Permanent PM's?

[Lucid1]

Since joining Stripchat a little over a year ago, I've responded to several dozen PM's from various models on the site whenever I was in their rooms. Some of them I actually "friended" and continued to receive PM's from them whenever I came online. As my user level increased(I'm at level 61 now), I found that the PM's started to become way too frequent, so I quietly "unfriended" the majority of them and carried on as usual. I was under the impression that "unfriending" them would prevent them from seeing when I was online, but that doesn't seem to be the case, as I still receive PM's from quite a few of the models shortly after logging into the site.

So either the "initial" PM that is sent is establishing some kind of permanent PM option with the member, or the "unfriending" option is broken. I'm also receiving PM's from models that I have never "friended", but these PM's are mostly received when I am offline, so this seems to indicate that once a PM is responded to, it allows for permanent PM privilege's for the model to contact the member in perpetuity.

Are these features actually bugged, or is this supposed to be some sort of site "perk" for the models and members?

 

[xChloe]

Are these features actually bugged, or is this supposed to be some sort of site "perk" for the models and members?

Thank you for taking the time to share your feedback.

If you previously spent tokens in the model's room, then she will be able to find out if you are online or not.

You are also right: any participants can continue once-started dialogue (unless one of the dialog partners banned the other).

But if you have never talked to the girl, did not add her to your Friends list, did not spend tokens on her, and were not in her Fan Club, then she will not be able to PM you

 

[CheeseMoon]

But if you have never talked to the girl, did not add her to your Friends list, did not spend tokens on her, and were not in her Fan Club, then she will not be able to PM you

This is in my experience not correct. Any model can PM any user anytime, and Ultimate users can PM both models and other users anytime. Model to model I'm not sure about.

Short version: short of banning, there is no way you can stop a model or ultimate user from PM-ing you.

Random messages from models that aren't on your friends list or favorites list are of course hidden in the "message requests" PM subsection, but models are often none the wiser and apparently aren't notified about this functionality when they send a PM. I've had my fair share of models with long, one-sided "conversations" with me, getting increasingly more pissed about my non-replies to their invites, dirty talk or whatever. When I finally clicked on the little "message requests" icon, often days later, I realised what was going on. I almost never check message requests. It's nothing but a massive spam folder.

What I really would like to see is something that actually makes it impossible for a model to PM a user if she isn't on the user's friends list or the favorites list. Either make it user configurable like when the message requests option first appeared, or make it site wide. As opposed to models my time on StripChat isn't technically worth anything for me, but the whole PM setup is often really annoying. Why should I hide myself or skulk about as a level 10 user just to avoid spam?

Sorry to sound so cranky here, because I otherwise love StripChat!

 

[yummybrownfox]

What I really would like to see is something that actually makes it impossible for a model to PM a user if she isn't on the user's friends list or the favorites list. Either make it user configurable like when the message requests option first appeared, or make it site wide. As opposed to models my time on StripChat isn't technically worth anything for me, but the whole PM setup is often really annoying. Why should I hide myself or skulk about as a level 10 user just to avoid spam?

Sorry to sound so cranky here, because I otherwise love StripChat!

I love the way that MyFreeCams does it...from the model's perspective, at least. I just keep the box checked for "friends." There is no way I'd enable PMs for all premiums, because then I'd be getting a lot of non-tipping dudes bugging me with "Damn, ma. U sexy." when I'm trying to work and focus on the chat.

 

[Lucid1]

...Random messages from models that aren't on your friends list or favorites list are of course hidden in the "message requests" PM subsection, but models are often none the wiser and apparently aren't notified about this functionality when they send a PM. I've had my fair share of models with long, one-sided "conversations" with me, getting increasingly more pissed about my non-replies to their invites, dirty talk or whatever. When I finally clicked on the little "message requests" icon, often days later, I realised what was going on. I almost never check message requests. It's nothing but a massive spam folder.

The thing is, the messages from the model's I still have friended also show up in this section. I want to see these messages. But once I click on that icon I'm presented with the PM's from unfriended or never friended models. And yeah, I've also felt the wrath from some of these models because I'm apparently "ignoring" them after I haven't logged in for a few days. So either the "PM feature" is being explained to these models wrong, or it is used as a means to "up their game" and bug the living crap out of members who have previously tipped them.

 

[CheeseMoon]

The thing is, the messages from the model's I still have friended also show up in this section. I want to see these messages.

If you reply to a PM in message requests, the thread is supposed to move from the message requests section to the inbox proper. It doesn't do that for you? Or aren't you replying?
You can also manually move the conversation to the inbox by accepting the message request in the three dot menu. After you do that, the conversation will stay in the inbox.

[...] or it is used as a means to "up their game" and bug the living crap out of members who have previously tipped them.

