Terrible Cam Score

[AvaJames]

I am new to MFC (about a month) but i havent been working as much as i would like, because my cam score is so awful! When i was brand new, i never started with 1000 cam score. it was like 700?... and because its so low, hardly anyone traffics my room, making it really hard for me to start a show, and earn enough to raise my score. so it just keeps dropping... its like an endless cycle.
I may not be the prettiest thing in the world, but i feel like im attractive enough, have a good personality, and always talk to my guests.I am running out of ideas for what to talk about/do in my room, because theres no one there!!!
& no one ever tips, (only 10-20 tks here and there) so im not even given a chance to meet a goal to start a public show, to keep anyone interested. I really really want this to work, and i dont want to give up. But im thinking about giving up on MFC...maybe im just not what members want? im not sure. if anyone has any advice for me.. please help me out! if anyone would be nice enough to view my room while im online... or ANYTHING they can think of? i would soo appreciate it.
I am having such a rough time!!!


http://profiles.myfreecams.com/AvaJames
https://twitter.com/AvaJamesLove

 

[LacieLaPlante]

Everyone start's with 1000. Don't stay online when you're not making tokens. If it gets much worse, jump ship to another site. No reason to think you're not beautiful because things just aren't working out.

 

[AvaJames]

See thats what i thought! I thought everyone started with 1000, but damn i guess it mustve jumped down to 700 real fast without me noticing it was ever 1000. lol Thanks!

 

[LacieLaPlante]

Camscore is tokens/hour in a 60 day period, if you become a verified model, theres a lot more information for you to access.

 

[curvyredhead]

Hey and welcome to the forum
A couple things....First of all...If you'd really like to make the best out of this forum I suggest getting verified as a model. This way you can access the model only section and gain a ton of information.

viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2286&start=480


Everyone does start off with a 1000 camscore

Also--remember there are way more cam sites out there that do not have a camscore. A popular one that I have heard some great things about is streamate.
If you are seriously set on making MFC your site--You might want to consider using other sites just for a bit to possibly build up a following to bring with you, wherever you are!
At the end of the day camscore is just TPH (tokens per hour) so if you are not making tokens...you have to sign off if you want a high camscore...or higher in general.

You will find way more detailed information in the models only section.

 

[PinkiePixi]

When I started in August my CS tanked - the lowest it went was about down to around 640. I kept on working though, the most important part was keeping consistent hours I found (or at least a consistent log in time), and figuring out when to sign off if stuff was slow. At first though - I didnt make *any* countdowns *ever*. The only money I ever made were from flashes and from playing games (my most popular was lucky draw - 25tks and they could draw a prize from a bucket). I wont lie - it took awhile. It took me two months of feeling crappy about myself and working at least an hour almost every single day of the month for below minimum wage usually to even get back up to a CS of 1000. But I kept on trying, and since then its only gotten better for me.

MFC is a fickle beast though, and its not for everyone and certainly requires a bit of luck. Give another site a shot if you feel like MFC isnt for you! At least until you can better figure out what works for you, and maybe get some guys to bring over with you! I agree though that you should get model status here so you can access that part of the forum - way more help in there!

 

[PlayboyMegan]

Don't stay logged on to PM members if you aren't showing your cam, or to perv on models.

 

[Poker_Babe]

Don't stay logged on to PM members if you aren't showing your cam, or to perv on models.

Thank you! I know a lot of girls still debate whether or not being logged into the homepage on your model account effects your score. But I KNOW THAT IT DOES. I remember finally getting my score back up to just over 1K. I let my friend (who also cams) on my computer. She went onto the homepage to check out some of the chat rooms and "do her homework" (so to speak). But she didn't realize that I was still logged in. So she was on the site for a good few hours (at least) just browsing different chat rooms and hanging out. When I finally realized that I was logged in all that time, I went to go check my score and it had dropped over 300 points (ugh).
So yeah, anytime you show up as "online" on the homepage and not making tokens, it DOES effect your score.

 

[PlayboyMegan]

Don't stay logged on to PM members if you aren't showing your cam, or to perv on models.

Thank you! I know a lot of girls still debate whether or not being logged into the homepage on your model account effects your score. But I KNOW THAT IT DOES. I remember finally getting my score back up to just over 1K. I let my friend (who also cams) on my computer. She went onto the homepage to check out some of the chat rooms and "do her homework" (so to speak). But she didn't realize that I was still logged in. So she was on the site for a good few hours (at least) just browsing different chat rooms and hanging out. When I finally realized that I was logged in all that time, I went to go check my score and it had dropped over 300 points (ugh).
So yeah, anytime you show up as "online" on the homepage and not making tokens, it DOES effect your score.

