Stormy Daniels on 60 Minutes

[Gen]

Oh, I dunno. Perhaps the bold sentences make one think she's saying it specifically to me.




Yep, sure seems like it's directed at me with those sentences. Especially when it was my post she quoted...

She said you’re not alone in finding it acceptable, and then that a lot of citizens are laughing about it. You and I interpret it differently, but Jicky agreed with my interpretation of it, so evidently it’s not about you or a personal slight.

 

[Deleted member 37064]

Right, I didn't mean you specifically. Most Americans are making it about the blonde and laughing it off. The part that was specific to you that I find confusing is looking at it from a cheating angle instead of an illegal activity/poor leadership ability angle since we seem to agree about the Clinton issue. I think most people here can see his cheating as personal to his marriage/not for us to speak on since we're a group that seems understanding of sexuality. So, surprising to see you go back to that point again I guess?

I've said multiple times that I don't care about the sexual relatioship. We don't know if it's cheating, since the Trumps might have an open marriage agreement. I've always stated that it's about the potential misuse of power, and why I inquired on how you felt about Clinton since I equate Trump's situation similar to Clinton's. The only difference is that Trump was not in a public office during these relationships. What a person does with their own money, is their business. If campaign funds were used, then that's illegal and something needs to be done.

 

[Deleted member 37064]

She said you’re not alone in finding it acceptable, and then that a lot of citizens are laughing about it. You and I interpret it differently, but Jicky agreed with my interpretation of it, so evidently it’s not about you or a personal slight.

IMO, it's the wording and where the punctuation was placed that made me question why she was directing it at me since I've never said nor implied that I'm laughing this off.

The crux of the matter is that there's too many things which we don't know about, and I'd rather see the focus shifted from the relatioship to the actions taken regarding potential misappropriate use of campaign funds &/or illegal use/abuse of power.

 

[JickyJuly]

He was in office when she was threatened. He was in office when he lied about it which, given his political power and her far lesser social position, is slander. The payoff is probably illegal on one side or both no matter how or when it happened. If she requested payment to keep quiet, she's broken a law. She's broken a law as a private citizen. He's paid these women for sex. While many of us here don't find that morally wrong, it is illegal. It's illegal and his own platform is for keeping it that way. Using money to cover up illegal activities before taking office or after matters the same. He's broken the law while holding the highest seat in American politics. It's not his business. If we have a President who has the ability to act illegally, that is our business.

Editing to add: I really wasn't singling you out as a laughing it off person. If that was the case, I wouldn't keep talking to you about it even in my bored, too pregnant to move state. Sadly, most of the people I've seen laughing it off are IRL folks for me. People who claim to be evangelical or liberal, "feminist", educated etc but who I'm seeing very clearly do not extend their views to sex workers or blondes with big tits even. Much more heartache inducing than folks here. Not sure about my punctuation use. I'm reasonably educated and thoughtful but nothing fancy.

 

[Deleted member 37064]

If we have a President who has the ability to act illegally, that is our business.

Every President has the ability to act illegally. I'm sure it wouldn't be much of a stretch to say that nearly all have done so in one form or another during their Presidency.

Illegal actions are our business, no disagreement there. The problem I have is that over the past few Presidencies, it seems that both parties (and their supporters) are guilty of witch hunts because of the extreme polarization of the politics in the US. This doesn't mean I'm saying he's innocent or that we should disregard any of it. But, rather than trial by public opinion, let the truth come out and be tried by the courts for any illegal actions.

The sad part, is that I don't see much happening from this even if it's proven that he's done illegal. The current political system is in such shambles that he'll probably serve the rest of his four year term and he may be charged. But, won't be removed from office. Just like Clinton. Term limits need to be set, "donations" and "contributions" to sitting legislatures and people in office need to go away, as do a whole slew of laws need to be changed.

The problem is, how do you get those who write the laws follow their own laws? Replace them? It's been shown that those who replace them won't stick to their own word and are just as, if not more so, corrupt than those they replace.

 

[justjoinedtopost]

CNN, WSJ, Washington Post, NY Times etc. have all had zillion legal experts weigh in, but I guess you don't read or watch them.

All singing the same tune you say?

 

[dilligaf0]

What are we getting upset about?
He lied? Of course he lied. He's now a politician. They're slightly more dishonest than used car dealers.
She was threatened? Of course she was. Trump's lawyer is famous for threatening people, it's his history.
She revealed Trump was unfaithful? After the "Access" Hollywood tape and his appearances on Howard Stern's show, you're surprised?
The only thing I'm really bothered by is the possible campaign finance law violations that Congress won't look at because they're too busy dealing with their own sexual harassment cover-ups to deal with this.

 

[DFT]

I'm bummed I didn't think to register StormyDaniels2020.com.

And yes, I'd vote for her. Why not? Already shown more character than the last two to run.