Premium members chasing away other models

[Deleted member 4846]

A few of you may know one member who I am talking about in particular, but I won't mention his names (he has multiple member accounts) or the name of the model he pimps here. I say 'he' because the account I first came across him using was male, but his current account says 'female'.

He abuses random members in PM and has his favourite model ban them from the room for no reason at all, unless they are tipping his favourite model of course. It was amusing watching him crash and burn in the Lounge, pretty much everyone there knew his game.

Today I watched the chat in his favourite model's room, the things he said there were quite disturbing..

ban basics for a bit there no good for goal reaching lol
come on guys chat dont be shy rude to sit there
did i miss anything lol
just scaring models of lol
bored lol
got 2 so far lol
witj the you aint getting tokens speach lol

is <premium_member> here omg he never comes in your room lol

premium_member says: message for you what you are doing to new UK models has been reported to admin, I really hope they take action against you

ow ok bye then i have so many profiles lol

premium_member says: He is going to new UK models and scaring them

not scaring them staing guys arnt paying no more

btw seen as iam getting blocked soon i am <his other premium account>
i have many names
iv had many accounts blocked
but unlike u i can pay for more

another premium says: not sure i would be proud of that

i wonder what time i will loose my account lol
only 7 quid for a new account lol


It feels like he is controlling the model, and any money she makes probably goes in his pocket too (he certainly seems to be very interested in how much she takes in tokens, and has that 'ban anyone who isn't a tipper' syndrome, even though he is only a premium). I have never seen the model ask for tokens or be anything but polite, but he just ruins her room and apparently disturbs other models from their camming too.

I don't know about you, but I think this kind of behaviour is unsporting, undesirable, and MFC should totally ban this person from ever holding a premium account on MFC again. I used the Contact form to tell MFC of this person's antics, along with some of the abusive PMs he sent me, but I don't know if they will bother.

Just wanted to see what others thought about this, and if models have had this idiot in their chat abusing premiums and such (he will more than likely do it in PM, so the model may not be aware).

 

[Shaun__]

I fail to see how any of that is really your concern. You should just set your PMs to friends and tip so he can not bother you.

 

[mynameisbob84]

I'd be very surprised if the model is giving him her earnings. He sounds like a dick, and ultimately he's only going to hurt this model's income, so if she's smart, she'll ban him. I wouldn't worry about it either way though.

And I thought you had to buy 200 tokens to start an account with (£13). Where is he getting this £7 account from?

 

[JoleneBrody]

Unless the missing details are fucking CRAZY, this seriously isn't that bad. This dude could easily be 2,000 different identical bloobs typing AS WE SPEAK! :shock: <--- I know, crazy right? Place both hands on head to avoid explosion.

I really think you're overreacting and taking this too personally. If he ruins a models room, that's on her. She either likes him or is too sissy to stand up for herself. Again, not your problem.
Not your job to make sure he doesn't pick on members who don't tip. And unless he's posting girls real names in chat I'm not really sure how he's "scaring them away." Maybe just annoying them until they log off because no one else was chatting anyway. Yeah, that's the way I see it going down.

 

[Deleted member 4846]

Nothing much surprises me on MFC any more, but some of it annoys me. People like this annoy me just by their attitude, and the fact that others tolerate idiots like this annoys me too. I suppose that is the curse of the internet - it gives the idiots a platform on which to spread their idiocy.

I know, I know, I have the choice to switch channels and all of that, but it's always there at the back of my mind... like an annoying flea.

 

[Shaun__]

Nothing much surprises me on MFC any more, but some of it annoys me. People like this annoy me just by their attitude, and the fact that others tolerate idiots like this annoys me too. I suppose that is the curse of the internet - it gives the idiots a platform on which to spread their idiocy.

I know, I know, I have the choice to switch channels and all of that, but it's always there at the back of my mind... like an annoying flea.

I do not consider the banning of freeloaders to be an issue if that is what the model wants to do, so the only bad thing he seems to be doing is bothering other models by telling them that the members have stopped tipping. Did you see him do this and tip the models to let them know this was a lie, or did you sit there freeloading on them as they were chased off?

I do not understand why you care if he is asking people to talk and tip in his favorite model's room. If the model has a problem with it, then she will take care of it. Like I said before set your PMs to friends only, and tip.