I agree. Many models say it doesn't, but until MFC says it as FACT, why risk it? Same thing happened to me and a friend. She couldn't get her CS up because she was logged on all night just PMing guys without Camming or making tips. Once she stopped her CS raised greatly.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

Don't stay logged on to PM members if you aren't showing your cam, or to perv on models.

Thank you! I know a lot of girls still debate whether or not being logged into the homepage on your model account effects your score. But I KNOW THAT IT DOES. I remember finally getting my score back up to just over 1K. I let my friend (who also cams) on my computer. She went onto the homepage to check out some of the chat rooms and "do her homework" (so to speak). But she didn't realize that I was still logged in. So she was on the site for a good few hours (at least) just browsing different chat rooms and hanging out. When I finally realized that I was logged in all that time, I went to go check my score and it had dropped over 300 points (ugh).
So yeah, anytime you show up as "online" on the homepage and not making tokens, it DOES effect your score.

I agree. Many models say it doesn't, but until MFC says it as FACT, why risk it? Same thing happened to me and a friend. She couldn't get her CS up because she was logged on all night just PMing guys without Camming or making tips. Once she stopped her CS raised greatly.

I do this all the time, spend hours logged on, sometimes just in the backround, often chatting to people, when I stop my score doesn't raise and it has never gone down from it. From Amber's token per hour thing on the camscore page my score is pretty much exactly what it should be. I don't think it does go down, at least I really hope it doesn't! I haven't had any evidence that it does count though. Actually I get a lot of offline tips because I chat to people on the homepage which is one thing that has made my score go up!

From your profile pics you definitely look like an attractive girl! Get your account on here verified and read through as much info as you can! There are tons of threads on things like this, it's pretty amazing. Check out the camscore thread too and work out how many tokens per hour you need to bring your score up to 1000, then work from there.
Like other girls said, you may want to move onto another site if mfc doesn't work for you, you can always come back to it. Myfreecams can be tough, even when you have a decent score. Some girls get lucky, many don't, some girls work their way up and do really well, some girls work their arses off and it comes to nothing.

 

[Poker_Babe]

Actually I get a lot of offline tips because I chat to people on the homepage which is one thing that has made my score go up!

You see, you said it yourself... you're getting offline tips. If you're making tokens while you're doing this, of course it's not going to hurt you.

 

[AmberCutie]

The only time your camscore is being affected is when your cam is on. This means in "away", "private", "group" or "public chat".

We have had it confirmed.

Fluctuations in your camscore happen all the time, day in, day out, whether you are online or not. It is based on a site average, which changes constantly.

So yeah, anytime you show up as "online" on the homepage and not making tokens, it DOES effect your score.

You have to be broadcasting/have your cam on/your chat room open in order to show up on the homepage. So yes, this statement is true.

 

[Poker_Babe]

So yeah, anytime you show up as "online" on the homepage and not making tokens, it DOES effect your score.

You have to be broadcasting/have your cam on/your chat room open in order to show up on the homepage. So yes, this statement is true.

Being logged into the homepage as a model does make you show up as on line. See, Here's me logged in to the home page on my premium account using Firefox at the same time being logged into the home page as a model using Google Chrome. The model software or browser software was not in use.



When I closed the page that was logged in as a model, I dropped off of the friends list on my premium account.

 

[AmberCutie]

So yeah, anytime you show up as "online" on the homepage and not making tokens, it DOES effect your score.

You have to be broadcasting/have your cam on/your chat room open in order to show up on the homepage. So yes, this statement is true.

Being logged into the homepage as a model does make you show up as on line. See, Here's me logged in to the home page on my premium account using Firefox at the same time being logged into the home page as a model using Google Chrome. The model software or browser software was not in use.



When I closed the page that was logged in as a model, I dropped off of the friends list on my premium account.

Homepage means the middle part, the sidebar just shows you online as a member.

 

[AmberCutie]

Image created for people confused by my last comment. (click to enlarge)



If you choose not to trust this, feel free.

Edited to add, from the main MFC camscore thread in models only:

sent email to support asking about broadcaster and camscore and here is what reply i got.


Being signed on to the site without your cam on will not effect your camscore."

 

[curvyredhead]

Well I never show up in the 2nd row...does that mean my camscore is never effected?


I kid i kid.

