Seeking Model Advice for SMall Stream Project

[ericshotbox]

Hello cammers. I am building a very small streaming chat site project and I would like your help in understanding what would make it a goto site for models over other camming sites if possible. What I really need to know is what are your concerns as models as far as safety, copywrites if any, and legal issues. I know models are concerned with scammers recording shows. I think watermarking is used to fight this scam but are there any other suggestions that you would like to see as a model? I was thinking maybe of overlaying the lettering or words of the chat off to the side on the camming screen. This way if it is being recorded they will have to recored the chats also and this could ruin their scam plans.

I am running this stream project alone. I run the streaming server and website. I also manage the traffic to the site. I am not looking to make this a huge project. The business model of this project could be described as "quick and dirty". The basic idea is:
1. Traffic is pushed to the models stream page.
2. Model monitizes with tips, shows, selling pictures or items by BitCoin directly to models account.
3. Model pays me for web services.

Some pros about this project:
1. Bitcoin payments are transferred from client to model instantly. No waitng for payment. ( I am adding Paxum/PayPal to this but its more expensive )
2. Adult traffic is funneled to the models page at a high rate. (I could only do this with one or 2 models at a time.)
3. The site is new and small. It is low on scammers radar.
4. It offers almost unlimited flexibility to make stream model money.
5. The stream has 2 way streaming ability with clients. This offers more creative ways to intice clients.
6. The model can stream from any device with a browser. No OBS needed.

Some cons about this project:
1. The models will have to have a bitcoin account and will have to convert their bitcoins into the currency of their country.
2. The model has to cordinate with me to start traffic to their stream room.

I have helped a few chaturbate models by pushing traffic to their rooms using the promotion codes while they are performing. I do ask before pushing, some say yes some say no. I do understand their prefference to avoiding grays and more assholes to kickout, but I think there benefits also. When traffic is pushed, the number of users in the room start to rise and follower notices start to trail on the screen. This works better for some models than others and I cannot say that it is entirely because of looks and performance. I do think there is some computerized systematic bias happening.


I am doing my homework and researh on copywrites, legalities and model safety but I would to know if you the models had any input. I would love ot here your feedback, both positive and negative. Thanks.

 

[AudriTwo]

bitcoin only? nah mate. and paypal is strictly no adult in their tos. that includes to payment. (paypal blocked pornhub for doing so) i definitly recommend start reading platforms you would like to use tos before pitching ideas. tbh it doesnt come off like you really have done much research and just want us to do the work for you with this post. i reads "i have no experience other than watching cams and white knight marketing" sorry if that was harsh sounding.

i get you have an idea, but why not sign up for an affiliate first? you basically got the jush of it. imo you are hitting the ground running. and new camsites are notorious for closing shop and not paying out their models. that is huge con.

affiliate marketing will help give you the experience you need if you want to learn more about the backbones of the industry without whipping your wang out on cam.

 

[LaceyRoyce]

While being recorded sucks, its far from the highest priority of most established models. We all know this happens. Offering DMCA services is one really tangible way you can be helpful.

If I was to go to a new site the single deciding factor is: Paying traffic OR if there's no paying traffic yet, guaranteed compensation for my time and effort. I also need to feel confident that the company I'm working for is legit, won't run with my pay or fold. Small/New sites do not inspire this confidence so absolute transparency is required for that.

Most of your pros are not unique to your site. In order to entice models you'll need to figure out your *unique* proposition. What you uniquely offer that other sites dont. Especially if you want to compete against bigger established sites.

Paypal is absolutely a NO GO. sex work 101.

 

[ericshotbox]

bitcoin only? nah mate. and paypal is strictly no adult in their tos. that includes to payment. (paypal blocked pornhub for doing so) i definitly recommend start reading platforms you would like to use tos before pitching ideas. tbh it doesnt come off like you really have done much research and just want us to do the work for you with this post. i reads "i have no experience other than watching cams and white knight marketing" sorry if that was harsh sounding.

i get you have an idea, but why not sign up for an affiliate first? you basically got the jush of it. imo you are hitting the ground running. and new camsites are notorious for closing shop and not paying out their models. that is huge con.

affiliate marketing will help give you the experience you need if you want to learn more about the backbones of the industry without whipping your wang out on cam.

Thanks for your input.