I believe it's this. I realize models have to market themselves, stay visible and stick out in a very large crowd, but it has the opposite effect on me. Nagging is not my favourite thing in the world. I did ban a couple of models who apparently used some kind of bot to regularly post PMs, because it was almost the exact same message every day for weeks. I can only assume the studio was behind it and that the model didn't even know it was done in their name.

But all in all @xChloe , I think StripChat seriously need to rethink their PM system. It's much less annoying than it used to be, but models and users need to have much more control of it.

 

[Lucid1]

If you reply to a PM in message requests, the thread is supposed to move from the message requests section to the inbox proper. It doesn't do that for you? Or aren't you replying?
You can also manually move the conversation to the inbox by accepting the message request in the three dot menu. After you do that, the conversation will stay in the inbox.

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I believe it's this. I realize models have to market themselves, stay visible and stick out in a very large crowd, but it has the opposite effect on me. Nagging is not my favourite thing in the world. I did ban a couple of models who apparently used some kind of bot to regularly post PMs, because it was almost the exact same message every day for weeks. I can only assume the studio was behind it and that the model didn't even know it was done in their name.

But all in all @xChloe , I think StripChat seriously need to rethink their PM system. It's much less annoying than it used to be, but models and users need to have much more control of it.

When I log in, I will see a red dot telling me I have messages waiting. When I click on the red dot, a dropdown window opens up with messages sorted by the time they were sent(newest at the top). But of course I have to sort through all of the unsolicited PM's to find the models messages I want to see. I don't bother responding to the others, I just click "mark all as read" at the bottom of the dropdown to clear the red dot. I wonder if marking them as read sends the model the "double checkmark" as if I actually am reading them?

 

[xChloe]

This is in my experience not correct. Any model can PM any user anytime, and Ultimate users can PM both models and other users anytime. Model to model I'm not sure about.

Yes, I put it a little incorrectly: above, I described situations where a user can receive a message being offline.

Also, any model in her chat can start the PM dialogue first.

But the model will not be able to send PM to the member, who has never been in her chat, did not spend tokens, and did not communicate with her earlier.

 

[CheeseMoon]

When I log in, I will see a red dot telling me I have messages waiting. When I click on the red dot, a dropdown window opens up with messages sorted by the time they were sent(newest at the top). But of course I have to sort through all of the unsolicited PM's to find the models messages I want to see. I don't bother responding to the others, I just click "mark all as read" at the bottom of the dropdown to clear the red dot. I wonder if marking them as read sends the model the "double checkmark" as if I actually am reading them?

Click on the gear in the dropdown and enable the "spam filter". You'll still get unsolicited PMs, but they won't be in your face so much.
I'm not sure whether marking all read will trigger the double checkmark on the sending side, but I assume it will.

 

[CheeseMoon]

But the model will not be able to send PM to the member, who has never been in her chat, did not spend tokens, and did not communicate with her earlier.

If models or other users can get to your user profile, e.g. when you are listed as a knight with someone or they manually type the user profile URL, they can click the "Send PM" button and send a PM.
All the "can't send" or "don't allow" stuff on StripChat is is just obfuscation.

Like I said earlier; my time on StripChat isn't really worth anything. It's all leisure and entertainment for me, and I don't lose anything valuable by occasionally clearing out the deluge of unsolicited model messages, but I think giving the models themselves tighter control on who can PM them would be worthwile in the long run. It's not like there are no complaints about it here!

I will give you a concrete suggestion: if a model tries to message a user that haven't favourited or friended the model, let the model know that PMs to this user isn't possible ... and why. The same should obviously happen in the other direction. Unfriending the model/user and/or removing the model from favs should of course make PMs impossible again.

I think @yummybrownfox brought up this point earlier: sending private messages should be a privilege, but simply spending a lot of money elsewhere on the site should not earn you that privilege. It makes no sense ...

 

[yummybrownfox]

I will give you a concrete suggestion: if a model tries to message a user that haven't favourited or friended the model, let the model know that PMs to this user isn't possible ... and why. The same should obviously happen in the other direction. Unfriending the model/user and/or removing the model from favs should of course make PMs impossible again.

I think @yummybrownfox brought up this point earlier: sending private messages should be a privilege, but simply spending a lot of money elsewhere on the site should not earn you that privilege. It makes no sense ...

Yes to all of this. THANK YOU.

 

[Ozzie_]

I understand the dislike of the free PM regime for ultimate members, but I do not think that is something that will ever change. (It is a selling point and revenue stream for SC).

Perhaps better for models to implement strategies to deal with it. (Of course I have no idea of just how intrusive it is so please do think I am camsplaining. Not at all!) The way I see it, just because we ultimate users have the ability/"right" to send PM's does not mean a model has to respond to them. But if the interface means that they are intrusive for a working model then that is not good and perhaps that might be the hill on which to fight this battle?

As for models randomly pming users. I have to say that I must be doing something wrong, I rarely get them from models I have never had interaction with. And I am level 92, so *on the surface of it* it looks like I have lots of money (nope, not any more! )