 

[AmberCutie]

Well I never show up in the 2nd row...does that mean my camscore is never effected?


I kid i kid.

:angry4:

Kidding. No rage.

I just don't want 100's of models to be afraid to sign on (without broadcasting) to chat in PM with people because a handful of models here don't trust what we've learned over the last couple years. I think a lot of newer models are confused about what the difference between "online" and "broadcasting" is.

The one thing that I am still not completely sure about is the model software. I am firmly in the belief that girls should not be using it anymore as it is old and outdated, and the browser broadcaster works so much better anyway. But the fact that on the model software you can actually enter your chat room without turning your cam on, it makes me wonder/afraid that it does treat your status differently.

So to be safe, I would only log on to chat via PM on the model web broadcaster http://www.myfreecams.com/modelweb/ or on the homepage and NOT on the software. And if you're going to edit your profile and make changes to your account, do so at http://profiles.myfreecams.com/?action=iframe&src=news and your name won't even show online on peoples' friend lists.

Camscore is one of those things that I am pretty damn comfortable with the grasp I have on it, so when people would rather make their own rash hypotheses about it instead of look at all the information that I've compiled over the years, it sorta feels like "why do I even try?"

Meh. Maybe I'm just in one of those moods. Probably should just let people think what they want and only worry about myself for a bit before I get all huffy.

 

[PlayboyMegan]

The one thing that I am still not completely sure about is the model software.

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I should add, that my friend and I both noticed this while logged into the model software, not the new model broadcaster. (hope I used those terms correctly) And I'm pretty sure Poker was referring to the outdated model software, as well.
So it was while I was logged onto the model software, I wasn't "on cam" nor "away" but did show up as online and I did watch my CS drop within that time, literally right before my eyes, even though I did not cam that day at all. Maybe the new model broadcaster doesn't have that effect. Maybe both me, poker, and my friend are nuts. *shrugs* I don't know, but if a new model is struggling with her CS, I don't see why she should even risk it unless she feels stable enough to.

 

[AmberCutie]

The model web broadcaster does not have that effect. Sounds like the software does.

 

[curvyredhead]

I don't know man.

I read the camscore thread a billion times---and i really feel like it has most things coverd.

I check my TPH against my camscore almost every time it flucustes...and it MAKES SENSE.

It's just not much of a mystery anymore.

With that said---i do not use the soft-where anymore. But, mainly because i would be missing out on so many features.
I do stay logged on to the broadcaster (with out any effect on my camscore) for hours at a time, sometimes over night.

 

[Poker_Babe]

Oh and I'm sure that MFC most likely changes the smaller details in the formula (or algorithms) they use to determine camscores from time to time as well. For example, I've notice that doing certain things like uploading pics to a private gallery would always raise my score a couple of points. Ya know, just little things like that. They keep the exact formula for how they calculate their camscore system a secret, so who's to say what it's going to be on any given day that may or may not effect your score. I mean, I do understand the reasons for camscores... If you're on cam and not making any money, then they don't want you sucking up all that bandwidth, because that costs them money. But what I don't like is that they refuse to have any transparency in how the score are calculated. I mean it would only help if the models knew exactly what MFC wants out of them to be successful working on their site. All the secretiveness makes them look awfully suspicious to me.

 

[AllisonWilder]

Oh and I'm sure that MFC most likely changes the smaller details in the formula (or algorithms) they use to determine camscores from time to time as well. For example, I've notice that doing certain things like uploading pics to a private gallery would always raise my score a couple of points.

I used to notice a fluctuation in my score when I'd upload a bunch of pictures, work on my profile, etc., but with a few months of monitoring, I realized that it was just the normal daily fluctuation and not my uploading that was doing it. If it was being raised by me messing with my profile, there'd be a hell of a lot more girls tinkering with their profiles and spending a lot less time online.

But what I don't like is that they refuse to have any transparency in how the score are calculated. I mean it would only help if the models knew exactly what MFC wants out of them to be successful working on their site. All the secretiveness makes them look awfully suspicious to me.

Camscore is pretty transparent though. Tokens per hour over a 60-day period.

 

[curvyredhead]

Oh and I'm sure that MFC most likely changes the smaller details in the formula (or algorithms) they use to determine camscores from time to time as well. For example, I've notice that doing certain things like uploading pics to a private gallery would always raise my score a couple of points. Ya know, just little things like that. They keep the exact formula for how they calculate their camscore system a secret, so who's to say what it's going to be on any given day that may or may not effect your score. I mean, I do understand the reasons for camscores... If you're on cam and not making any money, then they don't want you sucking up all that bandwidth, because that costs them money. But what I don't like is that they refuse to have any transparency in how the score are calculated. I mean it would only help if the models knew exactly what MFC wants out of them to be successful working on their site. All the secretiveness makes them look awfully suspicious to me.