While being recorded sucks, its far from the highest priority of most established models. We all know this happens. Offering DMCA services is one really tangible way you can be helpful.

If I was to go to a new site the single deciding factor is: Paying traffic OR if there's no paying traffic yet, guaranteed compensation for my time and effort. I also need to feel confident that the company I'm working for is legit, won't run with my pay or fold. Small/New sites do not inspire this confidence so absolute transparency is required for that.

Most of your pros are not unique to your site. In order to entice models you'll need to figure out your *unique* proposition. What you uniquely offer that other sites dont. Especially if you want to compete against bigger established sites.

Paypal is absolutely a NO GO. sex work 101.

Thank you for replying. I'll look more into offering DCMA services. One idea I had to get clients to pay is to allow the stream to show for only 60 seconds. Then they can join for a certain amount if they want to continue . From there they can buy tokens to pay for one one shows or sell pictures vides or whatever. I hear you on the guaranteed compensation. I will have to add that in the mix. as for running off with money I wouldn't have the chance. in fact it is the model that could not pay me. Part of the business model of this project is that the money comes straight from the client to the model. I would be the one hoping not to get screwed. I would think that this alone would make models feel confident about transparency. Please tell me if I am wrong. This is also the unique proposition the site would offer. Thank yo for your feedback I am very new to the business side of it and there are now real guides.

 

[ericshotbox]

bitcoin only? nah mate. and paypal is strictly no adult in their tos. that includes to payment. (paypal blocked pornhub for doing so) i definitly recommend start reading platforms you would like to use tos before pitching ideas. tbh it doesnt come off like you really have done much research and just want us to do the work for you with this post. i reads "i have no experience other than watching cams and white knight marketing" sorry if that was harsh sounding.

i get you have an idea, but why not sign up for an affiliate first? you basically got the jush of it. imo you are hitting the ground running. and new camsites are notorious for closing shop and not paying out their models. that is huge con.

affiliate marketing will help give you the experience you need if you want to learn more about the backbones of the industry without whipping your wang out on cam.

Im looking into bitcoin because I read how porn friendly it its and how it is slowly making its way deeper into the industry. And I read the Paxum is a service that is used with paypal to accept payments from porn industry but it is expensive. With bitcoins I am curious to know if people tip more for the fact that it may feel less like they real money, its anonymous and its easy to use. I know nothing about bit coins myself. I do have alot more researching to do. And your right most of my research is watching cams. I see the potential of what can be done with funneling traffic to page with your own control. it wasn't harsh but I can take it.

I have done and do affiliate marketing. Some works some don't. I would also have affiliate links on the stream page. And I have never whipped my wang out on cam....yet.

 

[AudriTwo]

Im looking into bitcoin because I read how porn friendly it its and how it is slowly making its way deeper into the industry. And I read the Paxum is a service that is used with paypal to accept payments from porn industry but it is expensive. With bitcoins I am curious to know if people tip more for the fact that it may feel less like they real money, its anonymous and its easy to use. I know nothing about bit coins myself. I do have alot more researching to do. And your right most of my research is watching cams. I see the potential of what can be done with funneling traffic to page with your own control. it wasn't harsh but I can take it.

where did you read this... because im interested WHO said this and their experience. bitcoin is such a niche payment method. if anything its hard to get members to move to a different site, let alone figure out how to convert to an extremely volatile currency they are not really familiar with.

I have done and do affiliate marketing. Some works some don't. I would also have affiliate links on the stream page. And I have never whipped my wang out on cam....yet.

so you already know some camsites work and some dont. you are building a field of dreams not knowing if anyone will come. i think you got ideas, and that is great! but you still need to do a lot of research before you come to us with any concepts or something with substance. also we arent free market research. please be respectful. there have been lots of people in the past pitching their new camsite or ideas. i recommend searching for them. you might learn something in them. (not trying to be condescending but the search feature tool here works great. there are gold in them mines. dig bb)

thanks for not taking my comments hard. thats a good sign you are open to criticism which is fundemental in this business.