 

[Deleted member 4846]

But that is my point - it's not the model that does anything, it's all him. He PMs premiums and hurls abuse at them, tells them they are banned, and shortly after that the model bans them (the model just sits there nice as pie, doesn't say a word, no 'please tip or I will ban you', nothing). The model seems to do what ever he tells her to, he is deciding what happens, who is 'acceptable' in her room.

Anyway, I checked his profile (which was there earlier today) and it is now gone. Looks like either he is playing games even with himself or that MFC have actually banned his account. He is not in the model's room at the moment either.

The thing here is that a premium is controlling a model and generally causing an upset around the site. Are you a model? Would you do what a premium tells you to do without question? Doesn't seem right to me. If I was a model and I heard of someone like that, I would have him on perma-ban and ignore.

On the subject of tipping, I refuse to tip a model who tolerates an idiot like that in their room, I told the model this - no tips from me while he remains there, free to abuse other premiums and ordering her about. She did nothing about him, so she gets nothing from me. I read another thread here about a guy who didn't have any tokens and was banned by a model because of it, 5 minutes later he purchased 900 tokens and then that same model was asking him for a tip... you can guess his response, and I think only a fool would then tip a model who banned them for such frivolous reasons. Same thing applies here - I was banned for no good reason, so why should I then tip that model?

 

[Jupiter551]

Storm in a teacup, if the model puts up with the guy you can like it or leave basically.

 

[Shaun__]

But that is my point - it's not the model that does anything, it's all him. He PMs premiums and hurls abuse at them, tells them they are banned, and shortly after that the model bans them (the model just sits there nice as pie, doesn't say a word, no 'please tip or I will ban you', nothing). The model seems to do what ever he tells her to, he is deciding what happens, who is 'acceptable' in her room.

Anyway, I checked his profile (which was there earlier today) and it is now gone. Looks like either he is playing games even with himself or that MFC have actually banned his account. He is not in the model's room at the moment either.

The thing here is that a premium is controlling a model and generally causing an upset around the site. Are you a model? Would you do what a premium tells you to do without question? Doesn't seem right to me. If I was a model and I heard of someone like that, I would have him on perma-ban and ignore.

On the subject of tipping, I refuse to tip a model who tolerates an idiot like that in their room, I told the model this - no tips from me while he remains there, free to abuse other premiums and ordering her about. She did nothing about him, so she gets nothing from me. I read another thread here about a guy who didn't have any tokens and was banned by a model because of it, 5 minutes later he purchased 900 tokens and then that same model was asking him for a tip... you can guess his response, and I think only a fool would then tip a model who banned them for such frivolous reasons. Same thing applies here - I was banned for no good reason, so why should I then tip that model?

So you are trying to control the model, and force to do things you want her to do before you will tip her? You sound like the run of the mill freeloader to me. You people are always making excuses for your actions. I would never ask a model to ban you, but I would not miss you if she did.

 

[Deleted member 4846]

But that is my point - it's not the model that does anything, it's all him. He PMs premiums and hurls abuse at them, tells them they are banned, and shortly after that the model bans them (the model just sits there nice as pie, doesn't say a word, no 'please tip or I will ban you', nothing). The model seems to do what ever he tells her to, he is deciding what happens, who is 'acceptable' in her room.

Anyway, I checked his profile (which was there earlier today) and it is now gone. Looks like either he is playing games even with himself or that MFC have actually banned his account. He is not in the model's room at the moment either.

The thing here is that a premium is controlling a model and generally causing an upset around the site. Are you a model? Would you do what a premium tells you to do without question? Doesn't seem right to me. If I was a model and I heard of someone like that, I would have him on perma-ban and ignore.

On the subject of tipping, I refuse to tip a model who tolerates an idiot like that in their room, I told the model this - no tips from me while he remains there, free to abuse other premiums and ordering her about. She did nothing about him, so she gets nothing from me. I read another thread here about a guy who didn't have any tokens and was banned by a model because of it, 5 minutes later he purchased 900 tokens and then that same model was asking him for a tip... you can guess his response, and I think only a fool would then tip a model who banned them for such frivolous reasons. Same thing applies here - I was banned for no good reason, so why should I then tip that model?

So you are trying to control the model, and force to do things you want her to do before you will tip her? You sound like the run of the mill freeloader to me. You people are always making excuses for your actions. I would never ask a model to ban you, but I would not miss you if she did.

You twist my words like a twisty turny thing! If there's a nob-end in the room abusing me and others and the model does nothing about them, I do not feel inclined to tip while they are there to see what I have paid for. The onus is on the model to control their own room and encourage people to tip, if they allow idiots to run amok and scare away potential tippers that is their business, but don't expect me to put up with them just because you think everyone who enters a room should tip regardless.