I really highly doubt that uploading pictures plays any part in camscore.

I think the formula is pretty much down to a science in fact.

The only varible I see--is how every girl is doing in relationship to each other.

I don't think it's much of a mystery anymore.

 

[AmberCutie]

Oh and I'm sure that MFC most likely changes the smaller details in the formula (or algorithms) they use to determine camscores from time to time as well. For example, I've notice that doing certain things like uploading pics to a private gallery would always raise my score a couple of points. Ya know, just little things like that. They keep the exact formula for how they calculate their camscore system a secret, so who's to say what it's going to be on any given day that may or may not effect your score. I mean, I do understand the reasons for camscores... If you're on cam and not making any money, then they don't want you sucking up all that bandwidth, because that costs them money. But what I don't like is that they refuse to have any transparency in how the score are calculated. I mean it would only help if the models knew exactly what MFC wants out of them to be successful working on their site. All the secretiveness makes them look awfully suspicious to me.

I really highly doubt that uploading pictures plays any part in camscore.

I think the formula is pretty much down to a science in fact.

The only varible I see--is how every girl is doing in relationship to each other.

I don't think it's much of a mystery anymore.

The ONLY thing that effects your camscore is tokens. Nothing to do with anything you do with your profile. What you may be seeing is that your profile page updates the camscore that's displayed if/when you update it or log in, but that isn't changing your actual camscore.

 

[PlayboyMegan]

So I think we all can agree on something, stay away from the old model software!!!!

 

[AmberCutie]

So I think we all can agree on something, stay away from the old model software!!!!

:thumbleft: :handgestures-salute: :thumbleft:

 

[LadyLuna]

Camscore is one of those things that I am pretty damn comfortable with the grasp I have on it, so when people would rather make their own rash hypotheses about it instead of look at all the information that I've compiled over the years, it sorta feels like "why do I even try?"

For every person who doubts what you say publicly, there are at least 10 who silently cheer you on as you shoot down the nay-sayers.

We are silent, but we are here, and we do appreciate the effort you've put in to understanding and helping us understand camscore.

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

Camscore is one of those things that I am pretty damn comfortable with the grasp I have on it, so when people would rather make their own rash hypotheses about it instead of look at all the information that I've compiled over the years, it sorta feels like "why do I even try?"

For every person who doubts what you say publicly, there are at least 10 who silently cheer you on as you shoot down the nay-sayers.

We are silent, but we are here, and we do appreciate the effort you've put in to understanding and helping us understand camscore.

+1

When I see model or members spread BS (e.g. 1 token tips hurt cam scores) I always direct them here or some case to a thread on the forum and try and present the information I've read here.

I imagine there is lots of threads in the models threads on camscore. But I think it would be worthwhile to put a stickied post summarizing what you know about camscore in the Ask-A_model section. It wouldn't eliminate all the questions but at least we could refer them to one spot.

 

[Mirah]

Camscore is one of those things that I am pretty damn comfortable with the grasp I have on it, so when people would rather make their own rash hypotheses about it instead of look at all the information that I've compiled over the years, it sorta feels like "why do I even try?"

For every person who doubts what you say publicly, there are at least 10 who silently cheer you on as you shoot down the nay-sayers.

We are silent, but we are here, and we do appreciate the effort you've put in to understanding and helping us understand camscore.

Yes for sure. I know I am so grateful to Amber for putting in the effort in the camscore formulation and doing her best to educate everybody.
Ever since I have been calculating my camscore, its been right on so I have no doubt in what Amber has posted because I'll come out with my camscore almost exactly.

Thank you Amber!!!!

 

[AllisonWilder]

+1

When I see model or members spread BS (e.g. 1 token tips hurt cam scores) I always direct them here or some case to a thread on the forum and try and present the information I've read here.

I imagine there is lots of threads in the models threads on camscore. But I think it would be worthwhile to put a stickied post summarizing what you know about camscore in the Ask-A_model section. It wouldn't eliminate all the questions but at least we could refer them to one spot.

There used to be one camscore thread out here in the public section, but it was a lot of posts where Amber (and others) explained the camscore and a lot of posts where people continued to speculate and not believe it.