 

[melanieoncam]

Im looking into bitcoin because I read how porn friendly it its and how it is slowly making its way deeper into the industry. And I read the Paxum is a service that is used with paypal to accept payments from porn industry but it is expensive. With bitcoins I am curious to know if people tip more for the fact that it may feel less like they real money, its anonymous and its easy to use. I know nothing about bit coins myself. I do have alot more researching to do. And your right most of my research is watching cams. I see the potential of what can be done with funneling traffic to page with your own control. it wasn't harsh but I can take it.

I have done and do affiliate marketing. Some works some don't. I would also have affiliate links on the stream page. And I have never whipped my wang out on cam....yet.

Bitcoin is only porn friendly in theory.
It accounts for only 1 to 2% of payments to adult sites and services. You can't expect us to take a 98% pay cut.

When OnlyFans said they were cutting out adult content I had so many on Twitter saying "why not take Bitcoin"? As a little experiment I offered a 50% discount if paid with Bitcoin to all my cam bookings and clips last year for a full week. I got sales, but every single sale was with no discount using conventional payment methods at full price. I wish it would work. Getting paid instantly would rock, but most porn customers won't touch it as a payment method.

Maybe in the future it might improve but it would need to take a huge leap to make it viable.

 

[ericshotbox]

where did you read this... because im interested WHO said this and their experience. bitcoin is such a niche payment method. if anything its hard to get members to move to a different site, let alone figure out how to convert to an extremely volatile currency they are not really familiar with.


so you already know some camsites work and some dont. you are building a field of dreams not knowing if anyone will come. i think you got ideas, and that is great! but you still need to do a lot of research before you come to us with any concepts or something with substance. also we aren't free market research. please be respectful. there have been lots of people in the past pitching their new camsite or ideas. i recommend searching for them. you might learn something in them. (not trying to be condescending but the search feature tool here works great. there are gold in them mines. dig bb)

thanks for not taking my comments hard. thats a good sign you are open to criticism which is fundemental in this business.

I don't remember where I read it but I am sure that if you or anyone reading this can search "bitcoin and porn industry" or anything related.. Also filter the search for post done within the year just so you won't be reading old information.. I did mention that one of the cons of this project is for the model having to have her own bitcoin account and convert the coins into the currency of their country. Yes I am building on a field of dreams that nobody has proven false yet. I came to this sub because it states "ask a model". I truly didn't mean any disrespect by asking questions. I wanted to know your opinions as models. This project is also an experiment for me. I realize I should have mentioned that. Its not an original idea, there are articles around the same idea. Thanks again for your feedback.

 

[ericshotbox]

Bitcoin is only porn friendly in theory.
It accounts for only 1 to 2% of payments to adult sites and services. You can't expect us to take a 98% pay cut.

When OnlyFans said they were cutting out adult content I had so many on Twitter saying "why not take Bitcoin"? As a little experiment I offered a 50% discount if paid with Bitcoin to all my cam bookings and clips last year for a full week. I got sales, but every single sale was with no discount using conventional payment methods at full price. I wish it would work. Getting paid instantly would rock, but most porn customers won't touch it as a payment method.

Maybe in the future it might improve but it would need to take a huge leap to make it viable.

Thanks. 2% is low I thought it would be a little higher. I guess its not popular enough yet but it is growing. If Onlyfans decided to only deal in bitcoins then yes you could expect a 98% pay cut. But if they for some reason decided to focus most of their traffic to your page only, this could make a difference. Anyone can funnel adult traffic to web page. I would like to say its magic but its not. Its just takes some money and a little bit of nerd juice. And I am not claiming the I can produce comparable traffic to Onlyfans. I should have mention that this project is also and experiment. I should also mention that there are Bitcoin sites making there money right now. One site looks just like Chaterbate but with bitcoins. So with that I was hoping there would be some opportunity.

 

[Lintilla]

Correct me if I'm wrong (in which case this whole post may be irrelevant), but sounds like you're planning to have members send tips to models directly from their own Bitcoin wallet address? It would make much more sense for a member to create an account with you, load it up with crypto, and get credited in some sort of site token to pay the models once their payment is confirmed. You did mention tokens in there at least once. Having to make an account is a downside, but there are reasons that's the sort of system other sites have gone with. For instance:

• Bitcoin and most other cryptocurrencies have high transaction fees which would make small tips ridiculous to the point that sometimes the fee could be higher than the tip! You could solve that to some extent by using other currencies with lower fees, but that removes the advantage of choosing a currency that most people are familiar with and might already have.
  