And I don't appreciate being called a freeloader. I do tip and I do buy wishlist items.

 

[Anonymous]

A few of you may know one member who I am talking about in particular, but I won't mention his names (he has multiple member accounts) or the name of the model he pimps here. I say 'he' because the account I first came across him using was male, but his current account says 'female'.

Today I watched the chat in his favourite model's room, the things he said there were quite disturbing..

just scaring models of lol

ow ok bye then i have so many profiles lol

premium_member says: He is going to new UK models and scaring them

btw seen as iam getting blocked soon i am <his other premium account>
i have many names
iv had many accounts blocked
but unlike u i can pay for more

i wonder what time i will loose my account lol
only 7 quid for a new account lol


It feels like he is controlling the model, and any money she makes probably goes in his pocket too (he certainly seems to be very interested in how much she takes in tokens, and has that 'ban anyone who isn't a tipper' syndrome, even though he is only a premium). I have never seen the model ask for tokens or be anything but polite, but he just ruins her room and apparently disturbs other models from their camming too.

Just wanted to see what others thought about this, and if models have had this idiot in their chat abusing premiums and such (he will more than likely do it in PM, so the model may not be aware).

*Your post was long, so I'm just quoting some of it. I also haven't read any of the replies yet.*

A certain ACF member crossed my mind as I started reading this, but it might not be the same person you're talking about. I know some models are willing to tolerate more bullshit than others, but from how you described him, he sure as hell wouldn't last long in my room...lol. I know it must suck when you really like a model, yet she allows her room to be taken over by jizzbags who like to intimidate or bully others.

If something disturbing is going on in a model's room and she's allowing it to continue, you have to decide if it's worth it to stick around, or if you wanna just leave and go on to a different room. For example, I once did the 'speaking up to defend the model' thing before, and it turned out that the model was actually fine with the member calling her names, so I was like "Oh, okay..." but I'm sure I didn't stick around much longer to witness anymore of it. It's really up to the model though, who gets to stay and who gets the boot...lol.

I don't like hearing members brag about how they're trolling other models' rooms. Do they actually think that coming to my room and telling me that is gonna make me giggle or something??? Telling me that you're trolling other models is not gonna score you any brownie points with me, and I would be embarrassed if I learned that one of my regulars was trolling other models. That's CHILDISH.

Also, one of my pet peeves is when a premium who is NOT tipping says to everyone else "Come on, guys...tip the lady." When someone does that, I HAVE to speak up and tell him "Well, why don't YOU get things started by tipping first?" :lol:

I told myself that I will never give a member banning privileges (or whatever you wanna call it) in my room. I don't need someone else banning people that I like and who contribute a lot. It is MY room, after all. But I do think I use good judgement when it comes to who gets banned.

And I think more members need to start setting their PMs to friends list only, if they get annoying PMs from people they hardly know. That's their choice though.

And just a reminder that when a member is being a real douche in a model's room and clearly upsetting the model, it helps us out when you guys also report them to admin. Take a screenshot of the conversation and send MFC an e-mail with the screenshot attached. The more complaints and screenshots MFC gets about that same member, the better. Sometimes I'll complain to MFC about a member, and they'll just respond by saying "We have warned the member."

 

[mynameisbob84]

But that is my point - it's not the model that does anything, it's all him. He PMs premiums and hurls abuse at them, tells them they are banned, and shortly after that the model bans them (the model just sits there nice as pie, doesn't say a word, no 'please tip or I will ban you', nothing). The model seems to do what ever he tells her to, he is deciding what happens, who is 'acceptable' in her room.

Anyway, I checked his profile (which was there earlier today) and it is now gone. Looks like either he is playing games even with himself or that MFC have actually banned his account. He is not in the model's room at the moment either.

The thing here is that a premium is controlling a model and generally causing an upset around the site. Are you a model? Would you do what a premium tells you to do without question? Doesn't seem right to me. If I was a model and I heard of someone like that, I would have him on perma-ban and ignore.

On the subject of tipping, I refuse to tip a model who tolerates an idiot like that in their room, I told the model this - no tips from me while he remains there, free to abuse other premiums and ordering her about. She did nothing about him, so she gets nothing from me. I read another thread here about a guy who didn't have any tokens and was banned by a model because of it, 5 minutes later he purchased 900 tokens and then that same model was asking him for a tip... you can guess his response, and I think only a fool would then tip a model who banned them for such frivolous reasons. Same thing applies here - I was banned for no good reason, so why should I then tip that model?

