTENTIONS are good, but "Bible Studies" and "outreach" don't seem like real solutions. Especially sabotaging these women at work seems like a poor idea because when they go back to their pimps with little or no money from all this coitus interruptus they will likely have the shit beat out of them. Pimps are no known for being kind and understanding.

This so much. And honestly, it could lead to a bad reaction from the "johns" too. I can't imagine that this dude is always able to catch up to someone to see that the girl was dropped off unharmed.

 

[Jupiter551]

Yeah I'm sure the girls really appreciate him self-righteously intervening, when they're beaten by their pimp for making nothing, or hungry or can't pay their rent or whatever dire financial circumstance forced them into street prostitution in the first place

 

[IsabellaSnow]

In england prostitution is legal but pimping, kerb crawling and advertising isn't. Which I guess is a good thing because if a girl did belong to an agency it'd be the "pimp" who would get punished rather than the girls.

There are still street walkers, underage prostitutes, pimping, all kinds of really nasty things that happen in the sex industry here.

One time me and my female friend were in soho(London) as our gay best friend had an argument with his ex boyfriend. We were standing out in the street and the amount of guys who tried to pick us up, some really unpleasant about it. I'm really against kerb crawling, it's just disgusting and dangerous for girls who aren't prostitutes who just happen to be waiting in an area. Especially when men get used to the idea they can have/buy women off the street, it can turn into people getting more aggressive if we refuse them.

In cases like in Amsterdam because advertising is legal it means all the prostitution(in theory) is kept to those streets, the girls hire the booths for x time, and hopefully make x amount, most can work for themselves, it means it's a fairly safe and legal way to do it. On the downside for people who aren't prostitutes/interested in hiring them it means you'll get lots of sex tourists/people who go looking to buy sex.
Another thing about Amsterdam and the red light district is you'd hope men would treat non prostitutes with more respect and save their sleaze for the girls in the windows. But I've found the opposite it true, the male tourists will get excited and used to all these girls being available and will start treating every woman as a prostitute.
My cousins lived in Holland for a long time, growing up I went to Amsterdam many times, and I have to say, I never noticed anything non respectable about it. It pretty much is just those few streets, so if you don't want to go to those two streets, you probably won't find them.
Last time I went there I went with friends and stayed in the red light district. Personally I think although it was a fun novelty for a few days, the rest of Amsterdam and Holland has so much more that people never bother to see.

I don't know how it is in the states, but prostitution will always have a dirty side to it because of the nature of the work whether it's legal or not. There will always be men who'll pressure teenage girls into it etc. It's just too easy and sadly there are enough men who will take advantage of it/won't care about her age/willingness.
The truth is also that prostitution will never be a really desirable job, even though many women who do it enjoy it, it's not something that most women who choose it will make a light decision about, meaning there are a lot of women who do it because they're addicted to drugs/very poor/have issues. There's nothing you can really do about that, like camming it pays more than a regular job, the majority of women would rather not have the extra cash.

This guy would be better off doing a charity/support group for women who are thinking of or have got involved in the sex industry and want to get out, maybe helping them out with money, drug habits, safety etc. Letting them know it's available and then leaving alone the women who do choose to do it.

 

[AssCork]

Legality aside, I don't appreciate the overtones of the text ("victimizing" "abuse"), he deliberately cheapens the words in order to extole the "virtues" of his "cause".

White Knighting in real life will get you shot.
Chasing-down the people you just caught on video in an intimate moment will get you drug out of your vehicle and shot again.

I bet the bloopers are hysterical;

1) man picks up wife/girlfriend at store
2) swing by an ATM before shopping
3) decide on a quickie before heading into Target
4) Redneck-style ass whoopin when "Yer Busted, Buddy!" turns into "Stop Vidya'in my WIFE, Perv!!"