  
• Crypto transactions are usually anything but instant. I've had times when I sent accidentally sent a transaction on the Ethereum network without enough gas, and they can take hours to complete if they actually compete at all. At the best of times, most transactions on most networks are going to take at least a few minutes to confirm, so if those tips are going directly to the model, wallet to wallet, they're going to be waiting five minutes before they can perform their flash etc.
  
  
• While Bitcoin transactions can be somewhat anonymous, they are anything but private. If everything is done wallet to wallet, it would be easy to check out the transaction histories of the models and members alike. So among other privacy concerns, it will be public knowledge how much the model earns, how much a member has spent, etc. without each of them cycling frequently through multiple wallet addresses (and even then, they could be tied together as long as they're associated with anything like a screen name).

 

[melanieoncam]

Thanks. 2% is low I thought it would be a little higher. I guess its not popular enough yet but it is growing. If Onlyfans decided to only deal in bitcoins then yes you could expect a 98% pay cut. But if they for some reason decided to focus most of their traffic to your page only, this could make a difference. Anyone can funnel adult traffic to web page. I would like to say its magic but its not. Its just takes some money and a little bit of nerd juice. And I am not claiming the I can produce comparable traffic to Onlyfans. I should have mention that this project is also and experiment. I should also mention that there are Bitcoin sites making there money right now. One site looks just like Chaterbate but with bitcoins. So with that I was hoping there would be some opportunity.

I'm curious what site you are referring to. Mind sharing the link?


I'm not against a site using Bitcoin but limiting payments to that method only is going to drastically limit any earning for now.
I just worked with a site that is backed by one of the biggest and oldest porn companies, adultempire. Their site is fantasy.club. They paid us to be online 40 hours during December. I had high hopes for the site at first. They did have some small traffic but nearly all the viewers either didn't understand or didn't want to bother with crypto. Of those who did have crypto already none of them would really spend.

Even with the guaranteed pay for December there were barely any cam hosts there and now that has ended they usually only have one or two online, if that. If there were money coming in they would soon look like other sites with thousands online. It's just not working, even with AdultEmpire throwing money at it (and they have the tech knowledge and very deep pockets to back it).
edited to add - yeah I took a peek and there is not one single host live there, on a Saturday.

 

[LaceyRoyce]

Thanks for your input.

Thank you for replying. I'll look more into offering DCMA services. One idea I had to get clients to pay is to allow the stream to show for only 60 seconds. Then they can join for a certain amount if they want to continue . From there they can buy tokens to pay for one one shows or sell pictures vides or whatever. I hear you on the guaranteed compensation. I will have to add that in the mix. as for running off with money I wouldn't have the chance. in fact it is the model that could not pay me. Part of the business model of this project is that the money comes straight from the client to the model. I would be the one hoping not to get screwed. I would think that this alone would make models feel confident about transparency. Please tell me if I am wrong. This is also the unique proposition the site would offer. Thank yo for your feedback I am very new to the business side of it and there are now real guides.

60 seconds is not enough if you're going with a freemium model. It takes customers on average 7 encounters with a product or brand before they make a decision. You'll be left with empty rooms or forcing models to bring their own traffic.

Straight to the model.. meaning what exactly??
You'll still be trusted with my ID and my paperwork...

Regarding bitcoin... I can't get clients to buy it either. It's absolutely not there yet for a site to operate solely on crypto.

 

[ericshotbox]

I'm curious what site you are referring to. Mind sharing the link?


I'm not against a site using Bitcoin but limiting payments to that method only is going to drastically limit any earning for now.
I just worked with a site that is backed by one of the biggest and oldest porn companies, adultempire. Their site is fantasy.club. They paid us to be online 40 hours during December. I had high hopes for the site at first. They did have some small traffic but nearly all the viewers either didn't understand or didn't want to bother with crypto. Of those who did have crypto already none of them would really spend.

Even with the guaranteed pay for December there were barely any cam hosts there and now that has ended they usually only have one or two online, if that. If there were money coming in they would soon look like other sites with thousands online. It's just not working, even with AdultEmpire throwing money at it (and they have the tech knowledge and very deep pockets to back it).
edited to add - yeah I took a peek and there is not one single host live there, on a Saturday.