Dood, there's a really, really simple solution to all of this - don't go back to her room; don't tip her again; don't give this guy the satisfaction of tormenting you again. There are hundreds of awesome models on MFC, why let one of the less than awesome ones bother you? You don't like the way she runs her room; don't be a part of her room. Boom. Problem goes away, yo.

Man, I could solve the world's problems, if I... cared :-D

 

[AllisonWilder]

I feel like we've recently had a very lengthy conversation about how models should run their rooms and how members should be banned for this or that immediately. If I remember correctly, it didn't end well.

If you have a problem with a specific member PMing you, tell the model privately. If she talks to him and the behavior stops, great. If she doesn't want to talk to him or doesn't see a problem find a new model who runs her room in a way that you deem acceptable. Until then, set your PMs to friends only or ignore it. Just because someone PMs you doesn't mean that you have to respond or even read it.

 

[Anonymous]

Dood, there's a really, really simple solution to all of this - don't go back to her room; don't tip her again; don't give this guy the satisfaction of tormenting you again. There are hundreds of awesome models on MFC, why let one of the less than awesome ones bother you? You don't like the way she runs her room; don't be a part of her room. Boom. Problem goes away, yo.

WORD.

Don't visit the model's room anymore if it makes you uncomfortable/unhappy being there and witnessing that shit. You're probably not the only person who's annoyed by that member, and the model will probably lose out on some tokens (your tokens and other members' tokens) by allowing it to continue. Spend your time in a room that makes you happy, and with models who won't tolerate such douchebaggery.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

This guy does sound like a douche. And if he were in my room I would ban him and probably have a big bitch about it on here. But that's me, and it would be my room. I can understand why people get upset if they come across a room like that, even in passing, it's like seeing something in the street going on that is bad/hurtful. But I don't get why it seems you're continuing to go back into this room, or why you decided to gloat to her that as long as she lets this guy be in that room you won't tip her. That is pretty much as much controlling as what this other guy is doing. You're saying you won't tip until he's banned, he's probably tipping first and then telling her who to ban. She's chosen to go with it.

Well who knows what's actually going on? I don't know how much this guy tips, and you probably don't either. Maybe he's willing to tip her a decent wage every month, maybe she likes him. Also she may be the source of it. Just because she's not saying anything doesn't mean she's not telling him to do these things.

This man clearly wants to feel like the big man, maybe a control freak/likes power. And he's found a model who is ok with that. You need to find a model who is ok with what you like.

 

[Shaun__]

Mankor you are sitting in her room not tipping her, and that makes you a freeloader. You may not like it, but saying you tip other models does not change that. If this model is so great you will stay in a room with a bossy premium who you call a jerk, then she must be worth tipping.

I was popped in a room once to say high to a model I met here and another model told her to ban me shortly after I started talking. It was a hectic affair, one of those adult expos, so the model got distracted. The other premiums in the room started laughing at me being banned and saying that is what happened when you pissed off the second model. These were the same people who used to clap when I tipped and thank me all the time for finishing countdowns, they kissed my ass in other words. Now they were delighted I was being banned, and showing what MFC friendship is worth. I ignored them and just watched the excitement of the expo.

The model put up a topic of tipping for flashes, and I did since I love the boobies. The model PMed me and asked if I could still see her. I told her I thought she had forgotten to ban me, and explained my side of things. She decided to give me a chance, and we ended up friends.

The point of my story is that I tipped a model whose room was filled with people cheering the thought of me being punished despite doing no wrong, and now I have a new friend. Now how do you think I view you, who lets one person stop him from tipping? If the model is worth watching the model is worth tipping.

 

[bob]

But that is my point - it's not the model that does anything, it's all him. He PMs premiums and hurls abuse at them, tells them they are banned, and shortly after that the model bans them (the model just sits there nice as pie, doesn't say a word, no 'please tip or I will ban you', nothing). The model seems to do what ever he tells her to, he is deciding what happens, who is 'acceptable' in her room.

i've been in some rooms like the one you're describing....i don't like them, and leave
somethings are not worth trying to understand....like dung beetles....somebody needs to study them i guess....but it's not me

the model and that guy are both getting something that they need....at other people's expense....if you feel the need to vent about it, then you're not getting what you need from the transaction.....enuf said

 

[Jupiter551]

If the model is worth watching the model is worth tipping.