 

[ericshotbox]

Sorry, I can't fing it but I will send it when i see it again. I have bumped into that site before a few years ago. You probably knew this already but in my search noticed that chaturbate members can pay with crypto as an option. It does sound like there is just not enough bitcoin clients to support the industry well. I want to keep the bitcoin option but I see I will have to ad other methods until crypto is large enough.

 

[ericshotbox]

60 seconds is not enough if you're going with a freemium model. It takes customers on average 7 encounters with a product or brand before they make a decision. You'll be left with empty rooms or forcing models to bring their own traffic.

Straight to the model.. meaning what exactly??
You'll still be trusted with my ID and my paperwork...

Regarding bitcoin... I can't get clients to buy it either. It's absolutely not there yet for a site to operate solely on crypto.

Thank you. This is great input. I thought 60 sec might be to short of time also. Maybe I'll add some lettering over the stream to be annoying enough to join or leave.
I want to approach this as web develppement service to models if this is possible. In order for that to happen I cannot collect the money to give to the model. The model will have to collect the money to give to me. As a service I should not need to collect ID and paperwork. This is a hole of opportunity I see for a very small private cam site.

 

[LaceyRoyce]

Thank you. This is great input. I thought 60 sec might be to short of time also. Maybe I'll add some lettering over the stream to be annoying enough to join or leave.
I want to approach this as web develppement service to models if this is possible. In order for that to happen I cannot collect the money to give to the model. The model will have to collect the money to give to me. As a service I should not need to collect ID and paperwork. This is a hole of opportunity I see for a very small private cam

What country will your business be operating out of? You'll absolutely 100% need paperwork. Aside from the *host* of legal shit you're opening yourself up to if you do not ... simply ethically how will you ensure that minors are not broadcasting on your platform???


.. I am not saying this to be mean or piss all over someone with an idea that wants to contribute something to the industry. But you are not ready for this. In any way shape or form. You could end up in some SERIOUSLY hot water if you're not careful. You need to be far more familiar with industry norms, legal obligations etc

also a cursory glance at US tax law means models who paid you in bitcoin would be required to report these payments to the IRS in some way. Meaning you'd need their info and they'd need yours..

 

[ericshotbox]

I agree that there is much more to look over. Yes, I need ID to have proof of no underage models.
But then again when paying for streaming server from a place like Dacast, they or using the youtube service to stream, they do have restriction policy of what can be streamed but they don't ask for ID. I think Twitch ask for ID to be a Twitch affiliate . I assume it is possible to operate this way under a service agreement not employment agreement. Some social medias requires photo ID but I don't believe it is required by law. I would like to run the project under the same laws they run. But sense this is the business of porn I'm sure its a different world of laws.

Keep in mind I did say that I am working on this project. I never claimed that the site was ready or that I was looking for models. I came here to learn and share, as this is what forums are known for. I figured that if this could work it would be desirable to models to get their pay instantly and be the ones to hold the money to pay out. But admit I am curious to test how the traffic even reacts to the site in the first place. Its not as pretty as the others.

I going to find where the legal lines are drawn between service and employment when dealing with online cam sites. Starting in my state. I will post it in this sub for reference. Thanks for you input.

 

[LaceyRoyce]

I agree that there is much more to look over. Yes, I need ID to have proof of no underage models.
But then again when paying for streaming server from a place like Dacast, they or using the youtube service to stream, they do have restriction policy of what can be streamed but they don't ask for ID. I think Twitch ask for ID to be a Twitch affiliate . I assume it is possible to operate this way under a service agreement not employment agreement. Some social medias requires photo ID but I don't believe it is required by law. I would like to run the project under the same laws they run. But sense this is the business of porn I'm sure its a different world of laws.

Keep in mind I did say that I am working on this project. I never claimed that the site was ready or that I was looking for models. I came here to learn and share, as this is what forums are known for. I figured that if this could work it would be desirable to models to get their pay instantly and be the ones to hold the money to pay out. But admit I am curious to test how the traffic even reacts to the site in the first place. Its not as pretty as the others.

I going to find where the legal lines are drawn between service and employment when dealing with online cam sites. Starting in my state. I will post it in this sub for reference. Thanks for you input.

Youtube and Dacast are not adult services, the 2257 laws and FOSTA SESTA mean that adult sites are dealing with a completely different landscape.

I do understand you're working on the idea right now and just looking for feedback and I'm not trying to stop that process. I just think you're.. thinking about 20 steps ahead. Before you start thinking about traffic and DMCA and whether you'll restrict users access to a 60 second window you need to get yourself really familiar with the legal landscape you're working in. I'm really glad to hear you're going to start researching the legal stuff for your state. Don't just look into service and employment laws you'll also need to look into federal adult content laws as well

 

[ericshotbox]

Youtube and Dacast are not adult services, the 2257 laws and FOSTA SESTA mean that adult sites are dealing with a completely different landscape.

I do understand you're working on the idea right now and just looking for feedback and I'm not trying to stop that process. I just think you're.. thinking about 20 steps ahead. Before you start thinking about traffic and DMCA and whether you'll restrict users access to a 60 second window you need to get yourself really familiar with the legal landscape you're working in. I'm really glad to hear you're going to start researching the legal stuff for your state. Don't just look into service and employment laws you'll also need to look into federal adult content laws as well

Thanks. You came again with some good info. the 2257 laws would definitely require me to collect ID to run the stream through my site. The owner of the site would also be the producer of the content. All producers of the content are liable. So I guess I would have to alter my services to cater only to independent models with their own domains. But also this mean that I would have to rebuild the bitcoin bells and whistles site onto each independent models domain. This is not good business for me. If I want to do this I will have to collect ID and paperwork.

Well played ....Miss Lolipop...... well played.

 

[Omne35]

Before you plan on using crypto only you need to consider why a large percentage of people have no intention of using it.
Basically 2 factors I know of, the first is that for a lot of people it sounds too complicated and they aren't into change.

The second, and for me the main reason, is that I have absolutely no interest in holding an asset that volitile. For example last November it was $67k, currently it's $38k. Changes of 5% to 10% in a day aren't uncommon. If I buy bitcoins for a cam site they may drop 10% or more unless I use them immediately. I'll stick with $ for now since the main sites have the tokens pegged to a specific value.

 

[ericshotbox]

Before you plan on using crypto only you need to consider why a large percentage of people have no intention of using it.
Basically 2 factors I know of, the first is that for a lot of people it sounds too complicated and they aren't into change.

The second, and for me the main reason, is that I have absolutely no interest in holding an asset that volitile. For example last November it was $67k, currently it's $38k. Changes of 5% to 10% in a day aren't uncommon. If I buy bitcoins for a cam site they may drop 10% or more unless I use them immediately. I'll stick with $ for now since the main sites have the tokens pegged to a specific value.

Years ago I thought crypto would not make it this far. Now I'm seeng more and more commercials and crypto machines popping up. I figured maybe I was wrong. When I read the recent articles on crypto and porn it seems all good.

The goal for this project was to make it very worth it for a model to want to learn crypto. If the site and traffic could get the model well over more that what she would usually make, while instantly having the money or bitcoins in her personal bitcoin account, I would think she would not pass it up cause of a few extra steps. At least I don't think all of them would. And yes crypto is volitile. I thought that alone would have stopped it from growing, But it hasn't.

The real issue for me is that 2257 law. I was trying to avoild having the legal requirement of collecting model info and I thought that I could do this by being paid from the model for web services rather than me paying the model. But that 2257 law is vicious. The producer (website owner) must collect model info. That law also declares producers in levels, meaning anything in the path of producing that content. This also means the streaming server that I built and they could probably throw in the company hosting the website files as a producer level.

I will have do this expirament while having the site and everything under her name so that she is the producer I will be just hired help. Or I may just have to do something I was accused of earlier in this sub....whip my wang out on cam.

 

[Life_Happens]

Take your time, be patient, but definitely heed the earlier warnings. Maybe hire a business consultant who is well-versed in the adult industry

 

[THE MOLLIE MARIE]

whip my wang out on cam.

While the market for that is low, it's more likely you'd make money that way than whatever you are trying to cobble together here.

The best way to start making money in sex work is to do the sex work.

 

[ericshotbox]

While the market for that is low, it's more likely you'd make money that way than whatever you are trying to cobble together here.

The best way to start making money in sex work is to do the sex work.