Not always, I've watched in horrified fascination as feet, bats, bedposts, cellphones, microphones and once even a keyboard were inserted into vaginas and have never felt the urge to tip. Then again it wasn't something I had intended to watch, or would pay to see, and certainly wasn't turning me on.

There's no requirement to tip something you're rubbernecking in passing - it's in public, it's like stopping for a moment to listen to a busker and then move on. If you continue to go back there you should probably tip...I dunno, now we get back to the whole "am I a freeloader if I'm sitting in public chat not requesting anything, and chatting" debate. Bottom of the line though - tips are voluntary, if you're not in a group or private show you're not obliged to tip (and the model isn't obliged to allow you in her room either). I guess that's between the model and the member.

 

[Shaun__]

Not always, I've watched in horrified fascination as feet, bats, bedposts, cellphones, microphones and once even a keyboard were inserted into vaginas and have never felt the urge to tip. Then again it wasn't something I had intended to watch, or would pay to see, and certainly wasn't turning me on.

There's no requirement to tip something you're rubbernecking in passing - it's in public, it's like stopping for a moment to listen to a busker and then move on. If you continue to go back there you should probably tip...I dunno, now we get back to the whole "am I a freeloader if I'm sitting in public chat not requesting anything, and chatting" debate. Bottom of the line though - tips are voluntary, if you're not in a group or private show you're not obliged to tip (and the model isn't obliged to allow you in her room either). I guess that's between the model and the member.

If you accidentally go back to the same model repeatedly, and derive some kind of entertainment from her then I think you should tip. An accidental one time OH FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY WHAT IS SHE DOING then I can understand not tipping. This is just my personal view, and is not required by the sites rules.

It is of course up to the model who is allowed in her room, and I would never try to change that. I have seen plenty of rooms with several freeloaders who the model enjoys spending time with. They contribute to chat and I honestly enjoy talking to several of them. I have also seen rooms with what look like freeloaders, but are in fact premiums who tip when their fiances allow. Their tips are some that even I appreciate despite being a member and not a model.

 

[Anonymous]

I've watched in horrified fascination as feet, bats, bedposts, cellphones, microphones and once even a keyboard were inserted into vaginas.

A muddafuckin KEYBOARD???!!! :shock:

 

[LadyLuna]

Facts:
1. Member is in UK and is trolling UK models until they quit
2. Member claims they can get accounts for half of what a member account actually is if they spend the minimum
3. Models get half of what the tokens cost if the member bought the minimum package

Conjecture:
Member is really a UK model trying to be the only UK model?

This would explain why the member appears to be controlling the model's room, if "he" really is the model herself.

I would say, send MFC an email saying that this member is trolling many models. If you catch him in the act, let the model know to send an email with proof of the trolling. Enough models complain about a member trolling, and they'll ip-ban him eventaully. Only MFC knows if the member really is the model. If the member is the model, she might find herself out of work...

 

[Shaun__]

Conjecture:
Member is really a UK model trying to be the only UK model?

I never considered that. I was thinking some kind of studio thing was going on or it was the models boyfriend/husband.

 

[LadyLuna]

Conjecture:
Member is really a UK model trying to be the only UK model?

I never considered that. I was thinking some kind of studio thing was going on or it was the models boyfriend/husband.

It's just a conjecture. Certainly, if member is model's husband/boyfriend, and they do not keep their finances separate, then it's the same as if the member is the model monetarily.

 

[Jupiter551]

I've watched in horrified fascination as feet, bats, bedposts, cellphones, microphones and once even a keyboard were inserted into vaginas.

A muddafuckin KEYBOARD???!!! :shock:

yeah when the countdown finished it turned out to be one of those rubber, roll-up keyboards lol - but still.

 

[Anonymous]

yeah when the countdown finished it turned out to be one of those rubber, roll-up keyboards lol - but still.

OUCH! I don't even know what to say...

 

[Nordling]

Conjecture:
Member is really a UK model trying to be the only UK model?

I never considered that. I was thinking some kind of studio thing was going on or it was the models boyfriend/husband.

It's just a conjecture. Certainly, if member is model's husband/boyfriend, and they do not keep their finances separate, then it's the same as if the member is the model monetarily.

We may never know, but it's a very plausible conjecture, and the member quoting premium member fees way off the mark gives it even more plausibility, assuming the model is not familiar with how much it costs to become a premium.