Nah, That was actually a joke. While I do believe you, It would not give me the results I am looking for. I have been web developing for about 10 years now and it all started with a passion to make a porn site and had a few disappointing setbacks. I once worked months on building stream server. that uses something called FLASH to stream on browsers only to find out that that very same month FLASH was phasing out from browsers. So that build was dead. Now I just finished building the second stream server with the new stream technology WEBRTC only to find out that 2257 law would have probably stopped this project from the very beginning if I had known. But then again the streaming laws where not as stricked as now. So again bad timing and lack of info.

But, I am going to continue to cobble. Cause that's what I do. I cobble.

 

[CheeseMoon]

I have been web developing for about 10 years now

that very same month FLASH was phasing out from browsers.

only to find out that 2257 law would have probably stopped this project from the very beginning

Not that it's any of my business, but maybe you would profit from taking a few months off the web development and cobble together a business plan and do some research instead. I doesn't have to be complicated, but stuff like you mention here will definitely happen in the future to the tech, politics and business environment you hope to operate in. The Field of Dreams only works in Hollywood, I'm afraid ...

 

[THE MOLLIE MARIE]

While I do believe you, It would not give me the results I am looking for.

Well,

I once worked months on building stream server. that uses something called FLASH to stream on browsers only to find out that that very same month FLASH was phasing out from browsers. So that build was dead. Now I just finished building the second stream server with the new stream technology WEBRTC only to find out that 2257 law would have probably stopped this project from the very beginning if I had known.

this approach doesn't seem to be working for you. I am not saying this because I think no one should ever try to create something new on their own. I just think it's much less likely that you will come up with something successful on your own. Particularly based on how your examples have been halted by lack of awareness and ignorance to how the industry works. Working on this side of the industry will give you a better idea of where there are needs for innovation, and how you could provide that, while avoiding needless setbacks because you don't know about basic things that are happening.

Most successful new projects (not produced by some previously existing large industry entity) seem to have better insight either directly because they are headed up by performers, or they have taken the time and done their homework getting all the needed information from performers--when we are willing to take OUR time to share with random strangers who want to make money off of our work, so let's add consultation fees to the list if you're really serious. A more direct route would give you the best odds at a profitable outcome. Know what I mean?

If you are able to establish yourself as someone beyond random internet stranger #1097413, then you might get better responses to your inquiries. But it's asking a lot for nothing in return when you just show up to a community you don't participate in like this.

 

[Omne35]

So the model calculates the price in Bitcoin and informs the client. Assuming the client waits a day or two it will have to be recalculated everytime a price is given.
So the model ends up with it in their account. If they're lucky it won't be worth less in a couple of days.

Until the volitility goes down dramatically it's not going to be viable for personal service transactions. Merchants can handle the fluctuations since it's a small part of their business. Playing around with it is fine but as a primary income? Not a great idea.

 

[ericshotbox]

Not that it's any of my business, but maybe you would profit from taking a few months off the web development and cobble together a business plan and do some research instead. I doesn't have to be complicated, but stuff like you mention here will definitely happen in the future to the tech, politics and business environment you hope to operate in. The Field of Dreams only works in Hollywood, I'm afraid ...

That is sound advice. The replies here helped me notice that bitcoin is not quite the move yet and that streaming laws have gotten more serious sense I started.
My Field of Dreams of getting paid by hot women and making them more money is hard to wake up from. But I guess I gotta....

 

[AmberCutie]

The replies here helped me notice that bitcoin is not quite the move yet and that streaming laws have gotten more serious sense I started.

It's so refreshing to see someone come here and actually take in the information and advice from others in the industry.

Good on you.

 

[CheeseMoon]

My Field of Dreams of getting paid by hot women and making them more money is hard to wake up from. But I guess I gotta....

Haha! It's a legitimate goal if you ask me, but you need to have a plan on how to get there. Just rattling off these bullet points. It's the bare minimum If you want to have people pay for whatever you sell.

• What can you bring to the industry that others can't? Enthusiasm? Low corporate BS factor? Better payment options? Better support for Latin American or Asian models?
• What are your disadvantages before and after you have the first model streaming on your platform?
• Are there any upcoming technical, business or political changes in the industry you can take advantage of?
• Identify bumps in the road, both during prep, beta and after launch. Payments have been mentioned numerious times ...

And so on and so on. The tech stuff is fun, but you need to build it on a foundation.