 

[ComicOzzie]

A few of you may know one member who I am talking about in particular, but I won't mention his names (he has multiple member accounts) or the name of the model he pimps here. I say 'he' because the account I first came across him using was male, but his current account says 'female'.

He abuses random members in PM and has his favourite model ban them from the room for no reason at all, unless they are tipping his favourite model of course. It was amusing watching him crash and burn in the Lounge, pretty much everyone there knew his game.

Today I watched the chat in his favourite model's room, the things he said there were quite disturbing..

ban basics for a bit there no good for goal reaching lol
come on guys chat dont be shy rude to sit there
did i miss anything lol
just scaring models of lol
bored lol
got 2 so far lol
witj the you aint getting tokens speach lol

is <premium_member> here omg he never comes in your room lol

premium_member says: message for you what you are doing to new UK models has been reported to admin, I really hope they take action against you

ow ok bye then i have so many profiles lol

premium_member says: He is going to new UK models and scaring them

not scaring them staing guys arnt paying no more

btw seen as iam getting blocked soon i am <his other premium account>
i have many names
iv had many accounts blocked
but unlike u i can pay for more

another premium says: not sure i would be proud of that

i wonder what time i will loose my account lol
only 7 quid for a new account lol


It feels like he is controlling the model, and any money she makes probably goes in his pocket too (he certainly seems to be very interested in how much she takes in tokens, and has that 'ban anyone who isn't a tipper' syndrome, even though he is only a premium). I have never seen the model ask for tokens or be anything but polite, but he just ruins her room and apparently disturbs other models from their camming too.

I don't know about you, but I think this kind of behaviour is unsporting, undesirable, and MFC should totally ban this person from ever holding a premium account on MFC again. I used the Contact form to tell MFC of this person's antics, along with some of the abusive PMs he sent me, but I don't know if they will bother.

Just wanted to see what others thought about this, and if models have had this idiot in their chat abusing premiums and such (he will more than likely do it in PM, so the model may not be aware).

1. Set PMs to friends only
2. Ignore the douchebag.
3. Enjoy!

 

[Jessi]

We've been through this on this forum, all though I wouldn't be surprised if the thread is gone.

Basically, the model is going to run her room/handle her members how she likes. Like it or leave it, she's the one who will have problems in the long run and thats not your job to tell her how to do things.

If the guy seriously bothers you, 1) Put him in your ignore list 2) set PMs to friends only 3)leave the room or 4) take the model private (if she does them) and have her all to yourself without distractions.

By trying to blackmail her by saying you won't tip as long as she keeps him around you're being just as much of a controlling jerk as this guy is.

 

[mynameisbob84]

Conjecture:
Member is really a UK model trying to be the only UK model?

:shock: Ermahgerdermahgerermahgerd :shock:



My last case had left me battered and bruised, my head swollen and my pride dented. I'd gotten close, but the rug was pulled out from underneath me before I could get quite close enough. By the time I was back on my feet, there was nothing left of the case to salvage from the wreck. It didn't matter. I was ready to dive back in.
I took the first case that found its way on to my desk - a disenchanted customer was paying me to investigate a shadowy figure at the burlesque house downtown. I didn't have much to go on but I'd been told he liked to make sure the girls got their rub of the green. Not from his own pocket mind, but from everyone else's.
The show had started when I got there. As the dancers danced, dollar bills showered the stage from every concievable angle like confetti at a wedding. As the girls uttered words of gratitude between numbers, one voice caught hold of my attention and didn't let go. Her English accent cut through the others like a knife and then, without warning, she was silenced, suddenly and finally by a gunshot echoing out from the balcony above the stage.
As blind panic clouded the room, the English girl lying lifeless at the centre of it all, I caught a loaded glimpse of the assailant through the chaos on the floor. A tall figure cut from expensive looking clothing left the scene of their crime without a second thought. The clothes were unmistakably those of a male... but that walk... No man I ever knew walked like that. That walk belonged to a woman...

 

[Airwolfe]

Before everyone gangs up on Mankor and jumps his case.

Everything he said is true and then some. It's even way worse then he has described. These people are fucktards of epic proportions and the model is just as big a cunt as they are. They have wrecked havoc everywhere they can and everywhere they have went. They have harassed models, members, and the Lounges.

Some of their accounts have been deleted but they just pop back up with another one. It's like playing Whac-A-Mole with these guys. Maybe the model's account needs to go away too.

MFC will take action against disruptive members and models but they aren't going to go out of their way to do anything about it unless you lay it in their lap on a sliver platter.